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The biased Media vs Trump!

  • 26-08-2016 8:51am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19


    Anybody want Trump to win, simply to beat the haters, the biased tv show hosts in America trying to ruin his campaign, the biased news stations all against him! Say what you like about him, the guy tells it like it is according to him.. he doesn't sugarcoat. Much of what he says too, is true and right, but too many people are on a bandwagon against him, not willing to agree, just to conform with others. Hilary Clinton is corrupt... yet the media let's her have a pass on that .. the email scandals for one thing.. Fox news has trumps side, but not sure if any others do . Way too many people on the bandwagon.. Trump says a lot of things that are correct


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,128 ✭✭✭CMOTDibbler


    Anybody want Trump to win, simply to beat the haters, the biased tv show hosts in America trying to ruin his campaign, the biased news stations all against him! Say what you like about him, the guy tells it like it is according to him.. he doesn't sugarcoat. Much of what he says too, is true and right, but too many people are on a bandwagon against him, not willing to agree, just to conform with others. Hilary Clinton is corrupt... yet the media let's her have a pass on that .. the email scandals for one thing.. Fox news has trumps side, but not sure if any others do . Way too many people on the bandwagon.. Trump says a lot of things that are correct
    Lots of assertions there about Trump's truthfulness. Care to back them up?


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,269 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    I can think of better criteria for choosing a President than their ability to annoy people you don't like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,034 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    Lots of assertions there about Trump's truthfulness. Care to back them up?

    How does 70% of his statements being at least mostly false sound?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,176 ✭✭✭Amerika


    Every day as I watch reports from the 'so-called' journalists I notice the mainstream media doesn't even pretend to hide their hatred and bias against Trump, anymore.

    The most accurate description of our biased mainstream as it relates to Donald Trump, IMO:

    http://nypost.com/2016/08/21/american-journalism-is-collapsing-before-our-eyes/

    R.I.P. US journalistic integrity. Born 1776. Died 2016.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭wes


    Amerika wrote: »
    Every day as I watch reports from the 'so-called' journalists I notice the mainstream media doesn't even pretend to hide their hatred and bias against Trump, anymore.

    The most accurate description of our biased mainstream as it relates to Donald Trump, IMO:

    http://nypost.com/2016/08/21/american-journalism-is-collapsing-before-our-eyes/

    R.I.P. US journalistic integrity. Born 1776. Died 2016.

    What so the media isn't allowed straight talk. Has the poor special snowflake Donald Trumps feelings been hurt? Whats up with Donal Trumps supporters demands for PC for Donald Trump. Does he and his supporters need a safe space some where?

    Donald Trump and his supporters don't like it, when people respond in kind and he is whining and moaning like a small child. Its a sight to behold, to see a man who has engaged in such naked racist xenophobia, lie through his teeth, and flip flop like the politicians he complains about, seemingly unable to handle just a small taste of the pure vitriol and utter hatred, that he has directed against various minorities, Women and media.

    FFS, Trumps and his supported don't have a leg to stand on, what with Breitbart making common cause with him. The standard of Breitbart, are far far lower then anything that the so called mainstream media have leveled at Donald Trump. The so called mainstream media, still maintain the high ground over, the likes of Alt-right hate and harassment factory like Breitbart.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,176 ✭✭✭Amerika


    wes wrote: »
    The so called mainstream media, still maintain the high ground over, the likes of Alt-right hate and harassment factory like Breitbart.

    Hillary's new catch phrase... 'Alt-Right.' Apparently crazy is contagious in this presidential elections. Something in the Washington, DC water, perhaps.

    'Alt-right?' Welcome to the crazy, conspiratorial, and paranoid world of Hillary Clinton. Some new invention of hers, or the 'vast right-wing media conspiracy' redux-remix? Take your pick. I was waiting for when I’d see the new Clinton Talking Points appear here. The mainstream media has already gotten on board... I guess they got their marching orders early.

    'ALT-RIGHT'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Trump is a by product of Fox News and right wing shock jocks on talk radio, he owned his own unsuccessful media station after all. Basically he is your typical caller into these sources. He was what they always dreamed of until it came true, witness talk radio hosts trying to talk him down of the ledge recently and him sticking to his guns.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,034 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    Amerika wrote: »
    Hillary's new catch phrase... 'Alt-Right.' Apparently crazy is contagious in this presidential elections. Something in the Washington, DC water, perhaps.

    'Alt-right?' Welcome to the crazy, conspiratorial, and paranoid world of Hillary Clinton. Some new invention of hers, or the 'vast right-wing media conspiracy' redux-remix? Take your pick. I was waiting for when I’d see the new Clinton Talking Points appear here. The mainstream media has already gotten on board... I guess they got their marching orders early.

    The "alt-right" isn't some buzzword cooked up by Clinton and her campaign, its origin can be traced back to a right-wing philosopher Paul Gottfried calling for an "alternative right" movement in the wake of Obama's 2008 victory. This BBC article gives a decent explanation as to who they are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    Amerika wrote: »
    'Alt-right?' Welcome to the crazy, conspiratorial, and paranoid world of Hillary Clinton. Some new invention of hers, or the 'vast right-wing media conspiracy' redux-remix?

    You should take a look at breitbart.com, you'd probably enjoy it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭wes


    Amerika wrote: »
    Hillary's new catch phrase... 'Alt-Right.' Apparently crazy is contagious in this presidential elections. Something in the Washington, DC water, perhaps.

    'Alt-right?' Welcome to the crazy, conspiratorial, and paranoid world of Hillary Clinton. Some new invention of hers, or the 'vast right-wing media conspiracy' redux-remix? Take your pick. I was waiting for when I’d see the new Clinton Talking Points appear here. The mainstream media has already gotten on board... I guess they got their marching orders early.

    Wait you actually think Hillary invented the term? Your joking right :D..........
    The alt-right were being talked about before Hillary brought them up, FFS. Also, you seem to think she is controlling the media, and yet you actually accuse her of engaging in conspiracy :D.

    Your post, its pure fantasy and nothing more. Really astonishing that you expect anyone to take your claims seriously.

    Read the BBC link provided by PopePalpatine, it will show that the term existed long before Hillary brought it up, and they have recently been in the news, after the racist/misogynist campaign against actress Leslie Jones.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,417 ✭✭✭Count Dooku


    InTheTrees wrote: »
    You should take a look at breitbart.com, you'd probably enjoy it.

    I already seen panic in The New York Times about their arrival
    Breitbart News has arrived


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    I already seen panic in The New York Times about their arrival
    Breitbart News has arrived

    Panic? More like stunned incredulity.

    It seemed for a few days that trump was softening. But then he picks Bannon as his campaign head. Amazing.

    Its like he really doesnt want to win.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86



    You know as well as I do that the facts are biased against Trump too. It's not as if we haven't been told that multiple times by Trump fans during this cycle.

    The fact is that Trump fans get upset when the media repeat what Trump says, rather than doing like Trump fans and pretending he didn't say certain things that he did say, when it suits.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Amerika wrote: »
    Every day as I watch reports from the 'so-called' journalists I notice the mainstream media doesn't even pretend to hide their hatred and bias against Trump, anymore.

    The most accurate description of our biased mainstream as it relates to Donald Trump, IMO:

    http://nypost.com/2016/08/21/american-journalism-is-collapsing-before-our-eyes/

    R.I.P. US journalistic integrity. Born 1776. Died 2016.

    This is a classic example, he calls it "the most accurate description of our biased mainstream as it relates to Donald Trump" despite it being in the NY Post who have literally come out and openly endorsed Trump as their preferred candidate.

    ny-post-cover-678x381.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,828 ✭✭✭gosplan


    Load of me arse!

    What the media should have done is question trump on his nonsense.

    Not just let him spout random stuff freely.

    'We're gonna build a wall and Mexico's gonna pay'

    'How?'

    'We'll make them'

    'But how?'

    'They won't have a choice. We're also going to restore jo....'

    'Sorry, sorry to interrupt. You never answered and were changing the subject. Can you explain how please?'

    For someone who talks such rubbish and so many inaccuracies, he's had a total free ride. Media should be ashamed of themselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,417 ✭✭✭Count Dooku




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,417 ✭✭✭Count Dooku


    Billy86 wrote: »
    Besides, it was Trump asking Russia to hack the US government for him - it seems he & Vlad have more of an equal-footing friendship than anything.
    Do you believe that Russians wouldn't do it without his request like NSA does all the time?
    If she exposed state secrets that anybody can steal it, why it is Russian fault?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,128 ✭✭✭CMOTDibbler


    Do you believe that Russians wouldn't do it without his request like NSA does all the time?
    If she exposed state secrets that anybody can steal it, why it is Russian fault?
    I don't think anybody's blaming Russia primarily. It's the US citizen asking them to that may be the issue.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Do you believe that Russians wouldn't do it without his request like NSA does all the time?
    If she exposed state secrets that anybody can steal it, why it is Russian fault?
    You clearly don't know what I was referring to, sad.

    At least we openly know Trump's doctor's report was falsified.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    This is fun
    Fe week ago a New York Times columnist Farhad Manjoo asked google to fix searches about Hillary health
    There's the NYT and their writers at it again, conspiring against Trump. Tut tut.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Here's the truth of the matter - how much to the left or right these publications are. Top left is for news articles, top right for opinion articles, bottom half for how each one presents each party. It's from 538, who have nailed the last two elections.

    F1.large.jpg

    NYT are about as far to the left as NBC are to the right. Now imagine Daily KOS was running Clinton's campaign, because that's whats happening with the Trumpbart campaign. Strangely, not many links to Daily KOS come up on boards that I'm aware of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,417 ✭✭✭Count Dooku


    I don't think anybody's blaming Russia primarily. It's the US citizen asking them to that may be the issue.
    Rump is a real patriot and by his statement he was going to extract which classified information Russians know, because it is difficult to estimate damage after Clinton erased 15,000 emails, which might contain classified information


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,363 ✭✭✭KingBrian2


    Trump is the man of the people. He calls it like it is. Takes no guff from the powerful & influential. He earned his own lifestyle so all the others are jealous and envious of him. Trump would make a great President.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,189 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    Amerika wrote:
    Every day as I watch reports from the 'so-called' journalists I notice the mainstream media doesn't even pretend to hide their hatred and bias against Trump, anymore.

    Amerika wrote:
    The most accurate description of our biased mainstream as it relates to Donald Trump, IMO:

    Amerika wrote:
    R.I.P. US journalistic integrity. Born 1776. Died 2016.


    I hear what you are saying but the press did pander to him at the start. He was a bit of light entertainment. He starts winning. The racism & bigotry start. The lies, asking Russian hackers to hack government computers (treason I believe), suggesting that the nra might like to sort Clinton out if she wins (incitement to kill?).
    I can understand how the media might be biased. This guy could have his sweaty fingers on the button.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,128 ✭✭✭CMOTDibbler




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Can't see Clinton lasting the term of 4 years I think she is a sick woman.
    Exact same could be said for Trump, who is older, a man (shorter life expectancy), and was unable to serve in Vietnam due to his poor health.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,321 ✭✭✭alan partridge aha


    Billy86 wrote: »
    Exact same could be said for Trump, who is older, a man (shorter life expectancy), and was unable to serve in Vietnam due to his poor health.

    Can't see the Donald making it whereas Clinton will and when she does I think she won't see out the term because of health issues.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,128 ✭✭✭CMOTDibbler


    Can't see the Donald making it whereas Clinton will and when she does I think she won't see out the term because of health issues.
    So Johnson or Stein then?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,818 ✭✭✭Chris_Bradley


    It'll be more of the same if Clinton gets it..... Would love to see a man that isn't the puppet for big business get in there.

    He is a class clown but unlike the rest, what you see is what you get imo.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,321 ✭✭✭alan partridge aha


    So Johnson or Stein then?

    The vice president would assume office then as LBJ did in 63


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Can't see the Donald making it whereas Clinton will and when she does I think she won't see out the term because of health issues.
    I'm not actually that sold on her health problems to be honest, though between these two and Bernie it could be said that there is a decent argument for imposing age limits on running. If I recall, Clinton or Trump would each be the second oldest ever upon assuming office; and Bernie would be the oldest.

    The oldest was Reagan, who was hugely popular but caused a whole lot of problems at the same time, and who had a pretty bad bout of Alzheimers for the last few years. The next oldest (Harrison, 68 at inauguration), though granted it was 240 years ago so medicine etc wasn't a scratch on today, died after a few weeks in office.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,321 ✭✭✭alan partridge aha


    Billy86 wrote: »
    I'm not actually that sold on her health problems to be honest, though between these two and Bernie it could be said that there is a decent argument for imposing age limits on running. If I recall, Clinton or Trump would each be the second oldest ever upon assuming office; and Bernie would be the oldest.

    The oldest was Reagan, who was hugely popular but caused a whole lot of problems at the same time, and who had a pretty bad bout of Alzheimers for the last few years. The next oldest (Harrison, 68 at inauguration), though granted it was 240 years ago so medicine etc wasn't a scratch on today, died after a few weeks in office.

    Maybe you are right but I do think she is not up to the job for medical reasons. It is a tough job nowadays and you have to be in peak condition.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,128 ✭✭✭CMOTDibbler


    Name of my search provider is written on tab and clearly says google. My version of chrome always jumps to address bar when I do search from google.ie
    This time I tried with Firefox with the same result
    Yeah, but yours is different from Billy's. He was pointing out that Bing searches and Yahoo searches are different from Google. I get the same result as you with Google.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,417 ✭✭✭Count Dooku


    Yeah, but yours is different from Billy's. He was pointing out that Bing searches and Yahoo searches are different from Google. I get the same result as you with Google.

    and it was my point that google fixed searches about Clinton health after request from NYT
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=100833115&postcount=22


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,828 ✭✭✭gosplan


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    Trump is the man of the people. He calls it like it is. Takes no guff from the powerful & influential. He earned his own lifestyle so all the others are jealous and envious of him. Trump would make a great President.

    Of course.

    I mean why would being competent or having foresight matter to being POTUS.

    Sure, he's a man of the people. That's all you need.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    It'll be more of the same if Clinton gets it..... Would love to see a man that isn't the puppet for big business get in there.

    He is a class clown but unlike the rest, what you see is what you get imo.

    He's quite possibly the most dishonest politician to ever run for president, and the fact checkers back that up - about 75% of what he says isn't even half-true, he has particularly shady mob and Russian links that he has been

    And in terms of removing corporate influence from politics, would you like to see Denis O'Brian as Taoiseach for the same reasons?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Mod:

    Not sure what this thread has turned into but the standard of posting needs to seriously go up.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭Suryavarman


    It'll be more of the same if Clinton gets it..... Would love to see a man that isn't the puppet for big business get in there.

    He is a class clown but unlike the rest, what you see is what you get imo.

    Donald Trump, multi-billionaire who filled his economics team with only one economist but multiple businessmen and multi-billionaires, isn't a puppet for big business?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,363 ✭✭✭KingBrian2


    Donald Trump, multi-billionaire who filled his economics team with only one economist but multiple businessmen and multi-billionaires, isn't a puppet for big business?

    Jeb Bush was pro big business and he did not get the candidacy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,128 ✭✭✭CMOTDibbler


    and it was my point that google fixed searches about Clinton health after request from NYT
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=100833115&postcount=22
    And the point was made ages ago that that's just how Google rolls. They don't auto complete derogatory searches about any named person. Try the same with Donald Trump or anyone else and you'll see.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    and it was my point that google fixed searches about Clinton health after request from NYT
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=100833115&postcount=22

    And my point was that there is nothing to show that those results were altered from the NYT post, for starters there is not a single screenshot from before said Tweet used in the article. If 'health problems' not showing up on Google is seen as some conspiracy, then so must 'racist' not being there for Trump.

    But here's the thing... 'Trump racist' did show up for you on the top search bar (as opposed to the one of the Google page itself) as did 'Clinton health problems' for me. Which kind of makes your initial point completely pointless and false. Both are here - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=100834526&postcount=40

    And not understanding that different search engines give different result frankly show an embarrassing lack on knowledge (or dishonesty, you decide) on Zero Hedge's part. Meaning your source is either incompetent or dishonest, and lacks credibility either way.

    Here's Roy Keane for example, are we going to be counting him in on the Clinton conspiracy too now, while we're at it?
    image.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,128 ✭✭✭CMOTDibbler


    It'll be more of the same if Clinton gets it..... Would love to see a man that isn't the puppet for big business get in there.

    He is a class clown but unlike the rest, what you see is what you get imo.
    I see a racist, misogynist, serial lying narcissist. I assume that's what we'd get?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    What I am doing wrong again?
    i6gp53.jpg

    We've already been here...
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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,501 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I've just erased a fair few posts from this thread. The pics of Google search suggestions are adding nothing to the discussion as far as I can see. This isn't the place for funny videos, gifs, one line quips or dumping links.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,363 ✭✭✭KingBrian2


    gosplan wrote: »
    Of course.

    I mean why would being competent or having foresight matter to being POTUS.

    Sure, he's a man of the people. That's all you need.

    Clinton was for another invasion and intervention in Ukraine, Syria & Libya. Hardly call that foresight.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,363 ✭✭✭KingBrian2


    We have to have a clear head here Clinton is palsy with the Saudi royal family and Turkey. This is disastrous for world peace, good relations between Nations. Trump could proof to be as competent or better than her in foreign affairs. Most Nations have never even heard of Trump.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Isn't the truth that people are just reporting on what Donald Trump is actually saying. All the headlines are being made by the outlandish and bigotted statements he's coming out with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Mod:
    Folks, keep the policy debate stuff for the megathread, this one is for media bias, thank you. There's no point having the same or similar debates on 2 threads at the same time.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,176 ✭✭✭Amerika


    In the US Democrat journalists outnumber Republicans 4 to 1. Shocked... I know. About as shocking a revelation as finding out water is wet.

    It’s public knowledge that Hillary Clinton suffers from a number of serious health issues that could adversely impede her performing the duties of president, Hypothyroidism, blood thinners to prevent blood clots, and Bill said “required six months of very serious work” to recover after a fainting spell. And that's just what is public knowledge.

    But now it seems, according to the media it’s sexist to raise questions about Hillary Clinton’s health. Apparently now issues like health, age, sex or race are off limits… unless the mainstream media is talking about Republicans, I figure. Funny, the liberal media didn’t say it was sexist to attack Sarah Palin. They didn’t seem to mind disparaging Ben Carson or Supreme Court justice Clarence Thomas. And they didn’t have any problem making health and age a major issue with John McCain.

    And now we find out Google is censoring stories and fixing search results about Clinton’s health.

    So what is with the media? Is it... do as I say and not as I do, or history starts today, or we don’t care and are going to be shameless biased in our reporting? Take your pick. You wouldn’t be wrong choosing any of them... or all of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,128 ✭✭✭CMOTDibbler


    Amerika wrote: »
    In the US Democrat journalists outnumber Republicans 4 to 1. Shocked... I know. About as shocking a revelation as finding out water is wet.

    It’s public knowledge that Hillary Clinton suffers from a number of serious health issues that could adversely impede her performing the duties of president, Hypothyroidism, blood thinners to prevent blood clots, and Bill said “required six months of very serious work” to recover after a fainting spell. And that's just what is public knowledge.

    But now it seems, according to the media it’s sexist to raise questions about Hillary Clinton’s health. Apparently now issues like health, age, sex or race are off limits… unless the mainstream media is talking about Republicans, I figure. Funny, the liberal media didn’t say it was sexist to attack Sarah Palin. They didn’t seem to mind disparaging Ben Carson or Supreme Court justice Clarence Thomas. And they didn’t have any problem making health and age a major issue with John McCain.

    And now we find out Google is censoring stories and fixing search results about Clinton’s health.

    So what is with the media? Is it... do as I say and not as I do, or history starts today, or we don’t care and are going to be shameless biased in our reporting? Take your pick. You wouldn’t be wrong choosing any of them... or all of them.
    Considering that I know that half of what you say is untrue, you'll have to forgive me for asking you to back it all up with reputable links.

    Does supporting Donald Trump automatically come with a lie erector?


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