Adam Rose Released

Lord TSC

Adam Rose has been arrested for domestic battery abuse and tampering with a witness.

Release from WWE in three....two....

ricero

Jasus what an idiot and after proving he wasnt on drugs

beakerjoe

Just because he was arrested doesn't mean he's guilty lads..... though this doesn't look good, ruins his good guy image if true.

Lord TSC

beakerjoe wrote: »

Just because he was arrested doesn't mean he's guilty lads..... though this doesn't look good, ruins his good guy image if true.

While I agree, the timing is horrid for him. WWE were probably looking for an excuse to get rid of him and now they have it.

the groutch

to be honest he was doomed from day one, his gimmick was on the same level of cringe as the Funkasaurus and the Gobbledygooker.

Bounty Hunter

Lord TSC wrote: »

Adam Rose has been arrested for domestic battery abuse and tampering with a witness.

Release from WWE in three....two....

Jaysus.

obviously lets wait and see if it's true but if so he is 100% gone. One would assume the WWE would wait before releasing him too (unless it is a cut and dry case) incase releasing him blows up in their face.

A real surprise after how he was portrayed in that ESPN e60 show.

Bounty Hunter

DrumSteve

That's some heel turn.

sky88

On that ESPN special he seemed like he loved his family so much. He has a realy sick kid too.

shocked after the suspension.

Lithium93_

Adam Rose arrested in Florida, charged with tampering with a witness and battery domestic violence, according to his public arrest report.

http://www.foxsports.com/wwe/story/wwe-adam-rose-arrested-051116

Surely his days with the company are numbered now, though his 2nd suspension is "Iffy"

hufpc8w3adnk65

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Adam Rose arrested in Florida, charged with tampering with a witness and battery domestic violence, according to his public arrest report.

http://www.foxsports.com/wwe/story/wwe-adam-rose-arrested-051116

WWE would like too wish Adam all the best in his future endeavors

Mr.Nice Guy

He's finished for sure.

And excuse my ignorance but what does tampering with a witness mean?

Lithium93_

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

He's finished for sure.

And excuse my ignorance but what does tampering with a witness mean?

A quick explanation from Wikipedia

Witness tampering is the act of attempting to alter or prevent the testimony of witnesses within criminal or civil proceedings.

Bounty Hunter

sounds like he threatened someone so that they wouldn't report his domestic battery but I suppose they did anyway. Really contradicts the image I'd say most had because of the ESPN special but if it did happen he is sooo gone from the WWE. tbh it isn't any real loss to the company and the fact that he seemed to be such a nice guy (and have a kid in an unfortunate condition) was probably the main reason people didn't wanna see him gone before now.

Itssoeasy

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

He's finished for sure.

And excuse my ignorance but what does tampering with a witness mean?

The details of his case are calling the fact that he grabbed the phone off his wife tampering with a witness.

Lord TSC

WWE has suspended Rose indefinitely

JP Liz V1

PWInsider.com has acquired the criminal report affidavit for the arrest of WWE star Adam Rose, real name Ray Leppan, filed by the Hillsborough County Sheriff’s office in Florida.
According to the report, Leppan and his wife were involved in an argument about the state of their marriage when he grabbed her face with his hands and pulled her close to his face as he screamed at her. His wife dialed 911 from their home phone but Leppan took the phone from her to prevent her from reporting the incident. According to the arresting officers, Leppan admitted he took the phone from his wife.
Leppan grabbing the phone from his wife resulted in the tampering with a witness charge, which is a felony in the state of Florida.
The domestic battery charge is a misdemeanor, and Rose is still in jail with no bond.

I thought he had beaten up his wife while there is no excuse for what he did I thought it would be far worse

Why was he already suspended from WWE, was it drugs?

Lord TSC

Wellness violation. He claimed it was an anti ADHD drug he has been on for a while and WWE knew about, but it flagged up this time on his tests.

connemara man

Oh my god what is Alan Tulip doing in the impact zone

spektorfive

Yeah is was for drugs. But instead of being silent like most are, Rose called them out on it and proved he a legit reason for the drugs. But this will be the nail in the coffin for him.

Agent Coulson

If he stopped taking his ADHD drugs because of the WWE and his job security he could us that for the reason he lost his temper.

He could claim that his prescribed med's helped him with his temper but because he failed a drug test at work and couldn't afford to lose his job he stopped taking his prescribed meds.

the groutch

connemara man wrote: »

Oh my god what is Alan Tulip doing in the impact zone

no, there's only one Tulip

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSfKPuUt3qw

citytillidie

Taryn Terrell did not last long after her arrest for domestic abuse over Drew Galloway

DEFTLEFTHAND

citytillidie wrote: »

Taryn Terrell did not last long after her arrest for domestic abuse over Drew Galloway

Drew's career there seemed to go rapidly down hill afterwards. I can just imagine how Vince felt about that whole affair.

shineon23

Lithium93_ wrote:

Adam Rose arrested in Florida, charged with tampering with a witness and battery domestic violence, according to his public arrest report.

it took me to read this post to realise, he tampered with a witness.
Not tampered with a waitress.

I need sleep.

Mick Murdock

US laws arent exactly favourable to these guys. Within a few hours the details of the case and mugshots are out there for the world to see.

Hope he's fired for being an idiot.

Joe Musashi

The guy is a total stiff but he has a sob story. No loss is Leo.

Chain Smoker

Mick Murdock wrote: »

US laws arent exactly favourable to these guys. Within a few hours the details of the case and mugshots are out there for the world to see.

Hope he's fired for being an idiot.

That's Florida, where the WWE, through setting up all of the developmental stuff for years, has effectively made the default home location of their whole roster. It's extremely transparent about this stuff.

When people go on about Florida being this crazy place because of all the nuts police reports that emerge, what they don't realise is that similar stuff could be happening all over the place, it just isn't publicly broadcast in a hell of a lot of detail the second it happens.

Lord TSC

Adam Rose has been released

http://www.wwe.com/article/adam-rose-released

B.A._Baracus

I do not think anyone is shocked to hear the guy got released. Once he got arrested his job in wwe was gone.

But of course, unless you are a bonafide main eventer like Steve Austin who beat up his wife Debra. That would be different. WWE would sweep that under the rug.... like they did!

ERG89

After seeing that ESPN piece before your heart only goes out to his wife and kids tbh.

Mick Murdock

The only surprise is that it took so long.

Perhaps not popular to bash people who lose their job but to me this guy typifies everything that i don't like about modern wrestlers. The charisma of a wet mop, horrible promos, doesn't sound or look tough, hired because he happens to be from a particular country. Belongs in the crowd rather than the ring.

Sandow, Zeb and Cody (better off elsewhere) are the only real losses.

Galloway isn't exactly Hulk Hogan now.

It's a cut throat business and they should trum the fat more often in my opinion.

Chain Smoker

Yep, it's pretty awful how it all went down but really Rose had no right to a place on the roster within 6 months of being called up. Would definitely consider Galloway to be on a different tier altogether tbh, and I don't even rate him.

The Adam Rose character wasn't that bad, but Ray Leppan didn't have the charisma to make it work. Can you imagine what Heath Slater would've done with a party crew carrying him out every week and the like?

briany

Chain Smoker wrote: »

The Adam Rose character wasn't that bad, but Ray Leppan didn't have the charisma to make it work. Can you imagine what Heath Slater would've done with a party crew carrying him out every week and the like?

The WWE didn't get behind the guy. They gave him, what, a month with the party gimmick when he got to the main roster. Then they took his entourage away. He started doing his 'Party's over' gimmick mostly on the B-shows. That got a reaction, especially when he came out singing his name to the tune of Taps, and the weird bunny man gimmick was intriguing. That was nixed without explanation before going to Adam Rose Party-lite where he floundered in a stable that was given the persona of being a bunch of annoying clowns. He was given no runway to make an impact. It seems like with a lot of lower tier guys and they try something, it either gets two weeks or disappears without explanation.

Some guys don't make a splash immediately. Some legends in the business like Stone Cold and The Rock were not exactly well-received upon their WWE debuts, but they worked on characters that eventually connected with the audience, hugely. I don't see why today lower-tier guys, with all the programming time WWE now has can't be given carte blanche to get themselves over without their creative efforts being sabotaged or nixed at every turn. The WWE must just not like money, or not like money that doesn't come directly out of their creative bosom.

Chain Smoker

briany wrote: »

The WWE didn't get behind the guy. They gave him, what, a month with the party gimmick when he got to the main roster. Then they took his entourage away. He started doing his 'Party's over' gimmick mostly on the B-shows. That got a reaction, especially when he came out singing his name to the tune of Taps, and the weird bunny man gimmick was intriguing. That was nixed without explanation before going to Adam Rose Party-lite where he floundered in a stable that was given the persona of being a bunch of annoying clowns. He was given no runway to make an impact. It seems like with a lot of lower tier guys and they try something, it either gets two weeks or disappears without explanation.

Some guys don't make a splash immediately. Some legends in the business like Stone Cold and The Rock were not exactly well-received upon their WWE debuts, but they worked on characters that eventually connected with the audience, hugely. I don't see why today lower-tier guys, with all the programming time WWE now has can't be given carte blanche to get themselves over without their creative efforts being sabotaged or nixed at every turn. The WWE must just not like money, or not like money that doesn't come directly out of their creative bosom.

Ach, he never showed an ounce of life as the character and had been in developmental for 5 years. Even his first few appearances were quite poorly received iirc (the second the entrance wrapped up there was nothing there at all). Like, it was a good character but you'd need a really big personality to make it work. He was bumped up because it was literally his last chance, he was about to get completely lost in the shuffle with all the new talent coming in.

With so many guys available and clamouring for a spot, I can't really say I felt like Adam Rose deserved any more chances than he got. When a lolrandom bunny is the highlight and most memorable thing about the character, that's not a good sign.

The Rock always had a great look, solid family background, and was super young, Steve Austin had an extremely solid track record behind him. Hugely different to a mid 30s dude with nothing of note from 15 years in the industry.

Angron

I think the Bunny was nixed because Gabriel left, and nobody else was desperate enough to take it on.

briany

Chain Smoker wrote: »

Ach, he never showed an ounce of life as the character and had been in developmental for 5 years. Even his first few appearances were quite poorly received iirc (the second the entrance wrapped up there was nothing there at all). Like, it was a good character but you'd need a really big personality to make it work. He was bumped up because it was literally his last chance, he was about to get completely lost in the shuffle with all the new talent coming in.

With so many guys available and clamouring for a spot, I can't really say I felt like Adam Rose deserved any more chances than he got. When a lolrandom bunny is the highlight and most memorable thing about the character, that's not a good sign.

The Rock always had a great look, solid family background, and was super young, Steve Austin had an extremely solid track record behind him. Hugely different to a mid 30s dude with nothing of note from 15 years in the industry.

Just because a performer flounders in WWE doesn't mean they're lacking in charisma. The history of the company is littered with names who've been successful elsewhere, who've had great records, but slipped through the cracks of WWE's creative machine, because they've been given the wrong gimmick or whatever. It's also evident that just because a guy is put on top, it doesn't mean they have a proven record or charisma, ahem.

It's true that Rose did not have the chops to adequately pull off party gimmick, at least not in the few weeks of runway provided, but his character did have a chance to evolve into something more fitting with the party's over stuff. I just don't like when WWE has so much air time to fill and they can't seem to give some of these B-performers time to try stuff and see what works. If something starts working, go with it, don't inexplicably stifle stuff like with Bad News Barrett and Zack Ryder. Heath Slater is a guy who topped a fan poll a while ago and got a sit down interview with Michael Cole out of it. He's got charisma in spades and yet the WWE see fit to have him lead a buffoonish stable who get only a few minutes of air time in a week where they usually receive a summary beating (and a cake to the face as was the case this week).

Chain Smoker

briany wrote: »

Just because a performer flounders in WWE doesn't mean they're lacking in charisma. The history of the company is littered with names who've been successful elsewhere, who've had great records, but slipped through the cracks of WWE's creative machine, because they've been given the wrong gimmick or whatever. It's also evident that just because a guy is put on top, it doesn't mean they have a proven record or charisma, ahem.

It's true that Rose did not have the chops to adequately pull off party gimmick, at least not in the few weeks of runway provided, but his character did have a chance to evolve into something more fitting with the party's over stuff. I just don't like when WWE has so much air time to fill and they can't seem to give some of these B-performers time to try stuff and see what works. If something starts working, go with it, don't inexplicably stifle stuff like with Bad News Barrett and Zack Ryder. Heath Slater is a guy who topped a fan poll a while ago and got a sit down interview with Michael Cole out of it. He's got charisma in spades and yet the WWE see fit to have him lead a buffoonish stable who get only a few minutes of air time in a week where they usually receive a summary beating (and a cake to the face as was the case this week).

I get your point, but honestly the issue is that three hours is just way too much. There's a limit to how much you can expect an audience to process per week and adding an extra hour isn't going to make them able to take on much more. There's a pretty good reason why there are endless recaps throughout raw.
Three hours with stuff actually going on would be overwhelming in a Russo type way.

They should've gave Sandow more as the Mizdow thing was ending, it's definitely worth giving guys a chance but I still think Rose hadn't shown enough to warrant being kept on beyond this most recent cull.
Of the people WWE underused that became really good elsewhere, there's nearly always some evidence of their talent or some really obvious reason why WWE would not want them to succeed. I'm struggling to think of any who showed as little as Rose that produced anything elsewhere... Might be worth a thread!

briany

Chain Smoker wrote: »

I get your point, but honestly the issue is that three hours is just way too much. There's a limit to how much you can expect an audience to process per week and adding an extra hour isn't going to make them able to take on much more. There's a pretty good reason why there are endless recaps throughout raw.
Three hours with stuff actually going on would be overwhelming in a Russo type way.

Even though the show is longer today, I think there's actually less going on. The amount of filler on Raw and Smackdown is huge. The adbreaks alone take up 45 minutes. Matches that contribute to no particular story take up even more time. Then there's the recaps and the shilling and the promos for other WWE programmes. RAW is 3 hours in real time but in digest form, in terms of what you actually need to take in, it would be doing really well on a given week to make 30 minutes because WWE are trying to draw out some of these storylines week to week and put the brakes on them so they can get to the PPV. They wouldn't have to do this so much, though, if they were able to get more stars involved. Russo might be contemptible in many ways, but I respect that he had a philosophy of having a story arc for every guy on the show with progression from week to week.

Ageyev

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

I do not think anyone is shocked to hear the guy got released. Once he got arrested his job in wwe was gone.

But of course, unless you are a bonafide main eventer like Steve Austin who beat up his wife Debra. That would be different. WWE would sweep that under the rug.... like they did!

Yeah, I have little sympathy for him losing the gig.

That said, Austin has evaded any questions about what he did to Debra - he was asked on Wade Keller's phone-in show about a year and a half ago. So it's not just WWE who sweep it away but Austin and Keller.

Chain Smoker

Ageyev wrote: »

Yeah, I have little sympathy for him losing the gig.

That said, Austin has evaded any questions about what he did to Debra - he was asked on Wade Keller's phone-in show about a year and a half ago. So it's not just WWE who sweep it away but Austin and Keller.

Yeah, I didn't mind Austin not bringing it up much, but the way he shied away from it the ONE TIME I've heard it brought up was pretty ****ing bad.
He himself talks about that patch of his life as being really messed up and full of regret. It wouldn't be too hard to imagine he'd feel remorse over it.

...but his attitude towards it stinks a fair bit

sky88

Chain Smoker wrote: »

Yeah, I didn't mind Austin not bringing it up much, but the way he shied away from it the ONE TIME I've heard it brought up was pretty ****ing bad.
He himself talks about that patch of his life as being really messed up and full of regret. It wouldn't be too hard to imagine he'd feel remorse over it.

...but his attitude towards it stinks a fair bit

I get the feeling austin is just embrassed about that whole period of his life. he really seemed to be in a mess personally. But he has to own up to the facts of what he did.

Chain Smoker

sky88 wrote: »

I get the feeling austin is just embrassed about that whole period of his life. he really seemed to be in a mess personally. But he has to own up to the facts of what he did.

Exactly, it's more than a bit ridiculous that he's so openly remorseful about walking out of WWE (where his reasons were pretty ****ing strong imo; there definitely was a bit of an agenda on HHH's part at the very least, to pull him down) and evade ever acknowledging the Debra stuff.

That being said, when no one ever brings it up, what does he stand to gain other than bringing a load of hassle onto himself by people remembering it? Obviously it's the right thing to do but all he's gonna get from that is a mainstream media brouhaha; a hell of a lot of people (seemingly all major wrestling journalists, for example) are being complicit in it all too.

bobby_says_hi

http://www.prowrestlingsheet.com/adam-rose-cuts-hair-photo/

cut all his hair off after asking for his release. Seems like he wants to be over and done with that part of his career now.