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Voting Liberally.

  • 20-02-2016 08:52PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,763 ✭✭✭✭


    Apparently there's half a million too many on the register . Anybody admit to voting more than once?Or is it a bit of a myth?
    No idea what the penalty is or if anybody has ever been caught.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 108 ✭✭saltsun


    Vote early, vote often.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Do people use their dead relatives votes?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    Never seen or heard it being done here, Dublin central.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    kneemos wrote: »
    Apparently there's half a million too many on the register . Anybody admit to voting more than once?Or is it a bit of a myth?
    No idea what the penalty is or if anybody has ever been caught.

    Where you get that figure from ? N Korea :-)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    Was it Charles Haugheys buddy that was caught voting twice?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,632 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    I never got the big thing about having to go registering to vote. I was automatically put on the register and when my grandmother died she was taken off it before the next referendum taking place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,763 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    I never got the big thing about having to go registering to vote. I was automatically put on the register and when my grandmother died she was taken off it before the next referendum taking place.



    Someone must have registered you.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,363 ✭✭✭KingBrian2


    There was fix up with the electronic voting machines. They were designed to make it easy to cheat apparently they could alter your vote. Glad they stuck to the common pencil and paper.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Know of a certain politician in Kerry who asked a friend of mine to impersonate another voter, she refused but there was a bit of pressure applied. Kerry has had a few accusations about electoral fraud and a file was supposed to be sent to the DPP after the last election but unsurprisingly it seems to have gathered dust.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I never got the big thing about having to go registering to vote. I was automatically put on the register and when my grandmother died she was taken off it before the next referendum taking place.

    You evidently have a good registrar of electors in the area, keeping tabs in everything, the postmen used to be great sources for them. As long as s/he made sure you resided there before adding you, and were not away working.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,763 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    You evidently have a good registrar of electors in the area, keeping tabs in everything, the postmen used to be great sources for them. As long as s/he made sure you resided there before adding you, and were not away working.



    They need to embrace technology. Everyone has a pps number,shouldn't be a massive difficulty to keep account of ages and deaths and amend the register automatically.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,866 ✭✭✭Fat Christy


    I made a mistake the first time!


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    kneemos wrote: »
    They need to embrace technology. Everyone has a pps number,shouldn't be a massive difficulty to keep account of ages and deaths and amend the register automatically.

    Gives no info on whereabouts, which is the critical thing...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 600 ✭✭✭Ice Maiden


    Why not let dead pets vote?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    There are many people on the register and long gone from their addresses. 3 additional voting cards arrived here this week for kids long married and living elsewhere - where they are alsonregistered to vote. There has to be hundreds of thousands incorrectly listed on the register. We notified them of the changes here several times and it's still wrong.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 94,516 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Was it Charles Haugheys buddy that was caught voting twice?
    http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/personation-once-again-26383114.html
    February 18, 1982 when Charles Haughey's election agent, Pat O'Connor, was sensationally charged with attempting to vote at two polling stations in the tight Dublin North constituency. By lunchtime on polling day, the damaging news was splashed across the front of the Evening Herald. Mysterious buyers mobilised, snapping up every copy in bulk from Dublin North shops.

    Just as RTE's six o'clock news went on air, the constituency suffered a widespread power blackout. Locals said that someone had thrown a bicycle onto an ESB transformer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,647 ✭✭✭lazybones32


    We get sent polling cards for people who do not exist: one of the names that is sent to us is the same as a former pet. deceased family members still get sent their card, as do people who no longer reside here but have registered in their new location.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,681 ✭✭✭Fleawuss


    kneemos wrote: »
    They need to embrace technology. Everyone has a pps number,shouldn't be a massive difficulty to keep account of ages and deaths and amend the register automatically.

    HSE still write to my dead mother. Bit of a fixation I think.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,981 ✭✭✭KomradeBishop


    Good thread - got me skeptical and wondering about ways that the voting system can be cheated. Noticed this while reading up on related things - cross-posted from another thread:
    Something important to note about the coming elections: Irish citizens abroad - i.e. our huge number of emigrants - do not have a vote.

    We have been waiting for a promised Electoral Commission (which we're supposed to wait on, for allowing overseas votes) from two separate governments now - and fixing this was a promise Fine Gael made, but what is taking so long?

    Almost a decade we have been waiting for this, and it seems like it has been conveniently delayed again and again, and this time until after the general election, almost as if the purpose were so that Fine Gael would not have to deal with the protest votes from emigrants - who obviously would have most reason to vote against Fine Gael (for example...).

    To me, this seems almost perfectly deferred/orchestrated, in order to disenfranchise emigrants, and to erode the voting power of groups who would oppose government.


    Remember, when it comes to Irish emigrants:
    Ireland has the highest percentage of people living abroad out of all OECD countries. One out of every six Irish-born people currently resides in another country, illustrating the devastating and enduring impact the global financial crisis has had on the country.
    https://d28wbuch0jlv7v.cloudfront.net/images/infografik/normal/chartoftheday_4237_the_countries_with_the_most_people_living_overseas_n.jpg
    https://www.statista.com/chart/4237/the-countries-with-the-most-people-living-overseas/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,981 ✭✭✭KomradeBishop


    We get sent polling cards for people who do not exist: one of the names that is sent to us is the same as a former pet. deceased family members still get sent their card, as do people who no longer reside here but have registered in their new location.
    Seriously? That's utterly crazy if true, so a bit skeptical - if true, that could probably get in the newspapers if proof can be shown.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭uch


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    There was fix up with the electronic voting machines. They were designed to make it easy to cheat apparently they could alter your vote. Glad they stuck to the common pencil and paper.

    Bull****

    21/25



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭uch


    The only thing they don't know is about deceased people, I had to sort out a database for a well known Gay senator and all I was asked was to try remove the dead people to avoid embarrassment

    21/25



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,363 ✭✭✭KingBrian2


    uch wrote: »
    Bull****

    Come off it electronic voting can't beat the traditional ballot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    Good thread - got me skeptical and wondering about ways that the voting system can be cheated. Noticed this while reading up on related things - cross-posted from another thread:
    Something important to note about the coming elections: Irish citizens abroad - i.e. our huge number of emigrants - do not have a vote.

    We have been waiting for a promised Electoral Commission (which we're supposed to wait on, for allowing overseas votes) from two separate governments now - and fixing this was a promise Fine Gael made, but what is taking so long?

    Almost a decade we have been waiting for this, and it seems like it has been conveniently delayed again and again, and this time until after the general election, almost as if the purpose were so that Fine Gael would not have to deal with the protest votes from emigrants - who obviously would have most reason to vote against Fine Gael (for example...).

    To me, this seems almost perfectly deferred/orchestrated, in order to disenfranchise emigrants, and to erode the voting power of groups who would oppose government.


    Remember, when it comes to Irish emigrants:
    Ireland has the highest percentage of people living abroad out of all OECD countries. One out of every six Irish-born people currently resides in another country, illustrating the devastating and enduring impact the global financial crisis has had on the country.
    https://d28wbuch0jlv7v.cloudfront.net/images/infografik/normal/chartoftheday_4237_the_countries_with_the_most_people_living_overseas_n.jpg
    https://www.statista.com/chart/4237/the-countries-with-the-most-people-living-overseas/


    Against this proposal.

    If they have left the country and are working and paying taxes abroad, they should not have the right to vote in a general election. Their interests are represented in the countries they have settled in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,954 ✭✭✭CrabRevolution


    I totally disagree with giving emigrants the vote. They're not here, they're not the ones being governed or having to live with the results of the election.

    The purpose of the election is to elect a government to govern you. If you're not here, you aren't being governed, so shouldn't have a say in who gets to govern the rest of us in Ireland.

    If anything, the huge number of them abroad is a reason not to bring in foreign voting. A system where 1 in 6 voters can elect anyone they want knowing they never have to deal with the consequences is ridiculous. One in six is also probably being conservative, since the right would probably involve citizenship, so many thousands more abroad with Irish citizenship could potentially vote, hugely skewing an election.

    At most I'd allow something like the french system, where foreign voters elect a few TDs representing vast overseas constituencies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,363 ✭✭✭KingBrian2


    I made a mistake the first time!

    No redoes.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,647 ✭✭✭lazybones32


    Seriously? That's utterly crazy if true, so a bit skeptical - if true, that could probably get in the newspapers if proof can be shown.
    Oh, it's true. The card comes with the first name of our dog (dog had human name, not a 'Fido', etc) and our surname.
    We could not prove that the now-dead-dog had the name he had, since his license doesn't require a name, only breed. But the polling card arrived with the others: 7 votes for 6 people; 2 of those people live in a different Const. and 1 is deceased


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