The Happy Pears twins

TheChizler

Was brought to their show back in January in the Cork Opera House, felt physically drained after watching them exerting so much energy bouncing round the stage, don't know where they get it from. Found them slightly annoying but inspiring at the same time! Got their book and eat from it 6 nights a week (and I would have had meat 7 nights before), there's an incredible variety of very tasty meals in there. I liked how they didn't try to come across as know it all nutritionists, and made very little in the way of medical claims. The one claim they did make, that eating a primarily vegetable diet would reduce cholesterol, they backed up with medical data (not qualified to say critique that analysis but I'm just saying they didn't try to present bad science like most health food chancers). They're not high and mighty vegans either, they're happy to share a BBQ with their meat-eating friends. They're just a pair of down to earth, happy, and enthusiastic (at times a little overbearingly so! GF follows them on snapchat and I have to put up with hours of their exclamations of "beautiful!" and "cool!" a week) guys.

Edit: I forgot they did bring up the China Study, make of that what you will, but didn't pull too many of its claims out.

foggy_lad

edanto wrote: »

If I get cancer, I won't be going to the Happy Pear for some mung beans, don't get me wrong. I'll be going straight to an oncologist and doing exactly what they recommend.

The unfortunate thing is that people whose previously happy and content lives have been utterly devastated by cancer will believe the "remarkable" claims made about things like "mung beans" being a cure or providing some curing effect and will give their last euro to any shyster selling magic beans for the chance of not even a cure but some extra time with their loved ones.

Robsweezie

It depends largely on whether you buy into the happy clappy yoga shtick. It's a large part of their identity and if it's not how you personally go about your life, then you'd be inclined to dislike them.

The clash of personality and lifestyle is offputting to many. They're clean eaters and vegans , they're physically active and they're upbeat and enthusiastic in the extreme all the time, at least on camera .

Someone watching them who loves their takeaways, less active and less enthused with life as these two are, would switch off and grunt about "them pair of clowns".

Sometimes for a lot of us, too different is too much.

Begrudgery? Maybe. Though my reason outlined above might have more to do with it.

c68zapdsm5i1ru

black and amber wrote: »

Well could you point it out to me then please.

Begrudgery is the posts making personal comments about the brothers, including the ones based on unfounded gossip.

Criticism is the posts debating the value of their products and the validity of the claims they make about their food.

Robsweezie

Robsweezie wrote: »

It depends largely on whether you buy into the happy clappy yoga shtick. It's a large part of their identity and if it's not how you personally go about your life, then you'd be inclined to dislike them.

The clash of personality and lifestyle is offputting to many. They're clean eaters and vegans , they're physically active and they're upbeat and enthusiastic in the extreme all the time, at least on camera .

Someone watching them who loves their takeaways, less active and less enthused with life as these two are, would switch off and grunt about "them pair of clowns".

Sometimes for a lot of us, too different is too much.

Begrudgery? Maybe. Though my reason outlined above might have more to do with it.

I think a lot of people, myself included, will also have a knee-jerk reaction to people who make fantastical claims that can have a real life detrimental impact on others decisions when they're very vulnerable, as someone newly diagnosed with cancer is often likely to be.

You can be as clean eatingly healthy as you like, but a falsehood or grandiose claim will always have me thinking you're either a) an idiot, or b) a charlatan.

Maireadio

TheChizler wrote: »

Was brought to their show back in January in the Cork Opera House, felt physically drained after watching them exerting so much energy bouncing round the stage, don't know where they get it from. Found them slightly annoying but inspiring at the same time! Got their book and eat from it 6 nights a week (and I would have had meat 7 nights before), there's an incredible variety of very tasty meals in there. I liked how they didn't try to come across as know it all nutritionists, and made very little in the way of medical claims. The one claim they did make, that eating a primarily vegetable diet would reduce cholesterol, they backed up with medical data (not qualified to say critique that analysis but I'm just saying they didn't try to present bad science like most health food chancers). They're not high and mighty vegans either, they're happy to share a BBQ with their meat-eating friends. They're just a pair of down to earth, happy, and enthusiastic (at times a little overbearingly so! GF follows them on snapchat and I have to put up with hours of their exclamations of "beautiful!" and "cool!" a week) guys.

Edit: I forgot they did bring up the China Study, make of that what you will, but didn't pull too many of its claims out.

They sell a "liver detox" veg box though and like I said before, if your liver isn't detoxing things by itself, it's a hospital you need!

The Bishop Basher

swingking wrote: »

Slight exaggeration there don't you think ?

Not at all. Pop down any wet Saturday afternoon and you'll see them lined up down the road.

Sure they sit and drink it outside in the rain ffs.

I think it's incredible what they've done from a business perspective.. To build that level of brand loyalty is rare and when you have it the sky is the limit.

swingking wrote: »

I say fair play to them

Agreed. I don't eat there but they employ locally, they create a good buzz on the Main Street, they put the town on the map and I wish them every success.

TheChizler

Maireadio wrote: »

TheChizler wrote: »

Was brought to their show back in January in the Cork Opera House, felt physically drained after watching them exerting so much energy bouncing round the stage, don't know where they get it from. Found them slightly annoying but inspiring at the same time! Got their book and eat from it 6 nights a week (and I would have had meat 7 nights before), there's an incredible variety of very tasty meals in there. I liked how they didn't try to come across as know it all nutritionists, and made very little in the way of medical claims. The one claim they did make, that eating a primarily vegetable diet would reduce cholesterol, they backed up with medical data (not qualified to say critique that analysis but I'm just saying they didn't try to present bad science like most health food chancers). They're not high and mighty vegans either, they're happy to share a BBQ with their meat-eating friends. They're just a pair of down to earth, happy, and enthusiastic (at times a little overbearingly so! GF follows them on snapchat and I have to put up with hours of their exclamations of "beautiful!" and "cool!" a week) guys.

Edit: I forgot they did bring up the China Study, make of that what you will, but didn't pull too many of its claims out.

They sell a "liver detox" veg box though and like I said before, if your liver isn't detoxing things by itself, it's a hospital you need!

I wasn't aware, oh dear...

For Forks Sake

TheChizler wrote: »

I wasn't aware, oh dear...

https://thehappypear.ie/product/liver-detox-juice-box-weekly/

€14.99 / week for something that you'd probably put together in your local farmers market for half the price, and none of the nonsensical claims.

Fools and their money etc..

Maireadio

TheChizler wrote: »

I wasn't aware, oh dear...

I'm sure the food is really nice and I have no problem with success stories. Just lay off the spurious health claims, lads!

Have they ever been publicly challenged on these claims?

osarusan

This reminded me of this thread.

kidneyfan

jh79 wrote: »

Have they ever been publicly challenged on these claims?

Una Mullally interviewed them in last weeks Irish Times. She has actually had cancer but didn't see anything wrong with what they claim. If it is OK with a cancer survivor what are the rest of us worrying about?

kidneyfan

kidneyfan wrote: »

Una Mullally interviewed them in last weeks Irish Times. She has actually had cancer but didn't see anything wrong with what they claim. If it is OK with a cancer survivor what are the rest of us worrying about?

Eh... accuracy, the truth, false claims etc., etc.

People can't just claim what they want for their product, and just because one person is okay with it that doesn't make it right morally or literally.

Tell enough people with cancer that mung beans will fight off the cancer cells and soon enough someone is going to die because that's what they've relied on to treat it.

It's scary how tolerant people are being of this kind of thing.

For Forks Sake

kidneyfan wrote: »

Una Mullally interviewed them in last weeks Irish Times. She has actually had cancer but didn't see anything wrong with what they claim. If it is OK with a cancer survivor what are the rest of us worrying about?

You're not seriously holding Una Mullally up a beacon of journalistic standards are you?

foggy_lad

For Forks Sake wrote: »

https://thehappypear.ie/product/liver-detox-juice-box-weekly/

€14.99 / week for something that you'd probably put together in your local farmers market for half the price, and none of the nonsensical claims.

Fools and their money etc..

These guys are charging €9.50 for a 300g bag of wheatgrass!
Don't forget to add €5 a week for delivery of your detox box.

It contains 2 organic beetroot, 6 organic carrots, organic celery, 2 lemons, organic ginger piece and 6 lovely organic apples.

https://www.aldi.ie/en/product-range/whats-new/products-detail-page/ps/p/organic-carrots/
https://www.aldi.ie/en/product-range/whats-new/products-detail-page/ps/p/organic-unwaxed-lemons/
https://www.aldi.ie/en/product-range/whats-new/products-detail-page/ps/p/organic-pink-lady/
Organic Celery in Aldi is €1.29 and raw beetroot are €1.50 for a pack of 3-4 medium sized beetroot.

Works out at less than €10
Much more for a lot less in your local Aldi.

I would laugh my head right off if it was found that they get their organic foods from the same suppliers as Aldi/Lidl:D They claim to have a farm but from what I see that is just a unit in a business park where they grow trays of wheatgrass and bean-sprouts etc. They also have a cafe attached to a gym near the rugby club in Greystones, I would imagine they are still meathead jocks but just making a killing on supplying power foods to the market.

Utopia Parkway

Best of luck to them although I can see how their relentless happy clappyness could be irritating to others.

Annasopra

FizzleSticks wrote: »

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Check out their snapchat account where they get up at 5am every morning to walk the beach.

AnonoBoy

kidneyfan wrote: »

Una Mullally interviewed them in last weeks Irish Times. She has actually had cancer but didn't see anything wrong with what they claim. If it is OK with a cancer survivor what are the rest of us worrying about?

You don't have to be a medical expert to survive cancer.

kidneyfan

AnonoBoy wrote: »

You don't have to be a medical expert to survive cancer.

What a curious thing to say.

Wibbs

kidneyfan wrote: »

What a curious thing to say.

Not nearly as curious as ascribing medical or scientific knowledge about nutrition to an Irish Times hack who happened to survive an illness.

Maireadio

kidneyfan wrote: »

What a curious thing to say.

A lot of cancer survivors have no problem believing that inane things cure cancer.

Having said that, tried the Happy Pear's coriander pesto yesterday - delish! Stick to making delicious food, lads, and quit making spurious health claims.

Lollipops23

I'm pretty over this whole no gluten/no dairy/no sugar/no meat thing.

Eat a mix of foods people- it's ok to eat a small amount of red meat. Just not every day of the week. It's ok to eat some choclate. Just not an entire Toblerone.

And if you do overdo it consistently, take responsiblity for your own health. Why do we need to pay two lads to tell us this?

That said, the lads saw a hole in the market and went for it. Fair play, business is business.

thegreatgonzo

Lollipops23 wrote: »

. It's ok to eat some choclate. Just not an entire Toblerone.

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I ate an entire Toblerone recently and I'm not one bit sorry.

MonkieSocks

Here's a couple of Good Videos


A History of the Roseto Effect

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC65tHjdpGg

The truth about healthy eating :pac:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGBGnLfAnzY

Always Be Closing

Are these guys permanently a fixture on TV3's 6 o clock show now?

freshpopcorn

Always Be Closing wrote: »

Are these guys permanently a fixture on TV3's 6 o clock show now?

It's probably handier for them. I saw them on Today with Daithi and Maura one day and they said they got lost on the way to Cork!

Hande hoche!

Always Be Closing wrote: »

Are these guys permanently a fixture on TV3's 6 o clock show now?

Seems like it. Prefer the South African accented chap, more a chef than a nutritionist.

the purple tin

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Best of luck to them although I can see how their relentless happy clappyness could be irritating to others.

It's just not normal to be that happy constantly. My face muscles would b aching from the permanent smiling. They remind me of...

gmisk

I see they have stuck their foot in their big gobs yet again.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/happy-pear-apologise-over-video-26790056

Also someone pointed out that their eyes look like mouths...and I can't unsee it....