Missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 Part 2

stuar

As you might have heard another (possible)piece of MH370 found off coast of Mozambique after a larger piece found on other side of Madagascar in July (Re-Union Island).
I think that tallies with my first hunch that the plane flew to Diego Garcia, having flown low over the Maldives as reported in the news a couple of days after it vanished, which was quickly rubbished by everybody officially looking for it and dimissed.

Already NBC are reporting Australia saying it's consistent with drift pattern from the search area.
Possible MH370 Debris in Mozambique 'Consistent' With Drift Theory: Australia
"The location of the debris is consistent with drift modelling commissioned by the Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB) and reaffirms the search area for MH370," Australian Transport Minister Darren Chester said in a statement.
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/missing-jet/possible-mh370-debris-mozambique-consistent-drift-theory-australia-n530826

According to this the current's don't add up.


http://www.eoearth.org/view/article/154990/

Let's look back over a few things from when it went missing:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=89414856

Edit: Sorry things may not be the perfect timeline, I'm typing some and pasting some from my original posts.

I believe from where the piece's/debris were found on both side's of Madagascar that the US were behind the disappearance, for what reason I don't know, maybe to check China's military capabilities in detecting what happened?, but they would have definitely seen MH370 from the equipment they had in Thailand for the war games and their over the horizon military radar they have on Diego Garcia Air Force Base.

Malaysia also knew what happened but covered it up for the US military, I believe the US took wireless control of the plane, shut down communications, transponders and flew it to Diego Garcia.

There was speculation about Ukrainian gold stolen, who knows?, but it was at the same time Ukraine was kicking off.

First Flight Radar were caught changing the flightpath of MH370.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMxm1Nv1QEY

The first few days after MH370 vanished the search started off the west coast of Vietnam, then was relocated to the west coast of Malaysia, THEN! Malaysia said that the plane had actually turned 180 off the west coast of Malaysia, flew over the Malaysian peninsula towards the Andaman Sea.

Like searching the wrong sea for a week when Malaysian radar saw it passing over the Malaysian penninsula?, if you want to believe that, good.
If a burgular was trying to break in your back door and you saw him, the police arrive, would you spend your time helping them search your front garden, taking finger prints off your front door for an hour before telling them he was actually at the back?

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=89481702&postcount=20

Relatives of some on board were saying the phones were still ringing, a black photo from one of the passengers Philip Wood's phone is sent to his wife with the co-ordinates of Diego Garcia attached.
The site has been updated from 2 years ago but here's the link.
http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/phillipwood.html

Phones taken on board flight MH370 are still ringing FOUR DAYS after the plane's disappearance.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-phantom-3228868

I know the above link taken from the mirror but it was widely reported 2 years ago.


http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=89547914&postcount=27

Maldives Residents Saw Missing Plane MH370: People Describe Seeing 'Low-Flying Jumbo Jet' Over Houses on 8 March Morning
http://www.ibtimes.co.in/maldives-residents-saw-missing-plane-mh370-people-describe-seeing-low-flying-jumbo-jet-over-houses-on-8-march-morning-543849

MH370: Plane not sighted over Maldives, says Hisham

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTLRi1tGmiw

Then the cargo was mentioned, 3-4 tonnes of Mangoteens, only problem with that is that when I checked, Mangoteens from Malaysia were not in season.

Quote:
A shipment of mangosteens drew particular public interest.

So much so that police, in a report on asiaone, clarified that the supplier of the cargo of mangosteens on board missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 was from one particular area, but the fruits were not actually from there.

The fruits were gathered from various orchards across the country, the report said, quoting Inspector-General of Police Tan Sri Khalid Abu Bakar Khalid was asked to clarify the origins of the fruits after a report from a local daily which quoted a top agricultural official claimed that according to their records, no orchards in the state had produced the shipment that was allegedly part of the cargo on board MH370.
http://www.emirates247.com/news/mh37...04-13-1.545328
Not only had the mangoteens not originated where they were supposed to have, but they were not in season either.



Khalid’s response comes after the Federal Agricultural Marketing Authority (FAMA) asserted that mangosteens were not in season in Johor when the Boeing 777-200ER aircraft disappeared last month.

Past news reports quoted Khalid saying that the fruits were sourced from Muar and that the police are digging into every nitty-gritty detail of the cargo, including information on the workers who plucked the fruit and the individuals who were supposed to receive the mangosteens in China.


“I did not say the mangosteens were from Muar!!! I said that the supplier was from Muar!!! and that we will investigate everything, including the extent of who plucked the fruits,” Khalid told reporters after launching a police function at the Buddhist Maha Vihara here.
http://www.themalaymailonline.com/ma...-not-from-muar

I don't know why Malaysian officials said there was mangoteens in the cargo, or what was there if not mangoteens.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZfR_7Nakew

I read about gold being in the cargo hold, a quote from another site:
Quote:
Another rumour doing the rounds is that there was 4.5 tonnes of gold bullion in the cargo hold.
http://www.politics.ie/forum/current...ml#post7818889

Where has all Ukraine's gold gone?

https://www.rt.com/business/207347-ukraine-gold-reserves-gone/

Maybe some of the Ukrainian gold stolen the day before somehow made it onto MH370?

Ukraine’s Gold Reserves Secretely Flown Out and Confiscated by the New York Federal Reserve?

According to Iskra News: At 2 a.m. this morning [March 7] an unmarked transport plane was on the runway at Borispol Airport (right) [east of Kiev]. According to airport staff, before the plane came to the airport, four trucks and two Volkswagen minibuses arrived, all the truck license plates missing.
http://nsnbc.me/2014/03/15/ukraines-...deral-reserve/

Ukraine Gold Reserves Reported To Be Hastily Aircrafted To U.S
http://www.metal.com/newscontent/584...crafted-to-u.s

New York Fed on Ukrainian gold reserves: Don't ask us
http://www.gata.org/node/13761


Did the Fed Steal Ukraine’s Gold? (video)
http://www.corbettreport.com/mp4/qfc017.mp4?_=1
https://www.corbettreport.com/did-the-fed-steal-ukraines-gold-video/

While the issue of Ukrainian gold is a conspiracy in it's own right, I'm only speculating on whether or not there was any gold in the cargo.





Another contradiction about 4 passengers:

Four passengers not onboard MH370 replaced by standby passengers
The mystery behind the four passengers who checked in but did not board the Malaysia Airlines (MAS) flight MH 370 was finally “cleared” after it was revealed that four standby passengers had taken their seats.

Following a barrage of questions on the matter, MAS group chief executive officer Ahmad Jauhari Yahya said of the 227 passengers, four who had bought tickets did not turn up to catch the flight to Beijing at the Kuala Lumpur International Airport (KLIA).

Their places were taken by four people, who were standby passengers, he explained, however he did not reveal more about the four passengers.

Inspector-General of Police Tan Sri Khalid Abu Bakar told reporters that every person who had booked a ticket for the flight had boarded the plane.
He maintained that that is what the police found in their investigations.
"Let me make it simple, everyone who was supposed to be onboard, was on the flight," Khalid was quoted as saying yesterday.

Khalid's statement caused confusion as the Department of Civil Aviation (DCA) had earlier claimed that four passengers did not get on the plane.

DCA director-general Datuk Azharuddin Abdul Rahman told reporters that the five had failed to board and their bags were all removed from the plane, as per the SOP, before take-off.

He said only one woman did not get onboard as she had call MAS to cancel her booking.

Flight MH370 flew from KLIA with 227 passengers of 14 nationalities and an all-Malaysian crew of 12 onboard. It never reached its destination, Beijing.
http://news.malaysia.msn.com/tmi/fou...dby-passengers

What's conflicting about the above story is firstly is the obvious, Malaysian Airlines chief executive officer Ahmad Jauhari Yahya and Inspector-General of Police Tan Sri Khalid Abu Bakar contradicting each other about whether 4 people did or didn't get on the flight.

Then the response Ahmad gave that 4 standby passengers took their seats, this is strange to have 4 standby passengers when there were still empty seats on the plane and there was no need to have stand-by passengers.

There were 239 people total onboard.
Malaysia Airlines operates the Boeing 777-200 on long-haul flights with 35 seats of Business Class and 247 seats of Economy Class.

http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Malaysia_Airlines/Malaysia_Airlines_Boeing_777-200.php

MH 370-08 March 2014-KUL - BJS Seat List
http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/content/dam/malaysia-airlines/mas/PDF/MH370/MH370%20-%20Seating%20plan.pdf

It is the world's largest twinjet and has a typical seating capacity for 314 to 451 passengers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_777

Scruffy19 wrote: »

Think I will bounce in with this theory!

I know that it has been mentioned before in this thread about Diego Garcia! Something popped up on my Facebook (yes i said facebook) page today about this Naval base!

These are the facts that came from the post:
* Diego Garcia is a US Military island base in the Indian Ocean
* Diego Garcia has never been mentioned to the public
* Diego Garcia has a fully operational runway and Airport
* Diego Garcia is 2,142 miles from Kuala Lumpur (Malaysia)
* The island was leased by Britain in 1966. It is due for renewal in 2014
* Diego Garcia flight co-ordinates were logged into the renown Pilot's Flight Plan Simulator
* The pilot's flight simulator has 'remote take-over' capabilities
* The data from the pilot's flight simulator has now been erased
* Flight MH370 was under 'suspicious cargo' surveillance by the GRU (Russian Main Intelligence)
* 20 of the passengers work for a leading edge company specializing in futuristic warfare and technology
* Australian Military Radar Base: The Jindalee Operational Radar Network has the capabilities of detecting movements within a radius of 37,000km
* Malaysian authorities have pleaded with the US and Australia to release to them information from their top secret radar bases in Australia
* Island residents of the Maldives (647 miles north of Diego Garcia) reported seeing a huge low flying aircraft heading SOUTH which is the direction of Diego Garcia at 6.15am the morning after it 'disappeared' from radar
* The time of departure from Kuala Lumpur to the time of the plane's sighting is accurate
* The National Maldives Defence Force dismissed these eye witness accounts on the premise of no radar detection
* It is public knowledge that flight MH370 was not detectable, or had lost signal to radar
* Almost every member of the public had no idea there was an island in the Indian Ocean housing a US Military base and Airport before the above post was shared
* Diego Garcia has been completely dismissed from the International search, and completely dismissed from public investigative speculation

There was also information regarding the photo that Phillip Wood (manager at IBM) messaged to someone! The photo was just of a black picture, taken with a Iphone 5! Watch the video at the following page:

http://www.westernjournalism.com/shock-claim-flight-370-diego-garcia-per-gps-data/

Surely this base would have the best military radar equipment in the world, how could they not pick up a track from a 777 flying in the middle of the Indian Ocean??

Here is a photo of the Naval base in the indian ocean! Anybody else have any thoughts on this?

stuar wrote: »

No matter what happened to this plane, theres still a cover-up, Malaysian opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim stated yesterday that he signed off on a marconi radar for the Malaysian govt in 1994 while finance minister.

He accused the Malaysian air force of concealing vital information and stated it was one of the most advanced radar systems in that part of the world (excluding diego garcia).
It crossed 5 provences in the Malaysian peninsula, yet the Malaysian Military said nothing for days, the question I ask is WHY?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K-JO3PM9PE

Malaysia's Anwar accuses government of MH370 cover-up

He described it as "not only unacceptable but not possible, not feasible" that it could travel across "at least four" Malaysian states undetected, adding: "I believe the government knows more than us".

"We don't have the sophistication of the United States or Britain but still we have the capacity to protect our borders," he stressed.

The radar system, based near the South China Sea, covers mainland Malaysia.

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asiapacific/malaysia-s-anwar-accuses/1058358.html

If the plane was simply crashed/hijacked/technical fault/whatever, why didn't the Malaysian air force state what they knew, when they knew it?, they waited days while they and others checked the South China sea, it just doesn't add up that they kept so quiet about this for so long, then eventually admitted that they thought they knew it flew across their airspace.

It's been noticable since day one that MSM journalists just haven't been asking the questions they should be asking, I don't think anybody with half a brain can seriously say there is no cover-up, yet nobody is saying it.

China may have picked up a/the signal from the black box, but even that is still a maybe?.

Just some points that remain elusive up till now and still nobody asking the questions.

1) The obvious Malaysian military/gov't cover-up, half truths and down right lies, nobody seems to bothered to ask them "WHY?"

2) The flightradar24.com mysterious MH370/MAS370 re-appearance after it "Vanished" and turned, yet flightradar24.com somehow tracked the flight over Vietnam then it vanished, how could this be and who put it up there?

3) The phones that continued to ring for a couple of days after the 8th, I really can't imagine a cell mast at the bottom of the Indian ocean.

Originally Posted by vellakare View Post

1. I'll address these in turn. Anwar is not just someone, hes quite a divisive force for Malaysians. Not that I like the bunch of crooks in charge, I just don't trust ideologues and demagogues. Heck, noone believes hes gay now anyway. Though he was allegedly when he was younger when studied at MCKK Boarding School (*Malay College Kuala Kangsar). The gay charge is just something he'll be acquitted of later on. Its just to inconvenience the opposition who are really just a nice soft sounding version of the mob in charge, who will end up the same as Barisan in time.

2. There is a lot of speculation in Malaysia regarding MH370, but the most common theory now going around is that its a drone hijacking done by US military because of what was on board. Two loud sonic booms were heard at Marang, Terranganu state at 1.45am Malaysian time that night.

3. This coincides with the time of the 'turnaround'. It was then flown to 45,000 feet which incapacitated passengers and crew. It would take 15-20 minutes for them to suffocate.

4. At 6.15am a low flying plan was seen going over the Maldives. This incidentally coincides with the distance MH370 could fly from the South China Sea from its last known position.

5. It is not known where it went after that, but my money is on Diego Garcia.

6. Why? Defence equipment, documents were on board.
Who? The Americans.
Do the Malaysians know? No. But the Australians and British CERTAINLY DO.
Where are the passengers and crew? Dead. The Americans choose to
potentially save 2 Million or more lives by sacrificing 200.

7. For all Malaysia's supposed faults, noone really gives a damn whether you are gay or straight over there. Its painted out to be a lot stricter than it is, whereas everyone knows the flaws with the democratic system. The racial composition of society and the tendency of around 1/6th of the Muslims to have militantly racist and violent tendencies means that while ostensibly peaceful and stable, its a pressure cooker that needs to be controlled.

Everything you have in Ireland you can have in Malaysia at 1/2 the price, except alcohol which is expensive. The bars open until 3am and later. Anything, and I MEAN anything, legal and illegal, within reason, can be obtained in two phone calls and 30 minutes. Mind, certain items might be very expensive, alcohol, and certain drugs.

8. Was Malaysia incompetent? No. I've been through KLIA and other Malaysian Airports enough times to see their security procedures, and they don't take chances. They mght have flaws, but security is not one of them. Thats why it points toward it being a military inside job.

9. The final bit will be finding the black box. But it won't be real black box. It will be a fake, planted to fool officials, investigators and placate public opinion. When the news of this does come out, there will be no truth in the news and no news in the truth.

You Can’t Handle The Truth! Boeing’s Secret Patent
According to Boeing’s super secret development company Boeing Phantom Works and the Federal Government, you can not handle the truth! It refers to the Safety of Flight in ”Fly by Wire” (FBW) Aircraft. What is a Fly by Wire Aircraft you ask? Well simply put it is an aircraft that is flown by electronic signals rather than by cables or hydraulic systems

Someone discovered that there just may be a problem with this system of flight control. Boeing filed for a Patent to protect technology that they hope will keep any hijacking or jamming of the control systems in their 777 airliner protected. The Government immediately attached the Invention Secrecy Act to the Patent. It disappeared from the patent office online archives here.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/03...secret-patent/

Then there were military exercises going on all around MH370 at the time it vanished, absolutely nothing mentioned on the news.

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U.S. Marines infiltrate the beach head as part of an amphibious demonstration at Hat Yao Beach, Kingdom of Thailand, during Cobra Gold 2014, Feb. 14
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobra_Gold#Cobra_Gold_2014






Cobra Gold is an annual Thai-U.S. co-sponsored joint and multinational exercise. Particpating nations include: Kingdom of Thailand, United States, Singapore, Japan, Indonesia, Republic of Korea and Malaysia.


https://www.facebook.com/ExerciseCobraGold

Cope Tiger begins in Thailand
Release Number: 010314
11th March 2014
3/11/2014 - KORAT ROYAL THAI AIR FORCE BASE, Thailand --
Aviation and ground units from the U.S. Air Force, the Royal Thai Air Force, Navy and Army, and the Republic of Singapore Air Force is participating in the Cope Tiger 2014 Field Training Exercise (FTX) in Thailand March 10-21.

CT14 is an annual, multilateral, aerial large force exercise conducted in the Asia-Pacific region. It takes place at Korat Royal Thai Air Force base in Thailand.

More than 760 personnel will participate in the exercise, including approximately 160 U.S. service members and 600 service members from Thailand and Singapore.

The FTX will involve a combined total of 76 aircraft and 42 air defense units, including 10 U.S. F-15C/D aircraft, and 15 F-16s, six JAS-39s, six F-5s, five ALPHA JETs, six L-39s, one C-130, one BELL 412, and one UH-1H from the Royal Thai Air Force. The Republic of Singapore Air Force will deploy eight F-16s, six F-15SGs, six F-5s, one G550, one KC-135, and two AS332 to the exercise.

The exercise enhances combined readiness and interoperability, reinforces the U.S. commitment to the Asia-Pacific region, and demonstrates U.S. capability to project combined and joint forces strategically in a multilateral environment.
http://www.pacaf.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123403175




A Royal Thai Air Force F-16 conducts tactical flight operations during last year's Cope Tiger at Korat Royal Thai Air Force Base, Thailand, March 12, 2013. Approximately 160 U.S. service members are participating in CT14 March 10-12, 2014, which offers an unparalleled opportunity to conduct a wide spectrum of large force employment air operations and strengthen military-to-military ties with two key partner nations, Thailand and Singapore. (U.S. Air Force photo/Capt. Joshua Gunderson



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdoUFDUh1vI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q30VDL_eZ1s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCfKQdwI1B4

The soundtrack of this one.."Your Gonna Crash"....Published on Feb 15, 2014 (almost a month before MH370 crashed?)

Exercise Cobra Gold 2014

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMhfYcenhbM

Then they said the plane probably landed but the don't know coz........

The MH370 investigation team now says the plane most likely landed.
The US won't share radar data from the JORN over the horizon radar situated in Australia, this radar is rumoured to be able to monitor as far as northern China.[/SIZE]
Had the flight took the route to the southern Indian ocean off the coast of Australia it would have been picked up so I think the search that has been going on is theatre on a big scale.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJE5JdYcDMk

MH370 Did Not Crash? Investigation Team Now Says Plane Possibly Landed Somewhere Else Instead of Ending in Ocean.

Now the investigating officials have said that they might ultimately give up looking at the ocean and possibly scrap the entire idea that it ever crashed into the ocean.
What this means is that, the International team will now focus its attention to and take seriously, the various theories and rumors doing its rounds in the Internet that the plane could have been actually hijacked and landed somewhere.
http://www.ibtimes.co.in/articles/549068/20140422/missing-malaysia-plane-mh370-landed-somewhere-crash.htm

MH370 probe team may be forced to ‘start again’

He said this included the aid of the Joint Defence Facility Pine Gap, located in Alice Springs in Australia's Northern Territory.
The facility is jointly run by Australia and the US, including its Central Intelligence Agency, National Security Agency and National Reconnaissance Office.
Malaysian authorities had also requested aid from the Australian and US governments, focusing on the Jindalee Operational Radar Network satellite. The over-the-horizon radar is able to monitor both air and sea movements across 37,000 sq km.
http://www.nst.com.my/nation/general/mh370-probe-team-may-be-forced-to-start-again-1.574277

Missing Flight 370 search: Plane landing revisited, ocean search may go to land.
One of the countries that refused the Malaysian government access to a satellite was the United States.
The Jindalee Operational Radar Network satellite has over-the-horizon radar and monitors both air and sea movements across 230,000 square miles.
The Malaysian authorities were told by U.S. representatives that they could not view that information and that the satellite did not pick up any information on Flight 370. The source said “that was the end of it.”
http://www.examiner.com/article/missing-flight-370-search-plane-landing-revisited-as-ocean-search-may-turn-land

"B-777 has not one but four independent ELTs of two types. It seems fantastic that they would all have become inoperative. Unless, the plane hasn't crashed at all. It is this aspect that is most perplexing," said Banerjee
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/i...w/31871665.cms




I believe the plane went missing as a direct result of war games taking place between US, Malaysia, Thailand, Singapore, Japan, Indonesia and South Korea.

These wargames called Cobra Gold and Cope Tiger were being carried out in the exact area at exact time as MH370 vanished.

All of the above participants have a common enemy, China.
They couldn't take a chinese plane as it could spark a war, the next best thing is a plane half full of chinese people.
I speculate the above war games tested both the participants and regional enemies capabilities, technology, reactions.

Maybe the US were seeing how good their cloaking and cloning technology worked in real life.

To see if China could counteract it, if China demanded it's citizens released immediately from Diego Garcia it would show some of their capabilities.

All speculation on my part.[/QUOTE]

stuar wrote: »

How many c0ck-ups can one single event have until some people start to think theres something not right here?



Malaysia Airlines Plane MH370: Relatives Claim 'Giant Cover-Up' Following 'Ping' Revelation

Grief-stricken loved ones of passengers on missing flight MH370 have accused the authorities of "a giant cover-up" after they admitted the plane is not in the southern Indian Ocean.





https://uk.news.yahoo.com/malaysia-airlines-plane-mh370-relatives-claim-giant-cover-170858887.html#g5xUIlo


Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370: search delayed as 'pings' found to be red herring
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/malaysia/10861947/Malaysia-Airlines-Flight-MH370-search-delayed-as-pings-found-to-be-red-herring.html

Flight MH370: search crews were looking in the wrong place
http://www.theweek.co.uk/world-news/flight-mh370/57641/flight-mh370-search-crews-were-looking-in-the-wrong-place#ixzz339Woj7hc

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Missing Malaysian Airlines flight MH370: Officials confirm Indian Ocean search area is not final resting place of lost plane.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/missing-malaysian-airlines-flight-mh370-officials-confirm-indian-ocean-search-area-is-not-final-resting-place-of-lost-plane-9450209.html

Flight MH370: 17 conspiracy theories after Australians say plane is NOT in Indian Ocean search area

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/flight-mh370-17-conspiracy-theories-3620032#ixzz339UyI3cP