Effects of Drinking Alcohol on people who already have a temper

Andy From Sligo

metaoblivia wrote: »

.....but when they got really drunk, they would come home late at night and wake my sibling and I up for the sole purpose of starting a fight. ....

god thats really sad

Andy From Sligo

Aglomerado wrote: »

.....most of the time and when he takes drink (Heineken) he turns abusive.... His wife gets the brunt of it usually horrible stuff like 'you fat loser, useless c*nt" etc......

ah no now thats not on at all - anyone else on here feel thats acceptable at all! he should get called for that and nipped in the bud , i'm amazed no-one else on here hasnt commented about that . Drink or no drink its a form of abuse that has to be stamped out in society - i suppose he is all "Im sorry, i wont do it again" about it when he sobers up? ... I dunno, maybe not.

Aglomerado

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

ah no now thats not on at all - anyone else on here feel thats acceptable at all! he should get called for that and nipped in the bud , i'm amazed no-one else on here hasnt commented about that . Drink or no drink its a form of abuse that has to be stamped out in society - i suppose he is all "Im sorry, i wont do it again" about it when he sobers up? ... I dunno, maybe not.

Got it in one... all apologies till the next time.
It's like Jekyll and Hyde. I've come to the end of my rope because I've been on the receiving end a few times myself and he is now persona non grata as far as I'm concerned until I see evidence of attending a medical professional!

His wife is a very good friend and I'm happy to socialise with her as long as he's not around.

hairyslug

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

I think a lot of it depends on the actual alcohol involved, know some people who go nuts on beer but are fine on spirits; and vice versa.

I think this is it,

I was fine drinking beer/stout,
Whiskey, Im emotional
Rum and juice, Im everyones best friend
Vodka and lucozade, Im an insufferable angry bollox

Squall Leonhart

hairyslug wrote: »

I think this is it,

I was fine drinking beer/stout,
Whiskey, Im emotional
Rum and juice, Im everyones best friend
Vodka and lucozade, Im an insufferable angry bollox

It's the lucozade

dodderangler

I've a real short temper an I was really bad when I drank bulmers. Made me extremely aggro. So I switched to bud and tuborg. Bad side is that i used to only have about 6 pints of bulmers. Now with bud it's about 10 and I drink it too fast. But I'm not aggro on it so it's kids stalemate.

hairyslug

Squall Leonhart wrote: »

It's the lucozade

and the dodgy kebab I had earlier

TSMGUY

dodderangler wrote: »

I've a real short temper an I was really bad when I drank bulmers. Made me extremely aggro. So I switched to bud and tuborg. Bad side is that i used to only have about 6 pints of bulmers. Now with bud it's about 10 and I drink it too fast. But I'm not aggro on it so it's kids stalemate.

Bulmers makes me really angry too..... because it tastes ****e!

seamus

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

I think a lot of it depends on the actual alcohol involved, know some people who go nuts on beer but are fine on spirits; and vice versa.

This notion of different beers having a different effect is all nonsense IMHO. It's all alcohol, and by and large doesn't contain anything else that will have as profound an effect on your state of mind. Unless you're mixing with high-caffeine energy drinks or something.

I would say the biggest difference comes from the way it's drank and the state of mind someone is in when they start drinking.
e.g. Vodka = I'm drinking to get drunk because I've had a ****ty day and I'm drinking way too fast.
Bulmers = it's a nice sunny day and it seems like I should be drinking Bulmers, but fncking hell this beer garden is packed and those college students are way too drunk and annoying and I'm not enjoying myself so all I can do is drink this pint as quickly as possible.

LexieOnRale wrote: »

I think people who get in fights enjoy fights.

I tend to agree with this. A family friend was a notorious brawler in his teens and twenties. Begbie-style, quite guaranteed that he'd end up pinning some guy on the floor and laying into him by the end of the night.
He also has "a look" about him that other brawlers would just walk up to him out of the blue and suggest they go outside and kick lumps out of eachother.

But he had something of an epiphany and worked on his issues. He still drinks as much and gets sloppy drunk but in the 12 years I've been drinking with the guy (my brothers have been drinking with him for 25+ years), I've never seen him once even lose the rag at someone. And I've seen people walk up and ask him for a scrap and he turns them down.

So like you say, it's really not that simple. If alcohol "made" people angry, then this guy wouldn't be the happy, sleepy drunk he is today.

I would say practically everyone who gets in regular scraps while drunk has underlying anger and emotional issues they need to deal with.

One-off disagreements can likely be chalked down to having a really bad day or being really upset or whatever.

OldNotWIse wrote: »

That's worse

You know, I'm not sure it is. I don't necessarily buy into the traditional "ten signs you're an alcoholic" checklist. There's nothing inherently wrong with drinking on your own. Or drinking to get drunk.
In fact, it's become a lovely guilty pleasure for me now when my wife is out for the night and the child tucked up in bed to sit down with a couple of beers and a movie that my wife will never watch. Cathartic.

dodderangler

TSMGUY wrote: »

Bulmers makes me really angry too..... because it tastes ****e!

Ah it was alri. I wouldn't get it from tap. It rotten. But from a large cold bottle it was nice.

ScumLord

I've avoided cider for years, I went through one summer of drinking Bulmers because friends drank it but I got turned right off it towards the end.

Tried some Irish craft cider last weekend and it's a completely different ball game. They're ****ing unreal. I'm a convert.

seamus wrote: »

So like you say, it's really not that simple. If alcohol "made" people angry, then this guy wouldn't be the happy, sleepy drunk he is today.

Maybe he just turned 30. That ruined my ability to drink and get drunk. Now if I have more than 4 pints I just feel full and don't want any more.

Sam Kade

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

OK - People who drink alcohol extensively and cause a fight or bottles someone or just get Leary or aggressive - are they already an aggressive person or a person with a short temper to start off with and the alcohol just accelerates it even further, or is it the drink that lowers barriers and inhibitions and is so mood changing that it can change a placid person to a raving loony monster?

Here is the way I look at it, but i am not an expert. That people who are very laid back and dont have a temper just drink or get drunk and pass out , or act all silly and laugh and fall over things and puke up everywhere - whereas people who get drunk and want to fight someone or starts kicking stuff or get into a rage , they already (before drinking) are volatile people to start off with and that the drinking just accelerates their mood/temper.

What do you reckon? - any truth in what I say or do you not agree?

I reckon you don't know what extensively means

seamus

ScumLord wrote: »

Maybe he just turned 30. That ruined my ability to drink and get drunk. Now if I have more than 4 pints I just feel full and don't want any more.

Nah, it happened well before he turned 30 and believe me he drinks way more than 4 pints

In his case, he was a pretty angry in his early teens and then picked up a psycho girlfriend who not only wrecked his head, but also got a thrill out of winding him up and seeing him beat lumps out of other guys. So he was just a seething ball of stress quite a lot of the time.

In his mid-twenties he called off their engagement and dumped her and within a few months he was a new man.

califano

Would you have a better chance of defending against a drunk guy who came swinging at you in a furious temper than the same guy sober?. Sometimes you read these stories ''it too 7 bouncers or 9 Gardai to subdue the heavily intoxicated man''. Id be thinking what chance would 1 have had especially if that 1 person was me.
I think its agreed alcohol wouldnt improve performance in a sporting field even darts or football these days it seems otherwise they would all be at it to give them an edge. But these drunk guys needing an army to keep them subdued and apprehended, whats that all about?.

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5

I do believe there are people who, as they say "drink doesn't suit them". I know one guy who had quit drinking by the time he was maybe 21 or 22.

The other thing is, if you're drinking heavily and consistently, it's not just when you're drinking that your mood is altered or amplified, it's all the time. You'll be an irritable, unmotivated, impatient person constantly (I'm talking when people who drink every day or near enough, and to excess). So yeah you'll be an arsehole even when you're not drunk, but it can still to an extent be the influence of alcohol.

This notion that drunk people always tell the truth or the shíte they come out with is something that really reflects how they feel sober is nonsense though. People's inhibitions aren't necessarily about raw honesty, people's inhibitions can be about being horrible and hurtful, or looking for attention, or stirring shít. And they'll say what they need to to do that, which may well be a complete lie

Aglomerado

Dexter Inexpensive Vinyl wrote: »

This notion that drunk people always tell the truth or the shíte they come out with is something that really reflects how they feel sober is nonsense though. People's inhibitions aren't necessarily about raw honesty, people's inhibitions can be about being horrible and hurtful, or looking for attention, or stirring shít. And they'll say what they need to to do that, which may well be a complete lie

This is very true in the case of my friend - sober he's a sensitive, caring type (works in care industry!), very PC, and liberal. He was supportive to me last year after I'd been in a car crash. I've helped him with jobs, written character references for him! (sober ones)

Drunk, he just knows what buttons to push to upset others. There are some friends who he won't try it with (Army guys who'd insert bayonets up his sensitive area) but with those he's closest to, his wife, me, there's no holding back.

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5

Aglomerado wrote: »

Drunk, he just knows what buttons to push to upset others. There are some friends who he won't try it with (Army guys who'd insert bayonets up his sensitive area) but with those he's closest to, his wife, me, there's no holding back.

I was very like that. If a certain switch flipped when I was drunk enough, it's like I didn't see people anymore, just their insecurities and the exact right thing to say to hurt them. There were one or two people I couldn't crack and I hurled reams of abuse at them hoping something would stick.

Been years since it's happened though. I wasn't a very happy person back then, and I also just don't let myself get that drunk, or drink with people when I'm in the form where that could happen. It's horrible to wake up from, if it was ever a regular occurrence I think I would have just quit drinking

Andy From Sligo

Aglomerado wrote: »

Drunk, he just knows what buttons to push to upset others. There are some friends who he won't try it with (Army guys who'd insert bayonets up his sensitive area) but with those he's closest to, his wife, me, there's no holding back.

you'd wonder if he can 'switch it on and off' like that with others why cant he do that with people he is closest to?

FizzleSticks

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Aglomerado

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

you'd wonder if he can 'switch it on and off' like that with others why cant he do that with people he is closest to?

He's had a go at his wife and at me while we were in the company of several other friends on a weekend away last summer. Horrible experience, everyone heard.

(and saw me deliver a good hard kick up the arse to him... )

SEPT 23 1989

the mood you are in before the drinking begins sets the tone

Rodney12

Hi I know this thread is about drinking and anger but I've got a problem i turn into a complete slut when I've had drink, I was a bit like that when I was younger but the last couple of months it's started to happen again. Il kiss or do more with people I don't even fancy and I'm putting myself into dangerous situations. I just recently took an sti test and was saying to myself I'm not going to do a one night stand again cause it's not worth it and then I ended up getting really pissed and doing it again. I would never do stuff like that sober but why do I act like that when I'm drunk?

Donald Trump

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

OK - People who drink alcohol extensively and cause a fight or bottles someone or just get Leary or aggressive - are they already an aggressive person or a person with a short temper to start off with and the alcohol just accelerates it even further, or is it the drink that lowers barriers and inhibitions and is so mood changing that it can change a placid person to a raving loony monster?

Here is the way I look at it, but i am not an expert. That people who are very laid back and dont have a temper just drink or get drunk and pass out , or act all silly and laugh and fall over things and puke up everywhere - whereas people who get drunk and want to fight someone or starts kicking stuff or get into a rage , they already (before drinking) are volatile people to start off with and that the drinking just accelerates their mood/temper.

What do you reckon? - any truth in what I say or do you not agree?

Drinking milk is far far worse for people with tempers!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZUR6YhkiyU

wakka12

Theres no reason to act loud or aggressive or even very silly when drunk. They did tests on young people having their first drink, without any preconceived notions of affects alcohol has on you and it just made them mellow and relaxed. Not stupid and loud, we act stupid and loud because we consider it socially acceptable to become stupid and loud if were drunk.

Being drunk isn't an excuse for annoying other people around you in town, yeh you were drunk but you're also an inconsiderate ****. I did it when I was 16. I grew up, genuinely feel embrassaed when I see drunk people in theirs 20's and 30's falling over themselves and screaming and shouting in town at nighttime