Has PC gone too far?

Electric Sex Pants

Hey everyone,

I saw a video recently, maybe I'm late to the party on this if so Im sorry.

However the video shows a black woman tell a white man he cannot wear dreadlocks because its "her culture".

Personally I think that this is nothing short of racial harassment and is disgraceful

Here is the link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAwSFv8e8K4


would love to hear what everyone thinks

LDN_Irish

She was a complete dickhead. If political correctness meant that you can harass white people with hairstyles you don't want them to have then it has certainly gone too far. Luckily, that's not what it means.

Electric Sex Pants

LDN_Irish wrote: »

She was a complete dickhead. If political correctness meant that you can harass white people with hairstyles you don't want them to have then it has certainly gone too far. Luckily, that's not what it means.

And what would you consider PC to be?

brevity

Isnt there more to that video? I thought he called her a bitch for handing out leaflets or something like that.

BattleCorp

All PC bull**** stops at my front door. Enter at your peril if you are a lily livered PC pussy.

Dr Crayfish

Any reason for white people not to have dreadlocks should be taken into account

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

Nobody should have dreadlocks. Dreadlocks are the worst

Electric Sex Pants

brevity wrote: »

Isnt there more to that video? I thought he called her a bitch for handing out leaflets or something like that.

I have looked at alot of different links but haven't found it, im not saying it doesn't exist but i just haven't seen it. Even if he did do that, what she did in the video is still unacceptable. Plus if shes an SJW chances are any leaflets she was handing out were probably filled with nonsense anyway

Electric Sex Pants

BattleCorp wrote: »

All PC bull**** stops at my front door. Enter at your peril if you are a lily livered PC pussy.

My kind of thinker!! props

SEPT 23 1989

the state of your man behind them:o

SterlingArcher

I agree. Stop culture rape...When I witnessed president Obama drinking the pint of Guinness. I wanted to say " sup bozo "roundhouse the glass out of his hand and inform him" I'm the new king of Ireland "

Yeah he said he part Irish but so is every tom, dick n Obama nowadays.

Speedwell

"Political correctness" is the snide buzzword used by those who haven't yet mastered kindness and tolerance. If people were kind and tolerant to each other (and yes, it goes "both ways"), there would be no need for mean people to resent "correct" behavior.

Electric Sex Pants

LexieOnRale wrote: »

Nobody should have dreadlocks. Dreadlocks are the worst

Haha not a fan myself either, but he has the right to have his hair like that

Electric Sex Pants

Speedwell wrote: »

"Political correctness" is the snide buzzword used by those who haven't yet mastered kindness and tolerance. If people were kind and tolerant to each other (and yes, it goes "both ways"), there would be no need for mean people to resent "correct" behavior.

Personally I think PC is just a way for people to try and limit free speech. Also it creates a generation of professionally offended pussies

Speedwell

Electric Sex Pants wrote: »

Personally I think PC is just a way for people to try and limit free speech. Also it creates a generation of professionally offended pussies

I rest my case.

cml387

I was in PC World last week.

You need to be awfully careful what you say there.

maudgonner

I disagree with her, but he may well be the most annoying creature on the planet. So I'm conflicted and my head hurts.

Ush1

I don't understand, many ancient European cultures had dreadlocks.

OldGoat

Ush1 wrote: »

I don't understand, many ancient European cultures had dreadlocks.

pft, FACTS are the ruination of a good oul rant.

Dr Crayfish

Ush1 wrote: »

I don't understand, many ancient European cultures had dreadlocks.

I don't think they were fashion conscious. It just goes all matted if you don't brush it.

readyletsgo

Yes, PC and feminism has been let go too far.

http://youtu.be/BY1H1rZL53I

http://youtu.be/Y_zfgWRM1q0

Thankfully it seems to be the entitled youth of America more so right now

Duggy747

Not PC gone mad because I haven't seen anyone agree with her, she's just someone with a chip on their shoulder and acting like a racist brat.

Superhorse

Dreadlocks > Mullet.

Also black person in racism shocker...

Potatoeman

Speedwell wrote: »

"Political correctness" is the snide buzzword used by those who haven't yet mastered kindness and tolerance. If people were kind and tolerant to each other (and yes, it goes "both ways"), there would be no need for mean people to resent "correct" behavior.

The 'your rights end where my feelings begin' answer. It's very shortsighted and can be used against the same people that use it.

StupidLikeAFox

Tbh I find the outrage over "PC" stuff worse.

This video is a prime example. You have some idiot make some idiotic point that white men shouldn't have dreadlocks. Nobody agrees with her, yet you have people falling over themselves to be outraged *at* her.

Its the same on twitter or pretty much anywhere - you are more likely to be overwhelmed by people saying stuff like "Its PC gone mad" - in reality its one woman voicing a stupid opinion with very little support and suddenly people feel the sky is falling - give me a break!

pkvader

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

the state of your man behind them:o

Ha!, this guy should be the focus of the video,for crimes against fashion!.

NoviGlitzko

What a racist idiot. I hate the way there is double standards with white and black people in society. If this was the other way around it would make international headlines.

Sgt Hartman

NoviGlitzko wrote: »

What a racist idiot. I hate the way there is double standards with white and black people in society. If this was the other way around it would make international headlines.

This poison has become rampant in colleges throughout the USA. Apparently, according to their warped logic, white people are at the top of the so-called "priviledge" scale in society so therefore it's impossiblle to be racist against them. This type of sh!te is slowly creeping into institutions here also.

lawlolawl

StupidLikeAFox wrote: »

Tbh I find the outrage over "PC" stuff worse.

This video is a prime example. You have some idiot make some idiotic point that white men shouldn't have dreadlocks. Nobody agrees with her, yet you have people falling over themselves to be outraged *at* her.

Its the same on twitter or pretty much anywhere - you are more likely to be overwhelmed by people saying stuff like "Its PC gone mad" - in reality its one woman voicing a stupid opinion with very little support and suddenly people feel the sky is falling - give me a break!

You opinion is becoming more prevalent now that people are starting to realise that minorities can be just as racist and bigoted as the big bad white male.

It was a huge deal in the past but now that everyone sees that every group is just as capable and as bad as the others it's: "just some fool, who cares?".

Shenshen

Potatoeman wrote: »

The 'your rights end where my feelings begin' answer. It's very shortsighted and can be used against the same people that use it.

When did politeness or PC become a right?
You still have the right to say what you like, and other people have the right to call you rude or un-PC for it.
If you're that thick-skinned, why take offense at that?

LDN_Irish

NoviGlitzko wrote: »

What a racist idiot. I hate the way there is double standards with white and black people in society. If this was the other way around it would make international headlines.

Yeah, and yet when it's this way around it made international headlines. It's so unfair.

http://www.independent.co.uk/student/news/black-san-francisco-student-filmed-harassing-white-student-because-of-his-dreadlocks-in-cultural-a6959181.html

Dyr

Her culture?

The spartans, those slave owning, war mongering white devil europeans wore dreadlocks

The Africans Rastafarians didn't pick up on em till this century

One thing worse than a self righteous c**t is a self righteous c**t who didn't even bother checking her facts.

The Backwards Man

It's very easy to judge a person that is obsessed by 'PC'and 'free speech'.

It's a lot more difficult for them to prove you wrong.

Dr Crayfish

Sgt Hartman wrote: »

This poison has become rampant in colleges throughout the USA. Apparently, according to their warped logic, white people are at the top of the so-called "priviledge" scale in society so therefore it's impossiblle to be racist against them. This type of sh!te is slowly creeping into institutions here also.

What are you talking about? Have you ever been to the USA? It's plainly obvious to see segregation amongst blacks and whites. In some cities it's just ridiculous. I was in parts of Indiana a couple of years ago and it was like I stumbled into South Africa.
I wouldn't blame black people in America for being angry with the establishment and the white man after all they've been through.

The Randy Riverbeast

StupidLikeAFox wrote: »

Tbh I find the outrage over "PC" stuff worse.

This video is a prime example. You have some idiot make some idiotic point that white men shouldn't have dreadlocks. Nobody agrees with her, yet you have people falling over themselves to be outraged *at* her.

Its the same on twitter or pretty much anywhere - you are more likely to be overwhelmed by people saying stuff like "Its PC gone mad" - in reality its one woman voicing a stupid opinion with very little support and suddenly people feel the sky is falling - give me a break!

It's like the horseshoe theory. These people get triggered at the thought of another person being what they view as PC and they get outraged. Like in this example it's an idiot who you'll find few people agreeing with. A member of the KKK saying something isn't racism gone mad, it's just a bunch of white supremacists that few people take seriously.

Potatoeman

Shenshen wrote: »

When did politeness or PC become a right?
You still have the right to say what you like, and other people have the right to call you rude or un-PC for it.
If you're that thick-skinned, why take offense at that?

It's the nonplatforming and shutting down of debate that seems to be growing around it that many people have issues with.

NoviGlitzko

LDN_Irish wrote: »

Yeah, and yet when it's this way around it made international headlines. It's so unfair.

http://www.independent.co.uk/student/news/black-san-francisco-student-filmed-harassing-white-student-because-of-his-dreadlocks-in-cultural-a6959181.html

Thanks, I missed that. Appreciate the sarcasm.

Main point still stands.

Shenshen

Potatoeman wrote: »

It's the nonplatforming and shutting down of debate that seems to be growing around it that many people have issues with.

Considering that the video you linked cause quite some outrage, with a large number of people voicing their disagreement with the lady online, how exactly would you define "shutting down of debate"?

Speedwell

Potatoeman wrote: »

The 'your rights end where my feelings begin' answer. It's very shortsighted and can be used against the same people that use it.

Really, I can't see where you object to "people should be kind and tolerant toward each other" or where you got a mean thing like that shortsighted, unkind, intolerant statement out of it.

Little CuChulainn

It's gone pretty crazy ion the U.S. Racial equality groups have started demanded safe spaces in universities where people of colour don't have to worry about seeing a white person that might be racist. That's right, segregation is now the new equality. They've also redefined the word racist so that it only applies to white people. It's gone so bad that groups are turning on each other. Trans people are turning on the gay community because they are more accepted in todays society. Black women are turning on white women in feminist groups because they have it much harder than a white person.

LDN_Irish

NoviGlitzko wrote: »

Thanks, I missed that. Appreciate the sarcasm.

Main point still stands.

What's the double standard you alluded to in your main point? The tiny amount of people (mostly in the US) who have tried to redefine racism so that ethnic minorities can't be racist? I find that irritating too. But for a sense of perspective, they are a statistically tiny amount of people and it really doesn't affect us here in Ireland at all. If a black person attacks you for being white they will be charged with a racially motivated attack the exact same way as if the situation was reversed. If you go for a job and are discriminated against for being white, you will be afforded the same protection as if the situation is reversed.

So it's not like any of us are actually suffering from this double standard.

Turtyturd

My OH told me about an interview where Will.i.am referred to himself as the 'black Tony Stark', he needs to stop appropriating our white fictional characters.

Speedwell

Even in the US, racism is something done by a person belonging to a privileged race to a person who is not of the privileged race. The condition of privilege is intrinsic to the definition of racism, sexism, and so forth. A person of less or no privilege acting badly to a person of higher privilege is still being unkind and intolerant, but it is not strictly speaking what is thought of when knowledgeable and educated people use the term "racism".

Potatoeman

Shenshen wrote: »

Considering that the video you linked cause quite some outrage, with a large number of people voicing their disagreement with the lady online, how exactly would you define "shutting down of debate"?

That's in the wider context. In this case its telling people how they can style their hair.

LDN_Irish

Speedwell wrote: »

Even in the US, racism is something done by a person belonging to a privileged race to a person who is not of the privileged race. The condition of privilege is intrinsic to the definition of racism, sexism, and so forth. A person of less or no privilege acting badly to a person of higher privilege is still being unkind and intolerant, but it is not strictly speaking what is thought of when knowledgeable and educated people use the term "racism".

Overeducated people maybe. I'd wager if you asked "can ethnic minorities be racist towards the dominant group in society?" With a poll on any mainstream forum across Europe or even the US, the vast majority of peolle would select "yes." It's a ridiculous redefinition that increases division in society and actually gives people something to point at and say "it's one rule for them and another for us." It has no positive purpose.

Speedwell

LDN_Irish wrote: »

Overeducated people maybe. I'd wager if you asked "can ethnic minorities be racist towards the dominant group in society?" With a poll on any mainstream forum across Europe or even the US, the vast majority of peolle would select "yes." It's a ridiculous redefinition that increases division in society and actually gives people something to point at and say "it's one rule for them and another for us." It has no positive purpose.

Who calls people "overeducated"? Oh, right.

If polls changed the meaning of things, the dictionary and the law code would be Wikis.

e_e

I don't think PC has gone far enough tbh. Sure we have 4K, virtual reality and some crazy multi-monitor setups but the sky's the limit tbh.

NoviGlitzko

LDN_Irish wrote: »

So it's not like any of us are actually suffering from this double standard.

So what if I'm not? Does that not entitle me to an opinion? I see it plenty online, in music, & sometimes in news. This is probably (I'm not sure) the only time I've seen a news story about black on white racism. I can't recall the stories over the years but this has certainly not been an isolated incident. Remember rap back in the 80's & 90's? African-Americans could talk about killing white people without any repercussions because of bygone times.

True it is a very small minority, and thankfully I haven't seen it in this country.

Little CuChulainn

Speedwell wrote: »

Even in the US, racism is something done by a person belonging to a privileged race to a person who is not of the privileged race. The condition of privilege is intrinsic to the definition of racism, sexism, and so forth. A person of less or no privilege acting badly to a person of higher privilege is still being unkind and intolerant, but it is not strictly speaking what is thought of when knowledgeable and educated people use the term "racism".

Who decides who has the greater privilege?

smash

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

Who decides who has the greater privilege?

The delusional

Red King

There is far too much pandering to vocal minority groups with "special snowflake" syndrome who want to divide up the world into "safe spaces" and "judgement free zones".

This movement along with the believe that everyone has a right to not be offended is resulting in widespread censorship of speech and indeed self censorship out of fear of being accused of all manner of daft things.

It is a kind of fascism that is rampaging out of control on university campuses in the US and increasingly spreading over here.

These people should be ignored.