Hyundai Ioniq 28kWh

ELM327

average 73km/h on a motorway/DC isnt realistic though so it shows that we are not quite there yet.

Depend , I usually take the older national routes when I'm not commuting, having said that when I'm on days I usually avoid the M7/N7 as the road is not fit for purpose. Anyway, I do enjoy taking the older routes when I'm not in a rush. I know a lot of people have the mindset that they have to get there asap or trying to beat the estimated GPS time lol.

I have to say though I don't really want another small car like the Leaf or Ioniq , I'm trying to get my partner to get a 7 seater which would be very convenient for us to take Granny off with us some places or her parents when they come over without having to take 2 cars and I could live with the small hatch but it's a right pain in the ass having a hatch and small estate.

I would imagine those who buy the Zoe could be happy enough getting decent range. I bet it will sell well on the continent as the 22 Kwh was highly successful there.

ELM327

I normally drive 120 (real world 120, so 128 in the leaf) on the motorway.
This is what I do normally in an ICE or when I'm not range limited in my leaf. I think thats generally people's mentality.

When there is an EV that can comfortably do dublin to cork non stop at 120 then there will be mass adoption.

BoatMad

ELM327 wrote: »

I normally drive 120 (real world 120, so 128 in the leaf) on the motorway.
This is what I do normally in an ICE or when I'm not range limited in my leaf. I think thats generally people's mentality.

When there is an EV that can comfortably do dublin to cork non stop at 120 then there will be mass adoption.

Most people don't drive at the motorway limit at all.

ELM327

BoatMad wrote: »

Most people don't drive at the motorway limit at all.

My experience since getting my leaf
Range Mode:
Driving at 100km/h indicated on the motorway to save range, everyone flies by, I make 0 overtakes (except trucks)

Normal Mode:
Driving at 110-120km/h indicated on the motorway , I make some overtakes but generally 75% of cars pass me, and I pass the other 25%

Non restricted Mode :
Driving at >120 km/h indicated. When I am travelling less than 70-80 km with a full charge I can drive as I please, and even above 140km/h I still find I am overtaken as much as I overtake


Conclusion: it's not empirical, but based on my opinion more people drive at or above the limit, than below.

BoatMad

ELM327 wrote: »

My experience since getting my leaf
Range Mode:
Driving at 100km/h indicated on the motorway to save range, everyone flies by, I make 0 overtakes (except trucks)

Normal Mode:
Driving at 110-120km/h indicated on the motorway , I make some overtakes but generally 75% of cars pass me, and I pass the other 25%

Non restricted Mode :
Driving at >120 km/h indicated. When I am travelling less than 70-80 km with a full charge I can drive as I please, and even above 140km/h I still find I am overtaken as much as I overtake


Conclusion: it's not empirical, but based on my opinion more people drive at or above the limit, than below.

I would personally say that there is a considerable group of people at around 110 km/h

unkel

BoatMad wrote:

Range in a Zoe does not fall 25% in winter

Oh yes it does. And the rest. Renault France are very honest about it. They state the NEDC range of 400km on their website. And that the real life range is 300km in good weather and 200km in winter. So 33% less. Nyland didn't even get 200km, but I guess winter in Norway is colder than winter in France

highdef

BoatMad wrote: »

Most people don't drive at the motorway limit at all.

I drive at motorway limit, every limit actually. I don't see any reason for why I can drive faster than that limit. I'll hand in my licence if I decide I think it's ok for me to drive faster than the limits. Obeying the rules of the road is a prerequisite for holding a driver's licence, in my eyes.

I think I'm a rare beast!

Most days I plough down the motorway at 120-130 Kph, conditions permitting, in the Leaf once I don't need to worry about range for commuting. I'd imagine I'm pretty hard on the battery to be honest and probably more than a substantial number of Leaf drivers. You definitely won't see me being over taken my other Leaf drivers.

I've seen Gen I Leaf drivers at as low as 60 Kph on the M7 ! shocking !

JohnnyJohnJohns

Deposit paid- should have it in early July!

You're mad, with 2 months to go to the announcement of Leaf II, but anyway, best of luck !

BorneTobyWilde

How has range improved in this Hotty Weather. How is Con Air? Does it work well.

unkel

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I've seen Gen I Leaf drivers at as low as 60 Kph on the M7 ! shocking !

They should be prosecuted for dangerous driving.

punisher5112

unkel wrote: »

They should be prosecuted for dangerous driving.

Worst part is one can travel at 50km/h

My 50cc scooter went nearly double that and wasn't allowed on the motorway...

thierry14

[Deleted User] wrote: »

You're mad, with 2 months to go to the announcement of Leaf II, but anyway, best of luck !

I would be more concerned about upgraded Ioniq announcement

Leaf 2 is set to be a big disappointment

Leaf is finished

Competition have caught up

Like the micra it will be way behind its rivals.

Won't be able to give a 24kwh Leaf away in 2019

unkel

unkel wrote: »

They should be prosecuted for dangerous driving.

So should all the other slow drivers on the motorways it's ridiculous.

isnottheword

thierry14 wrote: »

Won't be able to give a 24kwh Leaf away in 2019

As in used? I'm not concerned. Depreciation sure - but there is a market that's perfect for older Leafs.

ELM327

thierry14 wrote: »

Won't be able to give a 24kwh Leaf away in 2019

Like a gen1 now you mean?
2011-2017, versus 2017-2019 from your example.
I don't see any chance that your point is true.
However it wouldn't make much difference to me anyway even if it did, as I am saving money on an end value neutral basis. IE I did the sums assuming a zero value remaining in the car at the end and it still saves money.

(as an aside, I'm aware i'm in a small subset of people where a 70km range EV is still perfectly usable as I do a long commute of approx 60km with work charging.)

thelikelylad

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

How has range improved in this Hotty Weather. How is Con Air? Does it work well.

The air con is good, it's pretty quick to get up/down to temp.

Higher temps definitely improve range but I'm guessing any gain is probably offset by using air con. Went for a Sunday drive yesterday and did around 95km with air con on and 5 adults in the car all on 33% juice. Averaged 11.5kWh/100km over the whole trip I think.

Fiery mutant

Anyone seen the attached come up. Happened while I was driving back from dropping the kids to school this morning.

Dont be at yourself

Was charging via the granny cable yesterday evening, and couldn't unlock the charger from the port. In the end, had to pull the emergency release in the boot. Anybody come across this before?

thelikelylad

Fiery mutant wrote: »

Anyone seen the attached come up. Happened while I was driving back from dropping the kids to school this morning.

Never seen it. Did you manage to get the car started again or were you stranded?

Dont be at yourself wrote: »

Was charging via the granny cable yesterday evening, and couldn't unlock the charger from the port. In the end, had to pull the emergency release in the boot. Anybody come across this before?

Yep. Unplug the car end first and it should release fine. In my experience if you unplug the 3-pin plug side out first it can cause these issues.

I've had the cable stick on me at least twice with the home charge point too. Still not sure why it happened. It also happened me once at a CCS point but not sure if that was caused by the charger itself.

Fiery mutant

That's the weird thing, I was driving at the time. Car started as normal, that notice only came up when the car was in motion.

isnottheword

Fiery mutant wrote: »

Anyone seen the attached come up. Happened while I was driving back from dropping the kids to school this morning.

Maybe message this guy and see if he got to the bottom of it...

Soarer

ELM327 wrote: »

(as an aside, I'm aware i'm in a small subset of people where a 70km range EV is still perfectly usable as I do a long commute of approx 60km with work charging.)

Thing is, I reckon you pretty much in the majority with a <60km commute.

Most people don't do half the distances they think.

ELM327

Soarer wrote: »

Thing is, I reckon you pretty much in the majority with a <60km commute.

Most people don't do half the distances they think.

Should have specified mine is ~60km each way.

Fermi

UPDATE : Deposit paid, finance agreed, I will have my Ioniq in black on the 5th of July. Car is already in the country but the dealer will wait with registration so it can be 172 car. It will be the first Electric Ioniq to be registered in Mayo. Now I feel like Early Adopter...

thelikelylad

Fermi wrote: »

UPDATE : Deposit paid, finance agreed, I will have my Ioniq in black on the 5th of July. Car is already in the country but the dealer will wait with registration so it can be 172 car. It will be the first Electric Ioniq to be registered in Mayo. Now I feel like Early Adopter...

Nice! Well wear.

There's a post on the Irish EV Owners FB group about a Hyundai dealer in Mayo.

Hyundai dealer in Mayo,
We don't sell electric cars because we were promised an over 200km range but in traffic you wouldn't get 140km, there's no charge points for them this side of the Shannon and the depreciation is too high.
When did salesmen stop doing sales.

I'm guessing you may not have shopped local. You'll have to call in and show them your new motor

Fermi

thelikelylad wrote: »

Nice! Well wear.

There's a post on the Irish EV Owners FB group about a Hyundai dealer in Mayo.



I'm guessing you may not have shopped local. You'll have to call in and show them your new motor

Yes, I know exactly the dealer they are talking about. Both dealers in Mayo and Sligo do not sell electric versions. Me as a customer having better and more relevant information (e.g. about the ESB charging point, they had no idea). I cannot believe such attitude to business. And also giving me stupid excuses like the car is not available when dealer 100km away can get it for me....

At the end of the day, my business did not stay local I have to say..

Dont be at yourself

Fermi wrote: »

UPDATE : Deposit paid, finance agreed, I will have my Ioniq in black on the 5th of July. Car is already in the country but the dealer will wait with registration so it can be 172 car. It will be the first Electric Ioniq to be registered in Mayo. Now I feel like Early Adopter...

Congrats, well wear!