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Local Muslims refuse burial to priest killer

  • 30-07-2016 10:24am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,681 ✭✭✭


    Here is a powerful local message from local Muslims reported on Sky News: locals refuse to bury body of priest killer saying they don't want to taint Islam with him. I think that is just the sort of religious action needed to send a religious message to those who swallow the message of IS: you are outside the pale.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,789 ✭✭✭Alf Stewart.


    Do "an Osama" on him.

    Buried at sea.


    Stops other yahoos congregating at a his burial spot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    medical waste then incinerator , job done

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Bubbaclaus


    The Catholic Church here in Ireland know plenty of ways to dispose of unwanted bodies, send them our way.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,291 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Fleawuss wrote: »
    I think that is just the sort of religious action needed to send a religious message to those who swallow the message of IS: you are outside the pale.
    Funny enough for even the most rabid fundamentalist, among all the smiting of your enemies, enslaving their women etc Islam is quite clear about not attacking Christian clerics. Even in times of war, they are to be granted safe passage. There can be arguments back and forth about the nature of jihad and all that, but that part is pretty clear. Murdering that priest was against the faith and might be why this case in particular has local Muslims taking a stand of this nature?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,681 ✭✭✭Fleawuss


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Funny enough for even the most rabid fundamentalist, among all the smiting of your enemies, enslaving their women etc Islam is quite clear about not attacking Christian clerics. Even in times of war, they are to be granted safe passage. There can be arguments back and forth about the nature of jihad and all that, but that part is pretty clear. Murdering that priest was against the faith and might be why this case in particular has local Muslims taking a stand of this nature?

    It hasn't stopped IS before. A local bishop maybe Eastern Orthodox(?) was beheaded with a member of his religion some years ago.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭D0NNELLY


    Bubbaclaus wrote: »
    The Catholic Church here in Ireland know plenty of ways to dispose of unwanted bodies, send them our way.

    We're gonna need a bigger tank!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,988 ✭✭✭jacksie66


    This post has been deleted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,908 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    The catholic church here should adopt a similar line with regards to gangsters and shootings.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,297 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    Local to where the murder took place, or local to where they were from?
    Remember these guys travelled nearly 500 kilometers to target that church.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 426 ✭✭The_Mac


    Bubbaclaus wrote: »
    The Catholic Church here in Ireland know plenty of ways to dispose of unwanted bodies, send them our way.

    Ho ho, four posts into something about Islam and we're already bashing the Catholic Church. Good job lads, let's see if we can break the record next time.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 532 ✭✭✭511


    Fleawuss wrote: »
    locals refuse to bury body of priest killer saying they don't want to taint Islam with him.

    Islam has been tainted since day one, but standing up to extremists is refreshing considering what happened in Molenbeek. People need to accept that Islamic extremism is the true nature of Islam and if you disagree with it, then stop being a Muslim.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    Fleawuss wrote: »
    It hasn't stopped IS before. A local bishop maybe Eastern Orthodox(?) was beheaded with a member of his religion some years ago.
    Do they not normally use a sword? Or at least a knife?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,544 ✭✭✭Samaris


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    Do they not normally use a sword? Or at least a knife?

    I'm probably going to hell for laughing at that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,681 ✭✭✭Fleawuss


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    Do they not normally use a sword? Or at least a knife?

    The sharpest member of the congregation?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭jimmy blevins


    There seems to be quite close links, between the church that was attacked and the local Muslim community, as they donated the site for the mosque to them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Bubbaclaus


    The_Mac wrote: »
    Bubbaclaus wrote: »
    The Catholic Church here in Ireland know plenty of ways to dispose of unwanted bodies, send them our way.

    Ho ho, four posts into something about Islam and we're already bashing the Catholic Church. Good job lads, let's see if we can break the record next time.

    I'm sorry. It was brainwashed into me from birth to always think about the Catholic Church.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,848 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    TallGlass wrote: »
    The catholic church here should adopt a similar line with regards to gangsters and shootings.

    Can't see that happening, I remember how they indulged the provos.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 426 ✭✭The_Mac


    Bubbaclaus wrote: »
    I'm sorry. It was brainwashed into me from birth to always think about the Catholic Church.

    I swear there could be a thread on this board of the Dalai Lama coming over here and someone would say how great it is he didn't hide mass pedophilia.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    511 wrote: »
    Islam has been tainted since day one, but standing up to extremists is refreshing considering what happened in Molenbeek. People need to accept that Islamic extremism is the true nature of Islam and if you disagree with it, then stop being a Muslim.

    Is it really standing up to extremists though, if as Wibbs points out, that particular murder was against Islamic doctrine? And distinctly different from a suicide shooting, bombing, or truck drive, which they may well support, or be ambivalent about, despite shunning the beheader of a priest. i.e. they have nothing against 'extremism' as we might term it - it is simply Islam.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭nhunter100


    The_Mac wrote:
    Ho ho, four posts into something about Islam and we're already bashing the Catholic Church. Good job lads, let's see if we can break the record next time.


    It was a joke, sadly it held alot of truth though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Bubbaclaus


    nhunter100 wrote: »
    The_Mac wrote:
    Ho ho, four posts into something about Islam and we're already bashing the Catholic Church. Good job lads, let's see if we can break the record next time.


    It was a joke, sadly it held alot of truth though.

    Jokes are frowned upon here in After Hours Country Club


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 487 ✭✭Strong Life in Dublin


    Feed his body to some pigs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,310 ✭✭✭Pkiernan


    TallGlass wrote: »
    The catholic church here should adopt a similar line with regards to gangsters and shootings.

    Might be very effective on pikey gangsters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Fleawuss wrote: »
    Here is a powerful local message from local Muslims reported on Sky News: locals refuse to bury body of priest killer saying they don't want to taint Islam with him. I think that is just the sort of religious action needed to send a religious message to those who swallow the message of IS: you are outside the pale.

    I disagree, no one should be denied a burial.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭A Little Pony


    They just don't want to draw attention to themselves.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,087 ✭✭✭Pro Hoc Vice


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    I disagree, no one should be denied a burial.

    The decision on the burial will be made by the local mayor. The local Muslims have said they will not prepare the body as per tradition to be honest I can understand their view.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,620 ✭✭✭Infini


    silverharp wrote: »
    medical waste then incinerator , job done

    No grave or burial for them. Slaugher innocent people or mass murder etc and engage in this kind of terrorism and the only thing good enough for them is the incinerator. Erase their corrupt filth and perverse stupidy from existence. Leave nothing.

    As for the muslims fair play to them for standing up and not letting these darwin awardees be allowed to have any assosiation with them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,084 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Cremate him and throw the ashes in the nearest wheelie bin, job done.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,642 ✭✭✭MRnotlob606


    Bubbaclaus wrote: »
    The Catholic Church here in Ireland know plenty of ways to dispose of unwanted bodies, send them our way.

    Another cheap chance to have an attack on the church. Not only was this in bad taste, but a bit factieous considering it was a Catholic priest that was killed.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Bubbaclaus


    Bubbaclaus wrote: »
    The Catholic Church here in Ireland know plenty of ways to dispose of unwanted bodies, send them our way.

    Another cheap chance to have an attack on the church. Not only was this in bad taste, but a bit factieous considering it was a Catholic priest that was killed.

    Not directed at you, but I have found it interesting that some people seem more offended about comments directed at the deplorable actions of the church than the events themselves.

    I can't remember what comedia said it, but a joke never killed anyone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,946 ✭✭✭CrabRevolution


    I get the impression they don't care too much about what happens their bodies after they've "martyred" themselves. Suicide bombers obviously don't put much thought towards it.


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Do "an Osama" on him.

    Buried at sea.


    Stops other yahoos congregating at a his burial spot.
    Salafis/ Wahhabis like these guys are more virulently opposed to idolatry than any other Muslims. They bury their dead in the desert, they are opposed to visiting graves or building shrines.

    Shrines are more of a Shia thing. Some beautiful Islamic shrines in Iran, but none in Saudi. They've even tried to destroy the grave of their prophet Muhammad, a number of times.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,991 ✭✭✭sword1


    Surely this conflict was started by the church using every kind of blackmail and bribe to get Europeans to conquer Jerusalem so they could go there on their summer holidays, the killing has not stopped since


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 735 ✭✭✭Moo Moo Land


    D0NNELLY wrote: »
    We're gonna need a bigger tank!

    I believe they only threw dead babies in septic tanks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 735 ✭✭✭Moo Moo Land


    Bubbaclaus wrote: »
    Not directed at you, but I have found it interesting that some people seem more offended about comments directed at the deplorable actions of the church than the events themselves.

    I can't remember what comedia said it, but a joke never killed anyone.


    Few bad eggs...it's history now...blinkers on...cultural belief ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    A great and possibly game changing gesture by the Islamic community and this needs to stay in place for all terrorists.

    With the new agreement to not name or show the face of terrorists after death, the glorification of their acts has been massively reduced.

    Islamic communities and European media need to follow suit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 735 ✭✭✭Moo Moo Land


    Fleawuss wrote: »
    Here is a powerful local message from local Muslims reported on Sky News: locals refuse to bury body of priest killer saying they don't want to taint Islam with him. I think that is just the sort of religious action needed to send a religious message to those who swallow the message of IS: you are outside the pale.

    This is a great sign. The French know already that they need to do more to encourage integration. The risks of ghettoisation of muslim communities has been signalled for many years.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Fleawuss wrote: »
    Here is a powerful local message from local Muslims reported on Sky News: locals refuse to bury body of priest killer saying they don't want to taint Islam with him. I think that is just the sort of religious action needed to send a religious message to those who swallow the message of IS: you are outside the pale.

    I've read this five times so I must be stupid because I genuinely don't know what this sentence means.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    I've read this five times so I must be stupid because I genuinely don't know what this sentence means.

    I think it means that the Muslim community condemns those who kill people forbidden by the religion. In this case catholic priests. But that they only condemn in this particular case, instead condoning suicide bombers, theatre shooters, etc, a being OK with Islam since catered for as being jihad, and therefore good.
    Its pretty screwed up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭strandroad


    I've read this five times so I must be stupid because I genuinely don't know what this sentence means.

    It means that if IS murderers are driven by what they think is islam it's helpful if the Muslim community tells them that it's actually sinful and punishable by infamy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Feed his body to some pigs

    CORDELL!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭Irish Praetorian


    sword1 wrote: »
    Surely this conflict was started by the church using every kind of blackmail and bribe to get Europeans to conquer Jerusalem so they could go there on their summer holidays, the killing has not stopped since

    Er no, relations between Islam and Christianity were not luvvy-duvvy up until some evil Pope decided to go all Crusader Kings.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,580 ✭✭✭Squeeonline


    The_Mac wrote: »
    I swear there could be a thread on this board of the Dalai Lama coming over here and someone would say how great it is he didn't hide mass pedophilia.

    Well he didn't did he?

    Also I'm not going to say anything bad about a person who keeps coming back from the dead. Not like the one trick pony jesus lad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,320 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    Bury him in an isolated area


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,580 ✭✭✭Squeeonline


    branie2 wrote: »
    Bury him in an isolated area

    Burn him scatter him at sea. No grave site, gone and to be forgotten.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 730 ✭✭✭SILVAMAN


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    I disagree, no one should be denied a burial.
    Fcuk the bastard over a ditch.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 806 ✭✭✭getzls


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Fleawuss wrote: »
    I think that is just the sort of religious action needed to send a religious message to those who swallow the message of IS: you are outside the pale.
    Funny enough for even the most rabid fundamentalist, among all the smiting of your enemies, enslaving their women etc Islam is quite clear about not attacking Christian clerics. Even in times of war, they are to be granted safe passage. There can be arguments back and forth about the nature of jihad and all that, but that part is pretty clear. Murdering that priest was against the faith

    Where does it say that?
    What is find is a teaching,
    Spare no one, including the Bishop the Monk and the Priest.
    The killers likely took their justification from that.


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