Recommend me a tyre!

myshirt

Lads, I will have to replace tyres on an E60 in the next while and looking for a recommendation on what you think.

Currently have Goodyear Eagle F1s which I found good. All the same size front and rear at the moment.

Requirements are no different than anyone else:
- Reliable tyres - don't want anyone killed!
- Tyres for Irish weather!! (though not set up for a Summer tyres and Winter tyres regime)
- Quiet tyres at high speed
- Tyres that'll do c. 30k miles min

My driving is 60% motorway, 40% non-motorway.

biko

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Uniroyal/

JohnBoy26

myshirt wrote: »

Lads, I will have to replace tyres on an E60 in the next while and looking for a recommendation on what you think.

Currently have Goodyear Eagle F1s which I found good. All the same size front and rear at the moment.

Requirements are no different than anyone else:
- Reliable tyres - don't want anyone killed!
- Tyres for Irish weather!! (though not set up for a Summer tyres and Winter tyres regime)
- Quiet tyres at high speed
- Tyres that'll do c. 30k miles min

My driving is 60% motorway, 40% non-motorway.

If you are happy with the Goodyear why not go for them again

myshirt

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

If you are happy with the Goodyear why not go for them again

If nothing else emerges, I will do! Just wondering what you guys recommend or know as a good set-up on that car.

XsApollo

myshirt wrote: »

If nothing else emerges, I will do! Just wondering what you guys recommend or know as a good set-up on that car.

Are they asymmetric Ones you are running?
The best tyre on the road now are probably Eagle F1 asymmetric 2's.

I have the uniroyals rainsport 3's quoted above on my A6 and I find the feeling with them strange, great grip out of them but the sidewalls are way too soft and the car feels like a boat.

Will be putting goodyears when replacing the uniroyals.

deandean

I had a set of Champiro Gt Radials on my E60 for 3 years (going back a few years now, not ride flats). They were absolutely excellent. Available at a good price from one of the online retailers. You could pay a whole lot more and not get a better tyre.

Silvera

XsApollo wrote: »

Are they asymmetric Ones you are running?
The best tyre on the road now are probably Eagle F1 asymmetric 2's.

I have the uniroyals rainsport 3's quoted above on my A6 and I find the feeling with them strange, great grip out of them but the sidewalls are way too soft and the car feels like a boat.

Will be putting goodyears when replacing the uniroyals.

I had the same experience with uniroyals. Went for BFGoodrich this time and my cars handling is transformed!

Ded_Zebra

deandean wrote: »

I had a set of Champiro Gt Radials on my E60 for 3 years (going back a few years now, not ride flats). They were absolutely excellent. Available at a good price from one of the online retailers. You could pay a whole lot more and not get a better tyre.

That's funny because I've only ever come across one set of Champiro tyres, they were on a Mazda MX-5. They were unbelievably spectacularly sh!t. Wheel spin in 3rd in the wet with that little 1.6:eek::eek::eek: Shocking stuff. I would recommend avoiding them at all costs.

Bridgestone Turanza T001 are a fantastic tyre all round and lasted huge milage on the front of our CLK200. Actually have a set on the front of my other CLK320 now too.

Dale Parish

Michelin Primacy 3
Edit: Might not get 30k miles on it though.

bazz26

Tyre size? Run flat or non run flat?

Charles Babbage

Ded_Zebra wrote: »

That's funny because I've only ever come across one set of Champiro tyres, they were on a Mazda MX-5. They were unbelievably spectacularly sh!t. Wheel spin in 3rd in the wet with that little 1.6:eek::eek::eek: Shocking stuff. I would recommend avoiding them at all costs.

Bridgestone Turanza T001 are a fantastic tyre all round and lasted huge milage on the front of our CLK200. Actually have a set on the front of my other CLK320 now too.

I'd also suggest the T001, as something of an all season with good wet grip they are suitable for Ireland IMHO.

boardsuser1

Dale Parish wrote: »

Michelin Primacy 3
Edit: Might not get 30k miles on it though.

Had these tyres on a mazda 6. The worst tyres i ever had for wear. Got a set of Pirelli P7's. The best i ever bought.

power pants

cant beat zeetex tyres at 45e each imo

absolutely brilliant

bazz26

power pants wrote: »

cant beat zeetex tyres at 45e each imo

absolutely brilliant

You were robbed at that price. I got them for 35e and they have transformed the handling on my wheelbarrow especially on roundabouts. Best tyre ever.

power pants

why on earth would you have a wheel barrow on a roundabout?

Oh I see, you were trying to be funny. hahahahahaha yeah thats good one!!

OldMrBrennan83

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bazz26

power pants wrote: »

why on earth would you have a wheel barrow on a roundabout?

Oh I see, you were trying to be funny. hahahahahaha yeah thats good one!!

Awh thanks.

visual

power pants wrote: »

cant beat zeetex tyres at 45e each imo

absolutely brilliant

Why do you jump on nearly every tyre thread to push plastic ditch finders. Are you on commission ?

power pants

visual wrote: »

Why do you jump on nearly every tyre thread to push plastic ditch finders. Are you on commission ?

How are they "ditchfinders" any actual experience of entering a ditch due to zeetex tyres or any other lower priced tyres for that matter?

I speak from personal experience when I endorse these tyres.

I imagine you don't, but you prefer to follow the majority on here with their ill-founded and mythical accusations regarding certain brands

In conclusion. No I am not on any commission unfortunately.

visual

power pants wrote: »

How are they "ditchfinders" any actual experience of entering a ditch due to zeetex tyres or any other lower priced tyres for that matter?

I speak from personal experience when I endorse these tyres.

I imagine you don't, but you prefer to follow the majority on here with their ill-founded and mythical accusations regarding certain brands

In conclusion. No I am not on any commission unfortunately.

Actually I do have experience of cheap tyres and their lack of grip in wet is criminal especially if it is a smooth road. My current car came with ditch finders, tyre fitter ask why change the tyres there is plenty of thread on those triangle tyres. Yes there was but zero grip in wet. Wheel spin taking off and traction light flashing. ABS flashing when stopping.
Changed to branded tyre that uses rubber as it's major component instead of cheaper plastics and silicone used in budget tyres made a huge difference. No more lighting up the dash with traction and abs warnings.

I once fitted motorway (budget tyres ) recommended by tyre fitter all round on a van in the morning. It rained that day and the van was the same sliding all over the place by afternoon I was back at tyre centre getting my old tyres refitted.

Your under some impression it's brand snobbery
But it's about grip not budget black things that are round and cheaper is better

If a car has to activate abs traction control in normal driving something is amiss and if there isn't black ice under your wheels and the road is just wet then its very identify tyres are the issue

When I had the triangle tyres on they seemed OK in dry but when I had to brake on motorway in wet car slid nearly causing me to rear end car in front who didn't skid to a stop. This wasn't an isolated incident it happened a enough times to realise I didn't have proper traction.

You might say drive slower drive with bigger gaps between cars but when you need to stop in wet due to some emergency or unexpected reason good tyres can make the difference between plowing into rear of another car or actually being able to go around a corner.

Yet repeatly you push your choice in tyres without anything more than your opinion and there cheaper.

What's worse is that every single time you have to be challenged.

My reason for challenging you is I don't want some less knowledgeable person being caught out by budget tyres and end up in accident following very bad advice.

What's just as bad is tyre fitters pushing these budget tyres claiming all taxis use them while not disclosing that they stock budget tyres because profit margin is bigger than branded name tyres.

myshirt

After all these recommendations, I think I'll have to go with... a set of Landsails

fancy pigeon

myshirt wrote: »

After all these recommendations, I think I'll have to go with... a set of Landsails

You fool, a false economy! A good set of triangles or remoulds is the way forward

Rowley Birkin QC

Just put 4 x Eagle F1's on my E46. Great tyre. Got them from Openeo and saved >€150.

biko

Here's an old tyre test you have a look at
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2012-Autobild-50-Tyre-Braking-Test.htm
Uniroyal came in 7th, Zeetex came in 44th

Opps, that's for 2012
This is from 2014
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2014-Auto-Bild-50-Summer-Tyre-Shootout.htm

coolisin

power pants wrote: »

cant beat zeetex tyres at 45e each imo

absolutely brilliant

Sweet jeebus no.
Awful tyres.
And from personal experience they where lethal in the wet.
No grip when going around roundabouts.
Or entering turns and no braking grip either.

I'm sorry but no these could not handle rwd.

I had them on a mazda 3 and they where awful.
I do not drive like a loon either.

biko

http://www.tyretrade.ie/index.php/zeetex-joins-league-of-top-tyre-manufacturers/10955
http://www.mytyres.co.uk/cgi-bin/rtest.pl?rt_rubrik=pkw_sommerreifen&rt_profil=111106481&cart_id=6884293.110.26670&language=EN&dsco=110
ZT1000 did good.

I suppose it's down to what model of tyres rather than the entire brand.

Lord Nikon

bazz26 wrote: »

You were robbed at that price. I got them for 35e and they have transformed the handling on my wheelbarrow especially on roundabouts. Best tyre ever.

New tyres? What size?

Rowley Birkin QC

OSI wrote: »

Did you get the Asymmetric 3s? Some places are still selling the 2s at a higher price for some reason

Didn't know so went back and checked...

Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 245/40 R17 95 Y XL, FP
Price per unit (including VAT): 121 € Quantity: 2 :
Total price (VAT Incl) 242 €


Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 225/45 R17 91 Y FP
Price per unit (including VAT): 92 € Quantity: 2 :
Total price (VAT Incl) 184 €

Lord Nikon

I was always fond of Federals for my E39. Great grip, but didnt last too long. Then on my A4, I had Pirelli P-Zeros, but thought the grip wasnt great, and they lasted longer. Now for my Superb, probably go with Conti Sports, as tried and tested and just work.

ianobrien

Budget tyres are bloody dangerous. I was driving a hired 1.6 diesel Leon on a set of ditchfinders. I have my own Leon on Continental ContiSportContacts for a direct comparison. On dry roads, the ditchfinders were not too bad, reasonable grip but they took a lot of hard work to get heat into them. When it rained, boy were they bad. Moderate braking had the ABS kicking in, mini-roundabouts in second gear and moderate throttle had the traction control kicking in. Grip was shocking in the damp, loads of understeer, etc. I would have to hate to have to do an emergency stop (eg a child running out on the road after a ball) as I knew I couldn't stop in time. My own Leon on Conti's would stick to the road. I was bloody glad to get rid of it and get my own car back (same car, different trim level).

OP, I wouldn't get Dunlop Sport Maxx. That's what I replaced the Conti's with and they are not as good as the Conti's. They lack feeling, with initial turn in not as crisp. Wet performance is not as good and take longer to get heat into them in the wet. Once hot they do work well. On the plus side for the Dunlop's they are much quieter though.

power pants

ianobrien wrote: »

Budget tyres are bloody dangerous. I was driving a hired 1.6 diesel Leon on a set of ditchfinders. I have my own Leon on Continental ContiSportContacts for a direct comparison. On dry roads, the ditchfinders were not too bad, reasonable grip but they took a lot of hard work to get heat into them. When it rained, boy were they bad. Moderate braking had the ABS kicking in, mini-roundabouts in second gear and moderate throttle had the traction control kicking in. Grip was shocking in the damp, loads of understeer, etc. I would have to hate to have to do an emergency stop (eg a child running out on the road after a ball) as I knew I couldn't stop in time. My own Leon on Conti's would stick to the road. I was bloody glad to get rid of it and get my own car back (same car, different trim level).

OP, I wouldn't get Dunlop Sport Maxx. That's what I replaced the Conti's with and they are not as good as the Conti's. They lack feeling, with initial turn in not as crisp. Wet performance is not as good and take longer to get heat into them in the wet. Once hot they do work well. On the plus side for the Dunlop's they are much quieter though.

Getstedious reading the same drawn out cliched ridden answers to budget tyres

If this was fact, then a child or whatever must die every single day on the road as someone couldnt break in time on their budget tyres


Fact, this does not happen


tyre snobbery pure and simple imo

pred racer

biko wrote: »

Here's an old tyre test you have a look at
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2012-Autobild-50-Tyre-Braking-Test.htm
Uniroyal came in 7th, Zeetex came in 44th

Opps, that's for 2012
This is from 2014
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2014-Auto-Bild-50-Summer-Tyre-Shootout.htm

It must depend on the car!
I have the Pirelli p7s and the Goodyear efficient grip on my car at the moment.
Both sets have been on the front, and the goodyears beat the pirellis in every way, quite convincingly.

visual

power pants wrote: »

Getstedious reading the same drawn out cliched ridden answers to budget tyres

If this was fact, then a child or whatever must die every single day on the road as someone couldnt break in time on their budget tyres


Fact, this does not happen


tyre snobbery pure and simple imo

cars crash every single day on M50 when the road is wet.
First car stops on good tyres cars behind slide into the back of them.

it doesn't take much to figure out in dry most tyres have similar grip but once wet budget tyres are taking extra 4 car lengths longer to stop is recipe for disaster with only one out come.

visual

biko wrote: »

http://www.tyretrade.ie/index.php/zeetex-joins-league-of-top-tyre-manufacturers/10955
http://www.mytyres.co.uk/cgi-bin/rtest.pl?rt_rubrik=pkw_sommerreifen&rt_profil=111106481&cart_id=6884293.110.26670&language=EN&dsco=110
ZT1000 did good.

I suppose it's down to what model of tyres rather than the entire brand.

I'm not convinced by test results that rely on customer feed back for a number of reasons.

Most would have little experience or opportunity to compare tyres so the comparison is from worn out tyres to new tyres. So likely to give their new tyre choice a higher mark than it may deserve, while it might be a fair comparison between old worn out and new tyres, but we aren't interested in the difference between old and new. We are looking for is reviews between new tyres and we aren't getting that.

People are less critical of budget cheaper tyres because their expectations are lower. While more expensive tyres often carry very high expectations and buyers are more critical. This alone distorts results

Most will write a review within a few weeks after buying a tyre and will rate with stars all the boxes for dry rain snow without actually having experienced all conditions plus any criticism is usually put down to tyres have to bed in.

For these reasons it is very hard to make comparisons between brands on customer reviews.

The tyre ratings by manufacture was to be fair comparison that was standard throughout the industry but even a lay person would realise something is a miss and it appears that lesser brands not as protective of reputation have higher ratings than deserved and experience in real world/

then finally there is independent tests that only cover a very limited number of tyres usually only in the size for their test car. these seem to be the most realistic of tests.

166man

Ah lads the chap does this on every tyre thread. I'm probably not one to talk but it's best to ignore it if possible.

Like something something irritating eventually it will get a life and go away.

Budget tyres are dangerous. End of.

CJhaughey

This poster would I bet be on Budget tyres and regretting that they weren't on good tyres.
Budget tyres are probably OK in countries where the temperatures are higher and roads are dry, here traction is at a premium and budget tyres often end up costing more in the long run.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057563179

power pants

LIGHTNING wrote: »

Your doing a dangerous job for advising people to buy cheap crappy tyres. Your above statement makes no sense either. I actually would laugh if you fired your car off the road on crap tyres.

believe me nothing would make me laugh harder for you to do the same too

fryup

Firestone a good brand?

power pants

166man wrote: »

Ah lads the chap does this on every tyre thread. I'm probably not one to talk but it's best to ignore it if possible.

Like something something irritating eventually it will get a life and go away.

Budget tyres are dangerous. End of.

That's a tad harsh, I have a differing opinion to the rest of the posters on here, that's all.

Talking about "getting a life" that time you had a sissy fit when not invited to a boards meet was very funny.

Alun

It's not rocket science, you just need to look at the wet braking distance figures in the Autobild tests linked to above. Most of the premium brands achieve figures of around 44m, the ditchfinder brands at the bottom of the list go from around 60m to the absolute worst at 71.7m :eek: That 16m or more extra braking distance can make all the difference between stopping in time and crashing into the car in front.

And that's only the ones tested ... I'm sure there are worse ones out there in "sure all the taxi drivers use them" dealers all over Ireland.

biko

Just because a company is Chinese doesn't have to mean their tyres are plastic ditchfinders.
And budget tyres can be perfectly fine.
Not everyone have the same requirements.

OP, you already got the best advice - if you like Goodyears, stick with them.

From here on, let's start using sources, facts and figures and less of the emotive stuff...

For instance, I recommend Uniroyal RainExpert. Brilliant tyres and fairly good price.
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Uniroyal/RainExpert.htm
They can be a bit wobbly in corners because they have fairly soft sidewalls, but just fill them a little higher and they're great

166man

power pants wrote: »

That's a tad harsh, I have a differing opinion to the rest of the posters on here, that's all.

Talking about "getting a life" that time you had a sissy fit when not invited to a boards meet was very funny.

Yeah, your opinion is perfectly valid and holds considerable weight on this site alright.


Do carry on :):):):):):):):):)

shietpilot

I'm actually surprised to see the Hankook Venus Prime 2 tyres in the second spot on the Autobild tests.

We had them on both family cars and the grip was impressing for the price. I have been thinking about trying a more premium brand but looks like I'll have to stay with Hankooks.

MarkR

I got the hankook ventus prime 2's recently also, happy with them.

VeVeX

biko wrote: »

From here on, let's start using sources, facts and figures and less of the emotive stuff...

For instance, I recommend Uniroyal RainExpert. Brilliant tyres and fairly good price.
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Uniroyal/RainExpert.htm
They can be a bit wobbly in corners because they have fairly soft sidewalls, but just fill them a little higher and they're great

Factually, Uniroyal Rain Expert's are not made in a size that would suit the OP's E60.