Off Topic Thread 3.0

molloyjh

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

I watched the first series and while I thought it was pretty decent at the time, I never got around to starting the second series. BBC have done better things.

Yeah I thought the first season was pretty good without being anything hugely special. Saw season 2 and it was better in some ways and not in others. Never watched season 3 though. It's a good show, but it isn't a great one.

sydthebeat

Season 3 is actually very decent, the baddie in it really makes it good, and is a pretty closed storyline

wp_rathead

Okay thanks, few people I know were raving about it so maybe my expectations were too high
I was expecting something like "Hannibal"
It's still very watchable mind

wp_rathead

wp_rathead wrote: »

Okay thanks, few people I know were raving about it so maybe my expectations were too high
I was expecting something like "Hannibal"
It's still very watchable mind

It's a good character show. The main story definitely is second to the characters and their relationships

Synode

Anglo 3 jailed.

http://www.businesspost.ie/jail-sentences-for-anglo-trial-trio/

wp_rathead

Between 2-3 Years (be out in less) for bankrupting the country - seems rather lenient

Bazzo

wp_rathead wrote: »

Between 2-3 Years (be out in less) for bankrupting the country - seems rather lenient

Considering how rare it is for these lads to get any jail time I'll take it.

wp_rathead

Bazzo wrote: »

Considering how rare it is for these lads to get any jail time I'll take it.

Kinda sad that's true alright

CatFromHue

wp_rathead wrote: »

Between 2-3 Years (be out in less) for bankrupting the country - seems rather lenient

The country was already well on the way to being bankrupt, they just delayed it by a bit.

Our Govt spending was inflated due to income from the construction bubble and the banks by then were pretty much screwed if anything bad happen. That bad thing was always going to happen too.

stephen_n

wp_rathead wrote: »

Between 2-3 Years (be out in less) for bankrupting the country - seems rather lenient

The ones who bankrupted the country will never face trial. These guys just bankrupted the banks we guaranteed.

wp_rathead

wp_rathead wrote: »

Between 2-3 Years (be out in less) for bankrupting the country - seems rather lenient

Ah cmon, I think they're dodgey corrupt ****ers but the €7.2bn in fraudulent activity pales, absolutely pales in significance when compared to the enormous funding gap the government had!



These lads certainly did not help, but I wouldn't put it all on their shoulders!

stephen_n

Deleted User wrote: »

Ah cmon, I think they're dodgey corrupt ****ers but the €7.2bn in fraudulent activity pales, absolutely pales in significance when compared to the enormous funding gap the government had!



These lads certainly did not help, but I wouldn't put it all on their shoulders!

So that's what a soft landing looks like.

stephen_n

stephen_n wrote: »

So that's what a soft landing looks like.

That graph is the difference (in % terms of GDP) between what the Government spent in each year and what it raised in revenues.

The gap is made up through borrowing, so that you or I, or our descendants can pay for it (with interest).

A non-soft landing would have meant that that 32.3% gap in 2010 would have simply been money not-spent, instead of money-borrowed.

If you think that that would have been anything but almost intolerably hard, you are mistaken.

CatFromHue

stephen_n wrote: »

The ones who bankrupted the country will never face trial. These guys just bankrupted the banks we guaranteed.

the thing that worries me is that I'm not sure the guys who bankrupted the country will ever face trial as there's not much to convict them of.

for the banks they didn't follow best practice but I don't think that was illegal.

for the govt they just spend the money coming in without looking at why it was coming in in the first place. not best practice but not illegal

the regulator seemed to just be incompetent, but I don't think he did anything illegal

the unions were just happy to get the best deal for their members and didn't care what position that put the country in.

we've had a banking enquiry but I don't ever see there being an enquiry into the other reasons which were just as important

Teferi

Re: Jail sentence - what does that achieve aside from pleasing the working and lower-middle class who have been screaming for blood for years? I'm generally against jail sentences for non-violent crimes (especially for first time offenders). Surely their time is better spent giving back to or improving the community they have taken so much from instead of sitting in a cell funded by tax payer money?

Bazzo

Teferi wrote: »

Re: Jail sentence - what does that achieve aside from pleasing the working and lower-middle class who have been screaming for blood for years? I'm generally against jail sentences for non-violent crimes (especially for first time offenders). Surely their time is better spent giving back to or improving the community they have taken so much from instead of sitting in a cell funded by tax payer money?

If you're against jail terms for white collar crime in general that's fine but if they'd been shown leniency while any common joe up or down the country would be jailed for fraud it would just solidify the perception that it's one law for the elite and one for the common people.

The purpose of jailing them I suppose is the same as anyone else, nobody is above the law.

sydthebeat

Teferi wrote: »

Re: Jail sentence - what does that achieve aside from pleasing the working and lower-middle class who have been screaming for blood for years? I'm generally against jail sentences for non-violent crimes (especially for first time offenders). Surely their time is better spent giving back to or improving the community they have taken so much from instead of sitting in a cell funded by tax payer money?

some times non violent crimes can have much wider devastating effects than violent crimes.

community service would be in no way acceptable or proportional to the these particular fraud crimes.

i personally think the sentences are all about 50% too lenient.

Buer

Teferi wrote: »

Re: Jail sentence - what does that achieve aside from pleasing the working and lower-middle class who have been screaming for blood for years? I'm generally against jail sentences for non-violent crimes (especially for first time offenders). Surely their time is better spent giving back to or improving the community they have taken so much from instead of sitting in a cell funded by tax payer money?

I can see the merit in your approach but prison time is the ultimate deterrent to them. If the same situation arises in 5 years, those involved will think long and hard before taking the same actions.

The idea of prison is utterly terrifying to your average middle class, well to do banker, much more so than paying back through community service, financial penalties etc.

stephen_n

It's not exactly like they will see the inside of a proper prison for more than a week. Before being transferred to the training unit and then on to a minimum security prison. Not sure how big a deterrent they will face. Their fall from grace and the social stigma of a custodial sentence though is another matter. That will live with them for a very long time.

Felix Jones is God

Podge Harrington haveing a great round today -5 to leave him -4 overall...life in the old dog yet it seems

Stheno

Felix Jones is God wrote: »

Podge Harrington haveing a great round today -5 to leave him -4 overall...life in the old dog yet it seems

I'd love to see him charge up tomorrow, very likeable golfer

Zzippy

Play suspended so most of the rest of the top 10 will have to play 2 rounds tomorrow, while Harrington can have a lie in and just has to play one round, which is a big help. Of course, the leaders could be out of sight by then!

mfceiling

And the new featherweight champion of the world...

pickarooney

mfceiling wrote: »

And the new featherweight champion of the world...

Who?

Felix Jones is God

pickarooney wrote: »

Who?

Carl Frampton....next up for up for him the Jackal v's the Jackal

mfceiling

pickarooney wrote: »

Who?

Dear, dear, dear...

Podge_irl

Belfast is a slightly weird place. Centre is quite nice, but gf wanted to see some murals - it was a very weird/unsettling experience.

Podge_irl

Podge_irl wrote: »

Belfast is a slightly weird place. Centre is quite nice, but gf wanted to see some murals - it was a very weird/unsettling experience.

I've been living here for the last couple of months. It's grand really

CatFromHue

I lived there for awhile and I agree with both of you.

Buer

Tis a grand weird place.