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Unwarranted Hostility From Female Colleague

  • 01-06-2016 5:23pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 387 ✭✭


    I work in a large organization with a number of branches which requires me to travel between each branch every day. I really enjoy my job which I am very competent and have received praise from my supervisors and have a very good relationship both professionally and personally with my peers.

    Except for one female supervisor who absolutely hates my guts.

    Whenever I am posted to her branch I am on the receiving end of coldness and hostility. I can understand a supervisor keeping subordinates at arms length and limiting communication to instructions but there is absolutely zero warmth a passive aggressive hostility and 2.5 years into my employment a hatred I believe. She does not respond to a friendly good morning or small talk as other supervisors do - the majority of whom are friendly warm and good humored.

    The hostility does not manifest itself in open abuse but does manifest itself in hyper pettines and loading me with tasks she apparently considers tedious and worthy of a dogsbody. I happily do whatever work I am given and cheerfully ask her once I have completed my assignments if there is anything else I can do which I am amused drives her crazy.

    She is obviously trying to provoke an outburst which I refuse to reward her with. However behind my cheerful front I wish her the worst. She is an absolutely horrible person. Probably the most excruciatingly person I have ever met.

    I would love to unload at her but I need and love this job. How better can I deal with the nausea of even having to look at her? I have no other worries except for this horrible you know what irritating me no end.

    Some kind and practical advice would be appreciated.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,539 ✭✭✭dobman88


    Sounds like you're handling it perfectly.

    Spend as little time as possible at her work place and do the jobs she asks. Head down, and gtf out. Well done on keeping a cool head.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 387 ✭✭rjpf1980


    dobman88 wrote: »
    Sounds like you're handling it perfectly.

    Spend as little time as possible at her work place and do the jobs she asks. Head down, and gtf out. Well done on keeping a cool head.

    I might ad that I socialize a lot and from what I have gathered I am convinced she is deeply unhappy in her life outside of work. She doesn't have a social media presence as far as I can see. When I take public transport home I see her on her own. She seems timid and insecure. However what pity I might have is evaporated due to her vindictiveness. I refuse to be risen but I would give anything to be able to verbally abuse her with no comebacks. I have only spoken to her when she gave me instructions. I feel like laughing into her face sometimes but I resist the temptation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,539 ✭✭✭dobman88


    rjpf1980 wrote: »
    I might ad that I socialize a lot and from what I have gathered I am convinced she is deeply unhappy in her life outside of work. She doesn't have a social media presence as far as I can see. When I take public transport home I see her on her own. She seems timid and insecure. However what pity I might have is evaporated due to her vindictiveness. I refuse to be risen but I would give anything to be able to verbally abuse her with no comebacks. I have only spoken to her when she gave me instructions. I feel like laughing into her face sometimes but I resist the temptation.

    Your social lives are of zero importance. If it helps you to deal with her sh!t thinking she's unhappy, so be it. But just keep doing what you're doing. If she is jealous of you she will want a reaction. Don't give it to her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,514 ✭✭✭bee06


    rjpf1980 wrote: »
    I might ad that I socialize a lot and from what I have gathered I am convinced she is deeply unhappy in her life outside of work. She doesn't have a social media presence as far as I can see. When I take public transport home I see her on her own. She seems timid and insecure. However what pity I might have is evaporated due to her vindictiveness. I refuse to be risen but I would give anything to be able to verbally abuse her with no comebacks. I have only spoken to her when she gave me instructions. I feel like laughing into her face sometimes but I resist the temptation.

    I'm not sure how a no "social media presence" and being alone on public transport equates to deeply unhappy?

    Does she treat every one like she treats you or is she singling you out?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    OP , you are doing the right thing. One thing would be if possible is to get her to email her instructions to you so that you have a paper trail of requests and jobs done and keep them just in case.

    Do you have a formal line manager that at least you can let off steam a bit with or do you have to deal with this group of supervisors?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 387 ✭✭rjpf1980


    silverharp wrote: »
    OP , you are doing the right thing. One thing would be if possible is to get her to email her instructions to you so that you have a paper trail of requests and jobs done and keep them just in case.

    Do you have a formal line manager that at least you can let off steam a bit with or do you have to deal with this group of supervisors?

    The supervisors are all cliquey and if I got her to email instructions she would abuse that too and she really would be the bane of my life. If I make waves I would only making things worse? Thanks for the advice all the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 387 ✭✭rjpf1980


    bee06 wrote: »
    I'm not sure how a no "social media presence" and being alone on public transport equates to deeply unhappy?

    Does she treat every one like she treats you or is she singling you out?

    Pretty sure just me. She's very pretty and younger than me. I'm a big guy into sport big time and extroverted. She probably finds me intimidating and I think she is used to having people crawl to her. For the most part her bitchiness is comical but occasionally I am taken back at how mind bogglingly vindictive she is. I've never encountered this kind of white hot hatred. I'm a bit freaked out and don't know what I did or said to warrant this crap. I like to laugh and joke and I like to go for pints from time to time with people at work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 387 ✭✭rjpf1980


    dobman88 wrote: »
    Your social lives are of zero importance. If it helps you to deal with her sh!t thinking she's unhappy, so be it. But just keep doing what you're doing. If she is jealous of you she will want a reaction. Don't give it to her.

    I won't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,514 ✭✭✭bee06


    rjpf1980 wrote: »
    Pretty sure just me. She's very pretty and younger than me. I'm a big guy into sport big time and extroverted. She probably finds me intimidating and I think she is used to having people crawl to her. For the most part her bitchiness is comical but occasionally I am taken back at how mind bogglingly vindictive she is. I've never encountered this kind of white hot hatred. I'm a bit freaked out and don't know what I did or said to warrant this crap. I like to laugh and joke and I like to go for pints from time to time with people at work.

    Can you give an example of her vindictiveness? I personally wouldn't consider giving you menial tasks and not saying good morning vindictive. You seem a bit hung up on the fact that she doesn't socialise as well. Great, you like to see your work colleagues socially but it's not a necessary part of a working life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 387 ✭✭rjpf1980


    bee06 wrote: »
    Can you give an example of her vindictiveness? I personally wouldn't consider giving you menial tasks and not saying good morning vindictive. You seem a bit hung up on the fact that she doesn't socialise as well. Great, you like to see your work colleagues socially but it's not a necessary part of a working life.

    Any time she talks to me it is with undisguised hatred. She glares at me. I look her right back in the eye. I don't flinch around her and she doesn't like it when I stay cheerful. She an insane bitch.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I know exactly how you feel. I work in an office with a woman who can't hide her utter contempt for me. I've no idea what I did to deserve the treatment from her but she has been subtly tormenting me for years. I'd rather not go into the details on the off-chance that someone from work reads this and identifies me or her. I've spoken to my manager about her and she has admitted she loathes me and lost all respect for me years ago. She has also promised to behave better. So she does - when he's around. When he's not, she's back to her bad old ways :(

    I really don't know what to say to you - I'm not sure why I'm answering this really. I went to counselling but it didn't help much. It might be better for you if it's something you're prepared to try. The counsellor also kept asking me why am I letting her under my skin and why am I giving her space in my head. I've no answer to either question. I wish I did. I'm obviously too sensitive for my own good and I wish I wasn't. All I can suggest to you is to limit the time you spend with her and to keep a paper trail of emails. I'm sorry you feel this way. Like you, all I want to do is go to work and do my job and get on with everyone and go home. I hate that this horrible person upsets me in my everyday life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,514 ✭✭✭bee06


    Well all you can do is continue to treat her professionally and not give her "ammunition" to use against you at some stage. Could you talk to your HR department?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,512 ✭✭✭baby and crumble


    I started off feeling quite empathetic towards you, OP, because dealing with a difficult boss/ colleague is tough.

    Your posts are getting really bitchy and vindictive themselves as they go on though. Get over it, maybe she doesn't like you. Not everyone has to. Not everyone likes their job. Maybe she's got crazy stuff happening in her personal life that means she's on edge in work. Maybe you're actually a terrible worker and that's why she's hard on you. We really only have your side of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,716 ✭✭✭pgj2015


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,512 ✭✭✭baby and crumble


    pgj2015 wrote: »
    . if she denies she is being hostile say look quit the **** mary, this crap stops now or you will regret it.

    Yeah, threatening a superior ALWAYS goes down well in work. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,716 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    I started off feeling quite empathetic towards you, OP, because dealing with a difficult boss/ colleague is tough.

    Your posts are getting really bitchy and vindictive themselves as they go on though. Get over it, maybe she doesn't like you. Not everyone has to. Not everyone likes their job. Maybe she's got crazy stuff happening in her personal life that means she's on edge in work. Maybe you're actually a terrible worker and that's why she's hard on you. We really only have your side of it.



    none of that is an excuse to be a bitch to a co worker, we all have problems, you leave them at home and get on with your work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,716 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    Yeah, threatening a superior ALWAYS goes down well in work. :rolleyes:

    it has every time i have seen it happen, which is a lot of times.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,087 ✭✭✭Pro Hoc Vice


    rjpf1980 wrote: »
    I work in a large organization with a number of branches which requires me to travel between each branch every day. I really enjoy my job which I am very competent and have received praise from my supervisors and have a very good relationship both professionally and personally with my peers.

    Except for one female supervisor who absolutely hates my guts.

    Whenever I am posted to her branch I am on the receiving end of coldness and hostility. I can understand a supervisor keeping subordinates at arms length and limiting communication to instructions but there is absolutely zero warmth a passive aggressive hostility and 2.5 years into my employment a hatred I believe. She does not respond to a friendly good morning or small talk as other supervisors do - the majority of whom are friendly warm and good humored.

    The hostility does not manifest itself in open abuse but does manifest itself in hyper pettines and loading me with tasks she apparently considers tedious and worthy of a dogsbody. I happily do whatever work I am given and cheerfully ask her once I have completed my assignments if there is anything else I can do which I am amused drives her crazy.

    She is obviously trying to provoke an outburst which I refuse to reward her with. However behind my cheerful front I wish her the worst. She is an absolutely horrible person. Probably the most excruciatingly person I have ever met.

    I would love to unload at her but I need and love this job. How better can I deal with the nausea of even having to look at her? I have no other worries except for this horrible you know what irritating me no end.

    Some kind and practical advice would be appreciated.

    Sometimes people just don't like another person, stay professional and after that forget about her. Accept she does not like you and after that it will be ok.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,512 ✭✭✭baby and crumble


    pgj2015 wrote: »
    none of that is an excuse to be a bitch to a co worker, we all have problems, you leave them at home and get on with your work.

    You can try, but I'd love to see someone whose kids are in hospital, whose Dad has cancer, whose husband has a drink problem "leave it all behind". It just doesn't work like that.

    And tbh if he's a terrible worker (not saying you are, OP, I'm just saying we've only heard your side of it) then that IS a reason to dislike someone and be hard on them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,509 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    bee06 wrote: »
    Well all you can do is continue to treat her professionally and not give her "ammunition" to use against you at some stage. Could you talk to your HR department?

    About what?
    She isn't on social media, takes public transport alone and glares at him - Might not be enough for them to do anything.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,716 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    You can try, but I'd love to see someone whose kids are in hospital, whose Dad has cancer, whose husband has a drink problem "leave it all behind". It just doesn't work like that.

    And tbh if he's a terrible worker (not saying you are, OP, I'm just saying we've only heard your side of it) then that IS a reason to dislike someone and be hard on them.



    its called being professional, also if someone is not good at their job, disliking them and being hard on them is a ridiculous way to resolve the problem, you either help them improve or let them go.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,087 ✭✭✭Pro Hoc Vice


    robbiezero wrote: »
    About what?
    She isn't on social media, takes public transport alone and glares at him - Might not be enough for them to do anything.

    She does sound like a bunny boiler.


  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,907 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    rjpf1980 wrote: »
    I like to laugh and joke and I like to go for pints from time to time with people at work.

    Good for you! This girl doesn't. Doesn't make you right or better than her. She doesn't like you, for whatever real or perceived reason. You might be great craic, a brilliant worker, super competent and confident but she might just think you're cocky and hasn't warmed to your charms as others have.

    So what!

    I'd stop being overly friendly and enthusiastic around her. You're doing it just to annoy her, you admitted you are amused by the affect your cheeriness has on her. So just leave it. At the start of your thread I was 100% on your side and agreed that the way you were conducting yourself was the perfect reaction. But the more you post, the less nice you sound. Concluding that she's deeply unhappy in her life because she sits on the bus alone???? Look around you someday. I'd say 95+% of people going home from work on the bus are alone. I know I was for my 10 years of bus commuting. Funnily enough I had a husband and a few friends!

    Just leave her alone. She doesn't like you. You don't like her. Keep your interactions with her to strictly work issues without over the top friendliness just to get a rise out of her. We all encounter people we don't like in life. Best thing to do is have as little to do with them as possible. (Like she seems to be trying to do with you) Just do your job in that branch and get out. Be buddy buddy with the ones who are interested in you. Leave her be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    For the life of me I can't see what you're complaining about OP. If the tasks she gives you are part of your job description then she's dead right to give them to you and if they're not then pointing that out calmly and professionally is all it should take, then elevating the problem to management if that doesn't work.

    Your description of your reactions to her suggest that you behave like that not because you're being calm and rational, but rather because you imagine she has some malice and you are reacting like that out of aggression, not professionalism.

    She is a manager who has been promoted to a level of responsibility which suggests that she has abilities and is an asset to the company and she assigns you appropriate tasks when you're there. You, on the other hand, appear to be fixated on a superior to the point where you've attempted to invade her privacy by finding her social media presence and have a problem doing your job on the days when she's responsible for overseeing it. I don't think she's the problem here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,394 ✭✭✭ManOfMystery


    OP, I work in a very large PLC with many offices in different countries and deal with hundreds of different staff weekly. When I first started out many moons ago, I was a bit green and more of a people-pleaser than I am now; I found it difficult when someone wasn't friendly or didn't take to me, and then made more of a concerted effort to win them over. Didn't 'enjoy' hostility or any kind of negative undertones (who does???) in the workplace and if there was any, I'd find myself dwelling on it long into the evening when I should have been relaxing and not thinking about work.

    With the benefit of age and slightly more wisdom - though still not much - I've learnt that not everyone in the workplace is going to be your friend. In fact, if you're getting on with pretty much everyone apart from this one individual, you're doing pretty well. You can choose your friends in your social circle, but you can't really choose who you work with, and sometimes we just have to accept that there are going to be personality clashes and hostility with certain people.

    Don't be over-enthusiastic (that can be annoying) and don't be under-enthusiastic either - just do what's asked, and meet those requirements. That's all that is needed of you. There's a few people I deal with on a daily basis who I have little time for (and vice-versa) but we keep it professional, do what's required for work, and leave it at that. I certainly don't think about them after 5pm and my suggestion to you is the same. Keep doing what you're doing, let her behave how she wants, and then put her out of your mind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,514 ✭✭✭bee06


    robbiezero wrote: »
    About what?
    She isn't on social media, takes public transport alone and glares at him - Might not be enough for them to do anything.

    OP stated she speaks to him with undisguised hatred and "glares" at him, gives him menial work and treats him like a dogsbody. If he has such a problem with her he should discuss the issue with HR.

    To be honest, I think it's more of a personality clash and the OP can't accept that not everyone in the world likes him but if he thinks it's more than that then he should try and resolve it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,580 ✭✭✭✭Riesen_Meal


    Just a personality clash OP, you can't expect to get on with everyone in a working environment, you don't like her, she doesn't like you, just keep your lip buttoned up and try to get on with it...

    Sure the woman who works in my local chipper seems to hate me with every fibre of her being - she gives me the nastiest, evil stares and is so cold to me for no reason at all, yet she loves my partner and is most pleasant to her, I thought she just seemed to hate men but nope, she just seems to hate me... :D

    I do what you seem to be doing with this woman in work - kill her with kindness... ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,055 ✭✭✭Emme


    rjpf1980 wrote: »
    Pretty sure just me. She's very pretty and younger than me. I'm a big guy into sport big time and extroverted. She probably finds me intimidating and I think she is used to having people crawl to her. For the most part her bitchiness is comical but occasionally I am taken back at how mind bogglingly vindictive she is. I've never encountered this kind of white hot hatred. I'm a bit freaked out and don't know what I did or said to warrant this crap. I like to laugh and joke and I like to go for pints from time to time with people at work.

    I don't see the significance of her age and her looks and your hobbies and personality unless you have a secret crush on her which is clearly unreciprocated.

    Maybe she isn't on social media because somebody stalked her in the past and this could account for her guarded attitude. Travelling alone on public transport is no big deal. However her social media and means of getting to work are of no importance as you only interact with her on a professional level.

    Not everybody you work with is going to like you. Just do your job and don't think about her outside of your professional interactions with you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,951 ✭✭✭SB_Part2


    I think you fancy her. You've talked about her looks and how great your social life is and neither have anything to do with her being cold towards you in work.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,403 ✭✭✭daisybelle2008


    rjpf1980 wrote: »

    Pretty sure just me. She's very pretty and younger than me. I'm a big guy into sport big time and extroverted. She probably finds me intimidating and I think she is used to having people crawl to her.

    OK, this is an interesting perspective. Really? You think she is intimidated by your physique and personality and annoyed you are not crawling all over her? Do you think she secretly fancies you and is raging you are not making yourself available to her? Maybe you are on to something aside from the glaring a lot of your posts seems to be about yer social status and here her looks. Maybe there is a lot of sexual tension on both sides. It kind of has a rom-com fee to it, where the couple start out disliking each other and then end up together!
    Seriously though, you can’t really seem to articulate the hostility beyond ‘glaring’ and workload. What feedback has she given on you to your Manager? You could request feedback; you might find she is perfectly happy with your work. Go to your manager and say that you think ‘X’ may not be happy with your work and you want to address it constructively, so can you get an objective feedback assessment, these are constructive appraisals of your working relationships. Depending on the feedback you put a plan in place to improve relationship. You could do a 360 type one, which you both give feedback. It has to be constructive and work related. So you can’t complain that she is not on Facebook and is probably intimidated by your sporty extrovert physique. You could say you feel she overloads you with work but be prepared to quantify that in a reasonable way.
    So stop making it so personal, no need to complain to HR or 'call her out'. If you do want to have a word make it very constructive and say you have a feeling it could be improved and has she any suggestions. Definitely do not do what the poster said about threatening her to be nice ‘or she will regret it’. That’s insane and creates a lot of unnecessary trouble. As nobody else seems to have a problem with her you are not going to get a lot of sympathy from anyone for threatening her. Seriously if HR have a good record for her and with your articulation of the problem, you will find you are suddenly seen as the bully if you do that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    If she overloads you with work then how are you able to go back and ask her for more? It really sounds like the issue is with you. One mans glare is another mans look. You seem annoyed that she's aloof. Why?


  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,907 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    I've just read back your posts and they are very subjective. You feel she glares at you. You believe she speaks with undisguised hatred. She's vindictive (although zero examples of how she's vindictive) she's younger, small and very pretty and you think she's "probably" intimidated by your larger, stronger, athletic physique. These are all things coming from your own interpretation. Are younger smaller pretty girls usually intimidated by you? Is that why you believe she is? I know if I felt intimidated by someone I would stay completely out of their way! Not glare at them and speak with undisguised hatred to them! She "probably" expects people to crawl to her? Do the other people you work with crawl to her? Could you being uber nice, and helpful and going back looking for more work be interpreted as YOU crawling to her? But maybe you're not getting the reaction from her that you expect from younger, smaller, very pretty girls? The things you are saying about her, and about how you'd like to react to her, and how you only wish her bad are quite nasty. Ironically, you are the one coming across as hostile and vindictive. You haven't given any examples of her being hostile, or vindictive in work, just that's she's not fawning over you and not joining in on the laughs you'd like to have. But you have plenty to say about your perception of her private life, and how you'd like to turn on her and see her reaction.

    I think the issue is more you than her. You're expecting a specific reaction from her to you, and she's not playing ball... Therefore she's "deeply unhappy, vindictive".... Etc etc etc. You might get plenty of female attention. You might have loads of craic and banter with other females you work with, they may fancy you, they may just think you're a bit of craic. This girl thinks neither. Stop obsessing over her and analysing her every move. Because I can guarantee you one thing, you are not taking up as much of her thoughts, as she is yours!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,555 ✭✭✭Augme


    You sound a bit unhealthy obsessed with her tbh OP.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭strandroad


    You don't make a good argument here OP, she doesn't seem out of line apart from that she works you reasonably hard and she's not willing to be your friend.

    What you describe is like when a labrador puppy tries to get a cat to play with him... she's a cat and she doesn't care for you, find other puppies to play with!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,198 ✭✭✭PressRun


    What does her being pretty and smaller than you have to do with anything? And why is you being sporty and extroverted relevant? You sound fairly pleased with yourself, OP, and it sounds like you're used to/expect a certain reaction from other people (perhaps specifically women?) and she's not giving it to you, and therefore she becomes "vindictive" and a "bitch". Tbh, I think I've met people like you before - a certain hostility emerges when they realise not everyone thinks they're such craic. Your issues with her sound very personal and it sounds like you're the one with the problem.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,043 ✭✭✭Story Bud?


    You seem hung up on the fact that she's a woman and younger than you and yet in a higher position. (why mention twice that she's female? Does it matter?)

    She's pretty and "intimidated" by you? Why? Because you're a man? You think women are that easily intimidated? She's your boss remember. I think you're intimidated by her.

    You say that you don't give her the satisfaction of letting her know you hate her by being cheerful. If anything she's probably picking up on your passive aggressiveness and knows that you don't like her.

    Get over her and move on. You'll be much happier in your job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 387 ✭✭rjpf1980


    I started off feeling quite empathetic towards you, OP, because dealing with a difficult boss/ colleague is tough.

    Your posts are getting really bitchy and vindictive themselves as they go on though. Get over it, maybe she doesn't like you. Not everyone has to. Not everyone likes their job. Maybe she's got crazy stuff happening in her personal life that means she's on edge in work. Maybe you're actually a terrible worker and that's why she's hard on you. We really only have your side of it.

    I have never spoken to this <snip - no need for that OP> on any level except when she gives me orders. I follow my orders and do my job. I have done absolutely nothing whatsoever to be on the receiving end of this crap. I want to tell her to <snip> off. She knows it and gets off on it. Why she is behaving this way is her fault not mine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 387 ✭✭rjpf1980


    Story Bud? wrote: »
    You seem hung up on the fact that she's a woman and younger than you and yet in a higher position. (why mention twice that she's female? Does it matter?)

    She's pretty and "intimidated" by you? Why? Because you're a man? You think women are that easily intimidated? She's your boss remember. I think you're intimidated by her.

    You say that you don't give her the satisfaction of letting her know you hate her by being cheerful. If anything she's probably picking up on your passive aggressiveness and knows that you don't like her.

    Get over her and move on. You'll be much happier in your job.

    I don't know why she is behaving the way she is having never interacted to her on any other level beyond when she gives orders. I am only guessing. I don't know. At this stage she's just an enemy and I hate her right back. I did nothing to her and I do not deserve to be bullied like this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,087 ✭✭✭Pro Hoc Vice


    rjpf1980 wrote: »
    I have never spoken to this bitch on any level except when she gives me orders. I follow my orders and do my job. I have done absolutely nothing whatsoever to be on the receiving end of this crap. I want to tell her to f*ck off. She knows it and gets off on it. Why she is behaving this way is her fault not mine.

    You have left the mask slip. You are coming across as a control freak, who just can't get that someone thinks your a knobjockey, it matters not if you are or not she has every right to dislike and even hate you, if you think it has gone in to the bullying sphere then make a complaint, otherwise do your job and ignore her.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,087 ✭✭✭Pro Hoc Vice


    rjpf1980 wrote: »
    I don't know why she is behaving the way she is having never interacted to her on any other level beyond when she gives orders. I am only guessing. I don't know. At this stage she's just an enemy and I hate her right back. I did nothing to her and I do not deserve to be bullied like this.

    A funny thing I have learned in life is the person who claims they are being bullied is often the bully.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 387 ✭✭rjpf1980


    bee06 wrote: »
    OP stated she speaks to him with undisguised hatred and "glares" at him, gives him menial work and treats him like a dogsbody. If he has such a problem with her he should discuss the issue with HR.

    To be honest, I think it's more of a personality clash and the OP can't accept that not everyone in the world likes him but if he thinks it's more than that then he should try and resolve it.

    I don't want her to like me and I don't want everyone to like me. So your dead wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 387 ✭✭rjpf1980


    A funny thing I have learned in life is the person who claims they are being bullied is often the bully.

    In what way is following orders and doing my job well but nonetheless being on the receiving end of undiguised hatred and hostility bulling on my part? I did nothing to this woman. I have never challenged her and don't want to. I don't know her and I don't want to now. I want to do my work and leave it at that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,087 ✭✭✭Pro Hoc Vice


    rjpf1980 wrote: »
    I don't want her to like me and I don't want everyone to like me. So your dead wrong.

    It's funny a number of people on this forum who don't know her, and I accept based only on your post all think the same thing. Now either all of us is smoking crack or we all misunderstand your posts or just maybe we are right and for a lot less than a shrink you got some good insight.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,087 ✭✭✭Pro Hoc Vice


    rjpf1980 wrote: »
    In what way is following orders and doing my job well but nonetheless being on the receiving end of undiguised hatred and hostility bulling on my part? I did nothing to this woman. I have never challenged her and don't want to. I don't know her and I don't want to now. I want to do my work and leave it at that.

    Then invoke the bullying and harassment procedure and ignore her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,061 ✭✭✭leggo


    +1 for the fancying her theory.

    Why are you observing her being 'very pretty'? Why are you checking if she's on social media or not? Some of the stuff you've said doesn't add up. Why did you make a list of how big and sporty and extroverted you were? What does that have to do with workplace bullying? Sounds like you're trying to sell yourself. No offence, but you sound a bit like a guy getting angry in a club when a girl doesn't pay them any mind. And, yes, you seem obsessed here.

    Have you considered the fact that you're frustrated because she's just not that into you? Maybe she even thinks you're creepy and has picked up on your obsession with her and you're lashing out at that. There's nothing worse than the colleague who's just using the job to try build their social and sex life. It's fair enough being mates with people, but if it comes at the expense of doing your job or if you get hung up on little things, it grates on everyone. Especially people who are accountable for all of the work being done at the end of the day.

    Just do your job. You're there to pay bills, that's it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,711 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    "The hostility does not manifest itself in open abuse".

    Then where does the bullying come in exactly?! I'm baffled. She doesn't bad mouth you to others, she doesn't insult you, she gives you work you don't like but it is well within your remit. There is no case here. Do your job.

    Don't react to this otherwise you will be the one accused of bullying. I am also bothered by the way you think that others should fit into your cookie cutter ideal of what a workplace should be. Some people don't like small talk and go to work to get the head down not to have wee chats at the water cooler and slap each other on the back for all you know all that could be fake anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭face1990


    rjpf1980 wrote: »
    I have done absolutely nothing whatsoever to be on the receiving end of this crap... Why she is behaving this way is her fault not mine.
    rjpf1980 wrote: »
    I don't know why she is behaving the way she is
    rjpf1980 wrote: »
    nonetheless being on the receiving end of undiguised hatred and hostility

    OP, you still haven't given any concrete examples.

    So far we've established you don't like the way she looks at you, and that she gives you jobs you consider menial.
    Both of those are normal for any job, and fall into the 'tough shít' catagory of everyday life problems.

    Is there anything else?
    Any objective hostility?
    (Who she rides the bus with doesn't count)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,043 ✭✭✭Story Bud?


    You only talk to her when she gives you orders.

    So when is this bullying happening?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,074 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    rjpf1980 wrote: »
    I work in a large organization with a number of branches which requires me to travel between each branch every day.

    All branches reasonably close together then. If you drive, then just enjoy the driving, use it to unwind. At red lights, engage neutral and put the handbrake on; put your hands in your lap amd feel the tension leaving your body. When the light goes green, drive away. Rinse and repeat.

    Look up a Little Village song called "Don't Think About Her When You're Trying to Drive". The whole album is great (imo).

    Just do your own rounds. Don't go out of bounds. On payday, cash your cheque. Don't be a train wreck.


    tl/dr: Don't think about her when you're trying to drive, because she's not thinking about you when she's on the bus.

    Not your ornery onager



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,951 ✭✭✭SB_Part2


    rjpf1980 wrote: »
    I have never spoken to this bitch on any level except when she gives me orders. I follow my orders and do my job. I have done absolutely nothing whatsoever to be on the receiving end of this crap. I want to tell her to f*ck off. She knows it and gets off on it. Why she is behaving this way is her fault not mine.

    If your attitude here reflects what your attitude is like in work then it's pretty obvious why she doesn't like you.

    She gets off on it? Please. Cop onto yourself now.


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