Safe Spacers' Triggered over building name

stoplooklisten

A row erupting over naming a building after a scientist, awarded the nobel peace prize for his 1962, for describing the structure of the double helix.


But he said some things and the safe spacers are now protesting.

It's like the guy with the shirt all over again.

What contributions have the safe spacers made to science? Will they be expecting a building named after them?


http://www.thejournal.ie/ucc-james-watson-building-2826489-Jun2016/

Sonics2k

To be fair, I despise the Safe Space type people, but this guy was a dick.

Yes he contributed to academia, but he also a horrible person. Don't compare it to Matt Taylor, a completely innocent man wearing a tacky shirt.

The Backwards Man

Is safe spacer the new term for someone who's opinion you don't agree with and rather than come up with a decent argument you resort to name-calling?

Where I'm from a safe spacer is something you put between double wheels on the tractor for the bog.

stoplooklisten

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Is safe spacer the new term for someone who's opinion you don't agree with and rather than come up with a decent argument you resort to name-calling?

Where I'm from a safe spacer is something you put between double wheels on the tractor for the bog.

Bog lingo is leaking mainstream....

This scientist said somethings 10? years ago that some people didn't like. Was he proven wrong or right?

He uncovered the structure of the double helix, something that will long be used and remembered after the safe spacers complete their humanities degrees. They can't do science themselves, so focus on shirts and other stuff, hurr, durr, we're just as important. Unless you've discovered something equally import for humanity, no you not...

FURET

Sonics2k wrote: »

To be fair, I despise the Safe Space type people, but this guy was a dick.

Yes he contributed to academia, but he also a horrible person. Don't compare it to Matt Taylor, a completely innocent man wearing a tacky shirt.

Isaac Newton was horrible too, but many things are named after him.

AnonoBoy

FURET wrote: »

Isaac Newton was horrible too, but many things are named after him.

Isn't it called an Isaac Newtown when you have sex with someone while they have an apple in their mouth?

Barry Badrinath

I think his scientific contribution to this world far outweigh his personal comments.

But whatdoiknow.

AnonoBoy

There's nothing about safe spaces in this story at all.

Why use the term 'safe spacers'?

Jawgap

Sonics2k wrote: »

To be fair, I despise the Safe Space type people, but this guy was a dick.

Yes he contributed to academia, but he also a horrible person. Don't compare it to Matt Taylor, a completely innocent man wearing a tacky shirt.

'he contributed to academia' - bit like saying Pasteur contributed a bit to dairy science or Florey did some good work with mice pi$$ :rolleyes:

He said some stupid, ignorant things - hardly grounds to dismiss his entire body of work, and deny him due recognition.

At least they're naming the building after someone who contributed more than a fat cheque to the university.

Renegade Mechanic

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Is safe spacer the new term for someone who's opinion you don't agree with and rather than come up with a decent argument you resort to name-calling?

Where I'm from a safe spacer is something you put between double wheels on the tractor for the bog.

Oh ho ho ho ho you poor ****er, you actually think you can "argue" with a safe spacer...
I get what you're saying alright. Like "Putinbots" or "Shinnerbots".

But trust me. They pale in comparison to what these people are. "Safe spacers" is quite honestly all you can truthfully call them while remaining unbanned.

Butters1979

Bunch of spanners.

stoplooklisten

here's the comments he made ..

In 2007, he told The Times he was “inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa (because) all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours – whereas all the testing says not really”.

In 1997, he said: “If you could find the gene that determines sexuality, and a woman decides she doesn’t want a homosexual child, well, let her.”

He has also been critical of feminism and said that “it would be great” if all girls were pretty.

1.how's africa doing?
2. To disagree is to deny a womans rights to anatomy. You're as bad as iona
3. so?

AnonoBoy

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

But trust me. They pale in comparison to what these people are. "Safe spacers" is quite honestly all you can truthfully call them while remaining unbanned.

But but but..... there's nothing about 'safe spaces' in this story?

Is this just one of these new annoying terms that are going to be used completely inaccurately and I'm just going to have to get used to it (but never like it)?

Like 'selfie' being used for a photograph taken by someone else - it's called a selfie because you took it yourself you f*cking idiots!

SEPT 23 1989

Scientists walk a fine line between the laboratory and a mental asylum

would we have it any other way?

Ficheall

"In 2007, he told The Times he was “inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa (because) all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours – whereas all the testing says not really”.
In 1997, he said: “If you could find the gene that determines sexuality, and a woman decides she doesn’t want a homosexual child, well, let her.”
He has also been critical of feminism and said that “it would be great” if all girls were pretty."


I dunno about the first thing, but the others are hardly that bad. Some people are in favour of "designing your own baby", and it would be great if all boys were handsome. Meh.

Its dead Jim

They should focus their attention on important things, like gender neutral clothing. :pac:

Only had a quick read through it but didn't notice safe space being used anywhere in the article.

kupus

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Is safe spacer the new term for someone who's opinion you don't agree with and rather than come up with a decent argument you resort to name-calling?

Where I'm from a safe spacer is something you put between double wheels on the tractor for the bog.

Well it's a lot better than "gobs1te silver spooned liberals that haven't a clue about life outside of their circle jerk comfy bubble".

AnonoBoy

Has anyone mentioned Josef Mengele yet in all of this?

Nope?

Ok, just give it time!

AnonoBoy

kupus wrote: »

Well it's a lot better than "gobs1te silver spooned liberals that haven't a clue about life outside of their circle jerk comfy bubble".

There's already a word for that: Academics!

The Backwards Man

Butters1979 wrote: »

Bunch of spanners.

Spanners aren't much good for spacers, you need to batter them in with a sledge.

beach_walker

Its dead Jim wrote: »

They should focus their attention on important things, like gender neutral clothing. :pac:

Has anyone checked the toilet situation in the new building...

The Backwards Man

kupus wrote: »

Well it's a lot better than "gobs1te silver spooned liberals that haven't a clue about life outside of their circle jerk comfy bubble".

There's plenty of people posting in this forum that would benefit greatly from a hard day's hashing, and they aren't all liberals either.

AnonoBoy

The Backwards Man wrote: »

There's plenty of people posting in this forum that would benefit greatly from a hard day's hashing, and they aren't all liberals either.

A hard day's hashing, eh? Please see my post about Isaac Newton above.

Renegade Mechanic

AnonoBoy wrote: »

But but but..... there's nothing about 'safe spaces' in this story?

Is this just one of these new annoying terms that are going to be used completely inaccurately and I'm just going to have to get used to it (but never like it)?

Like 'selfie' being used for a photograph taken by someone else - it's called a selfie because you took it yourself you f*cking idiots!

It's literally on the twitter link in the article
https://mobile.twitter.com/Karl_Kitching/status/743082926032736256?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
You're right on the selfie point though.

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Has anyone mentioned Josef Mengele yet in all of this?

Nope?

Ok, just give it time!

Shhhhh, popcorn isn't done yet!

hidinginthebush

Watson made some incredible contributions to science, so can't see why there is any outrage about naming a building after him.

As an aside, I did see him speak once, and can confirm he is an absolute bellend. Comes across as very misogynistic and petty, with an axe to grind about past grievances. But at the end of the day, there's no denying (or maybe there is, but that's probably for another thread) the contribution himself and Crick made to the world of science.

silverharp

Its dead Jim wrote: »

They should focus their attention on important things, like gender neutral clothing. :pac:

Only had a quick read through it but didn't notice safe space being used anywhere in the article.

the guy uses it on his twatter , he sound like a bit of a plonker

Karl Kitching ‏@Karl_Kitching · 21h21 hours ago

Protesting speech which makes our UCC feel like a less safe space. No to naming a UCC building after James Watson.

AnonoBoy

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

It's literally on the twitter link in the article

Ah! I just skimmed the article.

That's a silly thing to say really.

If they don't want the building named after him because he was a big mean racist misogynist or whatever then that's up to them to protest about. But it's nothing to do with safe spaces. Nobody will feel less safe because a building is named one thing rather than another will they?

Butters1979

kupus wrote: »

Well it's a lot better than "gobs1te silver spooned liberals that haven't a clue about life outside of their circle jerk comfy bubble".

I disagree, what you said is much better.

GSSLTHACALOOFTCJCB for short.

Fleawuss

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Is safe spacer the new term for someone who's opinion you don't agree with and rather than come up with a decent argument you resort to name-calling?

Where I'm from a safe spacer is something you put between double wheels on the tractor for the bog.

Back in the day it was a piece of crap we used in web site design. Reputedly making a comeback with the animated GIF no less. Maybe it was just a spacer. that might be something else again of course.

stoplooklisten

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Ah! I just skimmed the article.

That's a silly thing to say really.

If they don't want the building named after him because he was a big mean racist misogynist or whatever then that's up to them to protest about. But it's nothing to do with safe spaces. Nobody will feel less safe because a building is named one thing rather than another will they?

I presume it is implied the Africans, homosexuals and feminists would "feel unsafe" and triggered becasue he said some stuff.

sheesh

Butters1979 wrote: »

Bunch of spanners.

I see what you did there, very clever



AS for the OP if that is the worst of what he said then they need to get over themselves. Using Homosexuality as an example of a genetic abnormality was insensitive but unsuprising for a man of his age, they are basically complaining about Genetics embarrassing Uncle.

kupus

The Backwards Man wrote: »

There's plenty of people posting in this forum that would benefit greatly from a hard day's hashing, and they aren't all liberals either.

Well even the admins said somewhere that these little special snowflakes need to be catered to and if that's the way boards is going with its space safe stuff. Then these lil darlings need a kick up the hole. How do they even tie their shoelaces in the morning with out getting professional offended that the shoelaces are black and actually at the end of the privileged whitemans foot.

AnonoBoy

stoplooklisten wrote: »

I presume it is implied the Africans, homosexuals and feminists would "feel unsafe" and triggered becasue he said some stuff.

But they won't will they?

I can understand people not wanting a building named after someone whose views they don't agree with but the safe space thing is nonsense, they've just weakened their argument by bringing that in.

Fleawuss

stoplooklisten wrote: »

This scientist said somethings 10? years ago that some people didn't like. Was he proven wrong or right?

There's the rub. I don't think science wants to or can go where he went.....

stoplooklisten

AnonoBoy wrote: »

But they won't will they?

I can understand people not wanting a building named after someone whose views they don't agree with but the safe space thing is nonsense, they've just weakened their argument by bringing that in.

Why would they "feel unsafe", wasn't the actual guy in campus for years and noone was unsafe becasue of it.

silverharp

stoplooklisten wrote: »

I presume it is implied the Africans, homosexuals and feminists would "feel unsafe" and triggered becasue he said some stuff.

he has a point, when I lived in London every time I saw a street name like Cromwell I used to get palpitations and needed to go to the nearest safespace (an Irish pub) to get myself together again. :pac:

gctest50

http://i.imgur.com/gNVS5I7.jpg

Saipanne

One wonders what George Boole's view of women were, interpreted through modern Feminism.

Hande hoche!

stoplooklisten wrote: »

Why would they "feel unsafe", wasn't the actual guy in campus for years and noone was unsafe becasue of it.

There's nothing quite as terrifying as a man in his eighties.

stoplooklisten

Fleawuss wrote: »

There's the rub. I don't think science wants to or can go where he went.....

Some things he said from the journal article


In 2007, he told The Times he was “inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa (because) all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours – whereas all the testing says not really”.

In 1997, he said: “If you could find the gene that determines sexuality, and a woman decides she doesn’t want a homosexual child, well, let her.”

He has also been critical of feminism and said that “it would be great” if all girls were pretty.



Can you explain what is so offensive about each one?

Fleawuss

Oh and then there's triggered. Triggered. It used to be provoked. Or baited. Pavlov. There. I've said it. Was that a bell?

Fleawuss

Saipanne wrote: »

One wonders what George Boole's view of women were, interpreted through modern Feminism.

Women 1 Men 0

Jawgap

Colleges and universities are becoming creches - safe spaces, me hole!

They're supposed to be places of debate and controversy - not just dumbed down dormitories producing drones with cookie cutter 'degrees.'

AnonoBoy

stoplooklisten wrote: »

Why would they "feel unsafe", wasn't the actual guy in campus for years and noone was unsafe becasue of it.

That's my point too. Are we arguing? I can't tell.

GLaDOS

When it comes to naming an academic building I'd take more issue with him using Rosalind Franklin's work without crediting her.

Renegade Mechanic

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Ah! I just skimmed the article.

That's a silly thing to say really.

If they don't want the building named after him because he was a big mean racist misogynist or whatever then that's up to them to protest about. But it's nothing to do with safe spaces. Nobody will feel less safe because a building is named one thing rather than another will they?

I must warn in advance, it's the daily mail, but I give you:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3506491/Emory-president-Students-scared-Trump-2016-chalk-signs.html

Ye know not the importance of the space where nothing that might make you feel bad - especially not reality - can get to you.

No joke, someone sat me down and explained what a safe space was, and it's importance. It was more out of morbid curiosity and surprise that I actually paid attention for the minute or three that they explained it.

I wouldn't have lasted pissing time in college tbh.

FA Hayek

To be honest if we are going to down the road of moralising everything someone says in the past aside from their achievements then nothing will ever be named. What he said isn't even that bad. OK, he had a few strong opinions. He didn't kill anyone but he offended the wrong people so he's on the list and if your on the list then your never getting off it no matter if you cure cancer. Snow flake ideology trumps everything.

Butters1979

Does anyone know what specific studies he is referring to over the intelligence of Africans? I'd be interested to see what these were and how impartial they were.

Or am I opening a whole can of worms here?

P. Breathnach

ScienceNerd wrote: »

When it comes to naming an academic building I'd take more issue with him using Rosalind Franklin's work without crediting her.

Perhaps the building should be named after Franklin.

AnonoBoy

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

I must warn in advance, it's the daily mail, but I give you:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3506491/Emory-president-Students-scared-Trump-2016-chalk-signs.html

Oh for f*ck's sake. :rolleyes:

AnonoBoy

P. Breathnach wrote: »

Perhaps the building should be named after Franklin.

Just to be original they could try naming it Building McBuildingFace.