Has the movie industry ran out of new material?

Alf Stewart.

Took the Mrs and the kids on an outing today, we all set of in the family ute to the local drive in movies.

"The Jungle Book" was today's chosen movie, and having seen the original 1967 version a fair few times, I was pleased to see the blokes in Disney didn't screw around with the original concept or story line too much.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it, right?

However, it dawned on me later, sitting down to some Tucker with the family, the whole movie experience today was built on something that was already done in the past.

Not complaining mind you, we knew well in advance that jungle book was today's theme, but it was even the trailers for upcoming movies that made me realise (if a few hours later mind you)

Today's trailers were, in more or less the order they were shown.

Tarzan. Yep, Disney are doing a remake, looked to me to be very similar to the jungle book, human actors with lots of cgi.

Robinson Crusoe. Animated movie, been done to death.

Top Cat. Used to love this on me Saturday mornings as a bit. Looks like they've went and done a modern, computer animation version, they seem to have strayed from the traditional "cartoon style" I did, and still love to this day, TC and officer Dibble are now computer generated figures. Not sure how I feel about that.

The BFG. Big fan of Roald Dahl, read all his books as a nipper, this is a remake, but the trailer looked amazing, even if I have to go alone, I'm gonna see that movie.

Anyway, what you think?

Has the movie industry ran out of ideas, or are they sticking with a tried an tested strategy?

The_Valeyard

Of course not......


Now looking forward to the independence day, x-men, star trek, iron man & Lego sequels.

Alf Stewart.

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Of course not......


Now looking forward to the independence day, x-men, star trek, iron man & Lego sequels.

Titanic two is out in June.

maudgonner

It's divided into two extremes (moreso now than ever) - low-budget and high-budget.

High-budgets are so high that they can't take too big of a risk, so they'll go with something that has a built-in audience and will guarantee that it won't be a total flop. Remakes, spin-offs etc.

Low-budget movies are made for buttons, so they can afford to be much braver/more extreme. But not many people go see them.

Mid-budget movies have been completely squeezed out, unfortunately. Those would be the kind I'd naturally gravitate towards. That kind of story is now told on tv instead, and many of the people who made those movies are now working on series for HBO, AMC, Amazon Prime, Netflix etc.

There are only seven basic plots so it was bound to happen. There are only so many fresh variations on a theme you can have.

I'm looking forward to a musical version of Mean Terminator Star Wars Girls, though I'm sure even that will feel like a rehash.

riffmongous

I'd say it's more likely they have just gotten lazy and as long as these remakes keep making a profit it's easier to just keep churning them out.

The_Valeyard

Alf Stewart. wrote: »

Titanic two is out in June.

This time, it's personal!!

kneemos

Should be a maximum time limit of two hours on all movies . It's a bloody commitment to watch some of them.

The_Valeyard

kneemos wrote: »

Should be a maximum time limit of two hours on all movies . It's a bloody commitment to watch some of them.

Nah, no way Martin Scorsese could make a movie then.

Alf Stewart.

The_Valeyard wrote: »

This time, it's personal!!

Another Rising!

Hande hoche!

So many Spidermans.

The_Valeyard

Alf Stewart. wrote: »

Another Rising!

The Iceberg family avenge their brother who was murdered by a human iron floaty thinge.

My name is URL

Has the movie industry ran out of new material?

Not really.. there are probably more ideas and material to work off now than ever before. There are vaults full of scripts and new material waiting to be read. Distributors and production companies have already bought them.

Why would they want to break the billion dollar cycle of releasing superhero movies and emotionless Jennifer Lawrence performances, though?

Fox_In_Socks

In a time when movies were repetitive and picked on the same themes, one man had a vision to be different. He saw the future, a future that was dark and hopeless, a future without originality. Now, from the producer of The Hero with a Thousand Faces and The Seven Basic Plots, comes a new meta-film, involving heros, antagonists, plots, journeys and final resolutions...

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The Sidewards Man

Home and Away should do a movie.

the evasion_kid

The film industry has gone like the music Industry...just pump out production line,fast food for the masses..

The Backwards Man

Plenty of culchie movies to be made yet

quickbeam

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Nah, no way Martin Scorsese could make a movie then.

Another plus for the rule.

jacksie66

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Harry Palmr

Hollywood is now in thrall to Chinese teenagers.

the groutch

the evasion_kid wrote: »

The film industry has gone like the music Industry...just pump out production line,fast food for the masses..

Gaming industry isn't any better, churning out the same Call of Doody/Fifa/Generic mobile FTP games.

mzungu

Candie wrote: »

There are only seven basic plots so it was bound to happen. There are only so many fresh variations on a theme you can have.

I'm looking forward to a musical version of Mean Terminator Star Wars Girls, though I'm sure even that will feel like a rehash.

Could be on to something there with the hybrids. Hmm, how about Gone with the Matrix? A southern dame has to take up arms against the machines, whilst also trying to win the love of the boy next door Rhett.

This stuff writes itself really!

Chain Smoker

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Plenty of culchie movies to be made yet

Rural Ireland is extremely fertile ground!

It's got tons of potential as an area for fresh film ideas too (infinitely more than Dublin but at the same time I don't want to see dubliners attempting to make films about people from Donegal and most of Irelands filmmakers are gonna be from there).

the evasion_kid

the groutch wrote: »

Gaming industry isn't any better, churning out the same Call of Doody/Fifa/Generic mobile FTP games.

My mates hate when I knock down and they are watching some new release film...I do nothing but rip the p!ss out of it until they can't take it seriously..

shane9689

This thread annoys me... Stupid question. Like asking have we ran out of music or nooks or paintings... We certainly havent or ever will. Its just that hollywood is in the business of making money so ofcourse theyll repeat the same **** over and over..because as evident from your post. Youll keep going... Independent productions will always be more unique (although not nessarily better).

johnnyskeleton

The new ghostbusters is criticised for being too much of a departure from the originals by having an all female cast, and also criticised for following the script too closely.

So you cant win no matter what you do.

I propose an English version with better spell check:

Well I am not afraid of any of those ghosts; nor am I likely to be afraid of any other ghost that I have been hitherto unaware of.

FizzleSticks

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Chain Smoker

FizzleSticks wrote: »

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Such as?

JustTheOne

Just don't make classics anymore like

planes trains
trading places
national lampoons, parenthood
Bruce's millions
big
home alone etc

You know real classics that stand the test of time.

It's ****e nowadays.

ancapailldorcha

Movie industry? Possibly. Not quite but possibly. Movie makers as a whole? No. There are film-makers outside Hollywood. Look them up.

Sonics2k

Alf Stewart. wrote: »

Titanic two is out in June.

Fun fact, Titanic 2 actually came out in 2010.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1640571/

valoren

JustTheOne wrote: »

Just don't make classics anymore like

planes trains
trading places
national lampoons, parenthood
Bruce's millions
big
home alone etc

You know real classics that stand the test of time.

It's ****e nowadays.

I thought about this recently.

To me standing the test of time is a personal reaction, where you still enjoy the same film no matter what age you are.

You wouldn't be criticising the acting, plot holes, the ageing effects or the shoddy dialogue etc. It's the innocence of youth I guess. You would go and see Home Alone for example as a kid and absolutely love it. On the other hand, someone your age now probably went to see it back then and came away feeling like "Meh!". :pac:

smash

You forgot about all the other original stuff that's coming out over the next 18 months...

Another DC Movie (Suicide Squad)
Another Marvel Movie (captain america 3)
Another Marvel Movie (X-Men 7)
Another Marvel Movie (Doctor Strange)
Another Marvel Movie (Gambit)
Another Marvel Movie (Thor 3)
Another Marvel Movie (Wolverine 3)
Another Marvel Movie (Spider-Man)
Another Star Wars
Another turtles movie
Another Pirates of the Caribbean
Another Planet of the Apes
Another Star Trek movie
Another Bourne movie
Jumanji remake
Ghostbusters remake
Jack Reacher 2
Independence Day 2
Fast and furious 8
Guardians of the Galaxy 2
Wonder Woman
Transformers 5


Oh, wait...

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Hollywood ran out of new ideas ages ago! Some time round about the mid 90s would be a guess.

valoren

Hollywood jumped the shark with The Amazing Spiderman in 2012.
A mere 10 years after the 2002 Sam Raimi version, the 'suits' decided that a re-boot was needed.

If we have to see Peter Parker 'discovering' his new super powers all over again in the near future, then it will be the final nail in the coffin.

smash

valoren wrote: »

A mere 10 years after the 2002 Sam Raimi version, the 'suits' decided that a re-boot was needed.

It still wasn't as bad as 2003's version of the Hulk.

valoren

smash wrote: »

It still wasn't as bad as 2003's version of the Hulk.

It had it's failure's (rushed CGI, Nick Nolte totally miscast, poor pacing) but it had some interesting psychological ideas as a comic book movie. An interesting failure for me.

riclad

They are making movies on tv shows from the ninetys ,and the 80s ,
Its much easier to make action scifi films now ,
with cgi and powerful visual effects made on computers .
A modern pc is 10 times faster than a pc from the 90,s .
Its much easier to raise 50 million for a movie like star trek than
make a film based on a new idea .
EG Star wars , transformers are full of action scenes and special effects ,
any one all over the world can understand the plot.
Theres loads of indie films being made which will not be shown in your local cinema .
Movie studios own the rights to xmen ,spiderman ,star wars ,
So they will make movies and sequels as long as people wish to see them.
Most cinemas show action films or blockbusters to appeal to the widest audience .

i would like to see more back to the future films if the script was good with a good cast .
go to a bookshop theres loads of awful books there ,thrillers ,romance ,
That have no literary value ,
And theres great novels and books that have cultural value .And theres loads of awful tv programs being made, eg emmerdale, geordie shore .
IF you want to find good films read reviews ,
You have to choose to look for quality tv and films .

ScumLord

They're remaking memento. It makes no sense to remake that film.

quickbeam

mzungu wrote: »

Could be on to something there with the hybrids. Hmm, how about Gone with the Matrix? A southern dame has to take up arms against the machines, whilst also trying to win the love of the boy next door Rhett.

This stuff writes itself really!

Oh, oh, oh!! I got one, how about Pride & Prejudice ... and Zombies.













Oh wait....

quickbeam

ScumLord wrote: »

They're remaking memento. It makes no sense to remake that film.

Really? That's awful news.

Capt'n Midnight

Candie wrote: »

There are only seven basic plots so it was bound to happen. There are only so many fresh variations on a theme you can have.

Actually they've trimmed it down to just one plot namely Save The Cat.




But as to the topics. It's remakes, sequels and films of very successful (comic)books that already have a mass market. Safe stuff with a proven track record.


Now that Disney own Star Wars they'll be churning out annually , forever. Just look at Wookiepedia or the sheer number of books , there's no shortage of plots.

Badly Drunk Boy

Sonics2k wrote: »

Fun fact, Titanic 2 actually came out in 2010.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1640571/

I watched that one night when I was sick in two ways (one self-inflicted) and I was too weak to turn off the Syfy Channel.

I survived the ordeal (and the sickness didn't last too long either).

For Forks Sake

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Plenty of culchie movies to be made yet

Time for a Fatal Deviation reboot.

smash

ScumLord wrote: »

They're remaking memento. It makes no sense to remake that film.

Ah now they can just feck off!

Agricola

valoren wrote: »

Hollywood jumped the shark with The Amazing Spiderman in 2012.
A mere 10 years after the 2002 Sam Raimi version, the 'suits' decided that a re-boot was needed.

If we have to see Peter Parker 'discovering' his new super powers all over again in the near future, then it will be the final nail in the coffin.

Yep its awful, but as with everything these days the reasoning is purely profit related. There's a demographic for those films and the thinking is that a new generation of teenagers are now around who can see it for the first time at the cinema.
I would'nt be at all surprised if we start seeing a 10 year turn around on more franchise reboots.

Maireadio

Hollywood is risk-averse. Creativity hasn't dried up, it's just not getting a chance.

Mister Vain

Alf Stewart. wrote: »

Titanic two is out in June.

It has already been done.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rYX4wB_v04

stoplooklisten

Yes and so have TV. I don't mind Top cAt being brought back, but if I have to watch and more mind melting dragon ****ing crap, I'll smash my TV

Maireadio

kneemos wrote: »

Should be a maximum time limit of two hours on all movies . It's a bloody commitment to watch some of them.

That depends. Some three hour films, you feel every minute, and some fly by.

learn_more

Watched "The Martain" last week, one of the top 5 movies at the Oscars this year. Appalling movie, made Apollo 13 look good.