Mutant HD2400 Quad Tuner Combo Box - Sky Replacement Thread

54and56

Hi all,

I've been mooching around the various "Sky Box Replacement" threads for a few months researching what combo box to get to replace my sky subscription.

My key criteria were:-

• Combination of Free To Air UK channels + the Irish Saorview channels on one 7 day EPG
• Easy to use remote and menu structure
• Ability to watch one channel whilst recording another.
• Ability to record an entire series a la "series link".
• Reliable hardware and stable software.
• Well supported with user forums etc

Having done my homework I just pulled the trigger on this Mutant HD 2400 Quad Tuner - http://www.world-of-satellite.co.uk/Mutant-HD2400-HD-Quad-Tuner-Digital-Receiver-2x-DVB-S-S2 configured with 2 x DVB-S/S2 (giving the ability to watch one satellite channel whilst recording another) and 2 x DVB-C/T/T2 (giving the ability to watch one Saorview channel whilst recording another) + a 1TB internal Hard Disk Drive + the OpenVix firmware + the WiFi N Dongle as the box will need internet access to get the most out of it.

Here is the configuration which cost £396.85 including a Kingstown USB drive for flashing updates etc to the box and delivery to Dublin.



I'm a complete newbie to Linux and satellite boxes other than the plug and play Sky boxes I currently have although I'm handy enough with Android flashing ROMs etc and have a couple of media boxes I use for KODI, Netflix, YouTube, Various online content streaming sources etc.

I'm putting up this thread with two objectives in mind:-

1. It will provide context when (not if!!) I need help setting up and maintaining the box.
2. It might become a source of support for other Mutant HD2400 users.
3. If the box is easy to set up and use and does what it says on the tin it might encourage others to take the plunge with this or similar Sky Replacement Boxes.

So, I'm hoping the box will arrive mid next week and that shortly after I'll have it up and running. I can dream

Gerry Wicklow

Nice one;) Genuine hands-on feedback is always welcome especially since there are now such a wide variety of boxes out there.

54and56

Thanks Gerry, I'll use this thread to summarise how I get on and to beg for help as needed!!

Looking forward to the adventure.

My first question (an easy opener for one point) is what's the most practical Saorview Ariel to get? I have the Sat dish mounted and 2 X cables running to the existing Sky box which will hopefully allow me to just connect up the existing sat feeds to the Mutant but I don't have any Saorview feed. My house is 250 ft above sea level and the TV is relatively close to a window so if possible I'd prefer to have a discreet indoor Saorview ariel sitting just behind the TV with two outputs to facilitate the 2 x DVB-C/T/T2 tuners. Is that possible? Even if it may or may not work for the sake of €20 I'd like to give it a go before getting someone in to fit an external ariel and run more cables etc.

Any recommendations as to what ariel and cables I should get and from where? A quick search shows Harvey Norman carry a few - http://www.harveynorman.ie/tvs-headphones/set-top-boxes-and-aerials/aerials

yabadabado

They are supposed to be a very good box ,I have a similar set up with a Duo 2.I have 2 x DVB-S/S2 and 1 x DVB-C.

One bit of advice I wouldn't use wifi to connect unless you really have to,run a cable from modem to box.It will gibe a better more stable connection.

Loads of info on the Enigma 2 thread and you will get plenty of advice there also.

yabadabado

They are supposed to be a very good box ,I have a similar set up with a Duo 2.I have 2 x DVB-S/S2 and 1 x DVB-C.

One bit of advice I wouldn't use wifi to connect unless you really have to,run a cable from modem to box.It will gibe a better more stable connection.

Loads of info on the Enigma 2 thread and you will get plenty of advice there also.

54and56

yabadabado wrote: »

One bit of advice I wouldn't use wifi to connect unless you really have to,run a cable from modem to box.It will gibe a better more stable connection.

Hi Yaba, thanks for the info. Unfortunately the TV is 2 rooms away from the Router but I do have an excellent Asus router and 100mb UPC broadband. ATM I have a WiFi connected Android Media box which streams live online content in HD over the WiFi connection no problem. I'm hoping the signal which Mutant receives will be good enough for a strong stable connection. I'll find out soon enough.

Gerry Wicklow

Je_suis_Jean wrote: »

Thanks Gerry, I'll use this thread to summarise how I get on and to beg for help as needed!!

Looking forward to the adventure.

My first question (an easy opener for one point) is what's the most practical Saorview Ariel to get? I have the Sat dish mounted and 2 X cables running to the existing Sky box which will hopefully allow me to just connect up the existing sat feeds to the Mutant but I don't have any Saorview feed. My house is 250 ft above sea level and the TV is relatively close to a window so if possible I'd prefer to have a discreet indoor Saorview ariel sitting just behind the TV with two outputs to facilitate the 2 x DVB-C/T/T2 tuners. Is that possible? Even if it may or may not work for the sake of €20 I'd like to give it a go before getting someone in to fit an external ariel and run more cables etc.

Any recommendations as to what ariel and cables I should get and from where? A quick search shows Harvey Norman carry a few - http://www.harveynorman.ie/tvs-headphones/set-top-boxes-and-aerials/aerials

Indoor aerials are not recommended for various reasons unless you are near the Saorview mast. One option if your location suits is to mount the aerial near the dish. It is then possible to 'piggyback' the signal onto the existing satellite coax. Check the Saorview site to see which direction the mast is. Don't get suckered into buying 'boosted' or 'amplified' indoor aerials, they are a con. Sites like this are better value.

boardie2011

@Je_suis_Jean I am looking at the same as yourself.

I am am currently a UPC/VirginMedia customer. I have the same requirements except I'd add an extra, the unit has to be quiet.

Thanks for sharing the information

boardie2011

Is there any advantage to using an SSD drive instead of the ones offered on the site?

yabadabado

boardie2011 wrote: »

Is there any advantage to using an SSD drive instead of the ones offered on the site?

I wouldnt think so,all the HHD does is save recording and timeshift functions afaik.
I was advised to use a small usb drive for 7day EPG,I use a 4gb drive I got for a few quid and does the job perfectly.

54and56

Gerry Wicklow wrote: »

Indoor aerials are not recommended for various reasons unless you are near the Saorview mast. One option if your location suits is to mount the aerial near the dish. It is then possible to 'piggyback' the signal onto the existing satellite coax.

Hi Gerry,

I'm just less than 5km from Three Rock as the crow flies with Three Rock being South South West (looks like 215 degrees) from my house. So with my house at 250 ft and Three Rock at 1,450 ft I'm hoping I can get a decent indoor signal but if I can't can you explain how the "Piggyback" Signal works? If I mount a Saorview ariel beside the Sat Dish (which I guess is pointing SSE at the Astra2 satellite group at 28.2E how does the sat dish cable pick up the Saorview signal and how do I extract that signal to input into the 2 x DVB-C/T/T2 tuners in the box?

Gerry Wicklow

I'm no expert but AFAIK you can mount the aerial near the dish and use a combiner/splitter to merge the aerial and (one) satellite signal at the dish and another unit to split them again at the receiver.

Thurston?

Je_suis_Jean wrote: »

I'm hoping I can get a decent indoor signal but if I can't can you explain how the "Piggyback" Signal works? If I mount a Saorview ariel beside the Sat Dish ...

The aerial doesn't have to be near the dish, although it seems it would suit in your case, but no need to compromise on aerial performance just to have it near the dish.

lertsnim

Use a usb stick for the EPG and picons.

54and56

lertsnim wrote: »

Use a usb stick for the EPG and picons.

Rather than the built in HDD?

54and56

Gerry Wicklow wrote: »

I'm no expert but AFAIK you can mount the aerial near the dish and use a combiner/splitter to merge the aerial and (one) satellite signal at the dish and another unit to split them again at the receiver.

Now I'm getting into the technical learning curve

yabadabado

Je_suis_Jean wrote:

Rather than the built in HDD?

Yes just set the EPG to the USB stick rather than HDD.

54and56

yabadabado wrote: »

Yes just set the EPG to the USB stick rather than HDD.

Why? What's the benefit?

dubrov

The idea is that you don't need to spin up the hdd every time it needs to access a picon. In theory access should be much quicker.

I believe epg/picons are stored on the hdd/usb but then loaded into flash memory anyway so i don't think it will really make any difference

lertsnim

dubrov wrote: »

I believe epg/picons are stored on the hdd/usb but then loaded into flash memory anyway so i don't think it will really make any difference

Moving to a USB stick made a big difference for me. My hard drive is set to sleep after 5 minutes as I don't want it running constantly and when I had the EPG and picons on the HDD I always had that loading icon in the corner when changing a channel or loading a channel list. Not anymore.

54and56

lertsnim wrote: »

Moving to a USB stick made a big difference for me. My hard drive is set to sleep after 5 minutes as I don't want it running constantly and when I had the EPG and picons on the HDD I always had that loading icon in the corner when changing a channel or loading a channel list. Not anymore.

Good to know.

dubrov

lertsnim wrote:

Moving to a USB stick made a big difference for me. My hard drive is set to sleep after 5 minutes as I don't want it running constantly and when I had the EPG and picons on the HDD I always had that loading icon in the corner when changing a channel or loading a channel list. Not anymore.

I guess the proof is in the pudding so it must not be copied to flash memory during operation

yabadabado

Plenty of people will say a USB stick is unnecessary but for the sake of a fiver well worth buying one.
No point having a HDD working when there is no need to.

54and56

Well I probably have 20 USB sticks floating about the house/office so if using one to keep the EPG on is easier on the HDD and actually performs better then it's a no brainer to do. Does it need to be a Kingston USB drive?

yabadabado

No it doesn't need to be a Kingston.Any small drive will do,I have some crappy brand 4GB in mine for months now with a problem.

stanley1

when it comes to flashing images, kingston or sandisk are the only ones that seem to work, for storage of picons/crossepg any old stick seems to work.

GY A1

use internet Homeplugs if u cant run a direct cable,

Je_suis_Jean wrote: »

Hi Yaba, thanks for the info. Unfortunately the TV is 2 rooms away from the Router but I do have an excellent Asus router and 100mb UPC broadband. ATM I have a WiFi connected Android Media box which streams live online content in HD over the WiFi connection no problem. I'm hoping the signal which Mutant receives will be good enough for a strong stable connection. I'll find out soon enough.

54and56

GY A1 wrote: »

use internet Homeplugs if u cant run a direct cable,

I can't. I tried to a couple of years ago but my fuse box contains very sensitive/thin fuses which don't transmit internet across different sections of the house. Within one fused area homeplugs work fine but one I try to run a homeplug from one fused area to another it drops to (for example) 0.5mb speed.

54and56

So my box is due to arrive tomorrow.

Any tips as to what I should do and the order I should so them to set up or should I just hook up the cables from the satellite dish, plug in the Saorview indoor ariel I spent few quid on today and see what happens???

yabadabado

Je_suis_Jean wrote: »

So my box is due to arrive tomorrow.

Any tips as to what I should do and the order I should so them to set up or should I just hook up the cables from the satellite dish, plug in the Saorview indoor ariel I spent few quid on today and see what happens???

When you have it all connected up,flash an image onto it and away you go.Some very good back up images available that will have a lot of the work done for you.

Missed #1 where you mentioned its flashed .

54and56

Thanks Yaba, yes it should be arriving with the latest OpenVix flashed but I'm sure I'll need/want to choose a good skin, order the channels in the way I want (RTEs -> BBC -> ITV -> TV3 etc etc) and set up of Auto Bouquets so I have an updated EPG etc.

I'm sure it'll be an interesting learning curve but I'm up for it.

I'm also interested to see what it's XBMC online streaming capability is going to be like plus I have a NAS on the home network full of content I could stream to it.

lertsnim

Confluence is a pretty magnificent skin. I love it.

54and56

lertsnim wrote: »

Confluence is a pretty magnificent skin. I love it.

I'm familiar with the confluence skin from using KODI. I personally think it's a bit too heavy/dark.

Is there a general tutorial on setting up an Enigma 2 box anyone can recommend e.g.

Step 1 - format a USB drive to FAT32.
Step 2 - set up Auto boquets
Step 3 - set up CrossEPG
Step 4 - set up CoolTV guide
Step 5 - choose preferred skin
Step 6 - watch tv!!

GY A1

there all seperate tutorials in there own right,
all available freely online
but setup in the order u named them

Je_suis_Jean wrote: »

I'm familiar with the confluence skin from using KODI. I personally think it's a bit too heavy/dark.

Is there a general tutorial on setting up an Enigma 2 box anyone can recommend e.g.

Step 1 - format a USB drive to FAT32.
Step 2 - set up Auto boquets
Step 3 - set up CrossEPG
Step 4 - set up CoolTV guide
Step 5 - choose preferred skin
Step 6 - watch tv!!

54and56

GY A1 wrote: »

but setup in the order u named them

Hooray!! I must have been paying some attention when reading the various if I got both the steps and their order correct first time!!

I know youTube will be my friend over the next few days/weeks as I figure out this box.

yabadabado

What is the advantage of having Cross EPG and Cool TV Guide?

dubrov

How about this:

Step 1 - format a USB drive to FAT32.
Step 2 - Set the DVB-C/T/T2 tuners to DVB-T2. It is in tuner settings somewhere.
Step 3 - set up Auto bouquets.
I found the best setup was to select provider Freesat UK London (region is down to user preference). Then also select Saorview and your local transmitter (Three Rock for Dublin). I also selected one main bouquet and no section bouquets. Upload the attached file "sat_282_freesat_CustomMix.xml" via FTP to /usr/lib/enigma2/python/Plugins/SystemPlugins/AutoBouquetsMaker/custom. Make sure to remove the .txt at the end of the filename (Boards won't allow xml file uploads)

This will setup Saorview as channels 1, 2, 3 etc. and the Freesat channels starting at 100. Everything will be in a single bouquet. See the Freesat wiki page for the full layout.

You should configure ABM to run in the middle of the night to pick up any channel changes.

Step 4 - set up CrossEPG. Configure it to run once each night to pick up EPG updates
Step 5 - set up CoolTV guide - I don't use this.
Step 6 - choose preferred skin - Blue HD is pretty close to Sky
Step 7 - watch tv!!

Don't worry about leaving these boxes on overnight. They consume very little power in standby.

54and56

^^ That's fantastic Dubrov. I'll follow your template and see how I get on. No blow back on you if I make a hash of it, I promise!!

A couple of general questions:-

1. Do I need to input an English (Harrods?) Postcode to use the English region for freesat?

2. Will the Irish Saorview channels be 001, 002 and so on with the UK channels then following 101, 102 and so on? (That would be ideal)

3. Will BBC iPlayer and ITV Player be available to use for catchup TV?

Looking forward to this!!

dubrov

1. ABM just lets you select a region (e.g. London, Manchester, Northern Ireland). No need to enter a postcode.
The region decides what variation of channel you get in each channel number (e.g. ITV London Vs UTV).
See here for the channel variations
http://www.insidethex.co.uk/xmltv/lineups/List_of_channels_on_Freesat.html

2. Saorview will be 1, 2, 3. Freesat will be as in detailed int he link above. i.e. Entertainment starting at 100, News channels starting at 200 etc.

3. BBC iPlayer and ITV Player are geolocked. Even if you get past the geoblocking iPlayer still won't work as BBC recently changed something so that nonofficial players won't work. RTE/TV3 players will definitely work. You need to install the "OnDemand" plugin and this can be done from the menu.

54and56

Well it's arrived but I just got home from work and have an early start tomorrow so I won't be opening it this evening.

54and56

1. Will a 2gb USB drive formatted to FAT32 do the trick for storage of Picons and the EPG info?

2. Could I use an SD card instead of a USB drive for the Picons and EPG? I think it would be a better option as it is less likely to get knocked out of place.

3. My box is configured as follows



I assume I just plug the Saorview cables into the top two inputs to the left and the satellite cables into the top two inputs to the right and that I don't need to do anything with the bottom four loop out connections or use the loop cable which came with the box in any way?

4. The Saorview ariel I got only has one cable coming out of it and no spare port to add another. Is it possible to somehow split the Ariel cable so I can have two inputs into the box or do I put the ariel input into the top left slot then take an old ariel cable and use that to link between the bottom loop out and the 2nd from left input thus giving that input a signal. <- Hope that makes some sense!!!

stanley1

Plenty, I've used a 250mb one for years.

54and56

dubrov wrote: »

Step 3 - set up Auto bouquets.
I found the best setup was to select provider Freesat UK London (region is down to user preference). Then also select Saorview and your local transmitter (Three Rock for Dublin). I also selected one main bouquet and no section bouquets. Upload the attached file "sat_282_freesat_CustomMix.xml" via FTP to /usr/lib/enigma2/python/Plugins/SystemPlugins/AutoBouquetsMaker/custom. Make sure to remove the .txt at the end of the filename (Boards won't allow xml file uploads)

OK, I figured out how to FTP the xml file and it's now on the box.

I've also figured out how to download the AutoBouquets E2 plugin and set the area to London with Scan Mode set to "Available HD", Sort Option to "HD First", daily updates set for 4am and Auto Picon set to "No" but I'm guessing that should probably be set to "Yes"?

Unfortunately I can't get any Saorview signal with the indoor ariel (I know I know!!) so I'm going to have to organise an external ariel and some cables run to the TV :-(

I also figured out hoe to download the Blue HD skin and that the CoolTV guide IPK file needs to be downloaded and FTP'd to the box. I stuck it in /usr/lib/enigma2/python/Plugins but I'm not sure if that's correct or whether I should stick it in /usr/lib/enigma2/python/Plugins/SystemPlugins where the CrossEPG and other Plugin's appear to have folders.

I've now got Satellite channels working but I can't figure out how to set up CoolTV Guide.

I think I'm starting the steep part of the learning curve!!!

tommycahir

Je_suis_Jean wrote: »

OK, this is where I'm stuck. I've the XML file on the new 8gb Kingston USB drive but I've no idea how to FTP it to the box.

I've also no idea how to download the Auto Bouquets plugin. The Plugin Browser on the box is showing the following plugins:

CrossEPG Downloader
Media Scanner
Multi-Transcoding Setup
OpenWebif
Picture Player

I think I'm starting the steep part of the learning curve!!!

Hit the green button on your remote and that should load a list of plugins that can be installed, autobouquets should be under extensions.
HOWEVER IIRC autobouquets should be installed already for you, try looking for it under setup or system rather than plugins as you need to choose a setting somewhere to have it show under plugins..

I am working off of experience with openatv and pbnigma so some menu options on openvix might be different

dubrov

You can find the OpenVix manual here
http://www.openvix.co.uk/openvix-builds/Guides%20and%20Tutorials/VIX%20Manual%20Vs%201.1.pdf

It is a little out of date but most of it still applies.

Don't use the AutoBouquets E2 plugin. It is aimed at the UK market and will only setup the satellite (UK FTA) channels for you

Autobouquetmaker (ABM) is a different program and will already be installed by default.
You can access it via Menu->Setup->Service searching->Autobouquetmaker
In there you can set the providers (Freesat UK) and configure the setup.

An FTP server should also be installed by default. You just need to switch it on.
I think it is somewhere in FTP settings.
You can set the username/password in there.
You need to use an FTP client on your PC to access it (e.g. Filezilla).

If you are unsure of the IP address of the box, you can find it somewhere in Network settings/status.

Once setup you shouldn't have to mess with the settings again.
You can also upload movie files to the box via FTP and play them using it.

Another good feature you might consider is enabling the DLNA server. It will make all movies/recordings stored on the box available to any device on your network. So if you have another smart tv in another room which is connected via Wifi, it will be able to see and play all the films/recordings on the box.

Good luck with your tinkering

54and56

dubrov wrote: »

You can find the OpenVix manual here
http://www.openvix.co.uk/openvix-builds/Guides%20and%20Tutorials/VIX%20Manual%20Vs%201.1.pdf

It is a little out of date but most of it still applies.

Can't believe I didn't look for something like this before I started!! It's time to RTFM

dubrov wrote: »

Don't use the AutoBouquets E2 plugin. It is aimed at the UK market and will only setup the satellite (UK FTA) channels for you

Autobouquetmaker (ABM) is a different program and will already be installed by default.
You can access it via Menu->Setup->Service searching->Autobouquetmaker
In there you can set the providers (Freesat UK) and configure the setup.

Thanks for that, I hadn't sussed the subtle difference in names. I guess I should uninstall the AutoBouquets E2 plugin and then the Autobouquetmaker will be one used by the system?

dubrov wrote: »

An FTP server should also be installed by default. You just need to switch it on.
I think it is somewhere in FTP settings.
You can set the username/password in there.
You need to use an FTP client on your PC to access it (e.g. Filezilla).

If you are unsure of the IP address of the box, you can find it somewhere in Network settings/status.

Yeah, I figured out the FTP process already and guessed the login and password were the same four letter word :rolleyes:

dubrov wrote: »

Another good feature you might consider is enabling the DLNA server. It will make all movies/recordings stored on the box available to any device on your network. So if you have another smart tv in another room which is connected via Wifi, it will be able to see and play all the films/recordings on the box.

I have a NAS loaded with content. If the box has DLNA capability does that mean I can use it as a media streamer and play NAS content without having to use my HTPC?

dubrov wrote: »

Good luck with your tinkering

Thanks Dubrov, I appreciate the help. I think I'll be tinkering for weeks/months at this rate!!!

dubrov

Uninstall the AB plugin as it will conflict with ABM.
Both will try and update the same bouquets in different ways.

Not only can the box play streams (DLNA client) but it can also supply them from files stored on its HDD(DLNA server).
So you could retire your NAS and HTPC.

I would imagine your dedicated NAS may have better performance though and possibly more than 1TB storage.
The HTPC could also play internet streams. There are some Enigma plugins that play some internet streams too so it depends on your needs.

54and56

dubrov wrote: »

Uninstall the AB plugin as it will conflict with ABM.
Both will try and update the same bouquets in different ways.

Not only can the box play streams (DLNA client) but it can also supply them from files stored on its HDD(DLNA server).
So you could retire your NAS and HTPC.

I would imagine your dedicated NAS may have better performance though and possibly more than 1TB storage.
The HTPC could also play internet streams. There are some Enigma plugins that play some internet streams too so it depends on your needs.

For now I just want to get the box up and running as a Sky replacement, once I've achieved that I'll try tinkering with using it as a NAS and check out it's XBMC capability etc. So far (just a few hours) I've been able to get it hooked up and get AutoBoquetMaker working so I have the UK FTA channels showing with the Blue HD Skin which gives a level of familiarity for the familiy. I'm disappointed I can't get the Saorview channels using the indoor ariel but I knew that was a toss of the coin.

Things I haven't yet done and/or don't know how to do:-

- Can't get CoolTV Guide working - I downloaded the enigma2-plugin-extensions-cooltvguide_Coolman_V7.3.0_all.ipk file from http://cooltvguide.com and FTP'd it into /usr/lib/enigma2/python/Plugins on the box but when I look in the list of Plugin's on the menu it's not there. Should I have put it into /usr/lib/enigma2/python/Plugins/SystemPlugins instead?

- In the EPG there are loads of "gaps" where there isn't any EPG info for the channel or there are channels listed I can't view such as Sky Sports. Is there a way for the EPG to only show the available FTA channels I can actually view?

dubrov

If you are seeing sky sports on the channel list you've done something wrong.

I suspect you selected Sky Ireland as the provider instead of Freesat Uk. It probably explains why you can't see the Irish channels as they are encrypted on satellite. So the good news is your aerial may still work.

I'd delete all bouquets and restart with abm

54and56

dubrov wrote: »

If you are seeing sky sports on the channel list you've done something wrong.

I suspect you selected Sky Ireland as the provider instead of Freesat Uk. It probably explains why you can't see the Irish channels as they are encrypted on satellite. So the good news is your aerial may still work.

I'd delete all bouquets and restart with abm

Thanks Dubrov, I'll delete all bouquets and start again with ABM and see if that sorts the problem.

BTW my box is configured as follows



The indoor Saorview ariel I got only has one cable coming out of it. Is it possible to somehow split the cable so I can have two inputs into the 2 X DVB-C/T/T2 tuners?

ATM I have the ariel cable plugged into the top left DVB-C/T/T2 tuner then I'm using an old ariel cable to link between the bottom loop out of the 1st DVB-C/T/T2 tuner and the input to the 2nd DVB-C/T/T2 tuner. Will that give the 2nd DVB-C/T/T2 tuner a signal?

54and56

OK, I deleted the exiting bouquets and configured ABM providers to Freesat(UK) "yes" and the area to London with FTA only set to "yes" and keep all non ABM bouquets to "No"

FreeviewUK) is set to "no" and Saorview is set to "yes" with the area set to 3 rock. Sky ROI is set to "no"as is Sky UK.

I then ran the "Start Scan" option and got 174 video and 38 radio readings on FreeSat but when it tries to tune Saorview I get an error "Timeout for tuner lock" and no channels are picked up.

Putting the Saorview issue aside for a minute (it might be the way I've hooked up the ariel - see post above) I'm still getting the EPG errors I mentioned earlier.

I'm getting channels with a picture but with no channel info in the EPG and channels listed in the EPG with programme info etc but when selected there is no picture such as ITV4 HD and other times I select a channel and get an error "Service not found! (SID not found in PAT)"

The channel numbers on the EPG run from 101 (BBC1) to 276 (AMC from BTHD)

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