Unionists demand Uisce be removed from man hole covers

Cee-Jay-Cee

I'm lost for words on this one, the small mindedness bigotry of these people is beyond comprehension. I sincerely hope the local borough council tell them to f**k off with themselves on this one.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/water/irish-water-crisis/irish-words-on-northern-ireland-manhole-covers-sparks-unionists-demand-for-their-removal-34520235.html

Valetta

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

I'm lost for words on this one, the small mindedness bigotry of these people is beyond comprehension. I sincerely hope the local borough council tell them to f**k off with themselves on this one.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/water/irish-water-crisis/irish-words-on-northern-ireland-manhole-covers-sparks-unionists-demand-for-their-removal-34520235.html

Ceart go leor.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

Cen fath?

CJhaughey

Its nearly Scottish Gaelic for water anyway, Uisge or Uisce!
If it was Uisge would it be more readily accepted?

bear1

Sweet suffering Jesus:

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/water/irish-water-crisis/irish-words-on-northern-ireland-manhole-covers-sparks-unionists-demand-for-their-removal-34520235.html

There must absolutely sweet fcuk all to do up the North that they look for ****e like this to complain about.
I can't help but think that the Unionists are just trying to stir as much crap as they can with idiotic requests and then have millions of pounds spent just to replace the word.
Utter madness.

SEPT 23 1989

better them arguing over man hole covers than murdering each other

cowboyBuilder

What about yeh ?

valoren

It's ironic that the town he calls home, Ballymeena, derives it's name from the Irish language.

DrumSteve

I thought it would be all uisce under the bridge at this stage

Squall Leonhart

Uisce faoin droichead??

bear1

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

better them arguing over man hole covers than murdering each other

I'm waiting for the riots to start because of it.

The Backwards Man

Just stick 'whatter' in between the two and they'll be happy then.

Squall Leonhart

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Just stick 'whatter' in between the two and they'll be happy then.

Whadder?

The Backwards Man

Squall Leonhart wrote: »

Whadder?

Na, you have to pronounce the ts. Ulster Scots isn't just some Mickey Mouse language where you can spell the words any way you want.

road_high

Economy a subsidised basket case (was Ballymena where Michelin tyres recently announced closing a huge plant??) yet they're worried about Uisce on manhole covers....you'd have to despair for Northern Ireland.

LDN_Irish

CJhaughey wrote: »

Its nearly Scottish Gaelic for water anyway, Uisge or Uisce!
If it was Uisge would it be more readily accepted?

I think they'd prefer the ulster scotch word, wodder.

The Backwards Man

LDN_Irish wrote: »

I think they'd prefer the ulster scotch word, wodder.

Whatter.

Only posh toffs in Bangor and Dalkey call it wodder.

postitnote

We're not all f*cking nutbag loony bigots. Unfortunately they're the noisiest and get the most attention though.

But yeah, for a town that has had it's fair share of employment catastrophes, this isn't exactly something any councillor in that town should be shouting about.

It's the age old problem up here.

Rather than actually sort out the mess and come up with some solutions to make the north a better a place its:

"DEFLECT! DEFLECT! LOOK AT THON MANHOLE COVER WITH THEIR FOREIGN WORDINGS AND SUCH! VOTE FOR US AND KEEP THEMUNS OUT!"

There's only one policy by the likes of the TUV and that's to keep divisions in place.

The rest of us sigh, keep our heads down and hope our job is secure for another month at least. Because not one of our 'representatives' gives a sh*t unless their own personal agenda is being fulfilled.

Speedwell

When I lived in Houston, Texas, there was a class of self-appointed white elites who objected to the ubiquitous Spanish names on everything in sight in town. Never mind that Houston was Spanish territory long before the Texans muscled in and started kissing America's sphincter. I had a boss, an overentitled racist cowboy, who was a perfect type. Our building was near a road named after Saint Philip, "San Felipe". Every time it came out of his mouth, it turned into "Sain Flippy". One of the engineers, Juan Cardenas, was renamed "Johnny Cardeenis". And so forth.

Eh, I don't know. I think it's illiterate and ignorant for know-nothings to butcher a language on purpose. Call me crazy.

armaghlad

Unfortunately this is common behaviour from Unionists. The slightest display of anything Irish will offend them. The TUV are a particularly sinister collection of bigots. The fact that they don't form part of the government means they can display their bigotry more openly, unlike the DUP who have had to tone down their hatred of all things Irish due to being partners in government with SF - although that hasn't stopped them engaging in the odd xenophobic/bigoted/sectarian slip now and again. Outsiders have a lazy analysis that both sides are as bad as each other, believe me they're not.

armaghlad

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

better them arguing over man hole covers than murdering each other

Yeah. Like Dublin.

screamer

Poor old unionists, England don't care about them, Ireland don't want them. It must be terrible to live your life with such an inferiority complex, and that surely muddies the uisce for them.

DrumSteve

armaghlad wrote: »

Yeah. Like Dublin.

Tbf, that wasnt over man hole covers.

TallGlass

Are Unionist just lunatics or whats the story there?

The things are more than likely made in China. I wonder do they buy products with other languages on them or have they not got a problem with that either, drive cars only from the UK.

Amazing what people can be offended by :rolleyes:

Jan Laco

Isn't it just as sad as people complaining of it not being on them/ been taken off??
Why does it have to be on? We all speak English.

Speedwell

Jan Laco wrote: »

Isn't it just as sad as people complaining of it not being on them/ been taken off??
Why does it have to be on? We all speak English.

You know, I'm an ignorant Yank immigrant and I could be wrong, but I'll give you the same question as I do to the people who wonder why I want to learn Irish.

"Uh, this is Ireland... isn't it?"

I was born in upstate New York as well, but when my family moved to Texas, I learned as much Spanish as the school taught me, because it was a cultural thing, and because I'd be damned if I let native Spanish speakers have the advantage over me of talking smack in front of me while I nodded and smiled. Not all motivations are noble. I was glad later that I did, though. Catch my half-Mexican nephews speaking it, though. They won't bother.

screamer

Jan Laco wrote: »

Isn't it just as sad as people complaining of it not being on them/ been taken off??
Why does it have to be on? We all speak English.

Well, in Ireland, Irish is an official language of the country, so I can see why it's there. Sure the same argument holds true in Wales, but they are fiercely proud of their language and utilise it in tandem with English, and do it very well.

bear1

Reminds me a bit of the story whereby some unionist lad drowned with the union jack swimming to the middle of the lake to remove the tricolour.

The Backwards Man

armaghlad wrote: »

Unfortunately this is common behaviour from Unionists. The slightest display of anything Irish will offend them. The TUV are a particularly sinister collection of bigots. The fact that they don't form part of the government means they can display their bigotry more openly, unlike the DUP who have had to tone down their hatred of all things Irish due to being partners in government with SF - although that hasn't stopped them engaging in the odd xenophobic/bigoted/sectarian slip now and again. Outsiders have a lazy analysis that both sides are as bad as each other, believe me they're not.

Great post. You only have to spend a few hours in the Londonderry suburbs of Creggan Heights or Ballymagroarty to realise that it's just one side that get all tetchy and petty about how things are named.

armaghlad

bear1 wrote: »

Reminds me a bit of the story whereby some unionist lad drowned with the union jack swimming to the middle of the lake to remove the tricolour.

If this is the same story I am thinking of it wasn't too long ago. He wasn't just a lad he was a pensioner iirc. A tragedy and an example of the type of pettiness that you have to endure in the north.

Nodin

armaghlad wrote: »

If this is the same story I am thinking of it wasn't too long ago. He wasn't just a lad he was a pensioner iirc. A tragedy and an example of the type of pettiness that you have to endure in the north.

A supporter of Willie Fraser if I recall.

Junkyard Tom

TallGlass wrote: »

Are Unionist just lunatics or whats the story there?

Some unionists are motivated by their hatred of anything that could be considered of "them'uns" - it's a type of anti-culture.

Willie Frazer was recently trying to organise a protest at the airport in Belfast because it was selling 'Irish' paraphernalia (probably made in China).

bear1

Yeah it was a pensioner.
Ahh mr. Frazer... The pure definition of a Cnut.

armaghlad

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Great post. You only have to spend a few hours in the Londonderry suburbs of Creggan Heights or Ballymagroarty to realise that it's just one side that get all tetchy and petty about how things are named.

Yes, you could also go to Culmore and get equally tetchy people.

I don't see any Nationalist mayors wetting their underpants over say, Ulster Scots signage.

The Backwards Man

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

Some unionists are motivated by their hatred of anything that could be considered of "them'uns" - it's a type of anti-culture.

Willie Frazer was recently trying to organise a protest at the airport in Belfast because it was selling 'Irish' paraphernalia (probably made in China).

To be fair to Jim Allister, and this is hopefully the only time I'll ever be defending him, he wouldn't be in the same league as Oor Willie. Allister is looking to bolster his support from curtain twitching, garden fete running, soda farl baking Presbyterian grannies. Frazer is a headcase.

armaghlad

TallGlass wrote: »

Are Unionist just lunatics or whats the story there?

No, many are good, honest and respectful people. Their politicians on the other hand... a lot of the things they do and/or say can be merely posturing to the gallery; in other cases they are merely just expressing their sincere bigoted beliefs - it usually just depends on the individual.

awec

postitnote wrote: »

We're not all f*cking nutbag loony bigots. Unfortunately they're the noisiest and get the most attention though.

But yeah, for a town that has had it's fair share of employment catastrophes, this isn't exactly something any councillor in that town should be shouting about.

It's the age old problem up here.

Rather than actually sort out the mess and come up with some solutions to make the north a better a place its:

"DEFLECT! DEFLECT! LOOK AT THON MANHOLE COVER WITH THEIR FOREIGN WORDINGS AND SUCH! VOTE FOR US AND KEEP THEMUNS OUT!"

There's only one policy by the likes of the TUV and that's to keep divisions in place.

The rest of us sigh, keep our heads down and hope our job is secure for another month at least. Because not one of our 'representatives' gives a sh*t unless their own personal agenda is being fulfilled.

Yea it's the TUV, hardly representative of unionism given their single MLA and only 13 councillors across the entire of NI.

armaghlad

The Backwards Man wrote: »

To be fair to Jim Allister, and this is hopefully the only time I'll ever be defending him, he wouldn't be in the same league as Oor Willie. Allister is looking to bolster his support from curtain twitching, garden fete running, soda farl baking Presbyterian grannies. Frazer is a headcase.

Jim Allister is a more intelligent, articulate version of Willie. Same league? Definitely. Jim just has a bit more cop on.

awec

armaghlad wrote: »

Yes, you could also go to Culmore and get equally tetchy people.

I don't see any Nationalist mayors wetting their underpants over say, Ulster Scots signage.

Sinn Fein wet their pants when a "Welcome to Northern Ireland" sign was erected at the border in 2012.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/sinn-fein-finds-new-northern-ireland-border-signs-hard-to-welcome-26884219.html

awec

armaghlad wrote: »

Jim Allister is a more intelligent, articulate version of Willie. Same league? Definitely. Jim just has a bit more cop on.

Willie Frazer is a nutjob, but yes they're two cheeks of the same arse.

armaghlad

awec wrote: »

Yea it's the TUV, hardly representative of unionism given their single MLA and only 13 councillors across the entire of NI.

They're basically made up of DUP deflectors who are the largest party in NI, so apart from a few policy differences they're essentially the same dinosaurs, just with a different roar.

armaghlad

awec wrote: »

Sinn Fein wet their pants when a "Welcome to Northern Ireland" sign was erected at the border in 2012.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/sinn-fein-finds-new-northern-ireland-border-signs-hard-to-welcome-26884219.html

Aye. Imagine being opposed to wasting public money.

awec

armaghlad wrote: »

They're basically made up of DUP deflectors who are the largest party in NI, so apart from a few policy differences they're essentially the same dinosaurs, just with a different roar.

Nah they're not really.

The DUP are a bunch of w@nkers (I can fully get behind that idea), but Allister's lost are a different breed entirely. I think there is a subset of the DUP (their bible bashing brigade) that could definitely be described as TUV-lite and I am sure they would have defected only for party loyalty but the DUP as a whole actually is more moderate (to an extent).

awec

armaghlad wrote: »

Aye. Imagine being opposed to wasting public money.

On Twitter the party’s Fermanagh and South Tyrone MLA Phil Flanagan protested: “People in this area don't want the signs, even if they cost nothing.”


NI is full of nutters. It's a wee goldfish bowl.

armaghlad

awec wrote: »

Nah they're not really.

The DUP are a bunch of w@nkers (I can fully get behind that idea), but Allister's lost are a different breed entirely. I think there is a subset of the DUP (their bible bashing brigade) that could definitely be described as TUV-lite and I am sure they would have defected only for party loyalty but the DUP as a whole actually is more moderate (to an extent).

Well I agree there are some moderates in the DUP, and some more extreme elements in the TUV, generally speaking I'd view them all as being much the same. Gregory Campbell for example wouldn't look out of place beside Sunny Jim.

awec

armaghlad wrote: »

Well I agree there are some moderates in the DUP, and some more extreme elements in the TUV, generally speaking I'd view them all as being much the same. Gregory Campbell for example wouldn't look out of place beside Sunny Jim.

Yea Campbell is a complete tool.

diomed

I usually feel I have to comment when the Sinn Féin people start on about things, but in this case I feel obliged to tell the Unionists to f*** off.

swimming in a sea

awec wrote: »

Sinn Fein wet their pants when a "Welcome to Northern Ireland" sign was erected at the border in 2012.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/sinn-fein-finds-new-northern-ireland-border-signs-hard-to-welcome-26884219.html

Also very funny whenever you hear a SF person on the radio trying to avoid at all costs saying "Northern Ireland"

I maybe wrong on this but didn't SF replace all the hospital signs with bilingual signs when they had the health ministry and then later they were all replaced again when the DUP had the health ministry. They have a rich government up there.

diomed

swimming in a sea wrote: »

They have a rich government up there.

A complete set of tools.

armaghlad

diomed wrote: »

I usually feel I have to comment when the Sinn Féin people start on about things, but in this case I feel obliged to tell the Unionists to f*** off.

SF has it's own morons that goes without saying. They pale into insignificance though when compared to their Unionist counterparts.

So far, is it 1 Councillor?

It hardly seems to be some big issue amongst the Unionist masses!