Man sues ex-fiancée for $30,000 engagement ring

Mesrine65

Sleepy wrote: »

I'd be pretty sure that, legally speaking, your ex owes you 5k.

Small price to pay, well rid of

speedboatchase

highgiant1985 wrote: »

you let him have a man cave.... :eek: you're a keeper! :pac:

Slightly off-topic here but 'let him', 'mancave'? Can people just be adults and give each other space to explore one another's hobbies, without that kind of condescending nonsense

Avatar MIA

speedboatchase wrote: »

Slightly off-topic here but 'let him', 'mancave'? Can people just be adults and give each other space to explore one another's hobbies, without that kind of condescending nonsense

Let it all out, man. Just let it out.

kunst nugget

speedboatchase wrote: »

Slightly off-topic here but 'let him', 'mancave'? Can people just be adults and give each other space to explore one another's hobbies, without that kind of condescending nonsense<script id="gpt-impl-0.6854055619332939" src="http://partner.googleadservices.com/gpt/pubads_impl_84.js"></script&gt;

Ah, the trusty man cave or as I like to call it, the future nursery.

speedboatchase

kunst nugget wrote: »

Ah, the trusty man cave or as I like to call it, the future nursery.

Make sure it has a pirate flag and a big 'NO GIRLZ ALLOWED' sign.

um7y1h83ge06nx

speedboatchase wrote: »

Make sure it has a pirate flag and a big 'NO GIRLZ ALLOWED' sign.

This would be my choice:

kunst nugget

speedboatchase wrote: »

Make sure it has a pirate flag and a big 'NO GIRLZ ALLOWED' sign.

Any man cave I've seen in a couple's house always looks like a woman's version of a man cave. There's never a box of tissues or an old gym sock in any of them, there's always a shelf full of action or superhero DVDs with nary a bit of a porn and a faux leather recliner where the man can go to silently weep for his lost youth and independence.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

His has his Xbox and his engagement tv, and a chair with some sort of speakers that belongs to one of his consoles, PlayStation, laptop that's probably riddled with porn. I don't care. Keeps him out of my way and keeps the tv free, keeps the house clean. And I have a room for my makeup and my clothes and all the stuff he would prefer I didn't clutter up our bedroom with. It works for us

Butters1979

Mesrine65 wrote: »

I bought my ex a stone for her engagement ring when I was overseas & we went to Antwerp for a romantic weekend to get it set, cost about £5K in total.

Fast forward 18 months...

We were having an argument while crossing O'Connell bridge one evening & I told her to fuck off I'm done arguing in public, cue a big dramatic gesture on her behalf...

She whips off the engagement & flings it at me, I duck & the ring goes into the Liffey :pac::pac::pac:

The look on her face...priceless :eek:

:eek:
When i read this I was in a bit of shock for about a minute, then did a coffee spit all over the keyboard laughing.
Why did you duck? Was it so big it was going to hurt you?

I think the whole engagement ring tradition and the 3 months salary came from the idea of financial security. Basically if a couple fall on hard times they can sell the ring. That was back in the old days.

I paid a lot for my wife's engagement ring, and in fairness she still talks about how much she loves it (she doesn't know how much it cost). But thinking about that now, the money came from my savings and after we married we pooled our finances and savings (we both work), bought a house with our savings as deposit. So you could argue she paid half of it retroactively.

Mesrine65

Butters1979 wrote: »

:eek:
When i read this I was in a bit of shock for about a minute, then did a coffee spit all over the keyboard laughing.
Why did you duck? Was it so big it was going to hurt you?

Instinct :cool:

Butters1979

Mesrine65 wrote: »

Instinct :cool:

Ha. You move like they do !

byronbay2

Mesrine65 wrote: »

I bought my ex a stone for her engagement ring when I was overseas & we went to Antwerp for a romantic weekend to get it set, cost about £5K in total.

Fast forward 18 months...

We were having an argument while crossing O'Connell bridge one evening & I told her to fuck off I'm done arguing in public, cue a big dramatic gesture on her behalf...

She whips off the engagement & flings it at me, I duck & the ring goes into the Liffey :pac::pac::pac:

The look on her face...priceless :eek:

Not priceless: £5K!

That is funny, though.

Cookie_Monster

Hans Bricks wrote: »

I think I've said it here before. I just can't wrap my head around the value people place on shiny rocks dug from the ground by some half starved peasant in West Africa.

especially when perfect ones can be produced artificially! Not that they are allowed use these for jewellery

Galwayguy35

Anyone who throws a 5k ring in a river deserves to be thrown in after it.

Wibbs

Butters1979 wrote: »

I think the whole engagement ring tradition and the 3 months salary came from the idea of financial security. Basically if a couple fall on hard times they can sell the ring. That was back in the old days.

Nope, it's entirely the invention and advertising of the DeBeers diamond company. There was no real tradition of an engagement ring before they came up with it, back in the 1930's IIRC. They came up with "diamonds are a girl's best friend" and "diamonds are forever" too. The latter was to stop people trying to sell them secondhand as they're essentially worthless, or have precious little value. Unless you've a large or unusual stone diamonds are two a penny. They control the market so they only release them in dribs and drabs. There are enough diamonds mined each year to fill a coffee cup for every American. The "blood diamond" stuff is as much about the big boys not liking grey market stuff they don't control.

Oh and the three months salary thing used to be two, five in Japan IIRC. Set at a level at what they reckoned the average working Joe could afford and a level the average Josephine would think enough for her. A diamond engagement ring is basically a very expensive Hallmark card and the only real intrinsic value is in the precious metal(if any) it's set in. /Killjoy. :P:pac:

Paz-CCFC

Wibbs wrote: »

Oh and the three months salary thing used to be two, five in Japan IIRC. Set at a level at what they reckoned the average working Joe could afford and a level the average Josephine would think enough for her. A diamond engagement ring is basically a very expensive Hallmark card and the only real intrinsic value is in the precious metal(if any) it's set in. /Killjoy. :P:pac:

Used to be one month before that, too. Profits were falling for various reasons, so they found the best way to help was just to change the advertising to two months. I can't fathom how it worked, no one seemed bothered that the "perfect amount" just doubled! I didn't even realise that the "tradition" had gone up to three. Who the f*ck in their right mind spends a quarter of their salary on a stone? The way we're going, people will be taking out mortgages to buy wedding rings instead of houses.

Penny Dreadful

blinding wrote: »

Seriously though is it worth it .

If you could afford it would you be better off getting a personal assistant (male/ female)

In the future you may be able to get a hot sexbot and that should be more straight forward than dealing with your average female.:eek:

Or your average male.;)

Also as you wait and wait for your "hot sexbot" life goes on and you may (shock horror) find that you're missing out on an equal loving mature relationship with someone else.
Also, the person you marry isn't average to you. They're really important and special. You're very own sexbot if you will.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

I can't speak for all females but I would imagine a lot of women would be livid with their man for spending basically 1/4 of his salary on a piece of jewellery. I would personally be fuming. I'd rather tile the bathroom or change the units in the kitchen.

Boom_Bap

LexieOnRale wrote: »

I can't speak for all females but I would imagine a lot of women would be livid with their man for spending basically 1/4 of his salary on a piece of jewellery. I would personally be fuming. I'd rather tile the bathroom or change the units in the kitchen.

I didn't even get my partner a ring. Been engaged for about 5 years now as well. I think she might have forgotten.

melissak

Wibbs wrote: »

Nope, it's entirely the invention and advertising of the DeBeers diamond company. There was no real tradition of an engagement ring before they came up with it, back in the 1930's IIRC. They came up with "diamonds are a girl's best friend" and "diamonds are forever" too. The latter was to stop people trying to sell them secondhand as they're essentially worthless, or have precious little value. Unless you've a large or unusual stone diamonds are two a penny. They control the market so they only release them in dribs and drabs. There are enough diamonds mined each year to fill a coffee cup for every American. The "blood diamond" stuff is as much about the big boys not liking grey market stuff they don't control.

Oh and the three months salary thing used to be two, five in Japan IIRC. Set at a level at what they reckoned the average working Joe could afford and a level the average Josephine would think enough for her. A diamond engagement ring is basically a very expensive Hallmark card and the only real intrinsic value is in the precious metal(if any) it's set in. /Killjoy. :P:pac:

They are all pretty much all blood diamonds imo. The industry is rotten to the core. I Would break up with oh if he bought me one. He knows how I feel about diamonds

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

Boom_Bap wrote: »

I didn't even get my partner a ring. Been engaged for about 5 years now as well. I think she might have forgotten.

I didn't want a ring. I wanted shoes. He proposed with no ring. We got a token ring, because he didn't want to not have a ring. Though I was happy enough with the shoes. Never let it be said im high maintenance

kunst nugget

melissak wrote: »

They are all pretty much all blood diamonds imo. The industry is rotten to the core. I Would break up with oh if he bought me one. He knows how I feel about diamonds

I feel the same about blood oranges. If the missus bought me one that would be the end of us. They're rotten.

melissak

kunst nugget wrote: »

I feel the same about blood oranges. If the missus bought me one that would be the end of us. They're rotten.

They taste just the same as regular oranges. Had this argument with my daughter the other day!

Dave_The_Sheep

Boom_Bap wrote: »

I think she might have forgotten.

You might think that now, but...

BrokenArrows

Samaris wrote: »

.......

But fiance did give me a recurve bow for a birthday present and we joke that it's an engagement bow. If we broke it off, I don't think I'd be returning that :P

......

Depending on the reason for the breakup you might end up returning part of it. ie. One of the arrows!!

Boom_Bap

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

You might think that now, but...

She might have 'forgotten' so that she can make a clean getaway as well :pac:

Sam Kade

LexieOnRale wrote: »

I can't speak for all females but I would imagine a lot of women would be livid with their man for spending basically 1/4 of his salary on a piece of jewellery. I would personally be fuming. I'd rather tile the bathroom or change the units in the kitchen.

You don't know most females then.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

Sam Kade wrote: »

You don't know most females then.

Despite being actually female but sure what would that count for? You judge us on all the users you may know.

Malari

LexieOnRale wrote: »

I can't speak for all females but I would imagine a lot of women would be livid with their man for spending basically 1/4 of his salary on a piece of jewellery. I would personally be fuming. I'd rather tile the bathroom or change the units in the kitchen.

I think most couples I know had pretty much joint finances by the time they got engaged, so it was "their" money to spend on an engagement ring. I didn't bother with one, and we both got wedding rings instead.

Sam Kade

LexieOnRale wrote: »

Despite being actually female but sure what would that count for? You judge us on all the users you may know.

Most women are mad for money, I didn't mean to get you all riled up about it