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300 jobs lost in Dublin but nothing in the media about it???

  • 14-04-2016 10:14pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17


    Hi folks .

    Thought I would post this here. The xbox support call centre that was in Dublin gave notice to 300 workers on Monday that their role would cease to exist at the end of the month. Workers redundancy was two weeks per year and an xbox live subscription .

    I don't work for them honestly but I have a family member who does and it just irks me to see nothing about this in the new news.
    Am I just being petty or should job losses like be reported on national news ?

    Thank you.

    K


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    Surprised myself, when was it announced?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭Letree


    News media should be referred to as agenda media. They have their agenda and news comes 2nd.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭JustTheOne


    What's the reason?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,789 ✭✭✭Alf Stewart.


    Calm down, it's THREE HUNDRED.

    they should show up again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    KERSPLAT! wrote: »
    Surprised myself, when was it announced?

    A quick Google shows nothing at all. Have you a link??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭Mongfinder General


    Letree wrote: »
    News media should be referred to as agenda media. They have their agenda and news comes 2nd.

    Ssssh, don't you know that we have the best educated graduates on the planet and the economy is growing at 7% a year?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    I believe that was an outsourcing agency who were doing it. Its very likely they lost the contract but may have been limited in when they could disclose it to their staff. A lot of services business is setup like this in this country. I wouldn't recommend anyone to be working in a managed services scenario.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭JustTheOne


    Ssssh, don't you know that we have the best educated graduates on the planet and the economy is growing at 7% a year?

    This is bs.

    Every day there is doom and gloom on the news, homelessness health etc.

    I'm bloody sick of it and the left leaning media in this country.

    Would swear we live in North Africa most days.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    Maybe someone should tell the media? They don't know everything unless they get a tip or press release. I very much doubt there's an agenda as some seem to think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81 ✭✭yellow76


    Stream global services I think? Heard about it locally but can't find anything in media about it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 Dirtboxsniff


    KERSPLAT! wrote: »
    Surprised myself, when was it announced?

    On Monday . I tried to post a link but it won't let me yet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,749 ✭✭✭weisses


    JustTheOne wrote: »
    This is bs.

    Every day there is doom and gloom on the news, homelessness health etc.

    I'm bloody sick of it and the left leaning media in this country.

    Would swear we live in North Africa most days.

    I assume you were never in North Africa


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭JustTheOne


    weisses wrote: »
    I assume you were never in North Africa

    Well the way the media and the left parties talk about this country some days I think I am.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭Mongfinder General


    JustTheOne wrote: »
    Well the way the media and the left parties talk about this country some days I think I am.

    I never knew that Denis O'Brien is a socialist


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 217 ✭✭MacauDragon


    Camel for sale.

    No nct but will be grand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 Homlescow


    I believe that was an outsourcing agency who were doing it. Its very likely they lost the contract but may have been limited in when they could disclose it to their staff. A lot of services business is setup like this in this country. I wouldn't recommend anyone to be working in a managed services scenario.

    Most lightly, I'm a contractor myself & If my employer lost the contract I could be let go with a months notice, its pretty scary how may people are employed in this manner.

    Only type of contracts that are worse are zero hour...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,770 ✭✭✭The Randy Riverbeast


    Would be ironic if they had difficulty setting up their xbox live membership.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    tcahill wrote: »
    Most lightly, I'm a contractor myself & If my employer lost the contract I could be let go with a months notice, its pretty scary how may people are employed in this manner.

    Only type of contracts that are worse are zero hour...


    If you're a contractor in IT you're more than likely paid above the rate an employee would be so to compare it to being just above zero hour contracts is disingenuous. There's a lot of money to be made contracting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 Homlescow


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    If you're a contractor in IT you're more than likely paid above the rate an employee would be so to compare it to being just above zero hour contracts is disingenuous. There's a lot of money to be made contracting.

    Yep, contractor in IT, My pay isn't great but it isn't bad either tbh. I was more comparing on the basis of job security rather than pay.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    Yeah, hence the good renumeration to compensate. It can be a very good earner if you accept the job insecurity and rolling contracts. Everyone who does it are aware of it though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭entropi


    KERSPLAT! wrote: »
    A quick Google shows nothing at all. Have you a link??
    Here's the only link I could find Linky, but it hasn't been in media outlets at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 Dirtboxsniff


    Thank your for posting the link.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,740 ✭✭✭the evasion_kid


    Ssssh, don't you know that we have the best educated graduates on the planet and the economy is growing at 7% a year?

    Highly educated,versatile,flexibile, strong work ethic etc etc........that is until the company moves to Pakistan...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,007 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    Hi folks .

    Thought I would post this here. The xbox support call centre that was in Dublin gave notice to 300 workers on Monday that their role would cease to exist at the end of the month. Workers redundancy was two weeks per year and an xbox live subscription .

    I don't work for them honestly but I have a family member who does and it just irks me to see nothing about this in the new news.
    Am I just being petty or should job losses like be reported on national news ?

    Thank you.

    K
    How many full time staff were there? Where was the call centre ? Anywhere near Dublin and the office won't be empty to long and probably filled with high value jobs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭OttoPilot


    I honestly don't know what sf expect from that link.
    More specifically, I am asking the Minister to intervene and seek another company to take this over as a going concern and for him to do all in his power to ensure that these vital jobs are saved.

    Why would another company take over 300 jobs with no work for them to do? The contract was lost...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭aphex™


    Did you actually email RTE?

    I emailed them about a place closing down in a similar situation and they got the story out the same day.

    People don't necessarily put out a press release about firing 300 people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    If you're a contractor in IT you're more than likely paid above the rate an employee would be so to compare it to being just above zero hour contracts is disingenuous. There's a lot of money to be made contracting.

    For every IT contractor who is on big money there are three or four on really crap money, without holiday pay, and without other benefits. My girlfriend can't even get a tax saver bus ticket because it was considered a loophole and got closed a couple of years ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,007 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    syklops wrote: »
    For every IT contractor who is on big money there are three or four on really crap money, without holiday pay, and without other benefits. My girlfriend can't even get a tax saver bus ticket because it was considered a loophole and got closed a couple of years ago.
    If there not getting holiday pay then they are a contractor, I've yet to meet an contractor on less than 350 a day


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    ted1 wrote: »
    If there not getting holiday pay then they are a contractor, I've yet to meet an contractor on less than 350 a day

    I can introduce you to several. One of them my partner.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 726 ✭✭✭RIGHTisRIGHT


    Toilet paper has many more uses then your typical newspaper.
    Toilet paper can clean crap unlike your average newspaper that is just full of crap.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 726 ✭✭✭RIGHTisRIGHT


    Hi folks .

    Thought I would post this here. The xbox support call centre that was in Dublin gave notice to 300 workers on Monday that their role would cease to exist at the end of the month. Workers redundancy was two weeks per year and an xbox live subscription .

    I don't work for them honestly but I have a family member who does and it just irks me to see nothing about this in the new news.
    Am I just being petty or should job losses like be reported on national news ?

    Thank you.

    K
    insensitive or what not even an Xbox:rolleyes:.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭Duiske


    I'm sure the Independant will report on the job losses in the next day or 2. Seems they're a bit busy at the moment working on an exclusive about some guy getting a dirty look from another fella who's best mates bird is Mary Lou McDonalds 3rd cousin.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,770 ✭✭✭The Randy Riverbeast


    Duiske wrote: »
    I'm sure the Independant will report on the job losses in the next day or 2. Seems they're a bit busy at the moment working on an exclusive about some guy getting a dirty look from another fella who's best mates bird is Mary Lou McDonalds 3rd cousin.

    I can see the headline already "Sinn Fein causes 300 job losses"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    More specifically, I am asking the Minister to intervene and seek another company to take this over as a going concern and for him to do all in his power to ensure that these vital jobs are saved.
    To me, this sounds like they haven't a clue what jobs are going, and just want to throw out soundbites.

    =-=

    http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/paddy-power-betfair-to-cut-650-jobs-300-in-ireland-following-merger-728290.html
    Paddy Power are also letting 300 people go, it would seem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,007 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    syklops wrote: »
    I can introduce you to several. One of them my partner.

    What does she do ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,639 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Ssssh, don't you know that we have the best educated graduates on the planet and the economy is growing at 7% a year?

    You do realise that stuff like this happens all the time with major corporations and is not a reflection of the economy or government?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    JustTheOne wrote: »
    What's the reason?

    Sony PS4 outselling the Xbox One by 3 to 1 might have something to do with it. And alot of gamers have jumped ship from Xbox to Playstation over the past 2 years.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    ted1 wrote: »
    If there not getting holiday pay then they are a contractor, I've yet to meet an contractor on less than 350 a day

    You're not looking hard enough.

    I know plenty of 'IT Contractors' that are essentially on the same pay as the full-time staff without any of the perks. More and more junior support/helpdesk staff find themselves accepting 'contractor' positions for managed service contracts of limited duration with no hint of being paid what you would call 'contractor' rates.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 Homlescow


    Graham wrote: »
    You're not looking hard enough.

    I know plenty of 'IT Contractors' that are essentially on the same pay as the full-time staff without any of the perks. More and more junior support/helpdesk staff find themselves accepting 'contractor' positions for managed service contracts of limited duration with no hint of being paid what you would call 'contractor' rates.

    Graham wrote: »
    You're not looking hard enough.

    I know plenty of 'IT Contractors' that are essentially on the same pay as the full-time staff without any of the perks. More and more junior support/helpdesk staff find themselves accepting 'contractor' positions for managed service contracts of limited duration with no hint of being paid what you would call 'contractor' rates.

    An example for you - the PRTB help desk are all contractors they are on 19k a year
    Loads of state services are operated on a low paid contractor basis


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    ted1 wrote: »
    What does she do ?

    She works in the IT department of a financial company.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    tcahill wrote: »
    Loads of state services are operated on a low paid contractor basis

    What makes it even more bizarre is a collection of these almost minimum wage contractors could be reported in the press as XYZ state-service spending millions on consultants.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 Homlescow


    Graham wrote: »
    What makes it even more bizarre is a collection of these almost minimum wage contractors could be reported in the press as XYZ state-service spending millions on consultants.

    Yep, its hard to get a grasp of what is realy going on in the background now days, I use the PRTB as an example as I used to be one of their phone agents, the interesting thing is that it was split in to two contracts, the first for the Call Centre and Administration & the second was the Dispute Resloution Centre(Tribunals , Adjudications & Mediations)

    In the Call Centre we had basicly no contact with the Resolution Centre - it allways felt like there was somthing fishy going on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,032 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    You need to put on the green jersey


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    Graham wrote: »
    You're not looking hard enough.

    I know plenty of 'IT Contractors' that are essentially on the same pay as the full-time staff without any of the perks. More and more junior support/helpdesk staff find themselves accepting 'contractor' positions for managed service contracts of limited duration with no hint of being paid what you would call 'contractor' rates.

    Well, until people stop accepting these jobs, the companies will continue to push the boundaries of what is your 'job' and how secure it is. I would rather sit on me arse on the dole than take up one of them roles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭matchthis


    Could they make a movie? Somethin like a 300 and the full monty mash up?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    I hear there might be some tram driving jobs becoming available soon.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    JustTheOne wrote: »
    This is bs.

    Every day there is doom and gloom on the news, homelessness health etc.

    I'm bloody sick of it and the left leaning media in this country.

    Would swear we live in North Africa most days.

    The news media in Ireland is not left leaning in my opinion, but then again neither are any of the political parties (barring perhaps the SDs, but they've only really popped up since I've been gone so somewhat unfamiliar with them). The people parading in Ireland as left wingers are anti-tax, magic money tree types... in other words, wolves in sheeps clothing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭recylingbin


    Heard about this during the week.

    The reality is that 'it' being on the news makes no difference.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,639 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Sony PS4 outselling the Xbox One by 3 to 1 might have something to do with it. And alot of gamers have jumped ship from Xbox to Playstation over the past 2 years.

    Can you back up those figures?

    XB One had a bad start but was doing well in the last yearl

    Also Xbox live now has 48 million subscribers which is a big increase.
    Link

    I just think it's a commercial/contractual decusion rather than an indication of Xbox not doing well.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    TallGlass wrote: »
    I would rather sit on me arse on the dole than take up one of them roles.

    Isn't it a nice world that you could make such a choice.


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