Election - Poll

robdonn

So the General Election 2016 is 24 hours away, would be interesting to see if people know who they are going to vote for as this has been seen as one of the shortest campaigns in modern Irish history.

So who are you going to give your No.1 to?

PopePalpatine

Poor Green Party, they've been totally forgotten about after the 2007-11 coalition. :pac:

robdonn

PopePalpatine wrote: »

Poor Green Party, they've been totally forgotten about after the 2007-11 coalition. :pac:

Haha, whoops! I completely forgot about them! I should have had an 'other' option.

gaynorvader

Lost all residual respect for Fine Gael when I saw their ad telling us they were going to "get rid of Fianna Fáil's hated USC", the USC that's been in effect for 4 years of FG's governing and which they initially increased. I'd vote FF before I'd vote for FG, at least they never paid to have our water sold to us.

Kiwi in IE

I'm still unsure whether Labour or SD will get #1.

Kiwi in IE

Ok I decided to make the final decision now, while looking at the options on that poll, so I am sorted for tomorrow. SD!

robdonn

Kiwi in IE wrote: »

Ok I decided to make the final decision now, while looking at the options on that poll, so I am sorted for tomorrow. SD!

I think because I'm living in London, and therefore can't vote, I am a lot more interested in the election this year. If I was back home, and had an SD candidate in my constituency, I would give them No.1.

Huntergonzo

It's a difficult one, I'm undecided between not voting (which I have no guilt about) or voting for the Social Democrats, which in Meath East basically equates to not voting because sadly the establishment parties are going to take all the seats at a canter.

The SD's are probably the most socially Liberal party which is good but their policy on schools is far too mild, multi-denominational schools are completely impractical and promote needless segregation.

Also from a selfish point of view, I come from a farming background and the SD's have almost nothing in their manifesto about this sector, except basically they want to plant a few more trees, which shows no understanding of the difficulties facing Irish farmers today and that's disappointing.

Gordon

Suggest poll addition - not eligible to vote.

robdonn

Gordon wrote: »

Suggest poll addition - not eligible to vote.

Is there a way to edit a poll after it has been created? I'd like to add that, as well as 'Other'.

Canadel

Kiwi in IE wrote: »

I'm still unsure whether Labour or SD will get #1.

Just be grateful you even have the option. No candidates from either party in Mayo. An elderly AAA/PbP candidate is getting my No. 1.

Kiwi in IE

Canadel wrote: »

Just be grateful you even have the option. No candidates from either party in Mayo. An elderly AAA/PbP candidate is getting my No. 1.

I find it ridiculous that you can't vote for the party you support if no candidate in area. If there was no SD or Lab here, I think I'd just feck the polling card into the range.

Shrap

Kiwi in IE wrote: »

I find it ridiculous that you can't vote for the party you support if no candidate in area. If there was no SD or Lab here, I think I'd just feck the polling card into the range.

Feeling somewhat that way inclined tonight, as I'm no closer to knowing who is my least worst (and therefore No.1) than I was last week. Grrr, I hate voting for independents - last thing I want is our govt getting hung up on every decision on the whim of a bunch of single issue people who have no mandate in common whatsoever. Of course, the other last thing I want is any of the large parties to spend the next term fending off anything divisive.

For the first time ever, I'm genuinely stuck. Will have to go green and the one independent with principals I like, I think. Feels like I might as well just burn the card and save myself the trip to town tbh :mad:

Tis bad when I carefully examined the Simpson caricatures above, in the hopes of being inspired at the last minute!

L.Jenkins

PopePalpatine wrote: »

Poor Green Party, they've been totally forgotten about after the 2007-11 coalition. :pac:

I assume the Green Party will go in the way of the Progressive Democrats.

We have atleast 2 Independents running in the Roscommon/Galway constituency. I'm undecided on who to vote for as of yet. Sinn Fein have a Candidate who is only 22. I know I sound like an ass, but lack of life experience would be my major concern when voting for her. Her heart is in the right place though and maybe in 10 years, I would consider voting for her.

Renua and AAA/PBP, I won't vote for. AAA from some debates I've seen, need to get their shit together first and Renua seem a little too far right in my opinion. Lucindas' 23% flat rate tax might look good on paper, but will it balance the books at the end of the day.

ShooterSF

Kiwi in IE wrote: »

I find it ridiculous that you can't vote for the party you support if no candidate in area. If there was no SD or Lab here, I think I'd just feck the polling card into the range.

I want to vote SD but Meath West has none. My usual next would be SF for their liberal social views but we have the one bloody candidate who opposed their own abortion bill.

We also probably have THE worst candidate in the country who I've been publicly canvassing AGAINST. I give you The Christian and Jobs Action Party

Kiwi in IE

ShooterSF wrote: »

We also probably have THE worst candidate in the country who I've been publicly canvassing AGAINST. I give you The Christian and Jobs Action Party

Hahaha! I feel slightly disappointed that we haven't got a fruitcake of the calibre here

sheep?

I think it's SD for me, but I doubt poor Leonard Kelly will be anywhere near a seat this year. I think he's 80/1.

I do feel however, that the SD have had a strong campaign. I hope this transfers into votes/seats. After his strong showing in the second debate I wonder if Stephen Donnelly regrets not having a few more candidates around the country?

Gordon

robdonn wrote: »

Is there a way to edit a poll after it has been created? I'd like to add that, as well as 'Other'.

I think so, yeah.

pauldla

Won't be voting, but strongly urge those of ye at home and who are registered to get out there and do the do!

mansize

Kiwi in IE wrote: »

Hahaha! I feel slightly disappointed that we haven't got a fruitcake of the calibre here

I've Kate Bopp!!!

Shrap

mansize wrote: »

I've Kate Bopp!!!

HAHAHAhaaahaaaha..heh. *ahem* Sorry for your troubles

Is she running again then? I didn't drive out of Clare in the last 3 weeks, so missed the posters if she had any.

Cabaal

ShooterSF wrote: »

We also probably have THE worst candidate in the country who I've been publicly canvassing AGAINST. I give you The Christian and Jobs Action Party

Nah, I can beat you on that.
One of my local candidates is Paddy "I love working for lolek ltd" Manning.

The only gay person who's seriously religious that they could find who is against marriage equality

smacl

mansize wrote: »

I've Kate Bopp!!!

We've Paul Murphy. Myself and the other half are concerned we might get trapped in the polling area if we attempt to vote Labour...

lazygal

ShooterSF wrote: »

I want to vote SD but Meath West has none. My usual next would be SF for their liberal social views but we have the one bloody candidate who opposed their own abortion bill.

We also probably have THE worst candidate in the country who I've been publicly canvassing AGAINST. I give you The Christian and Jobs Action Party

He did give us the Strident Secularist Crusade, an awesome term.

mansize

Shrap wrote: »

HAHAHAhaaahaaaha..heh. *ahem* Sorry for your troubles

Is she running again then? I didn't drive out of Clare in the last 3 weeks, so missed the posters if she had any.

Offaly is her new found home! The husband is running in Haiti..., sorry, I mean Tipperary

mansize

Cabaal wrote: »

Nah, I can beat you on that.
One of my local candidates is Paddy "I love working for lolek ltd" Manning.

The only gay person who's seriously religious that they could find who is against marriage equality

He's not religious- just attention starved

Shrap

mansize wrote: »

Offaly is her new found home! The husband is running in Haiti..., sorry, I mean Tipperary

Heehee, I like you.

Running what in Haiti?

Gosh, she moved last year then? I might actually have had something to do with that..... Seems like you might enjoy reading what happened, expect PM.

mansize

She apparently lives in the bit of Tipp that is in Offaly now...

Canvassing yesterday met a toothless yokel that declared his was voting for Katie Bopp cos she opposed abortion- was tempted to offer him a can of Dutch Gold not to bother!

Shrap

mansize wrote: »

Canvassing yesterday

Yesterday?! Thought there was a moratorium? Or is that only meeja related?

sheep?

Yeh, just broadcast media.

Shrap

lazygal wrote: »

He did give us the Strident Secularist Crusade, an awesome term.

All we need to do is add Party to that really. As a 'militant' atheist, they'd have my vote immediately.....whoever 'they' are.

recedite

ShooterSF wrote: »

We also probably have THE worst candidate in the country who I've been publicly canvassing AGAINST. I give you The Christian and Jobs Action Party

Cool.... Donald Trump's oirish grandad!

magicbastarder

voted green #1, labour #2, socdem #3. i figure the socdem candidate (roisin shortall) is safe, labour (john lyons) much less so, very likely to lose his seat to FF or FG, so figured he needed the preference more than shortall.

Hotblack Desiato

ShooterSF wrote: »

I give you The Christian and Jobs Action Party

Jaysus, either he stokes boilers for a living or he's got hypertension bad enough to kill him before the year is out. Seriously.

Cabaal

I'm seriously happy to see Social Democrats trending ahead of Renua in all the exit poles.

The RTÉ exit poll this morning shows that based on first preference votes the parties are at these percentages:

Fine Gael 24.8%

Fianna Fáil 21.1%

Sinn Féin 16%

Labour 7.1%

Independents 11%

AAA/PBP 4.7%

Soc Dems 3.7%

Green Party 3.6

Independent Alliance 3%

Renua 2.4%

Others 2.6%

I think had they more candidates they could have finished this election around the 10% mark.

robdonn

Cabaal wrote: »

I'm seriously happy to see Social Democrats trending ahead of Renua in all the exit poles.



I think had they more candidates they could have finished this election around the 10% mark.

It's looking like they're possibly going to get the 7 seats and the 2%+ of votes that they were looking for, which means if we get a hung Dáil then they'll actually receive government funding for their next election campaign. And with more time, and far more awareness, they'll probably have a good few more candidates and support. They could end up being one of the larger parties in opposition.

I'd say at this point a hung Dáil is looking very likely unless FF and FG go back on their word and form a coalition. And if so, a petition will be up in minutes to ask the president to dissolve the Dáil again.

Cabaal

robdonn wrote: »

I'd say at this point a hung Dáil is looking very likely unless FF and FG go back on their word and form a coalition. And if so, a petition will be up in minutes to ask the president to dissolve the Dáil again.

Its been 37 years since a hung Dáil occurred, I'd expect the partys to backtrack on their previous comments rather then let is happen.

FG will bring in independents etc before they'll take their chances at another election. In fairness the likes of FF have done similar in the past

robdonn

Cabaal wrote: »

Its been 37 years since a hung Dáil occurred, I'd expect the partys to backtrack on their previous comments rather then let is happen.

FG will bring in independents etc before they'll take their chances at another election. In fairness the likes of FF have done similar in the past

So basically there is either going to be a FF/FG government, or FF and FG are flirting the pants off every independent in the country right now?

Cabaal

robdonn wrote: »

So basically there is either going to be a FF/FG government, or FF and FG are flirting the pants off every independent in the country right now?

Basically yeah, neither would surprise me

Cabaal

more good news!

The SocDems look set to win more than their current three TDs. There’s less good news for Renua with party leader Lucinda Creighton in a dogfight for her own seat in Dublin Bay South.

Lets hope that doesn't go well for her

robdonn

Cabaal wrote: »

more good news!



Lets hope that doesn't go well for her

She's not doing too badly, at 10% with half the boxes opened. SD candidate Lynch is well behind at 6%. Looks like a bad constituency to be an independent in.

https://twitter.com/TJ_Politics/status/703531014619062272

Kiwi in IE

Can FF/SF form any sort of government out of the exit poll results? Unsure what criteria for forming minority government is in IE. Starting to feel scared and wish I'd just voted FG!

robdonn

Kiwi in IE wrote: »

Starting to feel scared and wish I'd just voted FG!

I think that's a huge issue with these elections, especially when it's as unclear as it is this year. We have to decide whether to vote for the candidate we want, or vote to create the government we think would be more stable.

robdonn

Looks like the 3 SD founders are going to get their seats, but still very unclear for the rest of their candidates.

Cabaal

robdonn wrote: »

She's not doing too badly, at 10% with half the boxes opened. SD candidate Lynch is well behind at 6%. Looks like a bad constituency to be an independent in.

https://twitter.com/TJ_Politics/status/703531014619062272

1% spoiled votes, unreal!
People should be ashamed

sheep?

I get your point, but I don't think people should feel ashamed for purposefully spoiling if they genuinely feel there is no representation on their behalf. That's a strong word. At least they got up off their arses and cast a vote. I mean....25% turnout is the biggest offending percentage on that sheet to me.

(btw I didn't spoil )

Pherekydes

sheep? wrote: »

I mean....25% turnout is the biggest offending percentage on that sheet to me.

That's only the tallies from less than half of the boxes.

sheep?

Thought it was suspiciously low.....

EGG ALL OVER MY FACE.

robdonn

https://twitter.com/TJ_Politics/status/703590479590531072

Cabaal

robdonn wrote: »

https://twitter.com/TJ_Politics/status/703590479590531072

Thats the best news I've heard all day

An utterly useless party and the people are seeing it as such

robdonn

Cabaal wrote: »

Thats the best news I've heard all day

An utterly useless party and the people are seeing it as such

As much as I agree with you, I have to disagree with this kind of response from people. She's still a human being.

https://twitter.com/TJ_Politics/status/703609456131776512