Tell us about your new improved government regulations compliant cycle part II

Seth Brundle

Went out today for a spin around Kilteel and Rathmore but that was a horrible wind
In the end I knocked about 30km off my route. Had planned on trying a route that would have kept me within the Kildare border bringing me out around Glending woods but I decided to call it a day. With a club spin tomorrow morning, I wanted to make sure my legs weren't even more knackered than they have been recently.
One close pass courtesy of a garda out on patrol :rolleyes:

https://strava.app.link/IpSj1knH88

Did approx 60k @ 26.5kph with a friend who is relatively new to cycling. Very windy and caught in one heavy shower but warm and pleasant for the most part. As I was at my leisure I decided to practice getting out of the saddle on climbs, gearing higher and spinning instead of grinding, which was the norm for me. I think I'll get out of my reliance on the big ring. I've felt a few twinges in my knees and I actually enjoyed getting out of the saddle. It will be interesting to see how my times on climbs stack up when I go for my next spin.

Seth Brundle

Went out around N. Kildare this morning and took in 65kms. Thr weather was grand, different from the forecasted rain (there were a few misty spots but nothing worth worrying about).
On my way home I passed a fella who had just dumped some rubbish outside the grounds of Carton House. He denied it was his but I have him on camera so am looking forwards to giving it to Kildare Co Co. His van was for a cleaning business of which he seems to be the person in charge :rolleyes:

magicbastarder

Might be worth giving it to carton house too? They won't be impressed with that behaviour and if they contact the council with the evidence I suspect it will be taken more seriously than a private individual doing so.

ED E

Weepsie wrote: »

What a gowl. I counted 4 mattresses dumped around Kilbride/tyrellstown/coolquay back roads yesterday. I hate these people

A lot of its the governments fault. Not the industrial stuff but the rest.


Waste should be municipal and mandatory. That way you don't create a monetary incentive to fly tip. Enforcement will never be practical. Right now Dublin is dumping in Wicklow/Meath and those CCs are footing the bill.

Anyways this is cycling not politics.

Eamonnator

a148pro wrote: »

That's beautiful. Please tell me the tan walls are a communist classic?

Years ago, there was a Russian team in The Rás, and they brought a moxy load of tubular tyres with them to trade. Lads were pulling them out of attics for years afterwards.

Eamonnator

Our spin this morning took in the road from Kentstown to Duleek. Wind was from a lovely direction, it was deadly, doing 47-48 kpm at 90rpm. for what seemed like ages.

magicbastarder

out towards maynooth and back. going great guns for the first 30 or 45 mins, and then the legs just ran out of steam. well, my average speed overall was fine (29km/h) but i struggled through the second half.

Weepsie

Weepsie wrote: »

Passed a group of 4 lads from Philippines (according to their kit) in Sutton. They were coming into the carpark at the summit as I was leaving a little while later. One of them was cursing blind going up the hill which gave me a chuckle. I've been that person before.

Only 4? Theres usually few more of them if it's the same group I've met a few times.

This them ? Got to love the camera mans jersey.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BkHf2a1KUg

velo.2010

magicbastarder wrote: »

out towards maynooth and back. going great guns for the first 30 or 45 mins, and then the legs just ran out of steam. well, my average speed overall was fine (29km/h) but i struggled through the second half.

You don't ride with small clip-on bars by any chance?

smacl

Cycled home from the sister in-laws place near Mount Leinster this morning, climb up to the Nine Stones with a bit of a hangover was not good and blowy enough on the descent. Back home via Bunclody, Clonegal, Shillelagh, Tinahely, Aughrim, Rathdrum, Laragh and the backroads above Roundwood to Enniskerry for 123k with 1.7k of up. Going grand for the first 80k but had forgotten what an evil little climb that backroad from Laragh is.

Don't Chute!

ED E wrote: »

A lot of its the governments fault. Not the industrial stuff but the rest.


Waste should be municipal and mandatory. That way you don't create a monetary incentive to fly tip. Enforcement will never be practical. Right now Dublin is dumping in Wicklow/Meath and those CCs are footing the bill.

Anyways this is cycling not politics.

I’m sorry but, no this is absolutely NOT the government’s fault. If someone does this it’s their fault nobody else’s.

Mercian Pro

smacl wrote: »

Going grand for the first 80k but had forgotten what an evil little climb that backroad from Laragh is.

Only discovered it on the Mini-Evil and rate it far better than going on the main road through Annamoe and Roundwood. So far I've only done it north to south and, while there's a bit of a kick near Lough Dan, it's well worth it to avoid the traffic especially at the weekend. Looking at the profile, I can see how going the other direction, especially towards the end of a long spin, might be a tougher choice.

Daroxtar

Went out the club spin today. Some genius decided that we should head straight into the breeze on arguably the most exposed stretch of road in North Kildare/Offaly or as one lad called it, Wuhan. It was a pure fkng grind the whole way from Enfield to Edenderry and then even worse across Mount Lucas and into Daingean. We always seem to take that road when it's either freezing or a dirty headwind.
I managed to get myself in between 2 skinny A2s in the rotation and suffered like a dog trying to keep pace with one and then getting no shelter behind the other little whippet when he'd roll over ahead of me. I might as well have been behind a wasp. I think every time I got to the front my HR went up high enough to shorten my lifespan. Never been so happy to get to the coffee stop.
I made sure I got in between two bigger lads for the road across from Daingean through Tyrrellspass and into Mullingar. Didn't have the headwind to compete with there so it wasn't too bad and finally we got the tailwind for the last 30km from there to Kinnegad and home to Longwood. I was well drained at the end and in no hurry to do any extra kms to round up to nice even figures.
117km @33.8 kmh so it's no wonder I was knackered. The Garmin said I'd need about a week to recover
https://www.strava.com/activities/3953876133

CramCycle

ED E wrote: »

A lot of its the governments fault. Not the industrial stuff but the rest.


Waste should be municipal and mandatory. That way you don't create a monetary incentive to fly tip. Enforcement will never be practical. Right now Dublin is dumping in Wicklow/Meath and those CCs are footing the bill.

Anyways this is cycling not politics.

Most recycling centres have mattress days over the year so its free bar holding it. As for monetary incentive, even if you don't use the above, most dumps will take it as part of a car load for under 30euro, meaning just 30euro reduces it to no risk of a fine, to blame government seems lazy. Just my opinion.

a148pro

Just on the dumping, today's cycle spotted f loads of car wheels up around the feather beds, anyone else see those? Don't think I saw them before. Initially thought first one must have been from a crash or carelessly discarded, but then saw around 8 in total. Must have been dumped from a van. Cretins.

They really should use drones for that stretch and amend law so mandatory forfeiture of any vehicle involved in dumping. Would pay for the drones / wages of enforcement quick enough I'd say.

In better news managed 2k vertical for first time, in only 87k spin, mostly fire roads and trails. 2k in 87k is pretty stark is it? Maybe mountain bikers hit those kind of numbers. Anything close to that before has been well over 100k, laragh return ex city centre is my touchstone, maybe 1600m vertical over 100k.

Tell me how

a148pro wrote: »

Just on the dumping, today's cycle spotted f loads of car wheels up around the feather beds, anyone else see those? Don't think I saw them before. Initially thought first one must have been from a crash or carelessly discarded, but then saw around 8 in total. Must have been dumped from a van. Cretins.

They really should use drones for that stretch and amend law so mandatory forfeiture of any vehicle involved in dumping. Would pay for the drones / wages of enforcement quick enough I'd say.

In better news managed 2k vertical for first time, in only 87k spin, mostly fire roads and trails. 2k in 87k is pretty stark is it? Maybe mountain bikers hit those kind of numbers. Anything close to that before has been well over 100k, laragh return ex city centre is my touchstone, maybe 1600m vertical over 100k.

I generally consider anything above a 1% average at the end of a ride to have constituted a hilly ride. Based on my ability and experience no doubt but by that measure, 2K in 87K is impressive.

retalivity

Re the filipino lads, they are a cycling club from naas iirc, i met them at a reservoir dog a few years ago, nice fellas.

Went out today with intentions of going up kippure, bit the wind around lough bray was terrible so just did a loop right at sally gap and back to dublin via the military range. Descending from sally gap on that side into a strong headwind is mad, once the gradient eased i was nearly at a stop

magicbastarder

me too - 10m climbing average per km is what i'd usually use to distinguish a flat ride from a hilly one. 15m per km is very hilly, 20m is mountainous.

secman

Sat:
Missed the club spin, had family and grand kids down for a few days...hard work went out solo , Ballyedmund, oulart, Enniscorthy into a strong headwind, but from Enniscorthy back to Gorey a nice tail wind. 52 km avg 30.1 kph followed by a 14km roll home avg 28 kph
Sunday: only brough 1 bottle and no food... blaming the visitors so decided to skip the spin with the racers, headed out with the tour group Gorey to Arklow, Brittas bay, Jack Whites and back to Arklow, coast road to Castletown, Tara hill, Ballymoney, they headed to Gorey, i decided to do a bit more, headed to Courtown, Ballygarrett, Killenagh, Ballycanew and back to Gorey. 89km avg 29.1 kph almost 700 meters.

a148pro

Tell me how wrote: »

I generally consider anything above a 1% average at the end of a ride to have constituted a hilly ride. Based on my ability and experience no doubt but by that measure, 2K in 87K is impressive.

I'll take that to the bank. I'm (genuinely) always getting passed out by aul lads on hybrids on the way to the yellow house so this is my moment in the sun.

Borderline hallucinating on way back due to lack of water, may have imagined car wheels. Think I'm going to buy iodine tablets and stash a few in the saddle bag, second time i've been stuck cycling along beside running water while parched, it's torture. Glencree was closed and there's nothing between powerscourt and home.

smacl

Mercian Pro wrote: »

Only discovered it on the Mini-Evil and rate it far better than going on the main road through Annamoe and Roundwood. So far I've only done it north to south and, while there's a bit of a kick near Lough Dan, it's well worth it to avoid the traffic especially at the weekend. Looking at the profile, I can see how going the other direction, especially towards the end of a long spin, might be a tougher choice.

Agreed, while it's a tough enough haul coming from Laragh, it is pretty much traffic free and a very sheltered route. I use it on days where I want the climb but don't fancy the cross winds going over the gap.

Kevhog1988

Daroxtar wrote: »

Went out the club spin today. Some genius decided that we should head straight into the breeze on arguably the most exposed stretch of road in North Kildare/Offaly or as one lad called it, Wuhan. It was a pure fkng grind the whole way from Enfield to Edenderry and then even worse across Mount Lucas and into Daingean. We always seem to take that road when it's either freezing or a dirty headwind.
I managed to get myself in between 2 skinny A2s in the rotation and suffered like a dog trying to keep pace with one and then getting no shelter behind the other little whippet when he'd roll over ahead of me. I might as well have been behind a wasp. I think every time I got to the front my HR went up high enough to shorten my lifespan. Never been so happy to get to the coffee stop.
I made sure I got in between two bigger lads for the road across from Daingean through Tyrrellspass and into Mullingar. Didn't have the headwind to compete with there so it wasn't too bad and finally we got the tailwind for the last 30km from there to Kinnegad and home to Longwood. I was well drained at the end and in no hurry to do any extra kms to round up to nice even figures.
117km @33.8 kmh so it's no wonder I was knackered. The Garmin said I'd need about a week to recover
https://www.strava.com/activities/3953876133

Thats my home ground lol. Its an absolute dog of an exposed road with a continuous drag from say JTB to the Roundabout in Carbury. P.S its only Wuhan when you cross the boyne into edenderry... 5 cases in Carbury and 78 in Edenderry in last 3 months.

Kevhog1988

https://www.strava.com/activities/3953248289

Very steady sunday spin with a few from the village. Ages ranging from 17 to almost 70.

Coming out of Allenwood a lad passed us without even a hello which didn't go down well with our senior member lol. I took after him and passed him at the dump before pulling in to the school to wait on the lads. Yer man was not impressed when he came by me for the 2nd time when i stopped .

brownian

Don't Chute! wrote: »

I’m sorry but, no this is absolutely NOT the government’s fault. If someone does this it’s their fault nobody else’s.

Hmmm. You look at France and Spain - domestic waste disposal is covered by (tax). You look at European countries where, once a month, you can leave furniture, washing machines or whatever out for collection. I know this goes contrary to the 'polluter pays' principal, but there's a lot less litter and I am not aware of fly-tipping of domestic waste as a phenomenon.

When you incentivise people to act badly (by making them pay to act well), then you will get people to act badly. Not everyone, but enough that you get what we see every time we cycle. When you couple that with general Irish lack of respect for the environment (litter, farm waste/silage wrapping, fishing waste on beaches...), you get the distressing mess we are all familiar with.

I don't fly tip myself. I can see Don't Chute and others will say 'if people don't misbehave...'. That's true. But it doesn't work, because we are paying people to misbehave, by charging them specifically for rubbish collection. If rubbish collection was free (included in tax), and/or there were dumpsters/superbins easily available, then there would be no incincentive to fly tip, or 'have a man take this stuff away'. The government can change this.

brownian

Anyway, back to cycling. The nephew (14) wanted to get his first 100k in, so uncle B was drafted in. Looking at weather and what not, and with a willing mother/sister with a car, we drove down to Wexford on Saturday morning, then hit the road for N Wicklow (100 k away).

Plenty of tailwind, which was great, and a fair bit of damp weather - jacket on, jacket off, jacket on... Lots of small little towns (Ferns [coffee], Camolin, Coolgreany [coke] Craanford, Hollyfort, Woodenbridge, Avoca, Rathdrum), lots of small little hills (plus a steep hoor just N of Hollyfort!). Some nice quiet backroads enjoyed by all.

4.5 hours including a couple of short stops. The young lad was most impressed.

Don't Chute!

brownian wrote: »

Hmmm. You look at France and Spain - domestic waste disposal is covered by (tax). You look at European countries where, once a month, you can leave furniture, washing machines or whatever out for collection. I know this goes contrary to the 'polluter pays' principal, but there's a lot less litter and I am not aware of fly-tipping of domestic waste as a phenomenon.

When you incentivise people to act badly (by making them pay to act well), then you will get people to act badly. Not everyone, but enough that you get what we see every time we cycle. When you couple that with general Irish lack of respect for the environment (litter, farm waste/silage wrapping, fishing waste on beaches...), you get the distressing mess we are all familiar with.

I don't fly tip myself. I can see Don't Chute and others will say 'if people don't misbehave...'. That's true. But it doesn't work, because we are paying people to misbehave, by charging them specifically for rubbish collection. If rubbish collection was free (included in tax), and/or there were dumpsters/superbins easily available, then there would be no incincentive to fly tip, or 'have a man take this stuff away'. The government can change this.

Paddy gets caught fly-tipping: it’s the gubbermint wot made me do it.
Paddy gets caught speeding: it’s the gubbermints fault for having speed cameras everywhere.
The vast majority of **** you see on the roadside is just someone opening their window and throwing something out. That has nothing to do with money or incentives it’s just scumbag behavior. In Ireland it’s ALWAYS somebody else’s fault.

puddles22

70k on a 3k stretch of road, in a small island in the middle of the Atlantic

https://youtu.be/GAXaHbOoy9g

https://strava.app.link/3AJvnZDrd9

ED E

puddles22 wrote: »

70k on a 3k stretch of road, in a small island in the middle of the Atlantic

https://youtu.be/GAXaHbOoy9g

https://strava.app.link/3AJvnZDrd9

Was holding my breath there until the collision avoidance kicked in.

Somebody go and steal the KOM

puddles22

ED E wrote: »

Somebody go and steal the KOM

its the only KOM i'll ever hold lol