Warning to women and men - both victims and potential perpetrators.

TheHillOfDoom

I am 38. I've heard about date rape drugs. I've maintained the stance that I must have had my drink spiked in my ill-spent youth. In reality, I had just drank shorts on top of pints.

Last night however, I was drugged. I was drugged and my partner was drugged.

At about 11.30, we were doing the highland swing together (or some version of what you do 6 pints in). Grand job. Lovely hurling.

We had been rotating going out for cigarettes, to guard the well-filled wallets etc. as you do. But, when we both took to the dancefloor, our drinks were unguarded.

Anyway, about 2 minutes later, partner drinking guinness, buckled. (Cynic that I am, I was thinking the ****er is after downing whiskys.) Anyway - other man in bar agrees to escort him the 100 feet to the flat. I go in, down last of my drink and follow.

Now - to return to the flat is maybe 40 feet, turn the corner, 20 feet, turn the corner and 40 feet.

However.............

Somewhere on the last 40 feet, whatever drugged me hit me. I could see the man and my partner just turning in, but I didn't know what was happening so didn't call out (had no idea that I might need to!).

I vividly remember trying to claw with my nails onto the wall. That didn't work, my legs didn't work and I was on the pavement. I tried to crawl, my arms didn't have any strength, my legs I could not feel. I tried to find my phone in handbag, my arms stopped moving.

Apparently, I lay for 2 hours in the pouring rain in London, in a gutter. It seems to me like 10 minutes, but I must have passed out, so I don't even remember the cold.

I remember shouting Help help help and a man with brown skin coming and me saying ambulance. He vanished after that and I kept saying 'please come back'. Probably fell unconcsious again, but my lovely brown-skinned stranger obviously called an ambulance.

Ambulance came and when I was brought to hospital my temperature was 31 degrees. I remember them talking about it reaching 33 degrees and then some sort of round of applause when I reached 36.4.


SO

To men and women. Trust NAE ****er.

To potential perpetrators? 15 minutes longer, I'd have been dead and you'd be looking at a sentence for murder.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

I'm glad you're ok. Have no idea why people would be so sick as to do that to another person

darkpagandeath

Glad to hear you and other half are fine. Remember people "NEVER" "NEVER" leave your drinks untended. Finish it up before dancing or going for a bio.

Tigger

Did you save your piss or get a blood test to see what you were poisoned with

PARlance

Did you lodge a report with the police? Have you or they been in to look at the pub's CCTV?

TheHillOfDoom

Tigger wrote: »

Did you save your piss or get a blood test to see what you were poisoned with

If it's any consolation, I had it out with the doctor in charge of me. They have no jurisdiction to test for drugs. Drugs tests come from forensics apparently.

the evasion_kid

Where your wallets and phones missing?

TheHillOfDoom

No - I haven't lodged a report with the police. That is partly why I had the argument with the doctor. Anyway, protocl schmotocol, they don't test for drugs. He advised reporting it as if the police receive several reports of deaths or whatever results! in the same venue, then they'll investigate. Yes. I'm going to pointlessly do that. No.

TheHillOfDoom

the evasion_kid wrote: »

Where your wallets and phones missing?

Nothing was missing at all. I was recovered with my handbag half full of water. I genuinely don't think they knew how quick these drugs would work or something. Anyway. I'm still alive.

the evasion_kid

TheHillOfDoom wrote: »

Nothing was missing at all. I was recovered with my handbag half full of water. I genuinely don't think they knew how quick these drugs would work or something. Anyway. I'm still alive.

Strange...anyway good to hear you survived, it's a scarey experience losing your functions like that.

ballsymchugh

TheHillOfDoom wrote: »

No - I haven't lodged a report with the police. That is partly why I had the argument with the doctor. Anyway, protocl schmotocol, they don't test for drugs. He advised reporting it as if the police receive several reports of deaths or whatever results! in the same venue, then they'll investigate. Yes. I'm going to pointlessly do that. No.

so maybe if you do report it, then they might pay more heed to the next one, or the last one, but if you don't, then nothing will happen.
it's the weekend in london, the hospital will deal with plenty of people who are hammered, all with similar symptoms as yourself. that's why they won't test you for anything.
you should've reported it.

TheHillOfDoom

It was the most terrifying experience of my life and I'd be prone to losing the run of myself with drink. Anyway, cat of nine lives, I'm alive to tell the tale. I want to see the ****ers who almost killed me suffer though.

TheHillOfDoom

ballsymchugh wrote: »

so maybe if you do report it, then they might pay more heed to the next one, or the last one, but if you don't, then nothing will happen.
it's the weekend in london, the hospital will deal with plenty of people who are hammered, all with similar symptoms as yourself. that's why they won't test you for anything.
you should've reported it.

Yes. No.

JackieBauer

I'm glad you survived but I have to play devils advocate, you really need to be more aware of you're surroundings. There is scum everywhere. They are like rats, you very rarely see them but you are never too far from them

PARlance

TheHillOfDoom wrote: »

No - I haven't lodged a report with the police. That is partly why I had the argument with the doctor. Anyway, protocl schmotocol, they don't test for drugs. He advised reporting it as if the police receive several reports of deaths or whatever results! in the same venue, then they'll investigate. Yes. I'm going to pointlessly do that. No.

A thread in AH will do the trick so!

The police may do nothing if you report it, they will definitely do nothing now.
If people started to report all these incidents rather than being content to tell their stories online, it might be a safer place out there.

TheHillOfDoom

I would be reporting nonsense. No evidence whatsoever.

JackieBauer

Maybe there was CCTV in the pub, OP. It's London after all. Report it.

foggy_lad

OP had you and OH eaten at any restaurants before your episode in the nightclub?

Is it possible that ye were poisoned by some food eaten a few days prior to the night out? some bouts of food poisoning can be very debilitating and leave the person feeling like they have been doped. Any hot flushes or cold sweats or cramps or dose of the trots after or before the night out?

TheHillOfDoom

Look. I have no motive here than to warn you that the big bad bastard wolf still exists (even at 38). Take from it what you will. Couples be wary. All of you be wary. Whoever spikes your drink could inadvertently cause your death. Ain't noboby got time for that!

PARlance

TheHillOfDoom wrote: »

I would be reporting nonsense. No evidence whatsoever.

How do you know there is no evidence? There could be CCTV in the pub, you have a timeline.

It's nonsense not reporting it. I would go as far as saying it's extremely selfish and foolish not to report it.

gozunda

What of your partner and the bloke thst brought him home?

Anyway - other man in bar agrees to escort him the 100 feet to the flat. I go in, down last of my drink and follow.

Was this guy someone you know? We're you not concerned about your partner to go back with him?

Ask about for CCTV coverage of your table for possible evidence of someone tampering your drinks ...

jeni

Wow thank god your ok

TheHillOfDoom

There is no CCTV in the pub. We've already checked.

the evasion_kid

TheHillOfDoom wrote: »

There is no CCTV in the pub. We've already checked.

What does you partner remember about the night?

stoplooklisten

7 pints will do that

TheHillOfDoom

The only reason that I can see (I may have not thought of anything else for 20 hours) for us being targetted would be a warning to get away or something. Otherwise, I can't see how both of us were targetted. In any case - warning well received!

stoplooklisten

What sort of a warning to get away? Not a very good one if it leaves you lying in the road for 2 hours!

why wouldn't you file a police report.? You went to the hospital, they'll have done blood tests, no?

TheHillOfDoom

stoplooklisten wrote: »

7 pints will do that

As I said to the doctor, I've often had more for breakfast. In the heel of the hunt he genuinely knew that I had been drugged (regaling him about the time I stood up on the surfboard after 40 pints o' stout helped in that regard).

PARlance

TheHillOfDoom wrote: »

There is no CCTV in the pub. We've already checked.

In your OP you state that 15 mins longer and you could have been dead. You nearly died and you don't see fit in informing the authorities? If you don't, you're not doing everything you can to ensure that someone else isn't the victim.

You later talk of the "big bad bastard wolf" drugging people, non reporting of these incidents just adds to the notion that many people just cry wolf when it comes to being drugged.

stoplooklisten

TheHillOfDoom wrote: »

As I said to the doctor, I've often had more for breakfast. In the heel of the hunt he genuinely knew that I had been drugged (regaling him about the time I stood up on the surfboard after 40 pints o' stout helped in that regard).

did he do blood tests?

TheHillOfDoom

PARlance wrote: »

In your OP you state that 15 mins longer and you could have been dead. You nearly died and you don't see fit in informing the authorities? If you don't, you're not doing everything you can to ensure that someone else isn't the victim.

You later talk of the "big bad bastard wolf" drugging people, non reporting of these incidents just adds to the notion that many people just cry wolf when it comes to being drugged.

What can I do? Hi Mr. Policeman. I think I was drugged. Ye were in yer hole, go home ta fcuk.

stoplooklisten

TheHillOfDoom wrote: »

What can I do? Hi Mr. Policeman. I think I was drugged. Ye were in yer hole, go home ta fcuk.

Hi mr.policeman, I think I was drugged. The doctor I saw that night also confirms this. Here are the results of the tests he carried out on me to prove it. Unless the doctor just took your temperature and verbally confirmed it was drugs?

TheHillOfDoom

stoplooklisten wrote: »

did he do blood tests?

Yes, and I had a fairly significant argument/discussion with him over the fact that I knew that I was drugged. NHS will not test for drugs unless for forensics. He told me this later i.e. on discharge today (so he had done his research).

stoplooklisten

TheHillOfDoom wrote: »

Yes, and I had a fairly significant argument/discussion with him over the fact that I knew that I was drugged. NHS will not test for drugs unless for forensics. He told me this later i.e. on discharge today (so he had done his research).

If you feel unwell, someone you trust should take you to your nearest accident and emergency (A&E) department. Tell the medical staff that you think your drink has been spiked. Arrange for a trusted friend or relative to take you home and stay with you until the drugs have fully left your system.
Report it to the police as soon as you can. They will need to take blood and urine samples.

http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/abuse/Pages/drink-spiking.aspx

He hasn't researched very well it would appear

foggy_lad

TheHillOfDoom wrote: »

What can I do? Hi Mr. Policeman. I think I was drugged. Ye were in yer hole, go home ta fcuk.

ok then if you have that defeatist attitude you should do as you think the policeman might tell you, but be aware that by not getting this investigated properly most people will be scepitical and will imagine you ate a dodgey take away the night before or ye were on a 1916 style bender and it caught up with ye. Another possibility is that ye pissed off the wrong people and they tried to harm/kill ye. But as ye say who the fcuk knows and who the fcuk cares.

If you don't care why should anyone else?

GerB40

PARlance wrote: »

How do you know there is no evidence? There could be CCTV in the pub, you have a timeline.

It's nonsense not reporting it. I would go as far as saying it's extremely selfish and foolish not to report it.

I whole heartedly agree. What if reporting it saves one person from being spiked? Of course it may not but if there's a slight chance then I think it's morally right to report. Sorry you had to go through that shít OP. I've seen it happen and it frightened the life out of me.. I'm happy your both okay

TheHillOfDoom

stoplooklisten wrote: »

If you feel unwell, someone you trust should take you to your nearest accident and emergency (A&E) department. Tell the medical staff that you think your drink has been spiked. Arrange for a trusted friend or relative to take you home and stay with you until the drugs have fully left your system.
Report it to the police as soon as you can. They will need to take blood and urine samples.

http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/abuse/Pages/drink-spiking.aspx

He hasn't researched very well it would appear

Perhaps he has experience of reality.

stoplooklisten

TheHillOfDoom wrote: »

Perhaps he has experience of reality.

Maybe he didn't have the heart to tell you it was the drink!

JackieBauer

Could it have been DT's?

recylingbin

Glad you're ok, doomy.

TheHillOfDoom

stoplooklisten wrote: »

Maybe he didn't have the heart to tell you it was the drink!

I don't want this notion on my thread. The god damned consultant agreed that I had been drugged.

I want to warn people about who is out there.

But I also want to warn the perpetrators of how close you can come to murder by just slipping something in her drink.

stoplooklisten

Maybe it was heroin, it was that addictive, you let a strange man take your husband home, so you could finish your drink!


or crack cocaine :eek:


yes, the consultant agreed. He took your temperature and just knew!

btw you have 24-72 hours to get the blood and urine test done, most things still show up in that time.

TheHillOfDoom

stoplooklisten wrote: »

Maybe it was heroin, it was that addictive, you let a strange man take your husband home, so you could finish your drink!


or crack cocaine :eek:


yes, the consultant agreed. He took your temperature and just knew!

Maybe you missed the point.

recylingbin

what pub was it?

PARlance

TheHillOfDoom wrote: »

I don't want this notion on my thread. The god damned consultant agreed that I had been drugged.

I want to warn people about who is out there.

But I also want to warn the perpetrators of how close you can come to murder by just slipping something in her drink.

Well considering the Police aren't a viable avenue, you should ensure you post the story on facebook, a perpetrator gets caught for every 1,000 likes, so get sharing folks.

stoplooklisten

TheHillOfDoom wrote: »

Maybe you missed the point.

You still have time to go and get the test done. Don't you want to know what it was it case it has long lasting effects? or effects show up later? or you start having spasms next week or..?

TheHillOfDoom

stoplooklisten wrote: »

You still have time to go and get the test done. Don't you want to know what it was it case it has long lasting effects? or effects show up later? or you start having spasms next week or..?

I've already had this talk with the doctor.

stoplooklisten

TheHillOfDoom wrote: »

I've already had this talk with the doctor.

TBH he doesn't sound like the best doctor. Go to a different one that takes you seriously.

I'd be so annoyed if I was unwell and all the doctor did was take my temperature and nod the yes I'd been drugged.

stoplooklisten

TheHillOfDoom wrote: »

...
But I also want to warn the perpetrators of how close you can come to murder by just slipping something in her drink.

So you were nearly murdered and the doctor just took you temperature and you're ok with the doctors apathy :eek:


Nearly murdered!

What warning do you think they were giving you to get away?

Are you Indiana Jones?

Amadeus 2014

I would never accuse a random stranger I have never met on the Internet of exaggerating or making up a terrifying story - where a random event nearly left them dead and the authorities were uninterested. Of course I utterly believe that:

- A pub in 2016 in London doesn't have any form of internal CCTV
- A medical professional presented with a patient reporting a high temp and loss of consciousness through a reported adverse reaction to unknown drugs wouldn't run a basic tox screening. After all they wouldn't be interested in knowing if the medication they are using to treat the symptoms might interact with whatever may be floating around in the patient. And they have no interest in knowing if whatever the patient may have taken could have long term ill effects
- That hospitals don't test for drugs, only forensics do that. I assume they want a forensics lab to test the blood of an unconscious or overdosed junkie before they begin treatment as well?
- That a person who had undergone such an ordeal and was keen to make whoever did this suffer is unwilling to have blood / alcohol or hair samples taken in a local police station to find out what they were drugged with, allowing for an attempted murder investigation and for them to be treated for any long term effects

I do hope you get over this terrible ordeal OP

dublinman1990

OP I'm really glad that you & your partner survived that horrific incident. I don't know how people can become so sick in their minds to do that someone who was completely harmless and doesn't deserve it because they don't treat anyone else like ****.

Get tests done by Forensics & report the incident to local police immediately to officially confirm on police records that you were drugged because this is the only way to confirm that the police have a lead in their investigation.

You've said that this incident is not something to get away with that easily. All you have to do is confirm some descriptions to police of the people who were near the table where both your own drinks were spiked with the drugs. They will be able to investigate it by asking questions to owners of the pub & staff who worked there who may have seen some suspicious behaviour on the night by some of their customers. People who were the customers there, that were sitting your near your table or were dancing around you & your partner, may have to give evidence to police to see something very suspicious as they indeed could have feared that they could have been the next victims.

Give as much information as you can to the police OP as you will not become disappointed with the outcome. Get well soon.