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Looking for advice on purchasing strategy

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    #32
    dingding
    Registered Users Posts: 4,931 ✭✭✭dingding


    Tom Dunne wrote: »
    Looking at a Renault Kadjar, 20 km (yes, 20, not 20,000 :) ) 25,500, 161 reg. List price is 29, 950 for this model, so a saving of 4000.

    Gorgeous car, lots of gadgets for me. :)

    When you go to sell trade in a few years that saving will reduce the cost of upgrading as well. Good luck with it.


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    #33
    grogi
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    dingding wrote: »
    When you go to sell trade in a few years that saving will reduce the cost of upgrading as well. Good luck with it.

    That's some creative accounting... The same saving consumed twice...


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    #34
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users Posts: 73,384 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Tom Dunne wrote: »
    Looking at a Renault Kadjar, 20 km (yes, 20, not 20,000 :) ) 25,500, 161 reg. List price is 29, 950 for this model, so a saving of 4000.

    Gorgeous car, lots of gadgets for me. :)

    Nobody pays list price for a Renault.
    Still nice discount, but you'd get a fair chunk of that anyway.
    That said, even if you're only saving €1k extra it's worth it.

    Keep an eye on qashqais as they will most certainly have a higher resale value despite being essentially the same thing.


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    #35
    Wesser
    Registered Users Posts: 1,813 ✭✭✭Wesser


    How is 25 k not alot of cash to throw around?


    I wish I had 25 k to spend on a car. I only have about 2.


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    #36
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users Posts: 73,384 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    You need to become an admin!


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    #37
    Tom Dunne
    Registered Users Posts: 23,212 ✭✭✭✭Tom Dunne


    Wesser wrote: »
    How is 25 k not alot of cash to throw around?


    I wish I had 25 k to spend on a car. I only have about 2.

    Who said it wasn't a lot of cash?


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    #38
    Wesser
    Registered Users Posts: 1,813 ✭✭✭Wesser


    You did.

    You said that you did not want the salesman to assume ( incorrectly) that you have a lot of cash to throw around.

    the word " incorrectly" implies that you believe you do not have alot of cash.


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    #39
    Tom Dunne
    Registered Users Posts: 23,212 ✭✭✭✭Tom Dunne


    Just a quick update - I'm picking up the Kadjar tomorrow.

    It's been an interesting experience, gone are the days of haggling to get the best deal, a buyer may get a token €1000 off, but nothing more.

    I was surprised with the level of apathy and disinterest I experienced, salesmen obviously don't have to work too hard for a sale these days. While I acknowledge my timing wasn't optimum, I didn't have a lot of choice other than to buy now.

    Having said that, I am looking forward to enjoying the car and the various gadgets it has to offer.


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    #40
    grogi
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    Tom Dunne wrote: »
    Just a quick update - I'm picking up the Kadjar tomorrow.

    It's been an interesting experience, gone are the days of haggling to get the best deal, a buyer may get a token €1000 off, but nothing more.

    I was surprised with the level of apathy and disinterest I experienced, salesmen obviously don't have to work too hard for a sale these days. While I acknowledge my timing wasn't optimum, I didn't have a lot of choice other than to buy now.

    Having said that, I am looking forward to enjoying the car and the various gadgets it has to offer.

    They are not gone... It's Renault :D


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    #41
    Avatar MIA
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,750 ✭✭✭Avatar MIA


    grogi wrote: »
    They are not gone... It's Renault :D

    :confused:


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    #42
    bazz26
    Registered Users Posts: 51,130 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Tom Dunne wrote: »
    Just a quick update - I'm picking up the Kadjar tomorrow.

    It's been an interesting experience, gone are the days of haggling to get the best deal, a buyer may get a token €1000 off, but nothing more.

    I was surprised with the level of apathy and disinterest I experienced, salesmen obviously don't have to work too hard for a sale these days. While I acknowledge my timing wasn't optimum, I didn't have a lot of choice other than to buy now.

    Having said that, I am looking forward to enjoying the car and the various gadgets it has to offer.


    It's a case of supply v demand.
    1. New car sales for last year and this year to date are at a record high so there is less necessity for dealers to work hard for a sale.
    2. Also the second half year registration change only kicked in at the beginning of July so new cars are still going out the door in fairly healthy numbers.
    3. Another thing is that you were in the market for a type of car that have become very popular here in the last number of years. Dealers have no problem selling crossover SUV vehicles.

    To get the best deal you really need to pick the correct time when sales are slower than normal and preferably a car that does not have high demand.


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    #43
    deandean
    Registered Users Posts: 2,218 ✭✭✭deandean


    Tom Dunne wrote: »
    Just a quick update - I'm picking up the Kadjar tomorrow.

    Best wishes with the new car. It's a very pretty bus, I'd pick it any day over the Quashqai.

    By any chance did you get one in that lovely candy apple red?


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    #44
    Tom Dunne
    Registered Users Posts: 23,212 ✭✭✭✭Tom Dunne


    deandean wrote: »
    By any chance did you get one in that lovely candy apple red?

    Dear God, no. :D

    Although, admittedly, it is very nice. Went for the conservative dark grey.


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    #45
    Toyotafanboi
    Registered Users Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    Good luck with the Kadjar. They are infinitely nicer than a Quasqai imo.

    What spec is it? Did you get Bose, or the panoramic roof? Both nice options on them!


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    #46
    MojoMaker
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    Far nicer car than the Nissan, and more practical too. As asked, what spec did you go for? Some tasty options on the Renault list for that model alright.


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    #47
    audi12
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 890 ✭✭✭audi12


    Tom Dunne wrote: »
    Just looking for advice on how I should handle a car purchase.

    I'm a returning emigrant, so I have no trade-in. I'm also a cash buyer, so no banks/finance needed. I will most likely buy new.

    I don't want to let the dealer know I am returning from the Middle East, as I am sure they will jump to the (incorrect) assumption that I have plenty of cash to throw around.

    Just wondering on the whole finance thing - are car salesman on commission for getting customers to sign up for finance? As in, does it put me in a weaker position because I won't be signing up for finance?

    Any ideas on what kind of discount to expect on a car? If the list price, say, for a Hyundai Tuscon is 25,475, what should my target be to haggle the salesman down? I also believe these are flying off the salesroom floor, so the salesman may not be as willing to haggle.

    Any tips for me when I go into a garage to start the negotiations?

    I worked in car sales for in a garage selling hyundais for the past year. You must have plenty of money if you are buying with cash.


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    #48
    audi12
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 890 ✭✭✭audi12


    grogi wrote: »
    Qashqai is much nicer place to be in than the over-hyped Tucson if you're looking for a crossover.

    You might check its Renault Kadjar - but what you experience at Skoda is my typical experience at Renault garage.

    Sold Tucsons no longer in sales but do not agree dont see the attraction with them Nissans as for the Renault awful advice deprecation is crazy and its a Renault enough said.


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    #49
    Tom Dunne
    Registered Users Posts: 23,212 ✭✭✭✭Tom Dunne


    Toyotafanboi wrote: »
    Good luck with the Kadjar. They are infinitely nicer than a Quasqai imo.

    What spec is it? Did you get Bose, or the panoramic roof? Both nice options on them!

    It's the Dynamique Nava model. Didn't get the panoramic roof, not sure about the Bose speakers, I'll check. It's a lovely drive, but I'm having a (well known) issue with getting my Samsung connected to it over Bluetooth.
    audi12 wrote: »
    I worked in car sales for in a garage selling hyundais for the past year. You must have plenty of money if you are buying with cash.

    Seriously, WTF has this got to do with anything? I studied hard, I worked hard and I saved hard. Do us all a favour and take your begrudgery elsewhere.


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    #50
    bazz26
    Registered Users Posts: 51,130 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    audi12 wrote: »
    I worked in car sales for in a garage selling hyundais for the past year. You must have plenty of money if you are buying with cash.

    How much money or how the OP spends it is nobody's concern but the OPs. Typical Irish begrudging attitude though.
    audi12 wrote: »
    Sold Tucsons no longer in sales but do not agree dont see the attraction with them Nissans as for the Renault awful advice deprecation is crazy and its a Renault enough said.

    Not difficult to think why.


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