Stephen King's It

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Tony EH wrote: »

True. But, I just don't feel anything for it at the moment.

I'm of the same view as you, the makeup in this one just doesn't exude any sort of creepiness - it's too tryhard? A similar problem happened with the Nightmare on Elm Street reboot a few years back - taking the appearance of an iconic character and altering it just because you can is a bad move, you remove the essence of what made that character scary or fearsome originally.

Bebopclown

I feel this clown feels more like the Pennywise from the novel. The mini series Pennywise was nothing like the novel at all. In the novel Pennywise never cracked jokes, he was always sinister. The only time he acted normal was with Georgie. There was another part of the novel where he tried to act normal during a town fair and hand out balloons to children but he was so scary looking that the kids instantly burst into tears just looking at him.
One thing he does is he tries to lure children towards him, once he realises the child is starting to question what's happening, he charges at them.
He's pretty relentless in the novel, at one point he murders a 2 year old, he old grabs a 10 year old by the neck and rips his head clean off.
The movie version of Pennywise is more what I imagined he'd be reading the novel, the mini series was nothing like the novel at all.

Syphonax

The clips ive seen so for make this look like it a rehash of the original IT series. Bill Skarsgård hasnt a peg on Tim Curry.

Bebopclown

Syphonax wrote: »

The clips ive seen so for make this look like it a rehash of the original IT series. Bill Skarsgård hasnt a peg on Tim Curry.

Well, they are both based on the same novel and the Georgie scene is iconic, the main difference is the dialog in the new movie is lifted from the novel rather than repeating the mini series.
Looking at the trailer it seems to feature ALOT from the novel that was never in the series, The House On Neibolt Street plays a major part in the novel and wasn't even reference in the mini series, yet it's shown quite a lot in the trailers. If the movie Is like the novel a big chunk of it should be set in that house.

Tony EH

Bebopclown wrote: »

I feel this clown feels more like the Pennywise from the novel. The mini series Pennywise was nothing like the novel at all. In the novel Pennywise never cracked jokes, he was always sinister. The only time he acted normal was with Georgie. There was another part of the novel where he tried to act normal during a town fair and hand out balloons to children but he was so scary looking that the kids instantly burst into tears just looking at him.
One thing he does is he tries to lure children towards him, once he realises the child is starting to question what's happening, he charges at them.
He's pretty relentless in the novel, at one point he murders a 2 year old, he old grabs a 10 year old by the neck and rips his head clean off.
The movie version of Pennywise is more what I imagined he'd be reading the novel, the mini series was nothing like the novel at all.

If you think this will be in the film, forget it. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that this film and the book will differ immensely. Probably, even more so than the mini series.

Plus (and it's been a few years since I've seen it), I don't recall Tim Curry's Pennywise being a jokester either. However, he does try to act congenial in order to lure the kids. Which, is the basic point of It's clown persona.

Also, in the book, Pennywise is supposed to look like Bozo the Clown from 1950's US TV. Curry's version was modelled on that. This version just looks like some Goth kid's drawing of what they believe a scary clown should look like and it's failing to do to me what Curry's version did. That is, unnerve me in a way that I can't descrbe.

Syphonax

Bebopclown wrote: »

Well, they are both based on the same novel and the Georgie scene is iconic, the main difference is the dialog in the new movie is lifted from the novel rather than repeating the mini series.
Looking at the trailer it seems to feature ALOT from the novel that was never in the series, The House On Neibolt Street plays a major part in the novel and wasn't even reference in the mini series, yet it's shown quite a lot in the trailers. If the movie I saw like the novel a big chunk of it should be set in that house.

lots missing from the TV series, which when you consider how long that was, its going to be hard to cram the novel into to the 2 hour movie? Glad they arent just repeating the TV like for like though, I dont think Skarsgård is as Sinister as Tim Curry though, he just oozed evil naturally.

Bebopclown

Syphonax wrote: »

lots missing from the TV series, which when you consider how long that was, its going to be hard to cram the novel into to the 2 hour movie? Glad they arent just repeating the TV like for like though, I dont think Skarsgård is as Sinister as Tim Curry though, he just oozed evil naturally.

The movie is only going to be half the book and it's 135 minutes. The first half of the mini series is 90 minutes and that intercut with the adults section.

Syphonax

Bebopclown wrote: »

The movie is only going to be half the book and it's 135 minutes. The first half of the mini series is 90 minutes and that intercut with the adults section.

Seemed well longer than 90 minutes a piece when I was watching it!

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Bebopclown

Tony EH wrote: »

If you think this will be in the film, forget it. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that this film and the book will differ immensely. Probably, even more so than the mini series.

Maybe although if you look at the photos on IMDB they have a decapitated child's head floating in water.

Heisenbug

I don't think it will differ too much from the book. Didn't Stephen King see it and apparently loved it. He's still p!ssed at the Shining so I'd imagine the film has used a large chunk of the novel's material.

Bacchus

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Well that's a lot of nope

Bebopclown

Heisenbug wrote: »

I don't think it will differ too much from the book. Didn't Stephen King see it and apparently loved it. He's still p!ssed at the Shining so I'd imagine the film has used a large chunk of the novel's material.

Wasn't he also singing praise for The Dark Tower?

Heisenbug

Bebopclown wrote: »

Wasn't he also singing praise for The Dark Tower?

Yep. Said they did a good job and that they used a number of things in the book. But it doesn't start off where the book does.

Seems more lenient as I think he thinks it was really difficult to adapt for the screen.

Cantona's Collars

Nice little 8 bit style game to promote the movie.

http://game.itthemovie.com

Conall Cernach

RDM_83 again wrote: »

Been years since I read the book but as far as I remember it really falls to bits towards the end and has some just weird bits (and not creepy weird, how much blow had king put up his nose to write it weird)

Yeah, the ending is very disappointing and a real anti-climax. Like a lot of King's work he does great stuff building atmosphere and character but then misses the pay off. The Stand is another example of this.

Conall Cernach

Conall Cernach wrote: »

Yeah, the ending is very disappointing and a real anti-climax. Like a lot of King's work he does great stuff building atmosphere and character but then misses the pay off. The Stand is another example of this.

Can anyone mention "The Dark Tower"???

Inviere

Watched the original tv miniseries there, in anticipation of the remake. I enjoyed the first two thirds of it, I felt the kid/flashback scenes were done well, the adult scenes not great, but all in all, a good story that takes you in. The final act/few scenes though, jesus, pretty dire I must say

kerplun k

Conall Cernach wrote: »

Yeah, the ending is very disappointing and a real anti-climax. Like a lot of King's work he does great stuff building atmosphere and character but then misses the pay off. The Stand is another example of this.

Man, take your pick. Insomnia, The Green Mile, Bag of Bones, Dreamcatcher, Cell, Duma Key, Under the Dome, the list goes on and on. I always start a Stephen King book with the expectation that I will hate the ending. I love his work, but he just can't seem to nail endings.

Tony EH

It's exceptionally difficult to end a story, especially a horror story. Starting one is easy. Usually it's the opening idea the writer has had. 'It' is no exceoption, although I'll say its ending isn't half as flaccid as most of King's books. But, it is a truck load of WTF.

I think as an adult I would have been shocked, somewhat, if I'd read that. As a teen, it more or less rolled off my back.

But, yeh, King's endings are notorious for their drift into meh. The last book I read of his - and it was litterally years since I'd read a book of his - was 'The Cell', which has a great opening, an interesting story and an ending that I had to read several times, because I couldn't get what he was trying to achieve. Even though the ending works, and it's difficult to imagine it any other way now, it's still just so lackluster.

Avoid the film, though.

Snake Plisken

The only King ending that pissed me off was the ending of his Dark Tower Series of books I was like really that's it? I felt very cheated!
This movie adaptation is looking good, really didn't think much of the TV series probably because I had read the book before seeing it.

Billy86

Trailers looked potentially quite good for Dark Tower and I know this isn't the be-all and end-all or anything, but it's scoring 16% on Rotten Tomatoes.

Agent Coulson

It's being predicted to be the biggest opening weekend ever for a horror film at $60m

Bacchus

Agent Coulson wrote: »

It's being predicted to be the biggest opening weekend ever for a horror film at $60m

Any predictions if it's going to be any good or not?

Also, is IT going to just be Pennywise all the time in this or will we see some other forms? Trailers only pointing to Pennywise.

Agent Coulson

Bacchus wrote: »

Any predictions if it's going to be any good or not?

Also, is IT going to just be Pennywise all the time in this or will we see some other forms? Trailers only pointing to Pennywise.

I've seen one or two early reviews staying it's best King adaptation brought to screen.

I'd take them with a grain of salt but if it's half as good as those reviews I'll be well happy.


No Idea on IT and don't want to know until I see it and get surprised.


I'm going black now on all reviews till I see it myself.

circos

Trying my best to get some early screening tickets. I'm, away for the weekend its out. Been following the production on this since it was announced. I see they have midnight screenings on the Morning of the 8th. Wish I didn't have a 6:50am flight the next day!

Hande hoche!

Agent Coulson wrote: »

It's being predicted to be the biggest opening weekend ever for a horror film at $60m

Could be one of the stand outs from a fairly lackluster box office draw. Will be interesting to see how it goes.

Conall Cernach

Will this be a 2 part thing? I imagine it would be hard to cram in both kid and adult stuff into 2 or so hours.

Basq

Conall Cernach wrote: »

Will this be a 2 part thing?  I imagine it would be hard to cram in both kid and adult stuff into 2 or so hours.

Yeah, this one has been referred to as "The Loser's Club".. there'll be a sequel which will start filming next year.

Conall Cernach

Basq wrote: »

Yeah, this one has been referred to as "The Loser's Club".. there'll be a sequel which will start filming next year.

The Missus won't like me dragging her to something that won't have a proper conclusion.