Abl evse programming

BoatMad

Is there a link to the method , thanks.

BoatMad

Found the manual on the evcc , anyone tried this yet ?

mundogas

Yeah, I'll send you a PM.

BoatMad

Ta

You'll need the box to connect between the laptop and charge point.

I think it's more than just a serial to usb converter ?

BoatMad

Deleted User wrote: »

You'll need the box to connect between the laptop and charge point.

I think it's more than just a serial to usb converter ?

No it's just USB to RS485 , which is a multidrop serial

Something like this perhaps ?
http://www.ftdichip.com/Products/Cables/USBRS485.htm

BoatMad

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Something like this perhaps ?
http://www.ftdichip.com/Products/Cables/USBRS485.htm

http://www.ebay.ie/itm/USB-to-RS485-USB-485-Converter-Adapter-Support-Win7-XP-Vista-Linux-Mac-OS-WinCE5-/291690934001?hash=item43ea226ef1:g:goMAAOSw54xUXotA

Cheap as chips , though I'll have to extract a GND connection as some rs485 have a few issues with floating grounds

You can also use a rs422 interface as long as there is only one EVCC on the network

I have a cable similar to this for programming my E-Bike controllers. Do you think this would work BoatMad ?

https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=16707

BoatMad

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I have a cable similar to this for programming my E-Bike controllers. Do you think this would work BoatMad ?

https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=16707

No unfortunately not.

If you like I'll have my one reprogrammed this week and I can mail you my adapter for a lend

BoatMad

BoatMad wrote: »

No unfortunately not.

If you like I'll have my one reprogrammed this week and I can mail you my adapter for a lend

Thanks, appreciate it.

stesaurus

I did mine today. Pretty easy once the laptop recognised the cable and driver.
Thanks for the files mundogas, saved a lot of digging about.

BoatMad

s.welstead wrote: »

I did mine today. Pretty easy once the laptop recognised the cable and driver.
Thanks for the files mundogas, saved a lot of digging about.

My frigging RCBO was lost by the courier and I had to send my electrician away for a week while I shout at the supplier and the courier


stupid w&*kers

s.welstead

s.welstead wrote: »

I did mine today. Pretty easy once the laptop recognised the cable and driver.
Thanks for the files mundogas, saved a lot of digging about.

What USB to Rs 485 adapter did you use ?

stesaurus

Same one BoatMad had actually recommended, although ordered a while ago from a different seller. Probably goes without saying but I'd recommend turning off all power to the charger before starting as I needed to pull out a lot of things to get at the controller. It's slightly awkward to get in at without almost removing out the controller

BoatMad

s.welstead wrote: »

Same one BoatMad had actually recommended, although ordered a while ago from a different seller. Probably goes without saying but I'd recommend turning off all power to the charger before starting as I needed to pull out a lot of things to get at the controller. It's slightly awkward to get in at without almost removing out the controller

I would recommend removing the controller and testing it independently that whats I did ( mind you I have a tech lab at my disposal !)

stesaurus

The unit is only IP44 rated and it shows once you open it up. There's not much protection there if you get a downpour and winds in the wrong direction. If I was to take some silicon to the joints do you think it would impact ventilation, does it need some level of cooling?

BoatMad

s.welstead wrote: »

The unit is only IP44 rated and it shows once you open it up. There's not much protection there if you get a downpour and winds in the wrong direction. If I was to take some silicon to the joints do you think it would impact ventilation, does it need some level of cooling?

No , theres nothing high power in there and the only thing generating any heat at all is the contactor coil

however IPx4, is proof against non directed rain. for example the J1772 handle is only IPx4 as well.

unless its in a very exposed place , the current sealing is " adequate "

stesaurus

I think I'd feel better with some additional waterproofing. The chargemaster unit I have at my own house is IP54 rated, I think that's the minimum really these units should be.

BoatMad

s.welstead wrote: »

I think I'd feel better with some additional waterproofing. The chargemaster unit I have at my own house is IP54 rated, I think that's the minimum really these units should be.

IP54 offer no greater protection from ingress of water over IP44, The first digit is object ingress and the second is water protection IP54 and 44 are the same as regards water access.

BoatMad

hi guys , mine came with a RJ11 connecter all ready wired to the EVCC

is it just the !n 12 command thats needed , theres a default current setting in the docs as well ?

stesaurus

I used the EVCC software rather than commands. Switch it to manual mode and set the new Max rate and it accepts the changes.

BoatMad

note for MAC user if you use the cheapy RS485 with the CH340 chipset you need this driver

http://0xcf.com/2015/03/13/chinese-arduinos-with-ch340-ch341-serial-usb-chip-on-os-x-yosemite/

use cool term as a suitable freeware serial term, it will handle the weird USB serial name , so it works out of the box

baud rate 38400,n,8,1 with CRLF

module will respond with its firmware version on power up

mine came prewired for an RJ11 connector , I cut up an old router cable , you may have to buzz out which wires connect to what . you can ignore 'M" ( black wire)

BoatMad

s.welstead wrote: »

I used the EVCC software rather than commands. Switch it to manual mode and set the new Max rate and it accepts the changes.

Im a mac user no windows for me

Ill bare bones it , Theres a !12 and a !15 , the !15 gives an error , but as you say I will try it in manual mode

did the leaf then report 6kw charging

BoatMad

of course , doh,, had to switch to manual mode, RTFM!!!!

ta for the pointer , Ill check the car this evening

BoatMad

mines up and running , other then my crappy clamp meter packing up on me

Ok so ye used this ?

http://www.ebay.ie/itm/USB-to-RS485-USB-485-Converter-Adapter-Support-Win7-XP-Vista-Linux-Mac-OS-WinCE5-/291690934001?hash=item43ea226ef1:g:goMAAOSw54xUXotA

BoatMad

Deleted User wrote: »

Ok so ye used this ?

http://www.ebay.ie/itm/USB-to-RS485-USB-485-Converter-Adapter-Support-Win7-XP-Vista-Linux-Mac-OS-WinCE5-/291690934001?hash=item43ea226ef1:g:goMAAOSw54xUXotA

yep, no issues

What's the cable config from this to the EVSE controller ?

stesaurus

[Deleted User] wrote: »

What's the cable config from this to the EVSE controller ?

It's shown on the controller, A,B and M for ground

I see A and B on the Rs 485 to USB, where does ground connect to ?

BoatMad

Deleted User wrote: »

I see A and B on the Rs 485 to USB, where does ground connect to ?

In general for Rs485 no ground connection is neccessary

BoatMad

Mad_lad

I'm finished with mine at the moment if you want a lend , or maybe you want to buy a new one anyway ? , I can pop the adaptor in the post Monday

If you have access to an rj11 cable you can plug that into the programming connector , it's down the side of the EVCC , I can give you the pinouts, it saves trying to get wires to the EVCC

stesaurus

I didn't ground mine either. I saw the RJ11 wired up once I opened mine but already had the USB cable ready.
I actually haven't even tested mine yet with the car as it's with BMW getting some updates and fixes.

BoatMad

BoatMad wrote: »

Mad_lad

I'm finished with mine at the moment if you want a lend , or maybe you want to buy a new one anyway ? , I can pop the adaptor in the post Monday

If you have access to an rj11 cable you can plug that into the programming connector , it's down the side of the EVCC , I can give you the pinouts, it saves trying to get wires to the EVCC

Thanks BoatMad but I ordered one last night on shift while I was bored lol.

I thought it might be handy to have around anyway just in case I need it again.

Give me the pin outs though please that would be handy.

BoatMad

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Thanks BoatMad but I ordered one last night on shift while I was bored lol.

I thought it might be handy to have around anyway just in case I need it again.

Give me the pin outs though please that would be handy.

Have you a RJ48 to RJ48 cable you can cut one side off. Otherwise you have to wire into the EVCC rs485 connector and that awkward as the shutter mechanism of the menneseke socket is right up against it.

michaelbrowne

s.welstead wrote: »

I used the EVCC software rather than commands. Switch it to manual mode and set the new Max rate and it accepts the changes.

Where do you get the EVCC software?
I know I can use a serial terminal but is there GUI software available?

BoatMad

BoatMad wrote: »

Have you a RJ48 to RJ48 cable you can cut one side off. Otherwise you have to wire into the EVCC rs485 connector and that awkward as the shutter mechanism of the menneseke socket is right up against it.

I can make one up no problem.

Haven't got around to it, not a lot of time when off shift, but today I realised I need to get it sorted because the extra 3.3 Kw of juice would have been extremely handy.

I need to get a RCBO , I'm just wondering if I should get it for the 32 amps or 40, the Leaf won't pull much more than 28 amps so 32 will be fine but the cable is 40 amps to the junction box where the Electrician then cabled to the EVSE, I am not sure if this cable will handle the 32 amps.

BoatMad

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I can make one up no problem.

Haven't got around to it, not a lot of time when off shift, but today I realised I need to get it sorted because the extra 3.3 Kw of juice would have been extremely handy.

I need to get a RCBO , I'm just wondering if I should get it for the 32 amps or 40, the Leaf won't pull much more than 28 amps so 32 will be fine but the cable is 40 amps to the junction box where the Electrician then cabled to the EVSE, I am not sure if this cable will handle the 32 amps.

I installed a RCBO of 40 amps , 32 is a little tight

Note you don't need the gui software. It's three commands using any serial terminal ,

I paid 18 euros for my RCBO

michaelbrowne

BoatMad wrote: »

Have you a RJ48 to RJ48 cable you can cut one side off. Otherwise you have to wire into the EVCC rs485 connector and that awkward as the shutter mechanism of the menneseke socket is right up against it.

Is it necessary to use 120Ω resistors to terminate both ends of the RS485 connection?

BoatMad

michaelbrowne wrote: »

Is it necessary to use 120Ω resistors to terminate both ends of the RS485 connection?

no for a single connection you can ignore them, RS485 can run for 100s of metres and its then you need those termination resistors

The ABL RJ45 connector has some series resistors in the circuit , its helps if you can access that connector, but it will work wired directly to the AB terminals , ( if awkward to get at )


WARNING: This info is supplied on a take it or leave it basis, messing with high current 230VAC can be lethal , You need to be aware of the effects of high powered loading of your house system. Modifications to your consumer distribution board require a RECI certified electrician

If you dont understand it , dont do it .

OK so we'll go with this thread from the Ioniq thread then ?

So I found the software on my NAS for the ABL unit, so all I need is the cable which I'll get soon hopefully, now that I'll be moving in the next few weeks I want to get it sorted, 32A charging will be quiet handy for me or around 27 amps to be more precise for the 6.6 Kw Leaf at 240 Volts ?

So this is the RS485 device

http://www.ebay.ie/itm/USB-to-RS485-USB-485-Converter-Adapter-Support-Win7-XP-Vista-Linux-Mac-OS-WinCE5-/291690934001?hash=item43ea226ef1:g:goMAAOSw54xUXotA&clk_rvr_id=1156646580239&rmvSB=true

Can anyone share a wiring diagram , was it to RJ45 ?

So after looking through the docs again this is the official device for flashing the ABL units.

https://www.stroomstore.nl/abl-sursum-usb-rs485-omvormer-programmeeradapter-inclusief-software/pid=37589

stesaurus

Adding up the files if anyone needs them https://www.dropbox.com/s/fhv2rvcqncygzxo/EVCCSetPar.zip?dl=0, original credit to Mundogas

Any USB to RS485 should work and wire it direct to the A and B terminals on the ABL unit.
The software is on the link if you're not too comfortable with the direct commands. Remember to switch to Manual Mode to enable any changes.

Also just to note it is possible to tether this unit also but its not exactly straight forward so its easier to just lock a type 2 cable to it instead.

Gumbo

Anyone got a lend of an adapter / dongle that works?

unkel

I lost the keys to mine. And I left the dongle in there. If you or someone else knows how to open it, the dongle is yours!

Gumbo

unkel wrote: »

I lost the keys to mine. And I left the dongle in there. If you or someone else knows how to open it, the dongle is yours!

Does the same key open them all?

I got one from Nigel Daly last year and he asked no questions with regards to the unit so I assume the same key opens them?

Gumbo

This work?

https://www.adverts.ie/6379125

unkel

Gumbo wrote: »

Does the same key open them all?

I got one from Nigel Daly last year and he asked no questions with regards to the unit so I assume the same key opens them?

Then surely the one key opens them all

Gumbo wrote: »

This work?

https://www.adverts.ie/6379125

Yes. That's the one. Local to you too. But looks like it is sold?

You're more than welcome to drop over to me in Lucan with that key, if it opens the charger, the dongle is yours

Gumbo

unkel wrote: »

Then surely the one key opens them all



Yes. That's the one. Local to you too. But looks like it is sold?

You're more than welcome to drop over to me in Lucan with that key, if it opens the charger, the dongle is yours

Thanks.
I’ll see if this guy has any left. My link appears to show it as still available.
There’s one or 2 sellers in Glasnevin and ballymun so within 5 mins of me.

If they fall short I’ll take you up on your offer then. Get a look at that MS too

If I can do this upgrade on the ABL, I’ll sell the BMW I Wallbox Plis I got. T hands on yesterday

One thing, if I change the unit to 32a, then disconnect it to move it onto another wall, would it require flashing again?

Probably best to just do it after moving it.

Here’s another - https://www.adverts.ie/4703222

Just making sure I pick up the right usb.

stesaurus

Doesn't matter if you move it, it's a change until you set it back.
Any of those USB dongles should work