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The other parade

  • 27-03-2016 4:29pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭


    While the Deputy First Minister was attending the Parade in Dublin and clapping the very ones his comrades killed, his leader was showing where his affiliation lies by being up in Belfast.

    Why did Gerry fail to represent his constituents at the Parade in Dublin?

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2016/0327/777747-belfast-1916-parade/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    While the Deputy First Minister was attending the Parade in Dublin and clapping the very ones his comrades killed, his leader was showing where his affiliation lies by being up in Belfast.

    Why did Gerry fail to represent his constituents at the Parade in Dublin?

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2016/0327/777747-belfast-1916-parade/

    He was at the alternative parade for the lost leaders in dublin yesterday apparently .


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    While the Deputy First Minister was attending the Parade in Dublin and clapping the very ones his comrades killed, his leader was showing where his affiliation lies by being up in Belfast.

    Why did Gerry fail to represent his constituents at the Parade in Dublin?

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2016/0327/777747-belfast-1916-parade/

    Lame.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,575 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo



    Why did Gerry fail to represent his constituents at the Parade in Dublin?

    Presumably you can confirm that every other TD was at the parade in Dublin today?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 848 ✭✭✭Superhorse


    While the Deputy First Minister was attending the Parade in Dublin and clapping the very ones his comrades killed, his leader was showing where his affiliation lies by being up in Belfast.

    Why did Gerry fail to represent his constituents at the Parade in Dublin?

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2016/0327/777747-belfast-1916-parade/

    2/10. Must try harder.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    There was never a chance Adams or Sinn Fein would show their face today. If they're not in charge, they're not interested.


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  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 976 ✭✭✭beach_walker


    OP if you're so concerned, I'm imagine it'll please you to know that Gerry will most likely be at the march on April 24th in Dublin to commemorate the events.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    There was never a chance Adams or Sinn Fein would show their face today. If they're not in charge, they're not interested.

    McGuinness was in the front row at the parade.. I dont think he was in charge:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,717 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Superhorse wrote: »
    2/10. Must try harder.

    I gave him a point for spelling, what did you give him the other point for?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    I thought this was going to be about that other, other parade


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,575 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    There was never a chance Adams or Sinn Fein would show their face today. If they're not in charge, they're not interested.

    McGuinness was sitting between Joan Burton and Mary Robinson in the VIP stand, quite a prominent position


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,789 ✭✭✭Alf Stewart.


    While the Deputy First Minister was attending the Parade in Dublin and clapping the very ones his comrades killed, his leader was showing where his affiliation lies by being up in Belfast.

    Why did Gerry fail to represent his constituents at the Parade in Dublin?

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2016/0327/777747-belfast-1916-parade/

    Not very Christian like mate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭donvito99


    I always have to laugh at the how rival commemorations are staged. It wouldn't be so bad, but they actually try to position themselves as the real Oglaigh na hEireann.

    The absolute state of these wans.

    https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/attachments/169996/381526.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,789 ✭✭✭Alf Stewart.


    donvito99 wrote: »
    I always have to laugh at the how rival commemorations are staged. It wouldn't be so bad, but they actually try to position themselves as the real Oglaigh na hEireann.

    The absolute state of these wans.

    https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/attachments/169996/381526.jpg

    Raise ye...

    Marty Morrison ftw.

    Fri nights Late Late show


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭donvito99


    Raise ye...

    Fri nights Late Late show

    The execution yard at Kilmainham might be put to good use in 2016, if you know what I mean.

    But Marty Morrissey is sound.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,789 ✭✭✭Alf Stewart.


    donvito99 wrote: »
    The execution yard at Kilmainham might be put to good use in 2016, if you know what I mean.
    Not sure what you mean.
    But Marty Morrissey is sound.
    Maybe so too are the ones in the pic you think are "a state".

    Never judge a book by its cover mate.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Those Irish independent journos up to no good as usual!


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    donvito99 wrote: »
    I always have to laugh at the how rival commemorations are staged. It wouldn't be so bad, but they actually try to position themselves as the real Oglaigh na hEireann.

    The absolute state of these wans.

    https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/attachments/169996/381526.jpg

    Just people out enjoying the day, no need to sneer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭donvito99


    Just people out enjoying the day, no need to sneer

    When, as at Arbour Hill, you start trying to play soldier and in so doing claiming to be the real Oglaigh na hEireann, you deserve to be ridiculed.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    donvito99 wrote: »
    When, as at Arbour Hill, you start trying to play soldier and in so doing claiming to be the real Oglaigh na hEireann, you deserve to be ridiculed.
    Is that what the women were doing? I thought they were just reenactors


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭maudgonner


    Raise ye...

    Marty Morrison ftw.

    Fri nights Late Late show

    I love the slightly crazed look in the driver's eyes: "If I were to suddenly 'lose control', I could take out Tubs, the Martys, Blathnaid, Sean O'Rourke...oh God why was Joe Duffy too busy to turn up?!"


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭The flying mouse


    Thousands of people were out all over Ireland today commemorating 1916, All doing there small part as best they could do, yet we have here people sneering and cheering at others who at least made the effort, Ireland unfree shall never be at peace once we have the internet warriors...ha ha ha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,402 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    There was never a chance Adams or Sinn Fein would show their face today. If they're not in charge, they're not interested.

    pretty sure The Lord Mayor of Dublin was there


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭The flying mouse


    I am in Portugal now in a mates apartment looking at tubs on rte1 with the story about the rising ,everyone here, English,Spanish,Brazilian and Moroccan are stuck into it, and think its great. just saying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭donvito99


    Thousands of people were out all over Ireland today commemorating 1916, All doing there small part as best they could do, yet we have here people sneering and cheering at others who at least made the effort, Ireland unfree shall never be at peace once we have the internet warriors...ha ha ha

    Hundreds of thousands watched a proper parade, a hundred or so watched a few Walter Mittys disgracing Arbour Hill


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    donvito99 wrote: »
    Hundreds of thousands watched a proper parade, a hundred or so watched a few Walter Mittys disgracing Arbour Hill

    Deos it matter where they went to see it as they are parades all over the country on Easter Sunday


    No one is right or wrong in this so long as it's being commerated


    The hassle people went through to keep this parades alive during the 70s and 80s when the state wouldn't for fear of upsetting people...I think it's great for people to be able to Commerate it anyway they see fit (within reason)


    You are aware there are commeration every Easter Sunday the length and breath of the country like??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,019 ✭✭✭davycc


    donvito99 wrote: »
    When, as at Arbour Hill, you start trying to play soldier and in so doing claiming to be the real Oglaigh na hEireann, you deserve to be ridiculed.

    just women reenactors showing there respects and there where in belfast nowhere arbour hill so un twist those panties of yours;):rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,019 ✭✭✭davycc


    donvito99 wrote: »
    Hundreds of thousands watched a proper parade, a hundred or so watched a few Walter Mittys disgracing Arbour Hill

    you must have missed geography the day you went to school- :pac: these ladies are in belfast--- arbour hill in dublin is about 100miles away please stop posting stupiid sh1te and do the thread a favour:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,019 ✭✭✭davycc


    pretty sure The Lord Mayor of Dublin was there

    yep she was the firsst lady of the city


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭donvito99


    davycc wrote: »
    just women reenactors showing there respects and there where in belfast nowhere arbour hill so un twist those panties of yours;):rolleyes:

    There was an identical display at Arbour Hill yesterday.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭donvito99



    The hassle people went through to keep this parades alive during the 70s and 80s when the state wouldn't for fear of upsetting people...I think it's great for people to be able to Commerate it anyway they see fit (within reason)

    There has always been a commemoration at the GPO on Easter sunday. The old excuse that the State has somehow failed to adequately recognise the Rising is an attempt to justify these alternative commemorations with indelible links to that organisation which considered itself Ireland's army from the late sixties to 1998.

    You are aware there are commeration every Easter Sunday the length and breath of the country like??

    Yes. But let the actual military (borne out of the IRB, ICA, IV) do their drills, and let these people watch them like the rest of us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,019 ✭✭✭davycc


    donvito99 wrote: »
    There was an identical display at Arbour Hill yesterday.

    OMG The humanity ;)

    do you mean yesterday or friday ?have you got an actual point apart from looking down your nose on female reenactors?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭donvito99


    davycc wrote: »
    OMG The humanity ;)

    do you mean yesterday or friday ?

    It's been a long weekend :cool:


    My point remains -- these amateurs should either join the RDF or give up the aul Dad's Army stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,212 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    donvito99 wrote: »
    There has always been a commemoration at the GPO on Easter sunday. The old excuse that the State has somehow failed to adequately recognise the Rising is an attempt to justify these alternative commemorations with indelible links to that organisation which considered itself Ireland's army from the late sixties to 1998.




    Yes. But let the actual military (borne out of the IRB, ICA, IV) do their drills, and let these people watch them like the rest of us.

    So only the Irish army can do re-enactments? Must tell the likes of the Abbey, the thousands of communities, the schools etc that they are not allowed Donvito is not pleased. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭donvito99


    So only the Irish army can do re-enactments? Must tell the likes of the Abbey, the thousands of communities, the schools etc that they are not allowed Donvito is not pleased. :)

    At Arbour Hill?

    Exhibit A: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rruB4hGZNk8

    Some of the people present
    Dublin Says No , The Hub, The National Land League

    Desecration is a good word. The Brits don't allow the BNP to march past the Cenotaph.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,019 ✭✭✭davycc


    donvito99 wrote: »
    It's been a long weekend :cool:


    My point remains -- these amateurs should either join the RDF or give up the aul Dad's Army stuff.

    so your just a petty transparent snob, fair enough :rolleyes:

    you keep having them fits over people respectfully commerating 1916 as they see fit . republicans or free staters alike....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,019 ✭✭✭davycc


    donvito99 wrote: »
    At Arbour Hill?

    Exhibit A: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rruB4hGZNk8

    Some of the people present



    Desecration is a good word. The Brits don't allow the BNP to march past the Cenotaph.

    that video is from 2015;) these people are literally nothing to do with SF or there belfast parade the OP mentioned


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭donvito99


    davycc wrote: »
    so your just a petty transparent snob, fair enough :rolleyes:

    you keep having them fits over people respectfully commerating 1916 as they see fit . republicans or free staters alike....

    If recognising and respecting the dignity that ought to be maintained at Arbour Hill makes me a snob, then so be it.
    that video is from 2015 these people are literally nothing to do with SF or there belfast parade the OP mentioned

    Once again, the image from the Belfast commemoration is near identical to what is witnessed year in, year out at Arbour Hill - except the morons at Arbour Hill found it appropriate to attempt a DF ceremonial drill with dummy rifles. It's appropriate for a RA funeral, not Arbour Hill. The video illustrates the type of riff raff that exploit the perceived confusion surrounding who is the rightful heir of those who particpated in the Rising - the Defence Forces. End of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,575 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    Hey Don, you are showing your ignorance throughout this thread


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,212 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    donvito99 wrote: »
    At Arbour Hill?

    Exhibit A: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rruB4hGZNk8

    Some of the people present



    Desecration is a good word. The Brits don't allow the BNP to march past the Cenotaph.

    Give me one good reason why Arbour Hill is the perserve of anybody in particular.

    You have a right to be 'offended' but you are in 'it doesn't amount to a hill of beans' territory now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,019 ✭✭✭davycc


    donvito99 wrote: »
    If recognising and respecting the dignity that ought to be maintained at Arbour Hill makes me a snob, then so be it.



    Once again, the image from the Belfast commemoration is near identical to what is witnessed year in, year out at Arbour Hill - except the morons at Arbour Hill found it appropriate to attempt a DF ceremonial drill with dummy rifles. It's appropriate for a RA funeral, not Arbour Hill. The video illustrates the type of riff raff that exploit the perceived confusion surrounding who is the rightful heir of those who particpated in the Rising - the Defence Forces. End of.

    did you even look at that dodgy dissadent 1916 society video you found ? not 1 person in uniform most the lazy gimps in tracksuits and jeans.

    these anti good friday agreement people hate SF and have there own below parr sham 'ira' parade. you reallly dont have the first clue do you ? these morons are nothing to do with SF , so you can stop talking out of yer ass and grabbing the worse criminal dissadent vid you could find on youtube to try run down SF , pure lazy from yourself and you should withdraw your 'proof' to save yourself further deserved redicule. ..
    can i ask what is you obsession with our army and you not being not keen on pretty decent actors showing there respects ? have you served in our defencs forces/ security forces ? im ex DF myself and have no problem with re enactors getting involved. the more that take in interest in our military history the the better imho.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭donvito99


    davycc wrote: »

    these anti good friday agreement people hate SF and have there own below parr sham 'ira' parade. you reallly dont have the first clue do you ? these morons are nothing to do with SF , so you can stop talking out of yer ass and grabbing the worse criminal dissadent vid you could find on youtube to try run down SF , pure lazy from yourself and you should withdraw your 'proof' to save yourself further deserved redicule. ..
    can i ask what is you obsession with our army and you not being not keen on pretty decent actors showing there respects ? have you served in our defencs forces/ security forces ? im ex DF myself and have no problem with re enactors getting involved. the more that take in interest in our military history the the better imho.

    The above video was intended to illustrate - as I've already said - the propensity for people to believe that they can use monuments erected to the Rising leaders for their own perverted causes - in that I include the attempts by Sinn Féin to justify their past claims that the IRA were the true descendants of the Rising, that they were the true Oglaigh na hEireann and that they would not recognise the State created as a result of the Rising. Those who fell are memorialised at places like Arbour Hill. It is disgusting.

    This was the farce, attended by Deputy Adams, that took place on Friday. As a former DF member, tell me you're not disturbed by these people parading their, considering their disregard for the lives of DF personnel, namely Pvt Patrick Kelly?

    http://www.thejournal.ie/gerry-adams-sinn-fein-new-redmondites-2680778-Mar2016/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭donvito99


    Give me one good reason why Arbour Hill is the perserve of anybody in particular.

    .

    Repulicans and Unionists alike at times did not recognise this State or its Defence Forces, so why not allow the Orange Order in by that logic?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    donvito99 wrote: »
    Repulicans and Unionists alike at times did not recognise this State or its Defence Forces, so why not allow the Orange Order in by that logic?

    Let them parade there if they want??


    Can't see much local appetite for their particular brand of fundamental Christian bigotry getting well received though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭donvito99




    Can't see much local appetite for their particular brand of fundamental Christian bigotry getting well received though

    It would be received with the same paving stones and hoardings that were chucked at the guards on O'Connell Street in 2006.

    Both Republicans and Unionists shat all over the State and its army. Why should either of them be let in to Arbour Hill to proclaim the very revisionist history Gerry Adams was only too happy to condemn?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,363 ✭✭✭KingBrian2


    While the Deputy First Minister was attending the Parade in Dublin and clapping the very ones his comrades killed, his leader was showing where his affiliation lies by being up in Belfast.

    Why did Gerry fail to represent his constituents at the Parade in Dublin?

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2016/0327/777747-belfast-1916-parade/

    Presumable because he wants NI to be included in all these commemorations. A strong Nationalist community reside in those parts and feel every bit as much part of the festivities. Although they were well represented in the parade.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    donvito99 wrote: »
    It would be received with the same paving stones and hoardings that were chucked at the guards on O'Connell Street in 2006.

    Both Republicans and Unionists shat all over the State and its army. Why should either of them be let in to Arbour Hill to proclaim the very revisionist history Gerry Adams was only too happy to condemn?

    Presumably you rather it wasn't commerated so?

    As for long periods around the country it was republicans kept alive commerations so I don't see why all of a sudden they should be excluded tbh??


    I'm happy so long as people are commentating it within reason....if you wish to take a particular viewpoint and exclude others from commerationing it....seems somewhat spiteful and in bad taste






    As an aside I did like to see all those primary school plays of it

    A great way to teach history and a credit to whoever taught it up....it would be great if it was kept up every year and held as much a tradition as the nativity plays


  • Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Wait till ye see the parades tomorrow!
    Fabulous army lads, dressed in black berets & sunglasses!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭Needs Must


    Martin is welcome as he admits to his short comings, but Gerry is blinkered to his past and what makes a good republican.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,212 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    donvito99 wrote: »
    Repulicans and Unionists alike at times did not recognise this State or its Defence Forces, so why not allow the Orange Order in by that logic?

    Seems to be only you that has a problem with anybody using it. Anybody making respectful use is and should be welcomed.
    What kind of selective state do you want anyway?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭donvito99


    Anybody making respectful use is and should be welcomed.

    It's about as respectful as Benjamin Netanyahu at a joint session of the United States Congress.
    What kind of selective state do you want anyway?

    One where those who did not recognise it or its Defence Force for decades are prevented from rewriting history to their own credit.


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