Did you know nelson mandela was a terrorist

jack923 · 15-07-2016 7:01pm #1

He was the Co founder/leader of a group which ordered the deaths of innocent civilians, he was also a terrorist sympathiser he supported the IRA.

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jack923 · 15-07-2016 7:17pm

jack923 wrote: »

He was the Co founder/leader of a group which ordered the deaths of innocent civilians, he was also a terrorist sympathiser he supported the IRA.

Mods if this is in the wrong section please move it to the appropriate one instead of taking it down, thanks.

He killed civilians with no hesitation

Del.Monte · 15-07-2016 7:27pm

Is there a point to your post? I thought everybody who takes even a passing interest in life on the planet would know Nelson Mandela's history.

testicles · 15-07-2016 7:28pm

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RustyNut · 15-07-2016 7:31pm

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

Giacomo McGubbin · 15-07-2016 7:35pm

He was a terrorist in his early years, but released that only peaceful means would solve South Africa's problems and he was right.

jack923 · 15-07-2016 7:43pm

Del.Monte wrote: »

Is there a point to your post? I thought everybody who takes even a passing interest in life on the planet would know Nelson Mandela's history.

A lot of people actually don't know, people also don't know that he was terrorist sympathiser as he supported the IRA.

jack923 · 15-07-2016 7:47pm

Giacomo McGubbin wrote: »

He was a terrorist in his early years, but released that only peaceful means would solve South Africa's problems and he was right.

Sounds a lot like someone vilified in Ireland doesn't it?

amcalester · 15-07-2016 7:50pm

jack923 wrote: »

Sounds a lot like someone vilified in Ireland doesn't it?

Martin McGuinness? Sure Gerry Adams was never in the IRA. Right?

Or are you saying that Gerry was a terrorist?

jack923 · 15-07-2016 7:52pm

amcalester wrote: »

Martin McGuinness? Sure Gerry Adams was never in the IRA. Right?

Or are you saying that Gerry was a terrorist?

Yes he was a terrorist just like nelson Mandela was

amcalester · 15-07-2016 7:54pm

jack923 wrote: »

Yes he was a terrorist just like nelson Mandela was

But Gerry has always denied being a member of the IRA. Are you calling him a liar?

testicles · 15-07-2016 7:55pm

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jack923 · 15-07-2016 7:57pm

amcalester wrote: »

But Gerry has always denied being a member of the IRA. Are you calling him a liar?

Yes

riffmongous · 15-07-2016 7:57pm

jack923 wrote: »

He killed civilians with no hesitation

Source?

jack923 · 15-07-2016 7:57pm

riffmongous wrote: »

Source?

If you want to do some research on his terrorist organisation you can.

jack923 · 15-07-2016 8:02pm

testicles wrote: »

Amazing what kind of revelations you have while spending 27 years in jail.

There is never an excuse for terrorism. The man is a terrorist and always will be.

riffmongous · 15-07-2016 8:04pm

jack923 wrote: »

If you want to do some research on his terrorist organisation you can.

So you don't have any then and you are just here to spout ****e

nhunter100 · 15-07-2016 8:04pm

jack923 wrote:

There is never an excuse for terrorism. The man is a terrorist and always will be.

You know very little of the history of SA to make such a simple statement.

nhunter100 · 15-07-2016 8:11pm

riffmongous wrote:

So you don't have any then and you are just here to spout ****e

I'd say stir it most likely, from a place of ignorance. Interesting how an opponent of the system is branded a 'terrorist' Yet the state's acts of terrorism against its majority of citizens was/is ignored.

jack923 · 15-07-2016 8:12pm

nhunter100 wrote: »

You know very little of the history of SA to make such a simple

Yes i do its very indifferent to northern Ireland it doesn't justify terrorism.

jack923 · 15-07-2016 8:14pm

nhunter100 wrote: »

You know very little of the history of SA to make such a simple statement.

Yes I do it's very indifferent to Northern Ireland it still doesn't justify terrorism you also didn't address the fact that he was terrorist sympathiser/supporter.

Manach · 15-07-2016 8:15pm

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jack923 · 15-07-2016 8:15pm

nhunter100 wrote: »

I'd say stir it most likely, from a place of ignorance. Interesting how an opponent of the system is branded a 'terrorist' Yet the state's acts of terrorism against its majority of citizens was/is ignored.

Same as northern Ireland it still doesn't justify terrorism, terrorism can never be justified.

nhunter100 · 15-07-2016 8:16pm

jack923 wrote:

Yes I do it's very indifferent to Northern Ireland it still doesn't justify terrorism you also didn't address the fact that he was terrorist sympathiser/supporter.

So if it's state terrorism it's acceptable to you?

irishgrover · 15-07-2016 8:16pm

jack923 wrote: »

A lot of people actually don't know, people also don't know that he was terrorist sympathiser as he supported the IRA.

I'd guess that only very young or very ignorant people don't know his background! Are you very young Jack?

jack923 · 15-07-2016 8:18pm

riffmongous wrote: »

So you don't have any then and you are just here to spout ****e

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umkhonto_we_Sizwe

Do some basic research there on his acts of indiscriminate careless terrorism.

jack923 · 15-07-2016 8:19pm

irishgrover wrote: »

I'd guess that only very young or very ignorant people don't know his background! Are you very young Jack?

I know his background but terrorism can never be justified he was a terrorist plain and simple.

jack923 · 15-07-2016 8:20pm

nhunter100 wrote: »

So if it's state terrorism it's acceptable to you?

No terrorism can never be justified.

jack923 · 15-07-2016 8:22pm

nhunter100 wrote: »

So if it's state terrorism it's acceptable to you?

Same with northern Ireland where small children as young as 8 were killed with plastic and real bullets, 13 year old girls being shot dead but it still doesn't justify terrorism.

nhunter100 · 15-07-2016 8:25pm

jack923 wrote:

Same with northern Ireland where small children as young as 8 were killed with plastic and real bullets, 13 year old girls being shot dead but it still doesn't justify terrorism.

You mentioned Nelson Mandela in your title, why the repeated reference to NI, why not the Basque region of Spain or Gaza?

jack923 · 15-07-2016 8:26pm

nhunter100 wrote: »

You mentioned Nelson Mandela in your title, why the repeated reference to NI, why not the Basque region of Spain or Gaza?

Because this is an Irish forum?

Pro Hoc Vice · 15-07-2016 8:26pm

jack923 wrote: »

Same with northern Ireland where small children as young as 8 were killed with plastic and real bullets, 13 year old girls being shot dead but it still doesn't justify terrorism.

So the Warsaw uprising was the action of terrorists and not justified?

irishgrover · 15-07-2016 8:26pm

jack923 wrote: »

I know his background but terrorism can never be justified he was a terrorist plain and simple.

ok then, I guess I'm confused about the purpose of this tread.
It started with you making a statement, and asking were people aware that your statement was fact.
Then others explained that at one point in his life he had a set of beliefs and later he had a different set of beliefs. It was suggested that this was a well known fact. You suggested it wasn't well known, but that you knew it....
then you went back to a one dimensional line ....he's a terrorist....
ultimately, what's your point, what's the point of this thread, what do you want to discuss?....?

jack923 · 15-07-2016 8:28pm

irishgrover wrote: »

ok then, I guess I'm confused about the purpose of this tread.
It started with you making a statement, and asking were people aware that your statement was fact.
Then others explained that at one point in his life he had a set of beliefs and later he had a different set of beliefs. It was suggested that this was a well known fact. You suggested it wasn't well known, but that you knew it....
then you went back to a one dimensional line ....he's a terrorist....
ultimately, what's your point, what's the point of this thread, what do you want to discuss?....?

I was saying that he was a terrorist and a terrorist sympathiser/supporter but yet people are trying to excuse terrorism/terrorism sympathisers.

VictorRomeo · 15-07-2016 8:31pm

RustyNut wrote: »

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

Every tyrant is the hero in their own story.... But Mandela was no tyrant.

Pro Hoc Vice · 15-07-2016 8:31pm

jack923 wrote: »

I was saying that he was a terrorist and a terrorist sympathiser/supporter but yet people are trying to excuse terrorism/terrorism sympathisers.

Mandela served 27 years and no one I know excused his early belief in terror to achieve a just society.

nhunter100 · 15-07-2016 8:32pm

jack923 wrote:

Same with northern Ireland where small children as young as 8 were killed with plastic and real bullets, 13 year old girls being shot dead but it still doesn't justify terrorism.

jack923 wrote:

I was saying that he was a terrorist and a terrorist sympathiser/supporter but yet people are trying to excuse terrorism/terrorism sympathisers.

Who is trying to excuse it? I feel like saying ' are you OK hun?' . I'm done this is a moronic thread tbh.

Manach · 15-07-2016 8:34pm

Mod Note:
As this thread seems to have run its course, closing.

jack923 · 15-07-2016 8:34pm

Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »

Mandela served 27 years and no one I know excused his early belief in terror to achieve a just society.

Yes but he was still a terrorist who took the lives of many innocent people going to prison for a few years doesn't change the fact that he was a terrorist.

Did you know nelson mandela was a terrorist

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