Season 6 Episode 6 "Blood of My Blood" - Speculation thread

Nody

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bnt

While everyone's caught up in analysing tonight's episode, one thing in particular has me speculating: the play within the play. I remember the talk when Richard E. Grant was announced as playing the leader of a travelling theatre troupe, and he arrived tonight - not on the stage, but that's him backstage telling Bianca she must do better. I suspect we're going to see a lot more if him: you don't cast such a respected actor for a few lines. Arya's already intrigued by the goings on in the troupe: her orders to assassinate someone who doesn't seem to deserve it, the slanderous portrayal of her father as a Northern idiot, and the lie that Joffrey was going to spare his life. I speculate that she's going to get deeply involved with this troupe in some way. It may just be her ticket back to Westeros.

Sleepy

Benjen will be back in this episode or whenever we next see Bran.

Looking forward to seeing the Blackfish back too!

LionelNashe

bnt wrote: »

While everyone's caught up in analysing tonight's episode, one thing in particular has me speculating: the play within the play. I remember the talk when Richard E. Grant was announced as playing the leader of a travelling theatre troupe, and he arrived tonight - not on the stage, but that's him backstage telling Bianca she must do better. I suspect we're going to see a lot more if him: you don't cast such a respected actor for a few lines. Arya's already intrigued by the goings on in the troupe: her orders to assassinate someone who doesn't seem to deserve it, the slanderous portrayal of her father as a Northern idiot, and the lie that Joffrey was going to spare his life. I speculate that she's going to get deeply involved with this troupe in some way. It may just be her ticket back to Westeros.

Just double-checked and I am pretty sure he played the King Robert character onstage. I like this theory though; it could mean a trip back to King's Landing specifically. She'll have to pull Jacqen Hagar and whats-her-face up on their bull**** first though and stick a knife in both of them.

bnt

LionelNashe wrote: »

Just double-checked and I am pretty sure he played the King Robert character onstage.

I thought that too, and I agree it's possible, but backstage we see him in a different costume and taking off a blond wig. So I concluded he played some other character we didn't see. Or perhaps King Robert and this other character. It's not important, though.

tricky D

So where is Yara off to? She has a good few wooden horses. (clutches at straws)

LionelNashe

tricky D wrote: »

So where is Yara off to? She has a good few wooden horses. (clutches at straws)

She'll take Dragonstone, maybe? She's always saying that their strength is in the sea, and Dragonstone coming back into the series could be useful for the plot, because of it being a huge source of Dragonglass, and its proximity to King's landing.

letowski

Sleepy wrote:

Benjen will be back in this episode or whenever we next see Bran.

Im sure they will have to pick where they left off in the next episode, Meera and Bran were not getting far or going fast.

J. Marston

Maybe Yara is off to meet Dany first? She just stole a march on Euron by taking most of his ships and I doubt Dany will mind if Yara is not Queen of the Iron Islands.

Not sure where Meera is off to with Bran. She won't get far with no Hodor (:() or Summer.

The North are recruiting. The Manderlys were mentioned. Wyman Manderly speech? Yes please!

duffman13

J. Marston wrote: »

Maybe Yara is off to meet Dany first? She just stole a march on Euron by taking most of his ships and I doubt Dany will mind if Yara is not Queen of the Iron Islands.

Not sure where Meera is off to with Bran. She won't get far with no Hodor (:() or Summer.

The North are recruiting. The Manderlys were mentioned. Wyman Manderly speech? Yes please!

I couldn't see Dany being a fan of Euron anyway, he seems a bit sure of himself and hes off to wed the dragon queen and bring greatness back to the Iron Islands. With Danys army now there is nothing stopping her seizing as many boats as she needs to cross the narrow sea.

He seems exactly like the type of bloke Dany would despise

Sleepy

You think? He's rather similar to Daario...

awec

bnt wrote: »

While everyone's caught up in analysing tonight's episode, one thing in particular has me speculating: the play within the play. I remember the talk when Richard E. Grant was announced as playing the leader of a travelling theatre troupe, and he arrived tonight - not on the stage, but that's him backstage telling Bianca she must do better. I suspect we're going to see a lot more if him: you don't cast such a respected actor for a few lines. Arya's already intrigued by the goings on in the troupe: her orders to assassinate someone who doesn't seem to deserve it, the slanderous portrayal of her father as a Northern idiot, and the lie that Joffrey was going to spare his life. I speculate that she's going to get deeply involved with this troupe in some way. It may just be her ticket back to Westeros.

The fact that they gave it as many screen minutes as they did in last night's episode would suggest something more interesting is going to happen other than her just poisoning the woman.

flazio

That all important preview clip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ePO5JXVULM

klose

Ugh, sam and gilly.!

ec18

Is that Sansa's voice at the start?

bnt

awec wrote: »

The fact that they gave it as many screen minutes as they did in last night's episode would suggest something more interesting is going to happen other than her just poisoning the woman.

Since I wrote that, I've become aware that the theatre troupe does appear in a book - specifically, in an advance chapter from The Winds of Winter. Not that that's much of a spoiler, since it doesn't tell the whole story, and the series has deviated from that too.

Pepe LeFrits

Ugh, the Tyrell army is going to get slaughtered isn't it? ffs.

(and probably Olenna, Margaery and Mace with it...)

amos13

Pepe LeFrits wrote:

Ugh, the Tyrell army is going to get slaughtered isn't it? ffs.

I think not. We still have no idea what olenna and other lannister dude who's name escapes me where yakking about in those secret council meetings

razorblunt

Benjen or Coldhands to pick up Meera and Bran.

Jelle1880

Can't ****ing wait to see that High Sparrow dickhead get his comeuppance :pac:

lbj666

Lads i dunno where this Gilly and Sam thing is going especially Horn hill unless

It was some thing to do with Randall having and Valerian sword

but that has never been mentioned in the show. I know Sam has importance because he seems to be the only Maester wanna be that has an interest in the history of keeping white walkers at bay.

BoJack Horseman

Sound the continuity alert klaxon!

Last season when Cersei does her walk of atonement, she leaves the temple and walks down the steps to a street.



Now Margery & the Sparrow stand before the same temple and before them is a large square..



Surely an error... but perhaps a necessary one if battle is to commence.

BoJack Horseman

Pepe LeFrits wrote: »

Ugh, the Tyrell army is going to get slaughtered isn't it?

Well, they seem to be bearing spears.
Like the Unsullied in Myrene, spears are of less use in close quarter combat.

Witcher

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

Sound the continuity alert klaxon!

Last season when Cersei does her walk of atonement, she leaves the temple and walks down the steps to a street.

Now Margery & the Sparrow stand before the same temple and before them is a large square..

There are several entrances into the building;

Door to their right and possibly left here;



and one in the opposite corner when the camera has switched around;

https://gameofthronesguide.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/27.png

2ndcoming

I know it's not 100%, but there are a couple highly interesting cast members listed for next week's episode on imdb.

PressRun

Pepe LeFrits wrote: »

Ugh, the Tyrell army is going to get slaughtered isn't it? ffs.

(and probably Olenna, Margaery and Mace with it...)

I'm a bit worried about what's going to happen here. There's no way the High Sparrow isn't anticipating some sort of violent push-back from the Tyrells and Lannisters. I feel like someone important is going to get caught in the crossfire.

BoJack Horseman

2ndcoming wrote: »

I know it's not 100%, but there are a couple highly interesting cast members listed for next week's episode on imdb.

I hope they do that well.

Merra is dragging the twice-her-size Bran through the deep snow with the army of the dead about 20 seconds behind her.

They should be dead.

Next week's cast member will have a tough challenge plausibly extricating them....

Mickeroo

Pepe LeFrits wrote: »

Ugh, the Tyrell army is going to get slaughtered isn't it? ffs.

(and probably Olenna, Margaery and Mace with it...)

I kind of thought that was Cersei's plan all along, or at least have Margaery offed in the hubbub.

Pepe LeFrits

Mickeroo wrote: »

I kind of thought that was Cersei's plan all along, or at least have Margaery offed in the hubbub.

Yes, I'm sure it is her plan. However it's very obvious and Olenna would see through it immediately. There's no way Cersei outwits Olenna unless, eh, well, the writers need to get the Tyrells out of the way because the finish line is in sight.

Scarinae

bnt wrote: »

I remember the talk when Richard E. Grant was announced as playing the leader of a travelling theatre troupe, and he arrived tonight - not on the stage, but that's him backstage telling Bianca she must do better. I suspect we're going to see a lot more if him: you don't cast such a respected actor for a few lines.

Didn't he say something to her about how there are no small parts? That would suggest that he's not going to have a small part in the upcoming plot anyway

EagererBeaver

bnt wrote: »

Since I wrote that, I've become aware that the theatre troupe does appear in a book - specifically, in an advance chapter from The Winds of Winter. Not that that's much of a spoiler, since it doesn't tell the whole story, and the series has deviated from that too.

There is a troupe, of which Arya is a member, but what we saw this week bears absolutely no resemblance to what was in TWoW. Be interesting to see if there's an angle beyond "Arya's first job".

Very interested to see what happens in King's Landing. If Tyrrell army is crushed and their power destroyed, it would be an utter travesty as it would mean the Queen of Thorns made a cataclysmic, idiotic blunder, which she just doesn't do.

Another thing nagging at me is that this "friendly" army appears to have been readily welcomed into the city. The last time the gates were opened for a friendly army, some very bad things happened...

Mickeroo

Pepe LeFrits wrote: »

Yes, I'm sure it is her plan. However it's very obvious and Olenna would see through it immediately. There's no way Cersei outwits Olenna unless, eh, well, the writers need to get the Tyrells out of the way because the finish line is in sight.

I don't think that's unlikely considering the way things went in Dorne.

Dravokivich

EagererBeaver wrote: »

Another thing nagging at me is that this "friendly" army appears to have been readily welcomed into the city. The last time the gates were opened for a friendly army, some very bad things happened...

doesn't seem like that'll be the case, episode outline on IMDB

"An old foe comes back into the picture. Gilly meets Sam's family. Arya faces a difficult choice. Jaime faces off against the High Sparrow."

Doesn't look like it's the Tyrells taking on the high sparrow.

kingshankly

ec18 wrote: »

Is that Sansa's voice at the start?

Sounds like meera to me

Mr Velo

Confirmed.........

Mr Velo

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Mr Velo

Confirmed for the next Episode.

Benjen Stark is back in this episode. Actor who plays him listed in episode IMDB as "Brother Beyond The Wall"
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4283054/fullcredits?ref_=tt_ov_st_sm

Sleepy

IMDB is user edited so not really reliable. Michelle Fairley has repeatedly been added to cast lists since the Red Wedding.

That said, I can't think of another way for Bran to survive and Benjen Stark has been a Chekov's gun since the first season.

Mr Velo

Sleepy wrote: »

IMDB is user edited so not really reliable. Michelle Fairley has repeatedly been added to cast lists since the Red Wedding.

That said, I can't think of another way for Bran to survive and Benjen Stark has been a Chekov's gun since the first season.

That's very true, however, one very big difference this time:

Previously when Michelle Fairly and Joseph Mawle were listed in IMDB episodes, they were for the "previously on Game of Thrones" section. Mawle was always listed as "Benjen Stark", but this time he is "Brother Beyond The Wall". Could be the shows version of Coldhands.

intheclouds

Richard E Grant - I would be excited except they have used a number of great actors in teeny parts and not used them to their full capability at all. Max von Sydow being the most recent. But before that Ciaran Hinds, Tobias Menzies, Mackenzie Crook, a tragic waste of Alexander Siddig, Paul Kaye, another tragic waste in Richard Dormer to name but a few. So i wont get too excited for Richard E Grant just yet.

Will Benjen Stark reappear? I hope so. IMDB cannot be trusted so I wouldnt pay any attention to that.

I reckon Theon and Meera are off to Danyerys.

Tell me - was Littlefinger telling the truth about the Blackfish and Riverrun or is Brienne walking into a Frey trap there?

Sam/Gilly and Horn Hill - there is some unrevealed stuff going to happen here. I wonder if Davos is going to run across them at Horn Hill when he goes to rouse the Northern houses? They have cast Sams father and brother too so it seems like it is some kind of relevant storyline but I fail to see what just yet.

Sleepy

Horn Hill is in The Reach rather than the North, no?

intheclouds

Sleepy wrote: »

Horn Hill is in The Reach rather than the North, no?

Sorry it is. I got confused when I saw the mention of Horn (something) on the map that Jon Snow, Davos etc were looking at.

Forget my Horn Hill theory. Now I really have no idea why we are seeing Sams family home.

GerB40

intheclouds wrote: »

Sorry it is. I got confused when I saw the mention of Horn (something) on the map that Jon Snow, Davos etc were looking at.

Forget my Horn Hill theory. Now I really have no idea why we are seeing Sams family home.

I'd say you were thinking of house Hornwood, they are in the north.

Akrasia

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

I hope they do that well.

Merra is dragging the twice-her-size Bran through the deep snow with the army of the dead about 20 seconds behind her.

They should be dead.

Next week's cast member will have a tough challenge plausibly extricating them....

Unless Bran can posess the witewalkers now.... When the whitewalker touched Bran the 3 eyed crow dude said that now they're connected and the whitewalkers knew where they were instantly, well, maybe that connection goes both ways...
Bran has to survive, it would be utterly pointless to have Hodor sacrifice himself holding that door just so they could get slaughtered in the forest 200 yards from the tree.

Akrasia

intheclouds wrote: »

Sorry it is. I got confused when I saw the mention of Horn (something) on the map that Jon Snow, Davos etc were looking at.

Forget my Horn Hill theory. Now I really have no idea why we are seeing Sams family home.

Somewhere to ditch Gilly while Sam goes off to learn how to be a wizard

I haven't looked at the cast list for next week, but just thinking how Ian McShane was cast for an appearance for this season but has yet to make it. I hope this is the episode.

intheclouds

stankratz wrote: »

I haven't looked at the cast list for next week, but just thinking how Ian McShane was cast for an appearance for this season but has yet to make it. I hope this is the episode.

I think itll be later in the season. Get HYPE!

pinkypinky

I actually thought Ian McShane would be one of the dreary Iron born but it seems like they've dropped the other brother.

Full disclosure - I know the storyline which McShane is reportedly involved in. This alone is making me look forward to it, but also Ian McShane is a great actor and as good as I feel this season has been so far, I'm excited that he has yet to make his appearance.

amos13

stankratz wrote:

Full disclosure - I know the storyline which McShane is reportedly involved in. This alone is making me look forward to it, but also Ian McShane is a great actor and as good as I feel this season has been so far, I'm excited that he has yet to make his appearance.

Didn't McShane say he was there to

bring back a beloved character? I'd love if it was LS and Brienne encounters her on the road to riverrun but I feel it will be the hound.

intheclouds

amos13 wrote: »

Didn't McShane say he was there to

bring back a beloved character? I'd love if it was LS and Brienne encounters her on the road to riverrun but I feel it will be the hound.

Yeah he more or less confirmed same.

I'd say the show runners are sickened with him and his various comments in interviews!