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Should we boycott the Olympics?

  • 24-07-2016 5:39pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭


    The IOC's chickened out over WADA's evidence of state wide doping in Russia- should countries boycott the Olympics to show disgust at the IOCs decision?

    I think a huge cloud hangs over Rio now


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    That's just the pollution level


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭Specialun


    No. They're all at it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    No. I could be too old in 4 years times. I'm no Bernard Lagat.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16 1878_


    Yeah, but only because they're boring as hell now with all the pro athletes and non-Olympic like sports such as golf.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 565 ✭✭✭enzo roco


    No Irish athlete has ever doped. Fact.


    My dad used to drink with lance armstrong. Fact.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭Burial.


    If you think the Russians are the only ones at it at a large scale then you're very naive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭mansize


    Burial. wrote: »
    If you think the Russians are the only ones at it at a large scale then you're very naive.

    I certainly don't but when WADA prove systematic doping IOC just turn a blind eye and pass the buck


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Burial. wrote: »
    If you think the Russians are the only ones at it at a large scale then you're very naive.


    If it's organised by the state they're taking the piss in fairness.
    Disgraceful if they are being allowed in,makes a mockery of the whole thing.Could be the beginning of the end for the Olympics if viewers and sponsers will lose interest.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Would be very hard on the Irish competitors who have sacrificed so much to get there, plus it would have zero impact, plus it would spark a huge diplomatic rift.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,631 ✭✭✭Dirty Dingus McGee


    It's far too late now to do it and anyway the IOC allowing the individual bodies to decide if their competitors can compete is sensible.

    Why should someone who worked all their life to compete in the Olympics have their dream ruined because we as a country have to make a stand and make a stand that would make absolutely no difference.

    It selfishness of the highest order from people who won't be remotely affected by the decision.Of course it's very easy to take a stand when you are not sacrificing anything yourself.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    You should boycott every sport and competition if you are worried about doping as I believe every sport has a problem.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It's far too late now to do it and anyway the IOC allowing the individual bodies to decide if their competitors can compete is sensible.

    Except where there is compelling evidence that that body is itself up to its eyes in corruption. The IOC have completely funked it, I think it's a bad decision. But I don't agree with the idea that Ireland should punish our own athletes to take a stand.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,121 ✭✭✭ClovenHoof


    I have boycotted every ****ing olympics.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    Drugs are bad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,984 ✭✭✭Venom


    Your Face wrote: »
    Drugs are bad.

    M'kay.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Berserker


    You should boycott every sport and competition if you are worried about doping as I believe every sport has a problem.

    Every sport? What about curling, snooker, chess, sailing and bowls to name but a few.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,694 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Berserker wrote: »
    Every sport? What about curling, snooker, chess, sailing and bowls to name but a few.

    Not to mention Snap, Kerbs and Conkers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,753 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    enzo roco wrote: »
    No Irish athlete has ever doped. Fact.


    My dad used to drink with lance armstrong. Fact.

    Michelle Smith/ De Bruinne


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,753 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Berserker wrote: »
    Every sport? What about curling, snooker, chess, sailing and bowls to name but a few.

    Snooker is not a sport, it's the same as darts, a pub game that got out of hand.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,631 ✭✭✭Dirty Dingus McGee


    Snooker is not a sport, it's the same as darts, a pub game that got out of hand.

    How do you define a sport.

    Depending on your bias you could argue that pretty much any sport is not a sport.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Snooker is not a sport, it's the same as darts, a pub game that got out of hand.

    If archery and golf are sports, and other events based on accuracy and perhaps more mental stamina than physical or athletic ability, then so is darts. It's just one measured in millimetres rather than time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Is Pokeman a sport?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,530 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    The simple fact is that they're all at it. I imagine if the testers could actually get into China we'd find the same results. The yanks have been at it since forever and the brits have the mythical "marginal gains"!!!

    I mean some american woman broke a near 30 year record at a 100m hurdle event the other day. The record belonged to a super de duper juiced up Eastern European from an era when they were jacked up on so much testosterone that it ruined them in later life. Like that's not one bit suspicious at all ...

    Our problem is we don't do it often nor good enough to compete and I'm glad we don't.

    The olympics is a freak show and should be enjoyed as such.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 644 ✭✭✭Dice75


    Michelle Smith/ De Bruinne

    Not at the Olympics


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭jelutong


    1878_ wrote: »
    Yeah, but only because they're boring as hell now with all the pro athletes and non-Olympic like sports such as golf.

    You could throw in Yachting,Showjumping ,Synchronised Swimming ,Tennis etc.
    Anyone what sports were featured when the Modern Olympics started ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,530 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    Michelle Smith/ De Bruinne

    Cian O'Connor :)

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Berserker


    JRant wrote: »
    Cian O'Connor :)

    His horse you mean.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,530 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    Berserker wrote: »
    His horse you mean.

    Only their mothers can tell them apart

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭mansize


    kneemos wrote: »
    Is Pokeman a sport?

    Sure why not! The amount of young lads I saw today with their smart phones out tearing around the place!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭mansize


    Would be very hard on the Irish competitors who have sacrificed so much to get there, plus it would have zero impact, plus it would spark a huge diplomatic rift.

    Well if no one makes a stand - does it mean they don't care either, what if an Irish athlete is denied a medal by a Russian one???

    The Olympics is tainted anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭mansize


    Dice75 wrote: »
    Not at the Olympics

    Do you actually believe that?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭mansize


    Berserker wrote: »
    Every sport? What about curling, snooker, chess, sailing and bowls to name but a few.

    Snooker was caught up in match fixing and isn't in the olympics anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,412 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    The world of sport would be thrown into disarray if Ireland didn't sent over a few boxers and horses.

    Wo owe it to the world of sport.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 644 ✭✭✭Dice75


    mansize wrote: »
    Do you actually believe that?

    That she wasn't caught doping at the Olympics? Yes. She still has all her medals.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Buona Fortuna


    We should if only so that The Sun can have the headine

    ROI BANS RIO


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭mansize


    Dice75 wrote: »
    That she wasn't caught doping at the Olympics? Yes. She still has all her medals.

    Said doped, not caught doping.

    The evidence is stacked against her, and there was a documentary about how that type of doping occurred.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭mansize


    We should if only so that The Sun can have the headine

    ROI BANS RIO

    Team Ireland, its not soccer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭PowerToWait


    mansize wrote: »
    Well if no one makes a stand - does it mean they don't care either, what if an Irish athlete is denied a medal by a Russian one???

    The Olympics is tainted anyway.

    I doubt you know anything about the enormity of the effort required simply to qualify for an Olympic event. It cannot be overstated, and even more so from a country as under funded as Ireland.

    To say to an athlete 'we're gonna show those Ruskies - we won't go, that'll learn 'em' would be taking the piss.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭mansize


    endacl wrote: »
    The world of sport would be thrown into disarray if Ireland didn't sent over a few boxers and horses.

    Wo owe it to the world of sport.

    I'm sure they'd notice if the team that came 41st in 2012 and 61st in 2008 withdrew


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭mansize


    I doubt you know anything about the enormity of the effort required simply to qualify for an Olympic event. It cannot be overstated, and even more so from a country as under funded as Ireland.

    To say to an athlete 'we're gonna show those Ruskies - we won't go, that'll learn 'em' would be taking the piss.

    So we all go along with the pretence?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,516 ✭✭✭XsApollo


    Because of Russia doping?

    Flo Jo ,( never caught I think,
    Just look at pics of her through the years and you will know)
    Marion Jones. (her husband too)
    Lance Armstrong.
    Tim Montgomery
    Tyson gay
    Justin Gatlin

    Just these off the top of my head.
    Many more I couldn't be assed writing down.
    But these few were breaking world records.

    Especially the cases of Lance and Marion, 2 icons and it was all a lie.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Buona Fortuna


    mansize wrote: »
    Team Ireland, its not soccer.

    I'll be sure to point that out :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭mansize


    XsApollo wrote: »
    Because of Russia doping?

    Flo Jo ,( never caught I think,
    Just look at pics of her through the years and you will know)
    Marion Jones. (her husband too)
    Lance Armstrong.
    Tim Montgomery
    Tyson gay
    Justin Gatlin

    Just these off the top of my head.
    Many more I couldn't be assed writing down.
    But these few were breaking world records.

    Especially the cases of Lance and Marion, 2 icons and it was all a lie.

    No not just Russia doping, the complete undermining of WADA, and basically, turning a blind eye to doping and corruption.

    And I'm aware of the sacrifices athletes make to get to the olympics, but if its unfair, flawed and corrupt, whats the point???

    Does anyone even believe the olympics is clean???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,631 ✭✭✭Dirty Dingus McGee


    mansize wrote: »
    No not just Russia doping, the complete undermining of WADA, and basically, turning a blind eye to doping and corruption.

    And I'm aware of the sacrifices athletes make to get to the olympics, but if its unfair, flawed and corrupt, whats the point???

    Does anyone even believe the olympics is clean???


    I have to say I laughed when I heard about there secret mousehole where they swapped the dirty samples for clean ones.

    It's like something out of a heist movie.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭mansize




    Spot the drug cheaters, ironically USSR boycotted the 84 Olympics


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,530 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    mansize wrote: »


    Spot the drug cheaters, ironically USSR boycotted the 84 Olympics

    Is it all of them?

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭PowerToWait


    mansize wrote: »
    So we all go along with the pretence?


    You can call it that if you like. I would be strictly against asking athletes to skip it in some sort of misguided attempt at something vaguely anti doping.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭mansize


    You can call it that if you like. I would be strictly against asking athletes to skip it in some sort of misguided attempt at something vaguely anti doping.

    Whats vague about it??? Or misguided?

    Do you agree with the IOC's decision?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,694 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    So, say Ireland boycotts the Olympics...then what?

    What else do we boycott?

    Is it just the Olympics or would a boycott be about making a stand against drugs in sport?


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