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The future of James Bond

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  • Registered Users Posts: 764 ✭✭✭Big Gerry



    I wish we could go back to the old days of them releasing a new bond film every 2 years.

    Bond films shouldn't be hard to make they just have to stick to the formula that has worked for the last 60 years.



  • Registered Users Posts: 744 ✭✭✭lumphammer2


    I have never tried to frame Craig's Bond as being still alive ... but did suggest anything is possible in a series like this when it comes to character survival ... one thing is for sure is Craig himself won't be back in the role whatever they decide to do with the character ...

    Craig wanted Bond to die I know ... Danny Boyle then would not direct because of this or something is another rumour ... I get the impression that Bond will just come back with no mention about anything gone before ... ultimately it is up to the fans to decide how Bond and all the other characters in the Craig Bond world fared after ... Ralph Fiennes and others will return but with no link to Craig similar to Judi Dench going from Brosnan to Craig era ...



  • Registered Users Posts: 744 ✭✭✭lumphammer2


    I believe in the early days it was intended that Bond films followed closely on what went before ... over Christmas I've been watching them to refresh ... Dr No gets a mention in From Russia With Love ... SPECTRE are the link in almost all them early Connery and Lazenby films ... Tracy gets mentioned in 3 Moore films and in Dalton's 2nd film ... so the link was there ...

    Each Bond film made from Live and Let Die until Die another Day could apart from some minor issues be watched in any order ... no need to know what went before ... Because of the Tracy references and a couple more things the Connery/Lazenby/Moore/Dalton films were intended to be the same character ... no mention is made of Bond's age or the year the film was set (apart from 1969 being noted as the year Tracy died in For Your Eyes Only) ... so they could all have taken place during the relatively short timespan ...

    Brosnan's films were certainly a soft reboot ... link to or not to the former films was neither confirmed or denied other than a brief mention of a predecessor to Judi Dench's M ...

    Craig's Bond was definitely different to the one from before him ... that is made very obvious ... I think the next Bond likewise will be an obvious reboot .. but not an origin story ... cannot see them going down repeating Casino Royale again ... it will have an established Bond akin to how he is introduced in Dr No ...



  • Registered Users Posts: 744 ✭✭✭lumphammer2


    +1 ... in general I enjoy Bond movies ... I know most are far fetched and I know the quality varies but they are as a whole entertaining ... There was a 6 year gap between the last 2 ... looking like the same between the last one and the next one ... we do need to get back to a film every 2 years ... that was not done since 2006/2008 IIRC ... Brosnan did 1 every 2 years and the original 1962-89 run had ones either every year or 2 years mostly with one 3 year gap ...



  • Registered Users Posts: 764 ✭✭✭Big Gerry



    I never got why they dropped Brosnan ? He deserved at least one more bond film before leaving the role.

    Die another day was a **** film but it made tons of money.

    You would think the producers would prefer a "bad" bond film that makes money over "good" bond films like license to kill or on her majesty's secret service that didn't make much money at the box office.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    Your final point is kinda ruined by the fact that Craig's Bond films are generally regarded as good and they made good at the box office.



  • Registered Users Posts: 764 ✭✭✭Big Gerry



    To this day I find it hard to think of Craig as "Bond".

    I wasn't a big fan of Brosnan but I would choose him any day over Craig.

    You can put just about any actor in the Bond role and the films will make buckets of money.

    The lead actor is almost irrelevant in terms of box office.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,311 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    Maybe Brosnan wanted more than a 1 film deal?

    Perhaps the producers were conscious that laziness/inertia had led them to keep Connery and Moore for one film too many, and decided they might as well grasp the nettle now rather than have to do it in 3 years regardless.

    I don't know whether the idea of the 'reboot/origin story' was there before Craig was cast. But if the 'idea' was first then clearly they needed a new lead.



  • Registered Users Posts: 764 ✭✭✭Big Gerry



    I think Brosnan was only ever signed up for 3 Bond films then after that he had to negotiate each film on its own.

    He didn't get much money for Goldeneye but by the time Die Another Day came along he was on A-List money.

    Back in the early 2000s I thought Brosnan would do as many bond films as Moore and maybe step down from the role when he was about 60.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,769 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Probably the 'bad guy' is just as important as Mr Bond. The likes of Goldfinger or Blofeld should be selected carefully. The usual threating the world with nuclear destruction by a paranoid madman with access to such weapons may not be enough?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 85,285 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Aaron Taylor-Johnson has reportedly met with producers



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,769 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Whoever they pick this must be an excellent theme music for a bond film?




  • Registered Users Posts: 219 ✭✭Muller1991




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,348 ✭✭✭nigeldaniel


    a bond song... well, Road rage springs to mind.

    You could be taking it easy on yourself

    You should be making it easy on yourself,

    'cause you and I know,

    It's all over the front page, you give me road rage,

    Racing through the best days,

    It's up to you boy you're driving me crazy,

    Thinking you may be losing your mind.

    Dan.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I think the Broccolis aren't interested in making more Bond movies and are going to sell their share of the business to Amazon



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,758 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    It's amazing how a $25m payday can change one's mind about a role.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Dammmn, she was a fine looking thing in her day.



  • Registered Users Posts: 60,348 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Bookies have slashed the odds on Jodie Cormer being named the next Bond over the last week.



  • Registered Users Posts: 219 ✭✭Muller1991




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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 35,941 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    I'd pay no attention to bookies; I distinctly remember, way back when Pierce Brosnan stood down, the bookies odds on Colin Salmon were slashed; all leading to rampant speculation about him taking over the role.

    I can't imagine it'd take much money going on a particular actor to have the odds drop; a few "joke" bets on Comer, or even a few deliberate ones to drum up some press, and a bookie would have to adjust the odds from 5000/1 to ... well, whatever they sit at now. From what I remember working in IT at one of the major bookies, they will take a bet on anything and if they can't reasonably figure the odds will just set it way high.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,212 ✭✭✭Decuc500


    I mean I like Jodie Comer as much as the next person but I think gender-swapping James Bond will result in a huge lack of interest in a new film.

    Online calls for this type of progressive casting equals real life apathy.

    Might as well release it straight to Netflix.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,226 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    Pretty sure Broccoli was previously quoted as saying the character is 'definitely male'.

    Is the outrage machine bored this week?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 35,941 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    More like Bond casting has gone very quiet in the last few months, so someone's trying to drum up some publicity and relevance - and yeah, maybe a little fist shaking from those easily triggered.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    I agree. It'd be better to keep James Bond as is and maybe make a spinoff movie with a female lead. Ana de Armas comes to mind when I think about possible spinoff movies as she was very good in No Time To Die, and I think there's definitely potential in a movie with her as the star.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,311 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    Jodie Comer is 100/1 so the poster is either making stuff up or, at best, has fallen for someone else making stuff up.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    I wouldn't want female Bond, the character is male and that is a key part to the character unlike say his race which is irrelevant.



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,848 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Mission Impossible has this genre wrapped up? ,cant imagine getting off the sofa to see a Bond film

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,781 ✭✭✭silliussoddius




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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,053 ✭✭✭Sexual Chocolate


    Not really. Ian Fleming created Bond as a British white man, simple as. I can't under understand some peoples desires to have actors such as Idris Elba or Rege-Jean Page  to portray Bond so as to appease those who can't accept Bonds race and skin colour in today's world.



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