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France on Strike

  • 26-05-2016 1:49pm
    #1
    drdeadlift
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    I'm just looking at how the French go about striking.Why are our strikes always on a Saturday?

    Nice to see a nation willing to fight for what it wants.


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  • #2
    whiskeyman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    drdeadlift wrote: »
    Nice to see a nation willing to fight for what it wants.

    If only it did that during WW2...


  • #3
    Fratton Fred
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    It must be the summer.

    When do the air traffic controllers have their strike?


  • #4
    AnonoBoy
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    Our strikes aren't always on a Saturday.


  • #5
    AnonoBoy
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    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    It must be the summer.

    When do the air traffic controllers have their strike?

    They're the ones that started this one I think.


  • #6
    IvyTheTerrible
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    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    It must be the summer.

    When do the air traffic controllers have their strike?
    No, it's because the government are trying to introduce a new labour law, which almost everybody is against (the workers think it's too harsh, and the business owners think it's not going far enough).
    The government are trying to stifle debate on it and people are getting pissed about it.


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  • #7
    IvyTheTerrible
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    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    They're the ones that started this one I think.
    No, they aren't. Lots of different people are on strikes for the same reason. Students, refinery workers, air traffic controllers, transport workers, public service workers etc etc etc.


  • #8
    BoJack Horseman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,248 ✭✭✭✭BoJack Horseman


    IvyTheTerrible wrote: »
    No.

    the Air traffic control folk aren't striking?

    is that a first?


  • #9
    IvyTheTerrible
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,949 ✭✭✭✭IvyTheTerrible


    BoJack Horseman wrote: »
    the Air traffic control folk aren't striking?

    is that a first?
    They ARE striking, but they are not the ones that started this.


  • #10
    BoJack Horseman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,248 ✭✭✭✭BoJack Horseman


    IvyTheTerrible wrote: »
    They ARE striking,

    Oh thank god!

    It's important in a changing world that some things remain constant.

    43 strikes in the last 7 years.
    This consistency is needed.... may they continue to hold the sky's of Europe hostage to their every whim!


  • #11
    Stigura
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,576 ✭✭✭Stigura


    Great little strikers, the French. When they strike, ye fcuking well know about it! Schit grinds to a standstill and trucks block everything up. Got to admire a French strike, to be honest :)


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  • #12
    Alf Stewart.
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    Stigura wrote: »
    Great little strikers, the French. When they strike, ye fcuking well know about it! Schit grinds to a standstill and trucks block everything up. Got to admire a French strike, to be honest :)

    Except for that one against the Irish in 2009, when the cheating bastards handed the ball beforehand.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLUxMRYJAso


  • #13
    AnonoBoy
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    IvyTheTerrible wrote: »
    No, they aren't.

    According to news reports this morning they started and were joined by the others.

    But it hardly matters.


  • #14
    Permabear
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  • #15
    Red Kev
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    whiskeyman wrote: »
    If only it did that during WW2...

    They did. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Resistance

    The French suffered terribly during the war in reprisal attacks from the Germans, thanks to those who collaborated with the Nazis. Sadly those collaborators exist in every country.


  • #16
    The Backwards Man
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    You know what they call a Big Mac in France?

    Merde


  • #17
    SEPT 23 1989
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    the gasoline doesn't last very long


  • #18
    IvyTheTerrible
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    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    According to news reports this morning they started and were joined by the others.

    But it hardly matters.

    Ah yes and we all know that news reports are true all the time. These strikes have been going on months and not started by air traffic controllers.


  • #19
    harry Bailey esq
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,814 ✭✭✭harry Bailey esq


    An industrial dispute in France of all places :confused: Bleedin France? Well... I've heard It all now, I don't know what to believe anymore :o


  • #20
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    IvyTheTerrible wrote: »
    Ah yes and we all know that news reports are true all the time. These strikes have been going on months and not started by air traffic controllers.

    But was this one started by them?

    You seem to be personally invested in this. Are you or your spouse a French air traffic controller or something?


  • #21
    RobertKK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,761 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    The French are always striking, it's their culture.


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  • #22
    AnonoBoy
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    RobertKK wrote: »
    The French are always striking, it's their culture.

    I know a French woman who's very striking. It's her genes.


  • #23
    IvyTheTerrible
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,949 ✭✭✭✭IvyTheTerrible


    No but I live here and I find reporting in Ireland of events in France not terribly accurate.


  • #24
    Eugene Norman
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    whiskeyman wrote: »
    If only it did that during WW2...

    Victors control history. Or in English speaking countries. Anglo Saxons control history.

    The French did fight in WWII. They lost. It was the British who retreated.


  • #25
    Eugene Norman
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    Permabear wrote: »
    This post had been deleted.

    Up to 40% in some suburbs is totally disingenuous posting. Because every country probably has areas with 40% unemployment, even at times of full employment.


  • #26
    KingBrian2
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    IvyTheTerrible wrote: »
    No but I live here and I find reporting in Ireland of events in France not terribly accurate.

    We have France24 on TG4 most nights. We get a front view seat into France & the Continent. It's the fact that everyday Dubliners are not going by Paris or Cherbourg timetable.


  • #27
    Permabear
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    This post has been deleted.


  • #28
    IvyTheTerrible
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    In fairness PB that was a completely separate issue, it was a reaction from youths in the banlieus to their perceived treatment by the authorities. The strikes now are not happening in the banlieus and have a different support base.


  • #29
    Eugene Norman
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    Permabear wrote: »
    This post had been deleted.

    Going back to 2005 is disenguous as well. In 2011 free market London had riots.

    The banlieus in France have social problems. So have Detroit suburbs. So has London.


  • #30
    Into The Blue
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    IvyTheTerrible wrote: »
    No but I live here and I find reporting in Ireland of events in France not terribly accurate.

    Is there fuel in the pumps? Heading over for two weeks.. don't want to be walking week 2..


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  • #31
    IvyTheTerrible
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    They said on the national news this evening that 1/3 of stations are out of petrol or have shortages so it's no so bad yet.


  • #32
    Permabear
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    This post has been deleted.


  • #33
    KingBrian2
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    Happening right when the Euro's are about to commence talk about bad timing.:mad:


  • #34
    IvyTheTerrible
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    That's what the government is saying the reforms will do but I have my doubts. They want to penalise business owners for employing people on temporary contracts to encourage them to take people on on permanent contracts. But I doubt that will encourage extra employment.


  • #35
    Permabear
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    This post has been deleted.


  • #36
    scopper
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    Ah yes, they need to stop striking and accept all the things we find make us miserable. Only then will they be considered as mature, level-headed and easily-le...I mean, level-headed, as us.


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  • #37
    Harry Palmr
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    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    Happening right when the Euro's are about to commence talk about bad timing.:mad:

    The French have realised the best way to stop ISIS is to deny them fuel for getting about.


  • #38
    Capt'n Midnight
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    BoJack Horseman wrote: »
    Oh thank god!

    It's important in a changing world that some things remain constant.

    43 strikes in the last 7 years.
    This consistency is needed.... may they continue to hold the sky's of Europe hostage to their every whim!
    Wait till they hear what the Luas Drivers are on.


  • #39
    Permabear
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    This post has been deleted.


  • #40
    Superhorse
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    whiskeyman wrote: »
    If only it did that during WW2...

    Nice stereotyping.


  • #41
    PowerToWait
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    Superhorse wrote: »
    Nice stereotyping.


    A hackneyed disregard for the facts, not to mention overlooking Ireland's less than glorious role in the same conflict.

    But shur it's funny.


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  • #42
    CelticRambler
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    Permabear wrote: »
    This post had been deleted.

    There is also the problem that it costs a French employer more to employ someone than any other employer in Europe. Not only is the French minimum wage the highest, but employers pay hugely for the privilege of having someone work for them (especially when they break through the 5 workers or more barrier, and even worse when they hit 50).

    This means that French companies trying to compete internationally are inherently at a disadvantage before they've produced anything. If they've got to shoulder that heavy wage burden, the only way they can manage it is by employing people on short-term contracts.

    FWIW, one of the more contentious issues in this dispute was limiting an employer's liability for "compensation" when they'd negotiated and agreed terms for letting someone go. As things stand, you can take your employer to (the equivalent of) the EAT after you've received your generous golden handshake and claim that you weren't paid enough.

    So businesses are permanently run short-staffed, customers are given the brush-off, there's no incentive for anyone to create "added value", competition is a dirty word, and the results are clear to see: France is an economic basket case, and savvy non-French Europeans are picking over the bones of the mangy coq.

    I'm not complaining too much, because I'm one of them. :cool:


  • #43
    Permabear
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    This post has been deleted.


  • #44
    The Rape of Lucretia
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    Superhorse wrote: »
    Nice stereotyping.

    It is. And stereotyping is funny. Kudos whiskeyman.


    France is a country unwilling to accept reality. A bit like some of Britain still mourning the Empire and no longer being a world power, France is still mourning les trente glorieuses. It is living beyond its means, has become fat and lazy, and has an entitlement mentality pervading it like no other nation.
    France is headed for a big big crash one day, that will dwarf the ones by the likes of Ireland and Greece.


  • #45
    Filmer Paradise
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    Permabear wrote: »
    This post had been deleted.

    There is something just so wrong about this post.

    The effects of the recession are still being felt, even by those who never lost their jobs.


  • #46
    XR3i
    Site Banned Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭XR3i


    i blame terry henry


  • #47
    Your Face
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    Someone mentioned the war...


  • #48
    Snickers Man
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    Alf Stewart. wrote: »
    Except for that one against the Irish in 2009, when the cheating bastards handed the ball beforehand.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLUxMRYJAso

    Well if you're going to bring that old chestnut up we may as well go the whole hog :)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTHCAtI_Mf8


  • #49
    Your Face
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    Snickers Man wrote: »
    Well if you're going to bring that old chestnut up we may as well go the whole hog :)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTHCAtI_Mf8

    Roy kind of went on strike as-well.


  • #50
    The Sidewards Man
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    They would want to give up the late night riding, no wonder they can't go to work.


  • #51
    enda1
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    Why do the Irish turn into mini British parrots whenever France is brought up? Can't we see it for the wonderful country full of history, culture, magnificent beauty and pride that it really is? We're not the ones with the age old rivalry with France, they are historical and contemporary allies who share a similar relaxed attitude, beautiful country and joie de vivre!

    Vive l'Irlande!
    Vive la France!


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