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Algae on walls

  • 06-02-2016 8:16pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,953 ✭✭✭


    I had the exterior walls dry dashed a few years ago in the hope of avoiding future maintainence, unfortunately it is now covered in reddish/brown crap.
    Is there any product to solve this problem, or will end up painting the walls.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,422 ✭✭✭dathi


    aujopimur wrote: »
    I had the exterior walls dry dashed a few years ago in the hope of avoiding future maintainence, unfortunately it is now covered in reddish/brown crap.
    Is there any product to solve this problem, or will end up painting the walls.

    there is no such thing as a maintainence free finish on a house exterior. house hold bleach sprayed on with a cheap weed sprayer will clear it or you can splash the cash and buy an algicide google larsons


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 828 ✭✭✭dingdong1234567


    Sodium hypochlorite (chlorine) diluted down in a napback sprayer. Spray on walls and wash of with hose. It will leave walls like new and lasts for years before you'll have to do it again.

    The above can be got at any co-op or agricultural store.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,063 ✭✭✭Cerco


    Sodium hypochlorite (chlorine) diluted down in a napback sprayer. Spray on walls and wash of with hose. It will leave walls like new and lasts for years before you'll have to do it again.

    The above can be got at any co-op or agricultural store.

    In diluting, what ratio would you suggest ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 828 ✭✭✭dingdong1234567


    Cerco wrote: »
    In diluting, what ratio would you suggest ?


    As per manufacturer's instructions. Not my place to advise on dilution ratio chap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,063 ✭✭✭Cerco


    As per manufacturer's instructions. Not my place to advise on dilution ratio chap.

    Sorry, I thought you had some experience of using it for the requested application.
    Perhaps someone else can assist?
    I have used Domestos mixed with water 60/40 , water / bleach. It works pretty well but needs yearly application. If chlorine is better I would be interested in hearing from more about it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 828 ✭✭✭dingdong1234567


    Cerco wrote: »
    Sorry, I thought you had some experience of using it for the requested application.
    Perhaps someone else can assist?
    I have used Domestos mixed with water 60/40 , water / bleach. It works pretty well but needs yearly application. If chlorine is better I would be interested in hearing from more about it.

    I have experience, just not advising people as to mix ratio on a public forum - QED. Not my place. Talk to any farmer that has a milking parlour, same method of use would apply.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,422 ✭✭✭dathi


    Sodium hypochlorite (chlorine) diluted down in a napback sprayer. Spray on walls and wash of with hose. It will leave walls like new and lasts for years before you'll have to do it again.

    The above can be got at any co-op or agricultural store.

    Household bleach is, in general, a solution containing 3–8% sodium hypochlorite and 0.01–0.05% sodium hydroxide; so we are talking about the same stuff. if you are using household bleach mix it 50/50 with water before spraying it on wall


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,938 ✭✭✭galljga1


    Sodium Hypochlorite that I buy from a chemical supplier is 14% and will literally burn through most substances so take care when diluting. Household bleach is normally 3-4%, some can be stronger, I guess but I have yet to come across it. To remove algae from sandstone requires a yearly application, it will grow back. Not sure about the red/brown crap you see on some walls.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,591 ✭✭✭tommycahir


    This thread is actually perfect timing as I am looking at the moment on how to get rid of that those red streaks on the gable wall of my house (like ones in this picture) and to clean off all my footpaths which have green algae and black discolouration.

    Could I use Sodium hypochlorite as mentioned above or would I be better to use something like algoclear on them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,907 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    For footpaths I recommend using granular chlorine, wet the path and sprinkle the grains, use a stiff brush and work them in to the path.
    Leave them on for 30min and then hose off.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,952 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    CJhaughey wrote:
    For footpaths I recommend using granular chlorine, wet the path and sprinkle the grains, use a stiff brush and work them in to the path. Leave them on for 30min and then hose off.


    Would you know where to get that at a decent price CJ, please


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,907 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    Pool suppliers, Chemical suppliers would be two places it should be easily got.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,952 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    I'll find out and get back. We suffer from this front and back in the yard and front path .
    Recently we had some old cooking vinegar it was well past it's use by date. I poured it on the footpath outside where I have moss, this moss is very slippery in Winter an old person could slip easily.

    Anyway where the vinegar landed it killed the moss over night. Obviously you wouldn't put this red vinegar on a wall. But it worked better than Thompson path cleaner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,422 ✭✭✭dathi


    CJhaughey wrote: »
    For footpaths I recommend using granular chlorine, wet the path and sprinkle the grains, use a stiff brush and work them in to the path.
    Leave them on for 30min and then hose off.

    here is the safety data sheet for granular chlorine please be careful as whent it comes in contact with water it gives off chlorine gas which can cause chronic lung damage
    http://www.commercialaquaticsupplies.com/MSDS%20calcium%20hypochlorite.pdf


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,907 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    dathi wrote: »
    here is the safety data sheet for granular chlorine please be careful as whent it comes in contact with water it gives off chlorine gas which can cause chronic lung damage
    http://www.commercialaquaticsupplies.com/MSDS%20calcium%20hypochlorite.pdf
    Point well made however in my experience using it outdoors chlorine gas is generally not as big a problem as it would be when used indoors or a confined space.
    But do be careful with it as with any chemicals including bleach.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,730 ✭✭✭Balmed Out


    Just make sure never to mix chlorine and beech. Will produce chlorine gas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,952 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    All good points, it is a DIY forum all the same and we do assume that people are aware of that and will still go about their projects in a safe way, being mindful of the risks and dangers and taking steps to mitigate same, reading labels on containers, double checking, questioning suppliers etc, still a great point about the gasses here, I've heard that before alright well worth highlighting it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 95 ✭✭marsbar1


    tommycahir wrote: »
    This thread is actually perfect timing as I am looking at the moment on how to get rid of that those red streaks on the gable wall of my house (like ones in this picture) and to clean off all my footpaths which have green algae and black discolouration.

    Could I use Sodium hypochlorite as mentioned above or would I be better to use something like algoclear on them?

    Every day is a school day. I had no idea that red stuff you see all over house walls is algae. I thought it was some kind of red streak or mineral seeping out of the rendering into the paint. It makes sense now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 ianm1234


    It's caused by the dye used in render or a high level of iron that was in the sand and is now rusting from moisture, use household bleach then scrub with deck brush and wash off with garden hose not a power washer because you'll pit the render and be back in a few months, then apply a sealer & 2-3 coats of good quality paint


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,749 ✭✭✭corks finest


    Cerco wrote: »
    In diluting, what ratio would you suggest ?


    As per manufacturer's instructions. Not my place to advise on dilution ratio chap.
    Meowwwwe


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭dok_golf


    ianm1234 wrote: »
    It's caused by the dye used in render or a high level of iron that was in the sand
    No it's not, it's a form of algae.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 ianm1234


    dok_golf wrote: »
    ianm1234 wrote: »
    It's caused by the dye used in render or a high level of iron that was in the sand
    No it's not, it's a form of algae.

    Algae isn't red it's green, it becomes red because of the added colour in render


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭dok_golf


    Agreed algae is green but you never mentioned algae at all in your post
    http://softwashireland.ie/cleaning-wall-render.php


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭dok_golf


    Also , if its caused by dye in the render, how come it thrives on "regular" rendered walls?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 ianm1234


    dok_golf wrote: »
    Also , if its caused by dye in the render, how come it thrives on "regular" rendered walls?

    Has plenty of causes, alot of iron in the sand naturally and making it rust, can happen when you have large sap trees by the side of your house or from a pond/lake and it also happens alot with houses near the sea from iron & salt, same as concrete going green with it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭dok_golf


    Making what rust? The red staining ( when caused by algae ) is essentially the green algae shi**ing itself. Its a by product of its' feeding process.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 116 ✭✭bman1


    Mosgo do a product called Green Remover. I've used it. Does exactly what it says it will. Obviously doesn't get rid of dirt. Used it on gable walls that were very bad because they didn't get any sun on them really. Had it all killed off in bout 3 days. They also do a product just for that red algae. But I don't know anything about that, just saw it in the shop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 ianm1234


    dok_golf wrote: »
    Making what rust? The red staining ( when caused by algae ) is essentially the green algae shi**ing itself. Its a by product of its' feeding process.

    It makes iron in the sand rust which can stain the wall,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭dok_golf


    The best one I've used is Owatrol ATM 007. Kills all moss, mould, algae and doesn't discolour the walls


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭dok_golf


    ianm1234 wrote: »
    It makes iron in the sand rust which can stain the wall,
    Sorry, but it doesn't. The only thing that can make iron rust is oxidisation

    Rust is an iron oxide, a usually red oxide formed by the redox reaction of iron and oxygen in the presence of water or air moisture. Several forms of rust are distinguishable both visually and by spectroscopy, and form under different circumstances. Rust consists of hydrated iron(III) oxides Fe2O.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52 ✭✭ChrisBan


    I have the same problem, I buy Chloros, it's used by farmers for a variety of sterilisation purposes, get it in my local Co- Op Stores for a few Euro, dilute as per instructions on the container, apply with a sprayer, leave for a short while and wash off with water.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,721 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    ChrisBan wrote: »
    I have the same problem, I buy Chloros, it's used by farmers for a variety of sterilisation purposes, get it in my local Co- Op Stores for a few Euro, dilute as per instructions on the container, apply with a sprayer, leave for a short while and wash off with water.

    Yep.
    Best solution.

    The product is Hypachloride which is sold under many names. Should be about €20 for a 20l drum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 Coley35


    Yea I agree, Chloras can be purchased at your local Co-op (€8.50 per 5ltr drum). Wet the path/wall, spray on Chloras mixed with water as per instructions, leave for 15-30 minutes and then wash off with garden hose, should do the job!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,591 ✭✭✭tommycahir


    Coley35 wrote: »
    Yea I agree, Chloras can be purchased at your local Co-op (€8.50 per 5ltr drum). Wet the path/wall, spray on Chloras mixed with water as per instructions, leave for 15-30 minutes and then wash off with garden hose, should do the job!


    Would that also deal with the footpaths turning greenish/black ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 Coley35


    tommycahir wrote: »
    Would that also deal with the footpaths turning greenish/black ?

    Yea it's good for that too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 341 ✭✭tweek84


    Sorry to drag up an old thread but has anyone used chloras on coarse brick to clean off black lichen? Any idea if the chloras damages the brick?
    As I said it is coarse brick not the smooth brick.

    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,773 ✭✭✭poker--addict


    So for red algae, bleach 50/50 and no need for 4 drums of 80 euro biocide ?


    some companies out there charging nearly 2k to soft wash house

    😎



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭GBX


    What would be the best option for rendered outside walls showing signs of algae?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 485 ✭✭Klopp


    I have used Actiwash and it worked well on our rendered walls. The difference after a couple of weeks was worth it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 618 ✭✭✭mikehn


    I used the bleach trick and got excellent results.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,773 ✭✭✭poker--addict


    Bleach changed red algae to a much more faded green in my case. Not sure will that wash away - doubt it at this stage. A lot better than dark red though.

    😎



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