How to get a council house C4

allibastor

Watching this UK based program. IT is actually mad.
Like people want a free house, Many just expect it.

benjamin d

Popcorn time

0byme75341jo28

Love shows like that. My favourite is "Black disabled muslim thieving gypsies on benefits"

groucho marx

Wind it up and let it go...

allibastor

I just think some is mad, people just expect to be sorted. Like in rent arrears and then just expect to be sorted.
Other mad bit is amount of non British people working in the council.

deseil

allibastor wrote: »

I just think some is mad, people just expect to be sorted. Like in rent arrears and then just expect to be sorted.
Other mad bit is amount of non British people working in the council.

They all sound British in fairness,they could be 2nd third generation that's what happens when you colonise half the world!

allibastor

allibastor wrote: »

I just think some is mad, people just expect to be sorted. Like in rent arrears and then just expect to be sorted.
Other mad bit is amount of non British people working in the council.

Do they actually say what country the person came from...or are you just making an assumption?

allibastor

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Do they actually say what country the person came from...or are you just making an assumption?

Of which??

This episode is actually titled immigrants.

But Many of the workers would strongly seem to not be nationals either, more brought up here or working here.

allibastor

allibastor wrote: »

Of which??

This episode is actually titled immigrants.

But Many of the workers would strongly seem to not be nationals either, more brought up here or working here.

Erm, you made the point about non British in the context of council workers.

So I was asking, do they actually give the nationality of council workers or are you just working off an assumption.

mansize

Amira Famous Lacrosse wrote: »

Love shows like that. My favourite is "Black disabled muslim thieving gypsies on benefits"

Did you catch the follow-up?

"Black disabled muslim thieving gypsies on benefits wants a sex change on the NHS"

AnonoBoy

If they've got a load of C4 in their council house they're probably terrorists.

Harry Palmr

I don't watch programmes like this on a point of principle - it's basically dog fighting for the Chardonnay quaffing classes.

Ruu

Don't forget free swan, car and pram (did you leave yours by the bus top? here's another).

misstearheus

T'is shockin' Joe. It has been my lifelong dream to say that.

allibastor

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Do they actually say what country the person came from...or are you just making an assumption?

Does being a 2nd Generation immigrant make you brittish?

Or having a non British accent

Superhorse

Eh they aren't free, they pay rent on the house but don't let that stop ya.

MilesMorales1

I feel sorry for those poor kids with the Romanian couple. They didn't ask to be dragged to england with the parents to be sleeping in a different place every night.

allibastor

In many cases the council seem to pay all rent for a period.
Just dont understand it. Why the expectant attitude?
If i want a new car or house i work for it.

allibastor

MilesMorales1 wrote: »

I feel sorry for those poor kids with the Romanian couple. They didn't ask to be dragged to england with the parents to be sleeping in a different place every night.

That is what i mean. Its ****. Poor kids

allibastor

Like why drag5 kids over with no plan, just expecting to get sorted

MilesMorales1

That woman who was dealing with them in the council offices, she knew what he was up to. Must every frustrating.

Bongalongherb

For a more stable and equal society within your country, council houses will have to be built/refurbished for every folk of the land that needs housing regardless, otherwise chaos will ensue as more and more folk are put into hotels and B&B's of which is costing astronomical amounts of cash from public money (your taxes).

When a person is offered a council house here in Ireland after 10/15 years waiting, they have to pay rent on this abode they were given, it is not free, and if they miss any payments they are turfed out and this is the case.

Many years ago if you were offered a council house/flat/duplex, you could actually purchase the abode for a decent price. In very wet countries like ours every-one needs a roof over their head and to have privacy and that is a human right, but not in Ireland it seems at this time.

A lot of folk crying and whinging thinking that people get free houses... as I said they are not free and never will be as rent always has to be paid on the abode. All folk seem to do these days is degrade their fellow man/woman and children of a home - 'roof over their head' with some privacy to hide away from the stigma and distasteful bullying from the angry taxpayer.

As Bob Dylan once said... As the times they are a changin... Renovating/repairing within 250,000. Homing your fellow native folk should not be looked at as a disgusting act, it should be looked at as a friendly gesture to your country man/woman.

Thankfully here now at this time the minority government are going to actually do it this time and house folk. About fecking time.

allibastor

Bongalongherb wrote: »

For a more stable and equal society within your country, council houses will have to be built/refurbished for every folk of the land that needs housing regardless, otherwise chaos will ensue as more and more folk are put into hotels and B&B's of which is costing astronomical amounts of cash from public money (your taxes).

When a person is offered a council house here in Ireland after 10/15 years waiting, they have to pay rent on this abode they were given, it is not free, and if they miss any payments they are turfed out and this is the case.

Many years ago if you were offered a council house/flat/duplex, you could actually purchase the abode for a decent price. In very wet countries like ours every-one needs a roof over their head and to have privacy and that is a human right, but not in Ireland it seems at this time.

A lot of folk crying and whinging thinking that people get free houses... as I said they are not free and never will be as rent always has to be paid on the abode. All folk seem to do these days is degrade their fellow man/woman and children of a home - 'roof over their head' with some privacy to hide away from the stigma and distasteful bullying from the angry taxpayer.

As Bob Dylan once said... As the times they are a changin... Renovating/repairing within 250,000. Homing your fellow native folk should not be looked at as a disgusting act, it should be looked at as a friendly gesture to your country man/woman.

Thankfully here now at this time the minority government are going to actually do it this time and house folk. About fecking time.

Help where help can be offered, but lots here seem to be negligent in their parental duties.

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy

Poverty porn!

Bongalongherb

:rolleyes:

The way native Irish folk are being treated by their native country folk and government is nasty sh!t looking at it the last few years.

My taxes go to everything like most folks and I'm not crying or attacking folk, I wonder why that is ?. Put the taxes to good use instead of constantly paying billions to un-guaranteed bondholders of which many folk like to see their cash go to strangely enough. Folk attack their own and completely forget who really robbed you. Take it out on the poor folk was always the childish and easy way to ferment and vomit the attacks to.

All your billions and your children's wages taxed will be paying those bastards for generations, but who cares, we will just attach more stigma and attacks to the weakest in society.

andekwarhola

Must be Tristan porn night. Britain's Weirdest Council Houses on now.

Talk about a double whammy.

First, it's the prole freak show: now it's Molly Parkin and other assorted swingers and eccentrics slumming it in the estates for reassuring balance.

old_aussie

allibastor wrote: »

In many cases the council seem to pay all rent for a period.
Just dont understand it. Why the expectant attitude?
If i want a new car or house i work for it.

Don't forget you also pay for the free houses for others.

Lyaiera

I asked for a helicopter pad with my free house but the incompetents gave me one with a bloody swimming pool.

allibastor

allibastor wrote: »

Does being a 2nd Generation immigrant make you brittish?

Or having a non British accent

Despite the German ancestry, in fairness Queen Elizabeth II has mastered the accent quite well. Is she British enough for you?

Edit - just did a quick search, post after post after post after post by you on the race issue, what white people suffer etc. You really should have the courage to spell out your real position in your OPs, "alabaster". It's an anonymous site, it doesn't exactly take nerves of steel.

allibastor

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Despite the German ancestry, in fairness Queen Elizabeth II has mastered the accent quite well. Is she British enough for you?

Edit - just did a quick search, post after post after post after post by you on the race issue, what white people suffer etc. You really should have the courage to spell out your real position in your OPs, "alabaster". It's an anonymous site, it doesn't exactly take nerves of steel.

In fairness,it is my view on it, we have local homless here and over there. Both are equally ignored. You have first and second Generation immigrants who come with the" its my right" or its" its my entitlement" attitude.

But you know conor, dont let that get in the way of a subtle racism dig. I mean we never here any issues about cultural fit with different groups...

In actuallity,many of those quick searches and post speak about the lack of effort on many parts to adapt to thier new host country, and the expectation for the country to adapt to them.

sillysmiles

allibastor wrote: »

In fairness,it is my view on it, we have local homless here and over there. Both are equally ignored. You have first and second Generation immigrants who come with the" its my right" or its" its my entitlement" attitude.

Second generation immigrants are born there. They haven't come there. They are British. Or do you think that they should be sent back to a country they aren't actually from???

allibastor

allibastor wrote: »

But Many of the workers would strongly seem to not be nationals either, more brought up here or working here.

allibastor wrote: »

Like people want a free house, Many just expect it.

allibastor wrote: »

Just dont understand it. Why the expectant attitude?

allibastor wrote: »

In fairness,it is my view on it, we have local homless here and over there.

As a matter of interest, what is your native language?

I'm trying to figure out what are "like people" and "local homless" and whether you have mangled "expectant" with "expectation".

Either way, I guess the important thing is you watched a programme on a foreign station and it gave you another reason to have a go at...foreigners. Though strangely you then moved on to the appearance and accent the British should have to get Council jobs...

The thread is a car crash. You hate immigrants and you are suspicious of those who look or speak differently. You should have just had the courage to preface the gibberish about rent and British jobs with that.

allibastor

sillysmiles wrote: »

Second generation immigrants are born there. They haven't come there. They are British. Or do you think that they should be sent back to a country they aren't actually from???

No, if they born in the uk then they british.
but if the born and raised there but take no part in integration that becomes an issue.

FTA69

allibastor wrote: »

No, if they born in the uk then they british.
but if the born and raised there but take no part in integration that becomes an issue.

And which council employee on the show fit that description? The people I saw were two Africans and a British-born Muslim woman; all of whom had fluent English and did their jobs in a capable manner.

So to break it down: you watch a show about a different country, give about the foreigners applying for houses and then for good measure complain there's too many foreigners working for the housing department while you're at it?

allibastor

[Deleted User] wrote: »

As a matter of interest, what is your native language?

I'm trying to figure out what are "like people" and "local homless" and whether you have mangled "expectant" with "expectation".

Either way, I guess the important thing is you watched a programme on a foreign station and it gave you another reason to have a go at...foreigners. Though strangely you then moved on to the appearance and accent the British should have to get Council jobs...

The thread is a car crash. You hate immigrants and you are suspicious of those who look or speak differently. You should have just had the courage to preface the gibberish about rent and British jobs with that.

Yes,that is it 100%.

By the by,i am equally against those who would be considered nationals also who are expecting hand outs all the time, i have said this before. But you know, Go on ahead with your racist theme.

FTA69

FTA69 wrote: »

And which council employee on the show fit that description? The people I saw were two Africans and a British-born Muslim woman; all of whom had fluent English...

Do you think they could give the OP a hand with the fluency?

I mean, what IS this? I'm trying to make some sense of it. It's something about posts by foreigners on this site showing their failure to adapt.

I do enjoy how he has squeezed the word "expectation" following my post...

allibastor wrote: »

In actuallity,many of those quick searches and post speak about the lack of effort on many parts to adapt to thier new host country, and the expectation for the country to adapt to them.

allibastor

Hi Conor,

Please see link on the word expectant.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/expectant

allibastor

FTA69 wrote: »

And which council employee on the show fit that description? The people I saw were two Africans and a British-born Muslim woman; all of whom had fluent English and did their jobs in a capable manner.

Actually, I was looking at more was it a coincidence or was it intentionally put that for a show centered on Immigrants, the only staff the showed at work were people who were 1st/2nd generation immigrants. I was actually glad they helped the families who were in obvious distress and had shown that they were actually trying to work, the Polish/Ghana family for example.

allibastor

allibastor wrote: »

Hi Conor,

Please see link on the word expectant.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/expectant

I know the dictionary definition.

I also know the meaning of "alabastar", Allibastor, when used in the context of skin colour. It means white and pure.

mad m

Bongalongherb wrote: »

When a person is offered a council house here in Ireland after 10/15 years waiting, they have to pay rent on this abode they were given, it is not free, and if they miss any payments they are turfed out and this is the case.

M

Pure myth, loads are in arrears, they are not turfed out, they go to rent accounts agree to pay an extra X amount off rent. They may never catch up with arrears but in an extreme case they can be evicted and then it can take up to 2 years.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/dublin-city-council-sent-660-notices-to-quit-but-just-one-tenant-evicted-1.2051522

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/dublin-city-council-considers-changing-rent-arrears-policy-1.2113090

razorblunt

Only caught some of last night's episode, last week's episode showed it from both side of the fence though. The council offered some single mother born in bred in London, a one bedroom flat/apartment in Birmingham and advised her if she rejected it her file would be updated with "turned down an offering". That's hardly fair either.

beach_walker

allibastor wrote: »

Watching this UK based program. IT is actually mad.
Like people want a free house, Many just expect it.

I have no problem with people bleeding money from the British war machine. Tiocfaidh ár lá.

conorhal

Amira Famous Lacrosse wrote: »

Love shows like that. My favourite is "Black disabled muslim thieving gypsies on benefits"

You can snark and sneer all you like but it still won't change the basic fact that migration is putting a massive strain on social services, or deny that we could solve the housing crisis overnight if we declared Nigera a safe country and told those we've permitted to stay here in receipt of social housing and housing benefit that it was time to go home now.

MilesMorales1

I don't doubt the vast majority of immigrants and all that want to come and work and build a better life. But that Romanian chap last night wanted something for nothing, he knew what he was doing bringing those kids with him.

allibastor

Deleted User wrote: »

I know the dictionary definition.

I also know the meaning of "alabastar", Allibastor, when used in the context of skin colour. It means white and pure.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alabaster

I dont know where you get the pure and white thing from.

PS, the name is actually a mix of the letters of my actual name!

FTA69

conorhal wrote: »

You can snark and sneer all you like but it still won't change the basic fact that migration is putting a massive strain on social services, or deny that we could solve the housing crisis overnight if we declared Nigera a safe country and told those we've permitted to stay here in receipt of social housing and housing benefit that it was time to go home now.

So Nigerians are single handedly causing Ireland's housing issues are they? The reason we have a housing crisis is because we have a class of landlords who gouge us for rent while having no restraint placed on them and successive governments who have failed to construct social housing.

Your 'It's the blacks fault' type of nonsense argument is deserving of derision to be honest.

allibastor

MilesMorales1 wrote: »

I don't doubt the vast majority of immigrants and all that want to come and work and build a better life. But that Romanian chap last night wanted something for nothing, he knew what he was doing bringing those kids with him.

This was my point, in the case of the families who seem to be working and trying, yes, help should be made available.
In the case of those who just drop over and have hand out with no plan or anything, then no it shouldn't.
As it was the Romanian guy admitted he had a job in a carwash, was getting JSA and still left to go back home and bring 6 dependents with him, that is where my issue is.

It was the exact same with the WHITE lady from Bermuda, came with no plan or anything then says she has a right to be here. WHY?

FTA69

allibastor wrote: »

Actually, I was looking at more was it a coincidence or was it intentionally put that for a show centered on Immigrants, the only staff the showed at work were people who were 1st/2nd generation immigrants. I was actually glad they helped the families who were in obvious distress and had shown that they were actually trying to work, the Polish/Ghana family for example.

It's London mate, most people are either from somewhere else or have a parent or grandparent who is. I'm in a building at the moment to do with Newham Council and the committee I'm meeting will have one white British member, a second generation Irish fella, a woman of Iranian background and four West Indians. It's the way this place is.

FTA69

allibastor wrote: »

This was my point, in the case of the families who seem to be working and trying, yes, help should be made available.
In the case of those who just drop over and have hand out with no plan or anything, then no it shouldn't.
As it was the Romanian guy admitted he had a job in a carwash, was getting JSA and still left to go back home and bring 6 dependents with him, that is where my issue is.

It was the exact same with the WHITE lady from Bermuda, came with no plan or anything then says she has a right to be here. WHY?

Bermudans are British citizens and are entitled to residency. That doesn't equate to free sh*t either though.

claregal1

allibastor wrote: »

Actually, I was looking at more was it a coincidence or was it intentionally put that for a show centered on Immigrants, the only staff the showed at work were people who were 1st/2nd generation immigrants. I was actually glad they helped the families who were in obvious distress and had shown that they were actually trying to work, the Polish/Ghana family for example.

The same staff are on the show every week regardless of whether they are dealing with British citzens , immigrants, one parent families, homeless , Muslims etc etc .
In relation to the Polish lady and her husband I really felt for them but at the end of the programme they were still homeless and had been for 10 weeks when though both worked - couldn't understand how the council housed the Romanian family before that family ?

allibastor

FTA69 wrote: »

Bermudans are British citizens and are entitled to residency. That doesn't equate to free sh*t either though.

No, and that is my point!!!

Despite what is said, the color of your skin doesnt dictate anything, it is the "give me free sh1te" attitude that sucks.

I mean, I am both a Irish and English passport holder and allowed to live in both, I work here but that doent mean I should have the right to just go to the UK and say "give me a house"