Glasnevin Cemetery Monument.

kneemos

A monument naming all of those killed in The Rising, including British soldiers has been erected in Galsnevin. Apparently some of our comrades have deemed it inappropriate and decided to have a wee protest.
Seems fitting to me especially given some British soldiers are buried there.
What are the thoughts on the monument?

Dyr

Presumably we'll see a similar job being erected up in Islandbridge

Will we f**k. Embarrassing stuff.

Falthyron

I am more interested in knowing which Premier League team jersey the teenager had on while he was attempting to burn the Union Jack and whether or not his sovereign rings affected his ability to use a lighter. I love a bit of hypocrisy.

uck51js9zml2yt

Which part is it in.

No doubt there will be an act of vandalism soon.

The flying mouse

A 'Remembrance Wall' showing the names of all those who died during the Easter Rising has been unveiled at Glasnevin Cemetery in Dublin.

The memorial wall bears the names of all those who died in the rebellion 100 years ago, Irish and British, military and civilian, attracting some controversy.

The names are displayed chronologically without distinction between the different categories.

The Glasnevin Trust has insisted the memorial is an attempt to present the historical facts, without hierarchy or judgement.

Chairman of Glasnevin Trust John Green told the service the wall reflected modern Ireland.

The project has drawn inspiration from an international memorial near Arras in France that lists the names of 580,000 people killed in fighting on the western front in the First World War.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2016/0403/779141-1916-events/

It seems a nice idea...

Presume it's for the Glasnevin Trust to decide.

Yamanoto

Clowns & losers, this is good for a giggle...

But while efforts were made to set alight the Union Jack and to destroy it with bangers, the flag was too wet to catch fire.

Instead, it was discarded on the road and was walked on and kicked around for a period.

While the unveiling ceremony was taking place, one protestor played Irish rebel songs into a megaphone, apparently in the hope that those at the service some distance away would hear it.

davycc

im against it 100% cant believe glasnevin went through with that brain fart of wall..
has a whiff of FGs commonwealth ass kissing about it:pac:

the NGA are also against it and explained there reasoning a bit more dignified than my own

https://www.facebook.com/NationalGravesAssociation/
National Graves Association Opposes Glasnevin Necrology Wall

There has been a lot of controversy lately concerning the recent completion of The 1916 Necrology Wall in Glasnevin cemetery. The wall gives equal recognition to all those who died in the 1916 Rising including Irish Republicans, crown forces and civilians.
The National Graves Association has consistently stated our belief that all groups have a right to commemorate their dead, regardless of which side they are on. In doing so we have also fiercely defended our right, and the right of others, to fittingly commemorate and honour Irelands patriot dead of all generations.
We believe it is inappropriate that this wall gives equal recognition to the paid professional soldiers of the British Army and the selfless volunteers who fought for Irish Freedom.
The National Graves Association have made Glasnevin Trust aware of our opposition to the Wall.
N.G.A Chairman- Seán Whelan

endacl

Fitting and dignified.

super_furry

Comrades? They're braindead scumbags, trying and failing to burn flags and throwing fireworks at the Gardai.

uck51js9zml2yt

super_furry wrote: »

Comrades? They're braindead scumbags, trying and failing to burn flags and throwing fireworks at the Gardai.

Life would be very dull without the clowns

HeidiHeidi

davycc wrote: »

im against it 100% cant believe glasnevin went through with that brain fart of wall..
has a whiff of FGs commonwealth ass kissing about it:pac:

the NGA are also against it and explained there reasoning a bit more dignified than my own

https://www.facebook.com/NationalGravesAssociation/
National Graves Association Opposes Glasnevin Necrology Wall

There has been a lot of controversy lately concerning the recent completion of The 1916 Necrology Wall in Glasnevin cemetery. The wall gives equal recognition to all those who died in the 1916 Rising including Irish Republicans, crown forces and civilians.
The National Graves Association has consistently stated our belief that all groups have a right to commemorate their dead, regardless of which side they are on. In doing so we have also fiercely defended our right, and the right of others, to fittingly commemorate and honour Irelands patriot dead of all generations.
We believe it is inappropriate that this wall gives equal recognition to the paid professional soldiers of the British Army and the selfless volunteers who fought for Irish Freedom.
The National Graves Association have made Glasnevin Trust aware of our opposition to the Wall.
N.G.A Chairman- Seán Whelan

Nobody's denying anyone anything.

Glasnevin has just chosen to put up this monument. Anyone else can (well, presumably within reason and the planning laws) put up whatever monument(s) they like.

davycc

Vera Tasteless Quid wrote: »

Which part is it in.

No doubt there will be an act of vandalism soon.

fingers crossed some brave soul takes a chisel to it soon....

glasnevin management have the stupidity to say the wall represents modern ireland . well not in my name, or the 1916 families names:rolleyes:

davycc

davycc wrote: »

fingers crossed some brave soul takes a chisel to it soon....

glasnevin management have the stupidity to say the wall represents modern ireland . well not in my name, or the 1916 families names:rolleyes:

But you can erect a different wall on your land.

It's a matter for Glasnevin Trust to decide, and that's just that.

davycc

endacl

davycc wrote: »

^^^
All private citizens, with no more weight to their opinion than any of the rest of us.

davycc

Deleted User wrote: »

But you can erect a different wall on your land.

It's a matter for Glasnevin Trust to decide, and that's just that.

fair enough but its in such bad taste id like to FOI request on the minutes of whatever meeting they dreamt this up at

Timberrrrrrrr

davycc wrote: »

fingers crossed some brave soul takes a chisel to it soon....

glasnevin management have the stupidity to say the wall represents modern ireland . well not in my name, or the 1916 families names:rolleyes:

Advocating vandalism and criminal damage, Stay classy :rolleyes:

HeidiHeidi

davycc wrote: »

fair enough but IN MY OPINION its in such bad taste id like to FOI request on the minutes of whatever meeting they dreamt this up at

FYP for you there.

Not all of us think it's in bad taste.

And sure why don't you put in a FOI request?

endacl

davycc wrote: »

fair enough but its in such bad taste id like to FOI request on the minutes of whatever meeting they dreamt this up at

If you'd like to, do.

rsh118

Easy to forget large numbers of those British troops were Irish.

As someone with rellies on both sides (both WW2 and the rising) I think it shows our maturity as a nation that we REMEMBER (not celebrate) all those who died in conflicts they generally did not fully understand.

It is very easy to look back with hindsight and pick the 'winning' side, not so easy at the time.

Elemonator

I thought we had put this foolishness behind us. The centenary was also about forgiveness and going forward. Yes those soldiers fought on the opposing side, but they were also people and many of them were actually Irish too.

endacl

rsh118 wrote: »

Easy to forget large numbers of those British troops were Irish.

As someone with rellies on both sides (both WW2 and the rising) I think it shows our maturity as a nation that we REMEMBER (not celebrate) all those who died in conflicts they generally did not fully understand.

It is very easy to look back with hindsight and pick the 'winning' side, not so easy at the time.

Lots of people don't overthink complex questions. Lots of those who don't, can't.

buried

Substandard chinese black granite that's doused in oil over in China's quarries. It'll be grey within 5 years time.

endacl

buried wrote: »

Substandard chinese black granite that's doused in oil over in China's quarries. It'll be grey within 5 years time.

A great pity bitterness doesn't fade as quickly.

buried

endacl wrote: »

A great pity bitterness doesn't fade as quickly.

They should have used Irish stone and kept the recovery going

The flying mouse

While were at it we should chisel Napoleons name to the top of the obelisk in the pheno :P:P:pac:

FTA69

Utterly cringing and post colonial head-hanging bullsh*t, you wouldn't find it in any other European country. I wonder will the Greeks start putting up memorials for the Wehrmacht who died while occupying their country in the interests of parity? Imagine, the likes of James Connolly's name could be up on the wall and held in esteem alongside the soldiers that shot him in the name of British imperialist.

Shameful, totally f*cking shameful.

griffdaddy

buried wrote: »

Substandard chinese black granite that's doused in oil over in China's quarries. It'll be grey within 5 years time.

Every country is entitled to produce granite in a way they see fit. It's time to move on.

chocksaway

FTA69 wrote: »

Utterly cringing and post colonial head-hanging bullsh*t, you wouldn't find it in any other European country. I wonder will the Greeks start putting up memorials for the Wehrmacht who died while occupying their country in the interests of parity? Imagine, the likes of James Connolly's name could be up on the wall and held in esteem alongside the soldiers that shot him in the name of British imperialist.

Shameful, totally f*cking shameful.

Build a fecking bridge will ya! Its a monument for all the dead, not just the rebels. How many times have you to be told

buried

griffdaddy wrote: »

Every country is entitled to produce granite in a way they see fit. It's time to move on.

We should use Irish stone for a Irish monument, this chinese granite only suits kitchens and indoors. Irish stone would keep money in the country and help Irish jobs, not the chinese. Laughable