Baby on Board Badge.

kneemos

A thing in the UK apparently if you're not obviously preggers.Do we have those here...yet?
Might get one for my twisted ankle or lower back pain. https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=14&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiehIrd1sDOAhVLKsAKHaAfC2oQFghQMA0&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ibtimes.co.uk%2Fwhy-i-gave-wearing-my-baby-board-badge-tube-1527007&usg=AFQjCNFDVXUBWwFDo7RdvdUwazLREibNYQ

Jordan 199

The Be Sharps.

weldoninhio

kneemos wrote: »

A thing in the UK apparently if you're not obviously preggers.Do we have those here...yet?
Might get one for my twisted ankle or lower back pain. https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=14&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiehIrd1sDOAhVLKsAKHaAfC2oQFghQMA0&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ibtimes.co.uk%2Fwhy-i-gave-wearing-my-baby-board-badge-tube-1527007&usg=AFQjCNFDVXUBWwFDo7RdvdUwazLREibNYQ

Wah wah wah. Treat me differently the way I want to be treated, but treat me equally every other way or I'll sue.

The flying mouse

No problem giving a pregnant woman my seat or anyone that looks uncomfortable or sickly to be honest..man woman or child.

Dirty Dingus McGee

Something something Burt Ward.

lawlolawl

Isn't it fairly obvious when a woman is pregnant?

Makes the badge a bit pointless unless we've gotten to the stage where there are that many fats walking around that it's hard to tell the difference any more.

Crea

What the holy hell???? Any woman could wear a badge like this in order to get a seat.
In the early stages of pregnancy it's mainly tiredness and nausea that gets you but you just have to get on with it.
It's in the late stages when you're carrying the extra weight and constantly have a pain in your back and your undercarriage that you need a seat and a person would want to be a right dickhead not to give a seat to a heavily pregnant woman.

padd b1975

Anything is better than a "little princess on board" sticker.

looksee

lawlolawl wrote: »

Isn't it fairly obvious when a woman is pregnant?

Makes the badge a bit pointless unless we've gotten to the stage where there are that many fats walking around that it's hard to tell the difference any more.

If you had read the article you would know that the whole point is that it absolutely is not possible to always tell when a woman is pregnant.

However it is probably not a realistic campaign as shown by the replies to this thread so far, and the fact that there will be some women who would demand 'I am pregnant, give me your seat' even if the pregnancy was causing them no problems at all.

lawlolawl

Crea wrote: »

... constantly have a pain in your... your undercarriage

Ugh.

Womens bodies are gross.

tomwaterford

The flying mouse wrote: »

No problem giving a pregnant woman my seat or anyone that looks uncomfortable or sickly to be honest..man woman or child.

I rarely ever use public transport (country living)

But always taught this was a good thing about public transport tbh

Samaris

Some bitterness in here.

Ignoring that the OP seems to have no idea of what the baby on board badge actually means, okay, some people don't understand pregnancy (or possibly dislocated ankles, I dunno, but one can only go so much back to basics for an internet topic and I don't feel like explaining the birds and the bees)..

weldoninhio wrote: »

Wah wah wah. Treat me differently the way I want to be treated, but treat me equally every other way or I'll sue.

Eh, no, she's pregnant, it's not a case of being female. Obviously pregnancy only happens to females (bar in a couple of very unusual cases!), but that's a bit like saying "wah wah ovarian cancer funding, treat me differently the way I want to be treated by investigating female-specific medical issues, but treat me equally every other way or I'll sue".

Oh the humanity! What is the world coming to when people wish to be treated as equal while acknowledging certain medical issues that apply to them that don't necessarily apply to other groups.

lawlolawl wrote: »

Isn't it fairly obvious when a woman is pregnant?

Makes the badge a bit pointless unless we've gotten to the stage where there are that many fats walking around that it's hard to tell the difference any more.

Please do be aware if you ever get pregnant, that the big bump doesn't appear right away. There's a period where your insides are gradually adjusting around a slowly growing entity inside you. This can result in dizzyness, nausea, violent vomiting, sweats and other unpleasant symptoms. It is generally fairly easy to tell the difference between overweight and pregnant, although there is a period where the two can be conflated.

Crea wrote: »

What the holy hell???? Any woman could wear a badge like this in order to get a seat.
In the early stages of pregnancy it's mainly tiredness and nausea that gets you but you just have to get on with it.
It's in the late stages when you're carrying the extra weight and constantly have a pain in your back and your undercarriage that you need a seat and a person would want to be a right dickhead not to give a seat to a heavily pregnant woman.

Least we agree on the latter. But honestly, "what the holy hell???? Any woman could shove a pillow up her jumper and pretend to be pregnant for these very minor shows of consideration for someone in a more physically challenging situation!"

Yeah, you do just have to get on with it, and personally, I probably wouldn't wear the badge myself as I don't like being picked out like that. The badge does not demand special rights, it merely shows that this person has a more challenging physical situation than might be expected from looking at them, and any consideration towards seating is appreciated. There is no legal ramifications from it.


Seriously, I don't get the sheer ignorance/dislike on the topic. Sure, I find them a bit twee, but if they serve a purpose, then let them at it. You are all still perfectly entitled to ignore the badges or tell the woman she should have kept her legs closed (going by the article itself there). Still is pretty assholish, but there's no law preventing one from being a dick. Look at it this way, it gives you a specific target to be a dick at. Isn't that nice.

Sir Osis of Liver.

Whenever I see those Baby on Board stickers on cars,I make a special effort not to crash into them.

Ronald Wilson Reagan

If red ken was still in power in London there would probably be segregated seating on public transport by now for fear somebody may get offended.

The_Valeyard

Ronald Wilson Reagan wrote: »

If red ken was still in power in London there would probably be segregated seating on public transport by now for fear somebody may get offended.

Special snowflakes carriages?

Samaris

Ronald Wilson Reagan wrote: »

If red ken was still in power in London there would probably be segregated seating on public transport by now for fear somebody may get offended.

Sounds like a good idea. The people offended at pregnant women wearing freaking badges can ride in the special snowflake compartment and normal society can use the other.

Ronald Wilson Reagan

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Special snowflakes carriages?

With free Wi-Fi and a selfie capsule.

The_Valeyard

Ronald Wilson Reagan wrote: »

With free Wi-Fi and a selfie capsule.

They should all be wearing VR headsets so they only see what they want to see.

pc7

Crea wrote: »

It's in the late stages when you're carrying the extra weight and constantly have a pain in your back and your undercarriage that you need a seat and a person would want to be a right dickhead not to give a seat to a heavily pregnant woman.

I met many dickheads when I was preggers so! Very obviously pregnant late stage, left standing lots of days. Everyone pretends they can't notice and keeps looking at their phones. One day o asked a young guy could I have his seat as I was getting squashed and bashed, he got up grudgingly but I was going to pass out. I would always get up for an elderly, disabled, pregnant person but not everyone is reared with manners. Thankfully driving this time out.

strandroad

Crea wrote: »

What the holy hell???? Any woman could wear a badge like this in order to get a seat.
In the early stages of pregnancy it's mainly tiredness and nausea that gets you but you just have to get on with it.
It's in the late stages when you're carrying the extra weight and constantly have a pain in your back and your undercarriage that you need a seat and a person would want to be a right dickhead not to give a seat to a heavily pregnant woman.

The whole point of the article is that often you suffer from nausea, sickness and fainting before you start to show...

I would give up my seat for anyone who says they are not feeling well. The badge is kind of pointless though, because the type of person who would refuse in such situation won't be swayed by a badge either.

pauliebdub

It's London, where getting from a to b is quite stressful and people are hard and aren't really interested in other people's problems.

I'd have no problem giving up a seat to anyone who needs it but there is something irksome about wearing a special badge, just ask for a seat if you need it.

Wigglepuppy

I blurted out congratulations to a rather rotund lady yesterday... those few nano-seconds of terror before the response, seem to last forever. And then, "Thanks, just two months to go!"

Phew! :pac:

padd b1975

padd b1975 wrote: »

Anything is better than a "little princess on board" sticker.

My cousin stuck one of these on the back bumper of my car, name personalised and all, before he gave it back to me after I loaned it to him.

It was there days before I saw it putting groceries in the trunk. Nearly fainted with annoyance. By this time the cousin was 100's of miles away. He still thinks it's hilarious.

Took me ages to get the damn thing off too.

Son Of A Vidic

lawlolawl wrote: »

Isn't it fairly obvious when a woman is pregnant?

With rising obesity levels, sometimes it's not easy to tell if a woman is pregnant.

Donald Trump

I see a marketing opportunity here

"Baby on boards.ie"

Mods/Admins, I want my cut!

iguana

These badges have been around for over a decade in London. Way to be up to date OP.

The Rape of Lucretia

The flying mouse wrote: »

No problem giving a pregnant woman my seat or anyone that looks uncomfortable or sickly to be honest..man woman or child.

How dare you associate pregnancy with being sickly. Being pregnant is a natural and most wonderful thing. The sexism women have to put up with today is just outrageous. People dont even realise what they are saying, but deep seated associations, even if subconscious, like this just show the bias against pregnant women that exists today.
Appalled.

RDM_83 again

mhge wrote: »

The whole point of the article is that often you suffer from nausea, sickness and fainting before you start to show...

I would give up my seat for anyone who says they are not feeling well. The badge is kind of pointless though, because the type of person who would refuse in such situation won't be swayed by a badge either.

Personally I think they are a good idea, its not just about giving up seats, with most lines of the tube being so ridiculously packed in the mornings the stickers let you know you should give someone extra space and time rather than engaging in the standard sociopathic behavior commuting forces you into.

andekwarhola

I'd alway offer my seat anytime to a visibly pregnant woman or anybody else that needs it.

Not sure though about giving one to a woman in early pregnancy on the basis of a unsubstantiated claim of morning sickness or whatever.

weldoninhio

Samaris wrote: »

Eh, no, she's pregnant, it's not a case of being female. Obviously pregnancy only happens to females (bar in a couple of very unusual cases!), but that's a bit like saying "wah wah ovarian cancer funding, treat me differently the way I want to be treated by investigating female-specific medical issues, but treat me equally every other way or I'll sue".

Oh the humanity! What is the world coming to when people wish to be treated as equal while acknowledging certain medical issues that apply to them that don't necessarily apply to other group.

TL:DR: Wah Wah Wah

Wigglepuppy

weldoninhio wrote: »

TL:DR: Wah Wah Wah

Think they just meant needing a seat if due to discomfort caused by pregnancy is not the same as looking for special treatment just because of being female.

Elliott S

They've now got cancer patient versions. Can't say I'd like to draw attention to myself like that but I can see the need when a young cancer patient might be considered as looking healthy, especially as not all chemos cause hair loss.

I'm a young cancer patient and I get funny looks taking the priority seating. Kinda difficult to prove when I have all my hair and look healthy. But my ribs and spine are weakened by cancer eating into them and I get mighty sore and tired standing. There are probably 70 somethings with better bones than me!

kneemos

Son Of A Vidic wrote: »

With rising obesity levels, sometimes it's not easy to tell if a woman is pregnant.

It is do.

failinis

Pretty disgusted by some of the comments on here - does the woman have to be throwing up to prove her morning sickness to prove they really need it?

If someone asks for a seat it is not a pleasure, its quite embarrassing to ask for a seat, be you pregnant, disabled/chronically ill or maybe just very faint.
You always feel judged.
I have a hidden illness but have been unable to get a seat very often.
I don't expect anyone to stand up and let me, but I am often told I am lying - I also would ask a group of people together so not singling out anyone but they say there is nothing wrong with me as I am "young and healthy".

At the end of the day it is down to the people sitting to "judge" if someone is worthy enough of their seat but I would like to hope people would be more kind.

FizzleSticks

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FizzleSticks

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Is transpregnant a thing, I wonder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NtrpcuRvd8

Samaris

FizzleSticks wrote: »

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This thread is making it sound like there's an undisclosed horde of women stalking the subway pretending to be pregnant in return for seats.

kneemos

Samaris wrote: »

This thread is making it sound like there's an undisclosed horde of women stalking the subway pretending to be pregnant in return for seats.

Lets not rule anything out or in . It's very common at US airports to pretend to be disabled for priority boarding. https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0ahUKEwj2s9jGuMHOAhXLCMAKHZUyBA0QFggbMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fmadamenoire.com%2F619477%2Ftravel-upgrade%2F&usg=AFQjCNFeay43M_s2xJj_t7sMOtESnlk1oA

groucho marx

I think we just have more proof of the selfish ness of people in general really,whining over offering a pregnant woman a seat. In the grand scheme of things would it really impact your life that much,sometimes it's nice to be nice.

jelutong

padd b1975 wrote: »

Anything is better than a "little princess on board" sticker.

"Glasgow Celtic Baby on Board" isn't too far behind.

FizzleSticks

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Samaris

...No, srsly, can we rule out that there is a horde of non-pregnant women infiltrating the London Tube to sneak seats from honest, law-abiding, non-pregnant people.

Because that's nuts.

Peregrinus

No. Special carriages for people who like to say "I know it's not politically correct, but . . . " and "it's health and safety gone mad, I tell you!". So that they don't bore the arse off the rest of us.

Your Face

'Its your choice to be pregnant' was a quote attributed to a typical vagina-hating man.
That raises some interesting arguments though.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

If a woman is heavily pregnant (ie there's no mistaking it) I'll give my seat. I'll give my seat to anyone that looks like they need it more than me. Someone with crutches, someone older, someone that looks like they're in pain.
Though sometimes I'm in pain/not well too and when that's the case, I offer my seat to nobody.

seamus

andekwarhola wrote: »

I'd alway offer my seat anytime to a visibly pregnant woman or anybody else that needs it.

Not sure though about giving one to a woman in early pregnancy on the basis of a unsubstantiated claim of morning sickness or whatever.

Lol.
"Prove to me that you need my seat". A woman in early pregnancy is usually going through a pretty horrible time, there's no need for her to "substantiate" it. If she's feeling OK, she's not going to announce to the whole world that she's a few weeks pregnant just so she can get a seat.

In all honesty if someone stood beside me and said, "I'm not feeling well, may I have your seat", I'll just give them the bloody seat. It's only a seat. The odds of someone using it as a ploy to get a seat are minimal, so the odds are good that they actually need my seat.

Plus, if I ever found myself in their shoes, the last thing I'd want to encounter is some selfish prick looking me up and down and saying, "You look fine to me, what's wrong with you?".

If they were lying to get your seat, the only person who comes out bad from the encounter is them.

andekwarhola

seamus wrote: »

Lol.
"Prove to me that you need my seat". A woman in early pregnancy is usually going through a pretty horrible time, there's no need for her to "substantiate" it. If she's feeling OK, she's not going to announce to the whole world that she's a few weeks pregnant just so she can get a seat.

In all honesty if someone stood beside me and said, "I'm not feeling well, may I have your seat", I'll just give them the bloody seat. It's only a seat. The odds of someone using it as a ploy to get a seat are minimal, so the odds are good that they actually need my seat.

Plus, if I ever found myself in their shoes, the last thing I'd want to encounter is some selfish prick looking me up and down and saying, "You look fine to me, what's wrong with you?".

If they were lying to get your seat, the only person who comes out bad from the encounter is them.

To be fair, if somebody outright asked for my seat and said they were feeling really unwell, I'd hardly get into an argument about it and would just give it.

As stated, I just wouldn't offer it (on the basis of a badge or because of a general claim of early pregnancy) unless they were visibly elderly, heavily pregnant and so on.

Samaris

Samaris wrote:

Obviously pregnancy only happens to females (bar in a couple of very unusual cases!).

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Dravokivich

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orubiru

seamus wrote: »

Lol.
"Prove to me that you need my seat". A woman in early pregnancy is usually going through a pretty horrible time, there's no need for her to "substantiate" it. If she's feeling OK, she's not going to announce to the whole world that she's a few weeks pregnant just so she can get a seat.

Can't they just get a Taxi?

If they can afford to have a baby they can afford to get a Taxi.

Samaris

Peregrinus wrote: »

No. Special carriages for people who like to say "I know it's not politically correct, but . . . " and "it's health and safety gone mad, I tell you!". So that they don't bore the arse off the rest of us.

Heh, I was saying that too and getting mild amusement from the follow-ups about the snowflake carriage and mentally applying them to the whiners. Just not the whiners they were probably aiming for.