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A life in the day..

  • 30-01-2016 10:03pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭


    I meant to start this log a little earlier but I moved house just before Christmas and sorting and sticking to my resolution of at least a mile a day has been higher priorities.

    Keeping a public log has never really worked for me before so I've set the goal of keeping it for the full year so that I don't give up the first time that I hit a sticky patch.

    I'm pretty pleased with how January has gone. Typically I tend to hibernate in the winter months, waiting for the freezing cold and howling wind to give way to a more gentle climate. Moving to West Kirby (Liverpool) from Bournemouth won't do me any favours in that regard!

    The imperative to get out every day has been a big boost - driving up and down from Bournemouth to Liverpool several times before Christmas triggered some sciatica and in the past I would have just worked on sorting that out but this time I've continued to run through it. It's still a pain but it's a manageable one and I've managed about 127 miles so far this year. That's according to the Strava app on my phone which is anything but consistent but I haven't located my garmin since the move and I reckon that it's got to be in the ball park of accurate.

    I'm cautiously building a base with lots of fairly easy running interspersed with a few pickups and some steady stuff. So far that's meant weeks of (approx.) 30, 35, 40 and back to 30 this week once I've run tomorrow.

    I guess that I hope that plenty of people will jump in and comment as I keep this log. I usually end up being fairly conservative in my approach but I enjoy thinking about some of the more esoteric ideas.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,009 ✭✭✭Firedance


    Will be following with great interest :) do you have any goal races for the year M?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭Clearlier


    Firedance wrote: »
    Will be following with great interest :) do you have any goal races for the year M?

    Not yet. A lot depends on whether and which club I join. There's nothing very local and I'm currently starting to look for work a full time athlete so I'll probably wait until I'm settled into a longer term routine to make a decision on which club to join.

    I'm probably a natural 800m runner but I'd only train for that seriously as part of a group and there's an argument that at 38 I might be better off focusing on longer distances. I'd really like to do DCM again. I really enjoy half marathons. I'll probably end up running races at a variety of distances. If I can run consistently without injury I'd expect to be able to PB at everything over 1500m without the need to specifically target a race.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭Dubgal72


    Deadly stuff and about time :D
    So from 'a natural 800m runner' to "really enjoy half marathons"....the (running) world's your oyster! Looking forward to following this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭Dubgal72


    Deadly stuff and about time :D
    So from 'a natural 800m runner' to "really enjoy half marathons"....the (running) world's your oyster! Looking forward to following this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    Delighted to see you start the log Clearlier.

    Good luck with the base training!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,304 ✭✭✭Chartsengrafs


    Good luck with the log and continued training!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭Clearlier


    Sun: 8 miles
    Monday: 3.5
    Tuesday: 7 with 12*30 second bursts (probably about 800m effort)
    Wednesday: 3.5
    Thursday: 7

    The pace varies from day to day, if I feel good I go a bit faster, if I feel tired I go a bit slower.

    Found my garmin and brought it along with my phone and the strava app today and found that the Strava app isn't as far out as I feared. It still over measures a bit but it had my 7 miles today at 7.1 which isn't anything worth getting worried about. Might stick with the phone as it's a bit of a pain to check on how far you've gone so I don't check it as often as I do with a watch.

    I've been quite fortunate to move to a place where there's a former railway line running about 2 mins jog away and that's where I've been doing 90% of my runs. Here's a couple of pictures from a nice day!

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    and this one of the actual trail/old railway line:

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 329 ✭✭mbarr


    Great to see this log, really enjoyed your contributions to the novice thread last year. Looking forward to reading :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭Bungy Girl


    What a lovely place to run! That trail looks great. Wishing you many happy miles on it :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,199 ✭✭✭denis b


    Best of luck with the log. The old line looks like it provides a nice bit of shelter.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,921 ✭✭✭Kennyg71


    Looking forward to reading yor exploits, and having public log does help with commitment, best luck with where ever it takes you.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭Clearlier


    Friday - 3.6
    Saturday - 6.2 although Strava had a moment, measuring it at 6.5 including an impressive 72 second half mile! I'd struggle to do that on a bike.
    Sunday - 9.3

    The week came in at around 40 miles which was bang on target. I probably did about 5 miles at something around marathon pace effort (others might called it AT) over the weekend as well as the 12*30 second pickups on Tuesday. Happy with the week.

    Monday - 3.6
    Tuesday - 8.2 incl. 8*45s pickups.
    Wednesday - 3.8

    I'm rotating between 4 pairs of runners at the moment some of which should probably be in the bin - in fact I'm going to bin the ones that I wore today even though they're my newest as it's the second time I've had knee pain after wearing them recently. They've probably had 300-400 miles on them so they're not actually new by any means.

    Time to find a new pair of runners I think. Anyone any suggestions for neutral, reasonably cushioned runners that don't break the bank? Very happy to get old models that are discounted as I don't like buying the same pair twice in a row.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭Bungy Girl


    Clearlier wrote: »
    Time to find a new pair of runners I think. Anyone any suggestions for neutral, reasonably cushioned runners that don't break the bank? Very happy to get old models that are discounted as I don't like buying the same pair twice in a row.

    Saucony Kinvaras ? Neutral, 4mm drop and nice and light. Most of the usual websites have the old models (4.0, 5.0) on discount. I think they're up to 6.0 now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭Clearlier


    Gone freezing over here the past couple of days. The thread about shorts and tights has me laughing. Tights (leggings) for me for almost every run these days and even then I don't always get warm enough - not trying hard enough maybe :).

    Thursday - 8.2 miles with 4 as a progressive tempo - roughly 7:40, 7:20, 7:00 and 6:40. Working pretty hard for the last one with the thought in the back of my mind that it includes a strava segment. Took 1 second off my personal record but even if I went flat out I wouldn't be near the guy who holds the record who did it as part of a ten mile tempo in 50 mins :eek: I dug out the HRM for this to find that my bpm is coming in at about 1050. When I'm below 1000 I reckon I'll be ready to break 40 mins for a 10k.
    Friday - A brisk 3.5 in the evening - brisk because it was freezing again. Did it around the marine lake that they have here for the sailing club. The sea/river around me is essentially a huge estuary. When the tide is in it's fine for water sports but when it's out you can walk to an island so totally unsuitable for water sports. Thus frustrated the locals (in 1901) built a wall which is low enough to let the water in at high tide but retains the water when the tide goes out. Very nice it is too.
    Saturday - 10
    Sunday 8.5

    Just over 45 for the week which was the target. Happy with that I went shoe hunting and ended up getting three pairs after I promised to get rid of all the pairs that I currently have.

    I got the Mizuno Mujin which arrived this afternoon and seem fine - they'll get a test drive tomorrow. I've never had a trail shoe before so I'm looking forward to seeing how they go.
    I'm now waiting for the Mizuno wave rider 18 and the New Balance 870v3. I was tempted by your suggestion Bungy Girl but I realised that I've never worn Saucony before and there aren't any running shops nearby so I was ordering online and I thought it best to order a brand that I know my size in (NB and Mizuno are a full size different for me).

    Monday - Half term this week so I have to fit in running like a normal person does this week. I took the boys into liverpool where they spent the entire day in a play centre called underwater street - recommended if you have young kids and are in liverpool. I got out relatively late for 4 easy miles that took me as far as the entrance to the Royal Liverpool golf club which is on the British Open circuit. I stopped for a moment to take a look at the clubhouse which even in near total darkness is pretty grand. As I started back I realised that somebody was watching me from the other side of the road a bit strangely. A little while later I realised that they probably saw someone dressed in black suddenly emerge from the entrance to the golf club and start running - probably looked a bit suspicious!
    Tuesday - Took advantage of the in laws looking after the two boys to get in 8 very hilly miles which was a bit of a shock to the system after the pancake flat old railroad that I've gotten used to. Enjoyed it but realised that I lost the remote for my car which must have fallen off my keys somewhere. I had visions of driving back with my alarm beeping incessantly but fortunately it stopped as soon as I put the keys in the ignition. Reminded me of a friend who is deaf that was driving along wonder why everybody was gesticulating at her to realise when she got to her destination that she had forgotten to turn off the alarm when she got in and had driven the whole way with her alarm going! Another freezing cold day - it took 45 mins before my hands stopped feeling like blocks of ice. Just found my running gloves so they'll be put back into service tomorrow.

    The body is creaking a bit but overall it's holding up pretty well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭Clearlier


    Wednesday - 4.3 - The other 2 pairs of runners arrived today. The New Balance didn't work out at all and I just sent them straight back. I ended up testing out the wave riders on this run and am a little disappointed that I can't send them back now tbh - they just don't seem to fit very well. I'll give them a few more short runs to see if I grow into them.

    Thursday - 9 miles with an attempt at 4 at aerobic threshold - I say attempt because I never quite got going particularly for the first 2. Still had miles ranging from 7:01 to 7:21 which is a good deal faster than my easy pace so far from a wasted session. I also gave the Mujin a go. The sensible option would have been to wait for a short day but they felt very comfortable. They're light and they provide noticeably better traction on the muddier parts so they're looking like a good choice at the moment.

    Friday - 4.2

    Saturday My eldest had his 9th birthday today and we bought him a bike. The weather was absolutely horrible but he insisted that he wanted to come out with me while I ran and he cycled. Even the Strava app gave up at one stage and cut out. It was a half mile before I realised and set it to start again. Lots of stopping and starting as he got used to the bike. We were both glad to get back to the house after this one!

    Sunday - 12 very slow miles - My last run before a down week and the fatigue had really caught up with me by this stage. In contrast to the previous day the weather was lovely with temperatures touching the teens. I didn't quite believe though and still insisted on leggings and a jumper which in hindsight was a mistake as I was a bit hot. Whatever the reason I averaged 9:15 pace for this one and it was hard hard work. I spent the vast majority of the run ignoring other people on the trail and telling myself to hold good posture.

    51 miles for the week which is a nice little milestone to reach.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,237 ✭✭✭AuldManKing


    Clearlier wrote: »
    Wednesday - 4.3 - The other 2 pairs of runners arrived today. The New Balance didn't work out at all and I just sent them straight back. I ended up testing out the wave riders on this run and am a little disappointed that I can't send them back now tbh - they just don't seem to fit very well. I'll give them a few more short runs to see if I grow into them.

    .

    I wear both DS Trainers & the NB 870v4 and while the NB took a while to get used to, I love them now - they are my goto long run shoe - not so much for a session.
    If you are looking for a neutral runner - why the NB 870's as they are a stability shoe?
    I agree with the wave riders - I also bought a pair and sent them back as they didn't 'fit right' around the ankle (I bought them in a shop and had tried them on).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭Clearlier


    I wear both DS Trainers & the NB 870v4 and while the NB took a while to get used to, I love them now - they are my goto long run shoe - not so much for a session.
    If you are looking for a neutral runner - why the NB 870's as they are a stability shoe?
    I agree with the wave riders - I also bought a pair and sent them back as they didn't 'fit right' around the ankle (I bought them in a shop and had tried them on).

    It's around the midfoot that the wave riders don't fit me very well. They were better on their second outing but still not good enough for anything other than a short recovery run.

    I thought I'd try the 870's because they were described as a mild stability shoe and I know that I do move around a fair bit to the point where AK and other running shops would recommend a stability shoe. I decide a while back to stick to neutral only and should have stuck to that. Hopefully I've learned my lesson this time :).

    I've just received the Mizuno Wave Ultima 6 (I had the 7 before) and it seems comfortably enough if a little chunky.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭Clearlier


    I'm well overdue an update at this stage! Mostly because I've been away skiing. I'm going to break this down into two posts I think.

    I don't remember many details of the individual runs but I do remember being pretty wiped and totally ready for a down week. Ideally it would have been a week later to fit in with going skiing but doing another 'up' week would have just been inviting illness/injury. I did consider front loading the week as I was leaving on the Saturday but my legs made it very clear that wasn't going to happen :).

    Monday 22nd - 3.5
    Tuesday 23rd - 7.1
    Wednesday 24th - 4.9 - I have been doing back to back longer runs at the weekends and I thought that I might be able to get away with doing it midweek instead but the body just wasn't up for it so I cut it short.
    Thursday 25th - 7.1
    Friday 26th - 3.7
    Saturday 27th - 1.8 - I struggle to get loose enough to run early in the morning but I didn't think that I would get out for a run that evening so I took 10 mins or so out and did a quick run - 6:26 pace so reasonably quick for me at the moment.

    Sunday 28th - Day 1 of skiing. I've been paired with someone who can definitely ski but who goes at a pace that I find very straightforward. Afer we get back I ask one of the hotel owners where I can run. Some comedy ensues as her English is at about the same level as my German but my running clothes give a good hint as to what I want to do and after a few hand signals I work out that there's a path by the river which is about 5 miles long if I take a left turn when I reach it. I take said left turn but less than a mile the path is blocked off for some kind of building work. With the river to my right and the main road to my left there's nothing for it but to find out what was in the opposite direction. 2 miles later I ran out of path as I arrived at the edge of the Salzach river. 2 miles is enough though and I go back and forth until I get to 9.6 miles. Surprisingly I realised that it's warmer here than it was in Liverpool and I could easily have worn shorts (if I had brought any).

    A total of 37.7 miles for the week which I'm happy enough with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭Clearlier


    Monday 29th - 3.6 – Fitting in with the warmth I noticed the previous evening the snow was a bit slushy and the person that I was guiding had gone off with an instructor to improve their turns so I help to guide my wife. Unfortunately whilst waiting for a slope to clear someone skis over the back of the skis of the person that I’m guiding for the week and they have a minor but awkward fall which results in being brought off the mountain on a skidoo and to the hospital. Fortunately there’s nothing serious wrong but she’s put out of action for a few days.
    Tues 30th - 4 – It snowed overnight and the temperature has gone back to what you might expect in February up the Austrian mountains. The skiing is a bit more robust as my wife wanted to work on technical stuff and while I’m told that I ski reasonably well I haven’t a clue how to instruct people on improving their skiing. I headed off with a few of the more adventurous skiers acting as sweeper to pick up anyone left behind. A very straightforward job! My legs were pretty heavy so I just did the 4 miles.
    Wednesday - 4 - Much better skiing as there's a layer of powder above the ice now. I was back with my wife and others this day. She really enjoyed the challenge of getting down a slightly slushy steep slope but it was hard work and my legs still heavy that evening so again I left it at just 4.
    Thursday - Streak broken - The day started off really well. It had snowed through the night and the skiing was just fantastic although many of the blind/VI skiers struggled with the different environment. I got a tip to lean back a little to negotiate powder and it worked a treat although my quads were quickly killing me. I was skiing with the more adventurous skiers again but I bumped into my wife who wasn't feeling great so I accompanied her back to the gondola's where she headed for home with an instructor who wasn't enjoying the very snowy conditions and had decided to pack it in for the day. After dropping her off I skied for around for an hour in search of the others without finding them but enjoyed the great conditions. It wasn’t long though before I start feeling a bit off though and head back towards the gondola's myself.
    My throat quickly got sore enough that even talking was painful. Someone gave me some strepsils but 3 of them had no impact so I headed to the pharmacy who quickly directed me to the doctor who took one look at my throat and prescribed antibiotics. It was astonishing just how quickly I went from feeling fine to just wanting to curl up in a ball and die :(. I went to bed for 24 hrs and ate nothing other than pills until the following night. I did consider seeing if I could jog a mile but the short walk to the pharmacy and doctor told me that it would just be stupid. I had resolved to be a bit stupid in pursuit of my goal to run at least a mile every day this year but I wasn’t prepared to be stupid enough it seems.
    Friday was spent in bed. I eventually surfaced in the evening and as it was the last night I headed over to the bar for an hour or so. I was in bed by 10:30 though which is totally unlike me.
    Saturday was travel day and I was thankfully beginning to see some light at the end of the tunnel. Swallowing was beginning to be feasible without huge discomfort.
    Sunday I could probably have run and would have if my streak was still intact but on this occasion I decided to give it a rest for one more day.
    Monday – 1.7 – I was feeling much better by this stage but still a bit weak and 1.7 was as much as I could do. Even though it has only been 4 days it’s almost like my body has forgotten how to run.
    Tuesday – 1.7 around marine lake. I slightly misjudged the tide and got a bit wet. I was definitely getting stronger and felt able for more but I was still feeling pretty stiff and un-coordinated. I’m doing a squat matrix and myrtle routine most days and this was helping with co-ordination.
    Wednesday – 4.5 – Time to lengthen it out a little so back onto the Wirral way and it went absolutely fine.
    Thursday – 7.7 – Felt great today, first time that I’ve been normal since I fell ill. This was done at a relatively quick 7:47 pace. I noticed that my posture has gotten pretty poor so something to keep working on
    Friday – 4.6 – Back to a normal pace and it feels like I’m back to normal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭Clearlier


    A quick clarification - the reason that I was guiding is because I was skiing with a group of blind skiers. It's a rare nice story coming out of the troubles in the north where 30 years ago the Army decided to do some community outreach by bringing a group of blind people skiing, half from the north and half from the south. The original funding has long since dried up and I think that only one of the people involved this year is actually in the army and many of the guides like me have never had anything to do with the army but the group grew and evolved to the stage where 32 people came this year with about 14 of them blind or partially sighted. This is the fourth time that I've gone on the trip and it's a great way to meet a very diverse bunch of characters.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭Clearlier


    So I ran a race.

    Saturday 12th March - 1.7 - just a shakeout before tomorrow's race although I got a little more shaken than expected when a dog made a sharp turn into my path as I passed him causing me take a tumble, fortunately nothing more serious than a few scrapes although it certainly got the adrenalin flowing!

    Sunday 13th - Liverpool 10 mile road race

    This was a new event introduced as an add on to the Liverpool half marathon. The half was already full by the time I went looking but in truth a ten mile race suited me much better as I haven't done any longer runs and I could have a go at my PB which is probably my softest one at 69:40.

    I arrived in plenty of time and went searching for a car park only to discover that everyone else was parking on the very wide footpath along the docks. There was still plenty of space for wheelchairs etc. to pass so I joined the crowd and got changed in the car. I jogged down to the start and went looking for some pins. I had only warmed up for a mile or so but it felt like enough so I joined the queue for the toilets and did some standing Myrtl stuff while waiting. The queues took forever and when I eventually got out there was just 5 mins to the start. The ten mile race and the half were starting from the same place at the same time so with 5,000+ people there was a bit of a crowd. My plan was to take the first two steady using my HRM to hold me back and then to push on. I had envisaged joining the 1:30 pacers but that took a back seat to just getting as far forward as I can when I saw the congestion at the back. I jogged down as far as I could and hopped the barriers and made my way forwards. I had gotten as far as the 1:40 pacers when the countdown started which left me worried as I didn't want to head out at 8mm pace. I shouldn't have worried though as everyone took off like a bat out of hell and I was quickly doing 7mm pace around the outside including hurdling a dog which a spectator briefly lost control of.

    The course was described as flat with one hill which over the first few miles seemed a bit generous as it went up and down quite a lot. The first mile in particular was mostly uphill and the second mile included the hill. I did take a look at my HRM but I clearly hadn't wet it enough as the readings were higher than they should have been. According to my Garmin (which measured the course slightly short as it often does) Mile 1 came in at 7:08 and mile 2 at 7:28.

    For whatever reason I didn't get myself going here at mile 3 as planned. The course was still pretty undulating and there were a lot of people but I still should have put the foot down a bit more for what was more a downhill mile than anything else. My HRM was working by now and it says that I ran 6:42 but with a HR of 152 which is well below the 160 I was planning to limit myself to. I was still trundling along lacking focus during mile 4 when the turnaround point for the ten mile race was. I could see 7 runners heading back along the road who were ahead of me and it was like a jolt of electricity hit me. I decided that I was in 8th (9th when a runner just in front of me turned too) and my racing head came on. I went straight past the guy in front of me and set about chasing down the other 7. Mile 4 came in at 6:48 and 158.
    I quickly caught and passed 8th, 7th and 6th as I enjoyed the quietness at the front of a race.Mile 5 was my quickest of the race at 6:27 and 161 but I had stopped looking at my watch at this stage and was just racing the other runners.
    5th took a little longer to overhaul and then on a long straight I could see 4th, 3rd and 2nd stretched out ahead of me. Mile 6 came in at 6:51 and 160.
    4th was closing in on 3rd and took a while to catch and pass but I went by 3rd very shortly afterwards. I could still see 2nd ahead but had no sight of 1st.

    The course was pretty twisty with a few sharp turns and some diversions in and out of car parks. I was closing on 2nd slowly during mile 7 which came in at 6:43 and 162. Mile 8 was more of the same for 6:52 and 162. I still thought that I'd catch 2nd but hadn't seen first until we turned onto the seafront and I thought I could see two runners in the distance ahead whom I initially thought must not be part of the race but of course I wasn't in 3rd place which was confirmed to me by a marshal who told me that I was in 9th.

    I think that mentally I must have been a little disappointed to hear that I was in 9th as my edge went a little for a while with mile 9 coming in at 6:53 and 161. I was woken up again though by the winner of the half marathon coming past me accompanied by two cyclists. I sped up a little and set about catching the guy in front of me. I was passed by 3 more half marathon runners who were notable for how much smaller than me they are and just how still they hold their upper bodies. I'm back down to 81kg from the 86.5 I was after Christmas but there's still plenty of scope to improve on that.

    Coming towards the end I decided to use the finishing line as my friend. I knew that the other runner in the 10 mile race had also been passed by the half runners so I used the noise of the crowd so that he wouldn't hear me coming and went past him quickly enough to make him think that I was a half runner. Sure enough he didn't respond. The last mile was incomplete on Garmin but had me at 6:33 pace and 164 bpm. I had measured from the first timing mat to the last at 68:04 which was rounded down by the organisers to 68:00 chip time. The guy I passed coming up to the finish line had crossed the start line nearly a minute ahead of me so any feelings of guilt at my subterfuge were quickly washed away.

    I enjoyed the novelty of finishing a big city race near the front, watched the winners get their photos taken and was the first into the massage tent. I wasn't impressed by the massage at the time but given that the only places that don't hurt today were where they massaged it seems like they got it spot on.

    I did a couple of tired miles along the docks afterwards to warm down and came back to a text from the organisers telling me that I had finished in 68:00 for 7th place.

    68:00 is a 100 second PB which I'm happy with given the training that I've done. I'll hope to improve on that if I run another one this year but so far it's one race and one PB.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭Clearlier


    Another long delay between posts signals nothing good in anybody's log!

    Monday 14th - Legs were pretty sore so just 1.7 miles to get things moving.
    Tuesday 15th - Legs still very sore so repeated yesterday
    Wednesday 16th - Very disappointed that the legs were still sore especially as although I did race it I didn't throw the kitchen sink at it. 1.8 miles at a slightly frisky pace.

    I started considering why my legs were still so sore and concluded that: it's not sore legs so much as sore quads that I have and I ran down the downhills in the race which puts a lot of stress on your quads. Add in that all of my training has been on the flat and that's a significant portion of the problem. I also haven't been running long in training so 10 miles at a good pace was always going to be pretty demanding. Finally there's an outside chance that the antibiotics had an impact. I don't really think so but it's a possibility.

    Thursday - 2.1 miles and the quads while still are finally showing signs of improvement.
    Friday - Sick again, back to the doctor, more antibiotics, more crawling under the duvet.
    Saturday - Thursday - No running. Back to my over-cautious self.

    Friday 25th March - 2.6 - feeling fine again
    Saturday 26th - 4.6
    Sunday 27th - 3.6
    Monday 28th - 4.5
    Tuesday 29th - 6.2 incl. 9*1min. I decided to re-establish my resting heart rate in the morning as I hadn't been monitoring it. It was a little higher than I expected at 39 but I put this down to the fitness that I've lost over the last few weeks. The aim was to run the 1 min segments at 5k pace effort and looking at the watch afterwards they came in at:
    6:17
    6:14
    6:17
    6:14
    6:36 (don't know what happened here)
    6:21
    6:12
    6:00
    5:56

    The last two were a bit quicker because I stopped trying to run quickly and instead tried to focus on good form. Overall the session felt a bit strange. I was quite uncoordinated but I just put it down to the lack of fast running.

    Wednesday 30th March - sick again - getting a bit annoyed with this but I started getting a high temperature again and various other signs of infection. I'm hoping that I've nipped it in the bud though and I'll be able to run again tomorrow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,968 ✭✭✭aquinn


    Clearlier wrote: »

    Wednesday 30th March - sick again - getting a bit annoyed with this but I started getting a high temperature again and various other signs of infection. I'm hoping that I've nipped it in the bud though and I'll be able to run again tomorrow.

    I'm thinking maybe, maybe, one days rest isn't enough. If you've a high temperature today then a few days rest will be of more benefit and have you back on the road for longer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭Clearlier


    aquinn wrote: »
    I'm thinking maybe, maybe, one days rest isn't enough. If you've a high temperature today then a few days rest will be of more benefit and have you back on the road for longer.

    Thanks A, you're right and I will be cautious. I wasn't clear about it but the temperature actually happened last night. I was achey this morning but no temperature. If I have any symptoms tomorrow and/or my resting heart rate isn't a bit lower I'll give it another day or more if necessary. If I do run it'll be a short easy one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭Clearlier


    Nearly 4 weeks since my last update :(

    On reflecting on my last post and aquinn's timely comment added to a pretty high resting heart rate I decided to take a step back. For all that I didn't think that I should have been run down I clearly was. I have a few theories as to why but I'll not bore you with them.

    As sometimes happens the lack of running lead to a general stiffening up of my body and an old rugby injury flared up again which leads to all kinds of loss of spinal mobility. The first physio that I saw was a total waste of space but the second guy really knows his stuff (used to play football with John Aldridge at Tranmere) and really got to work on it yesterday.

    There's still a lot of work to do but I felt miles better this morning and did my first run in about a month. 1.4 miles at about 7:30 pace - it's a start!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭Clearlier


    Fortunately another long gap between updates is not this time a reflection of nothing but bad news. I picked up a chest cold immediately after my last update which put me out for a week and have been rebuilding since.

    On my first day back I set out to do just 20 minutes. A couple of minutes into the run I stepped over a bumble bee that appeared to be walking across the trail and was reminded of the myth that bees shouldn't be able to fly. I considered it apt as I didn't feel like I should be able to run. But running I was and my body has started to loosen out as I've gotten out regularly and started to lengthen my runs. Weekly trips to the heavy fingered physio and the loss of a couple of kgs of the weight that I gained during my period of inactivity have helped too.

    I'm on a 2-1/2-2 schedule at the moment in an attempt to recover some of my fitness. The two runs that I've done with a HRM have me needing about 1150 heart beats per mile which is about 60 higher than when I ran the 10 mile race which was in turn about 40 higher than what I was hitting before I fell ill. So I've lost about 100 beats per mile which put me back more or less where I was at the start of the year.

    On the plus side it should come back to me more quickly than it took to gain it hence my schedule at the moment which aims to do successive longer runs followed by a very easy day or two depending upon how well I recover. I did 70 mins today and plan to do 90 tomorrow, then 80/100 and next week I'll probably slip into a more varied plan that I had hoped to start back in March.

    Overall I'm a little disappointed at just how much my fitness dipped but given that I did very little running for the best part of two months I shouldn't be terribly surprised.

    The week before last I ran 14.7 miles, last week I ran 35 miles and today I ran 8 miles. If things progress as they usually have done in the past I'll see a small improvement after about 3 weeks and a bigger one after about 6. By that stage I hope to more closely resemble a wasp than the bumble bee I felt like a couple of weeks ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭Clearlier


    so i did the 70/90 then 2 easy days and 80/100 over the weekend. I had planned to do a little tempo/marathon pace in the 100 but was struggling to get going until a bunch of teenagers passed me in the opposite direction and almost immediately turned around. I upped the pace to try and keep ahead of them for a while. They were going a lot faster (6:15's I'd guess for the first guy) but were stopping so I did a bit of leapfrogging. End result was about 3 miles at about 7:20 pace albeit that the pace varied from about 6:40 to 8:40. Job done though as I'd got a little bit of faster running in. I ended up with 44.2 miles for the week.

    This week so far there was an easy run yesterday of about 25 mins and a small session today of 5*2 mins with 3 mins rest. Pace was a bit quick for the first one at 6:11 but I settled down and the rest were all coming in at a more appropriate 6:40 moving down to 6:30. The warm up and down plus a few strides and drills brought the total to 5.7 miles for the day. I felt a bit awkward but I expect that the paces will get a bit easier as I complete a couple more of these sessions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭Clearlier


    Well overdue an update again :o

    25th May was 6 miles in a bit less than 50 mins that included a bit of unplanned marathon pace as I experimented with a shorter stride.
    26th May was a more sedate 5.5 miles also in 50 mins
    27th May was my first hill session. These were very short hill sprints. I warmed up for a couple of miles out to a reasonably steep hill. A busy road which wasn't ideal but it worked. I ran the first one using my watch and from then on just ran from one point to where I ended the first one. It was quite a lot of fun to run fast uphill but I was a bit surprised to find that I had used up all of my fast twitch energy by the time of the last one as I could feel the muscles just not recruiting properly.
    28th May - 29 min recovery run
    29th May - 11.1 miles in 98 and a half minutes. 50 mins out and a bit quicker back

    39.6 miles for the week which with the addition of the two sessions for the week was exactly where I wanted it.

    Week beginning 30th May
    Monday - 28 min recovery run
    Tuesday - 5* 3 mins with first one too fast again (6:11, 6:39, 6:42, 6:31, 6:33)
    Wednesday - I ended up doing a hilly marathon pace effort type run today as my time was limited. 6 miles
    Thursday - Easy 6.4 miles
    Friday - Long hills - 8*30 seconds. I thought that I had cut this one short but looking at my garmin shows me I didn't so I must have miscounted. A really enjoyable session but my legs were feeling it towards the end.
    Saturday - easy 30 mins
    Sunday - 12 miles

    Current week
    Monday - recovery 20 mins. Legs were beginning to feel the accumulated fatigue
    Tuesday - 4* 4mins (6:33, 6:28, 6:37, 6:34). I wanted to try and make sure that the first rep wasn't too hard but I may have overdone it and I ended up with a session that's fine but a bit short of what I think that I should be hitting
    Wednesday - Ran an unplanned race today but the report will have to wait for tomorrow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭Clearlier


    So, shortly after my attempt at a speed session on Tuesday I logged onto the computer and discovered that there was a 5 mile road race taking place the following day a few miles down the road from me. Even if it was unplanned and the day after a speed session I felt that it would give me a reasonable marker as to where I am fitness wise.

    I arrived in plenty of time did a lunge matrix, myrtl and about a mile of jogging/striding to warm up. A bit short but I was conscious of not overdoing it given that I was still a little tired from the day before.

    The start was a bit funny. I lined up 4 or 5 rows back and there were a good few wondering when it was going to start when without warning somebody said in a none too loud voice "Ready" and simultaneously fired the starting gun. Took off at what felt like a reasonable pace but let plenty stream past me. A few hundred metres in I glanced at my Garmin which was showing 5:33 pace. I just assumed that it was off because it felt very comfortable but I eased off a little anyway, glanced again a minute later and it was saying 5:40 so decided to back off even if I was feeling grand and after about a half mile it had settled down to 6:12 pace. The first mile was a short loop and the easiest mile and it came in at 6:11.

    The rest of the race was over 3 longer loops and included a surprisingly steep hill. Surprising because it just didn't look steep but my pace and that of everyone around me slowed noticeably. I was aware here that I had gone out too fast and was feeling the burn so trying to manage that whilst maintaining a decent pace. Mile 2 came in at 6:46.

    I wasn't too worried at this stage as I felt that a PB (33:01) was still a posibility. The mile 3 marker came in at 2.91 on my garmin and here I made the classic error of assuming that my garmin was measuring the course short (as it often does) and that I was actually ahead of where the Garmin was telling me. On my garmin this came in at 6:40.

    I started getting a stitch at this point. The combination of that and the mile 3 marker lead me to slow down a little and do lots of belly breathing. The hill was just at the start of mile 4 and a glance at my watch showed 8:17 which illustrates it's impact. I picked up the pace on the downhill but this was the slowest mile of my race at 6:58.

    The mile 4 marker came in much closer to my garmin than mile 3 had which made me a bit concerned that I wasn't in fact ahead of where my garmin thought. The stitch had gone though and I worked hard up the hill and was starting to pass people. I focused on short strides and maintaining form. About a half mile from the finish I realised that the course needed to be short on my garmin if I was going to get a PB. I threw the kitchen sink at it but in the end I measured the course at 5.04 miles. The 5th mile was 6:34 with the .04 coming in at 4:45 pace as I passed people all the way down the finishing straight.

    Official times haven't been published yet and the actual finish line wasn't entirely obvious but I stopped the clock at 33:21 which left me 20 seconds off my PB. My initial reaction was one of disappointment firstly because I was so close to my PB and secondly because I had made that error with the mile 3 marker but on reflection given that it was the day after a session and it was pretty warm I'm reasonably happy with it. It suggests that I'm almost back at the level of fitness that I had before I fell ill and if I can keep training away there's another 5 mile race in Liverpool in the middle of July which I should be able to PB at. It's also telling me that my speed sessions are a touch slow but not that far off where they should be.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭Clearlier


    So I felt fine if a little tired after the race. I let the following day get away from me though and ended up as a day off.
    Friday was 3 easy
    Saturday was 5 easy.
    Sunday I started to realise that a hip niggle was beginning to get to me. I'd had it for a week or 10 days at that stage following a slightly over aggressive stretching session and it was typically bothersome for the first mile or so and then would settle down but it started annoying me just walking around the house.

    I took the Sunday and the Monday off trying to work out what was causing it. Experimenting going up and down stairs I started to realise that I wasn't using my glutes and was overstriding on my right side again.
    Tuesday - 5 niggle free miles on a new route put the spring back in my step.
    Wednesday - 6 easy
    Thursday - 6.8 easy
    Friday - 2.7 incl. 6 hill sprints. A double sports day at school limited my time for this and I only took 2 instead of the recommended 4 minutes rest between reps. Reasonable effort nonetheless.
    Saturday - My wife is away in Galway at the moment but we were going to my in-laws uncle's 95th birthday party and the in-laws kindly suggested that I head over early and they'd look after the boys while I went for a run :). 5.2 miles in 45 mins.

    So, last week ended up at just 21.3 miles but my hip is 90% ok now so I'm hopeful that I've managed to avoid any serious problems and I'm already at 26.2 for this week. Back into the 40's next week and continuing with 2 sessions a week is the plan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭Clearlier


    It seems like the gaps between my updates are getting longer. It's not intentional, I just don't plan updates so when I'm busy this gets the heave ho. Anyway, training continues on. I had planned to do a 5 mile race next Wednesday but it turns out that it's now closed to entries so I feel like a bit of an idiot for not entering. I'll try to find a 10k race over the next couple of weeks instead.

    Sunday 19th June - 5.9 miles in 48:47 to make 32.2 miles for the week

    Monday 20th June - 3.3 miles in 29:07
    Tuesday 21st June - 6.9 miles in 54:06 incl. 5*4mins with the first 4 @6:30 pace and the last @ 6:00 pace
    Wednesday 22nd June - 6.8 in 59:13
    Thursday 23rd June - 7.9 in 74:22. Met up with one of the other Dad's for this who showed me his regular (pretty hilly) route around the town. I was surprised at how fast he went but I think that he might have been showing off a little as when I looked him up on Strava later I saw he had 4 segment PB's for the run ;). Nice to run with someone even if the narrowness of the path meant that I was running behind him most of the time
    Friday 24th June - 3.1 in 28:03. Proper recovery run after the hills of yesterday.
    Saturday 25th June - 5 miles in 43:07
    Sunday 26th June - 13 miles in 1:46:37 - actually a touch further as I forgot to switch the GPS on. I did this out and back on the promenade which is nice but exposed and is hard work running back into which is always a stiff breeze (at least so far).
    46.4 miles for the week

    Further update(s) to follow!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭Clearlier


    Playing catch up here:

    Monday 27th June - 3.1 @ 8:37
    Tuesday 28th June - 8.3 incl. 4*5mins 6:24, 6:30. 6:41, 6:40. Can't really remember why I was that slow.
    Wednesday 29th June - 7 @ 8:34
    Thursday 30th June - Unscheduled rest day. Can't quite remember what happened here but it probably had something to do with being my birthday.
    Friday 1st July - 10 @ 7:39 - clearly benefiting from the rest day (it was either that or the rare piece of cake I had the day before:D)
    Saturday 2nd July - 4.4 @ 8:42 - back to easy pace!
    Sunday 3rd July - 15 @ 7:58 - slowly upping the distance of my long run.

    47.9 miles for the week


    Monday 4th July - 3 @ 9:39 - proper recovery pace!
    Tuesday 5th July - track day - there was a teachers strike which meant that I had my eldest for the day so I took him out to the nearest track. He wanted to join me which was great. His choice of footwear less so as he offered up wellies instead of school shoes (turned out he had left his runners in school). He had fun though as I did 6*200 mostly in or around 37 seconds and he started off from where the steeplechase was and tried to stay ahead of me.
    Wednesday 6th July 5.2 @ 9:40 - back to recovery pace as my body recovered from the unaccustomed speed work of the previous day.
    Thursday 7th July - Another unplanned rest day as my plans to join a local running group for a few miles fell apart at the last minute.
    Friday 8th July - 11 @ 8:00
    Saturday 9th July - 3.2 @ 9:21
    Sunday 10th July - 5 @ 8:38 to round out an easier week

    30.8 miles for the week


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭Clearlier


    Monday 11th July - 5 @ 8:24
    Tuesday 12th July - 8.5 incl. 3 * 2 miles @ 6:31, 6:59 and 7:03 pace. 1st was with the wind, last was into it. The second rep was just poor!
    Wednesday 13th July - 3.5 @ 8:53
    Thursday 14th July - 11.6 @ 8:12. Turned up to a local running group organised by a company that organises races locally. They had all done a race series covering 52 miles in 6 days the previous week so were taking it short and easy which wasn't what I was looking for. Friendly bunch though and I'll be along again. I tacked on a few miles at the end incl. what felt like but couldn't really be, a minor bonk.
    Friday 15th July - 3.4 @ 8:45
    Saturday 16th July - 2.8 @ 8:36. Life got in the way here as I had intended to do a few more
    Sunday 17th July 17 @ 8:00. Hot day with the last 7 @ 7:40 pace as I got the finger out and worked hard to bring the average pace down to 8mm.

    52.2 miles for the week which is in or about as much as I've ever run in a week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,415 ✭✭✭Singer


    Clearlier wrote: »
    Sunday 17th July 17 @ 8:00. Hot day with the last 7 @ 7:40 pace as I got the finger out and worked hard to bring the average pace down to 8mm.

    52.2 miles for the week which is in or about as much as I've ever run in a week.

    Nice - what are you training for? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭Clearlier


    Singer wrote: »
    Nice - what are you training for? :)

    More training :D

    I jest a little but the first half of this year has been about building my capacity to train. When I looked back at the last few years I realised that I had gotten into a pattern of training reasonably hard to get back to the level I was at previously, getting injured, training hard to get back to the level I was at previously, getting injured.....

    I'm pretty sure that I've never actually run 1,000 miles in a calendar year before which was a surprising insight so this year has been about building consistency and the ability to train at a higher level.

    Not having a race to focus on has also given me the opportunity to learn a bit more about what I need. The biggest insight here is that I actually need to do some form of speedwork at least once a fortnight or my stride starts getting very messy very quickly.

    That said, I have got DCM in mind which is one of the reasons I've been upping the longer runs over the past few weeks. If come the 8th of August I feel that I can handle the 12 week P&D 55-70 plan with a few minor modifications I'll give it a whirl. The moment it starts feeling like I'm pushing myself towards injury I'll pull back though so I don't give myself more than a 50/50 chance of making it there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭Clearlier


    Didn't get everything that I wanted but it was a solid enough week overall

    Monday 18th July - 3.1 @ 9:29. Definitely feeling the previous days run.
    Tuesday 19th July - 8.0 @ 8:33. Funny to think that it was only 8 days ago that the thermometer was hitting 30C. Stupidly I went out at midday. I thought I'd manage 8 miles ok as I was well hydrated but the heart rate went north and the pace went south on the way back. No harm done but it wasn't very clever.
    Wednesday 20th July - 5.4 @ 8:16
    Thursday 21st July - 17.9 @ 8:23 barely tells the half of it. I was meeting up with the local running group only to find that they had arranged to cover the route of a race that they had run a couple of weeks before during a race series that covered 52 miles in 6 days because someone who had done all the other races had missed this one because of traffic. So it was 2.5 miles out to the usual meeting place, hang around for 10 mins then about 4 easy to the start point of the race where we hung around for about 20 minutes then the race itself which was about 6 miles on sand and up hills. It wasn't actually a race but one of the lads took off like it was so I followed him and another guy joined us and we had a nice run at a decent effort punctuated with the odd attempt by the one guy who had run the route before to remember the way. We then hung around for about half an hour for the rest of the group to finish (probably about 35-40 people) and knowing that I would have limited time available on the Sunday I decided to throw in an extra couple of miles to make my long run for the week. By this stage though it was 9 hours since I had eaten and all that I had eaten that day was a bowl of soup so not being fat adapted Enduro style I bonked a bit. I even followed an ice cream sign at one stage in the forlorn hope of finding a shop. I did find the shop but it had been shut for over 4 hours at that stage!

    Friday 22nd July - 2.5 @ 9:42 (see yesterdays run)
    Saturday 23rd July - 4.6 @ 8:52 - starting to feel better
    Sunday 24th July - 10 @ 7:23 - time was tight and I started off a little too quick but still a decent effort overall. It felt like I was running with decent form for a fair part of the run with everything in line and my pelvis in a more neutral position than normal.

    51.7 miles for the week


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭Clearlier


    Monday 25th July - 3.4 @ 8:34
    Tuesday 26th July - 4.7 @ 8:21
    Wednesday 27th July - 5.2 incl. 6 * 3 mins @ 10k pace. The goal here was to a relatively light session and see if I felt like chasing after sub-40 at a 10k race I'm doing on Sunday. The wind was at my back on the way out and I didn't kill myself to get 3:55, 3:57 and 3:59. The way back was much harder work with the first one being into a strong wind as well as undulating for 4:09 then 3:57 and 3:57. I could certainly have done a couple more but I don't know about 13 of them without a break. I think that I'll probably take along my HRM and use it to make me honest in my effort and see where I end up. I suspect a P.B. but sub 40 might require a perfect race. We'll see.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭Clearlier


    Thursday 28th July - 11.4 @ 7:56. Went out with the local running group again. The group split in 2 with one planning 8 easy and the other 6 very easy. I went with the group for 8 but of course easy isn't really in the vocabulary of one of the guys so we were doing 7:20 pace until I engaged him in conversation which brought it down to about 7:40 pace. A bit of a nothing run overall, not fast enough to be marathon pace but not slow enough to be easy.
    Friday - Off. Focused on filling out a job application instead
    Saturday - 4.3 @ 9:12 incl. a few strides and a dog who insisted on rolling in fox poo - twice!
    Sunday 9.61 incl. 10k race - Preparation for this one was pretty good. I hadn't done a session the day before. It was coming at the end of an easy week so I was relatively tapered. I would have liked it if I could have gone to the physio to loosen out my back but he's on holidays so I settled for the foam roller instead.

    Arrived in plenty of time and was clearly keyed up as I found myself running 7:20 pace during my warm up. I did a cut down version of Myrtl and some strides and was ready to go. I had looked at previous results from this race and worked out that there weren't that many getting around in 40 mins or less with just 14 under that time last year so I positioned myself a half dozen rows or so from the front. The guy beside me was looking for 36/37 mins so I reckoned I was far enough forward.

    I'm going to be a little bit confusing here because I've set my watch to show me pace in mins per km but the actual split are every mile.

    The race is billed as a PB course although surprisingly it's very slightly net uphill as we started a bit behind the finish line which was up a hill. No big deal but a bit surprising. I was focused on being disciplined at the start and let everyone stream by. I glanced at my watch after a hundred metres or so to see 4:12 pace so picked it up a little, a little too enthusiastically though as a couple of hundred metres later it was showing 3:37 pace. I settled down to 3:55 pace which to my surprise felt comfortable enough.
    Mile 1 came in at 3:57 pace and 146 bpm. 146 suggests that I could have pushed a little harder
    More of the same for mile 2 as it came in at 3:54 pace and 158 bpm. I was beginning to think that I must be in better shape than I thought as while I was working I wasn't over the edge. After the initial settling down in mile 1 I slowly started passing people from here on in with only one person passing me and staying ahead of me for the whole race.
    It started to get tougher towards the end of mile 3 (4:01 and 160bpm) that the wind and the road were starting to pick up. I latched on to the back of someone who went past me here and stuck to the back of him for as long as I could - now I was in proper 10k effort territory.
    Mile 4 wasn't any better at 4:07 and 161bpm. I had lost the buffer I had built up over the first couple of miles and needed to get back on pace.
    So mile 5 was the hilliest. 4:27 and 161bpm put paid to any thoughts of sub-40 as the focused moved to securing a PB (41:01).
    I gradually flattened out over mile 6 but at 4:09 and 162bpm I was going to have to finish well for a PB.
    I pushed as hard as I could over the last quarter mile. The uphill that I barely noticed at the start was having a somewhat bigger impact this time. There was a big clock on the finish line counting up inexorably towards 41:00 as I focused on keeping my arms moving and sprinting as hard as I could.
    I crossed the line, pressed stop on my watch, dry heaved and checked my watch. 40:59 which was rounded down to 40:56 on chip timing with 41:01 gun time. Only just a PB but on a much tougher course than my previous PB which had been set in perfect conditions so job done even if I'm a little disappointed that I wasn't a bit closer to going sub-40 this time.

    I ran a couple of miles to cool down and finish with 39.3 for the week.

    I'm off to Paris with the family for the next few days so I'm not sure how much running will get done. Plenty of walking is on the agenda though including the 704 steps to the 2nd floor of the Eiffel tower.

    Edit to add that this years race was nothing like last years. I would have finished 22nd last year. This year I was in 60th.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭Clearlier


    I'm looking for physio recommendations (here or PM whichever your prefer) ideally not too far from Bray, someone who is very hands on and good at mobilising the spinal area.

    Paris was great but the bed wasn't and my spine/neck has locked up quite a bit. The physio I normally use is on holiday and I'm in Bray from Wednesday. I'll probably but not definitely have access to a car.


    If anyone fancies letting me join them for a run while I'm over let me know. I'll be following a P&D plan which is as follows:

    Wed: 11 MLR
    Thu: 5 recovery
    Fri: 11 MLR
    Sat: 5 recovery
    Sun: 15 w 8 @ m-pace (no idea where I'll do this)
    Mon: Off though I'll probably do a short recovery run
    Tue: 9 GA + 10 strides.

    Very rough paces for flat routes (I'm considerably slower on hills) are
    9 - 9:30 for recovery runs
    8 - 8:30 for MLR/GA
    7 - 7:15 m-pace


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭Clearlier


    Well overdue a bit of a catchup here.

    My last entry finished up with the 10k race that I had ran and I remember thinking the next day that if I had to go and run 17 miles (ala P&D) I'd make a much better fist of it than I would have been able to when I ran my previous PB - I'm really not sure that I could have managed 17 though. Instead I ran 3.3.

    Tuesday - Friday (2nd to 5th August) - I was in Paris with the family so running took a backseat as we toured the boulevards of Paris and climbed up the 704 steps to the 2nd floor of the Eiffel tower (as well as down the 50 or so to the sewers which the boys wanted to see..., until they got in and realised it stank!).

    We got a Paris pass, a little pricey maybe but we made full use of it and went to a few places such as the chocolate museum where we wouldn't have gone otherwise.

    As is my custom I relaxed my usual dietary rules on holidays and indulged in the pain au chocolat's as well as a few other things resulting in a reading of 84.5 kgs when I got back :o.

    I did run every day but 3, 3.1, 3 and 5.2 was just about keeping me ticking over a bit. I did 5.5 and 13.1 at the weekend to give me 36.2 for the week.

    Week 2 of August - Week 1 of marathon training - I'm following P&D's 12 week 55-70 plan with a few modifications (some planned some not). The main one is that I'm doing recovery runs as recovery runs which means that I'm not fussed if I only do 2 or 3 miles instead of the prescribed 5.

    Mondays are a rest day on this plan although I'm signing up for a hot yoga class to try and retrieve a little bit of flexibility.

    Tuesday - Plan was 8 + strides. I did the 8 @ 8:17 but had to abandon the strides. Flew back to Bray with the family to see my parents.
    Wednesday - 10.5 @ 8:08 - I remember Krusty posting a few routes a long time ago so decided to explore one of these out the back of Shankill. Good for me because it was a little lumpy and almost all of my running recently has been on pancake flat routes
    Thursday - 2.9 recovery @ 8:49
    Friday - 12.5 @ 8:37 - Over the cliff to Greystones and back on the roads. The cliff walk remains my favourite place to run.
    Saturday - 3 recovery
    Sunday - 14.9 supposedly with 8 @ marathon pace but it was pretty lumpy and a lot downhill so I just went for a decent effort. On reflection I probably could have pushed a little harder. This was the run that saw me clear 1,000 miles for the year.

    Total: 51.9 miles for the week


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭Clearlier


    If I was overdue an update the last time I'm not sure how you would describe it now :o. I haven't had any injuries but I noticed that for various (mostly valid) reasons I wasn't getting in the midweek back to back MLR's that P&D prescribes. I also wasn't generally happy about the direction that my training was going in. In particular my attempts at marathon pace and tempo's were pretty hopeless.

    After grappling with the problem for a few days I decided that the best way for me to approach it was to work from the bottom up so I tore up my P&D schedule and started making it up by myself. I don't necessarily recommend this approach - I'm running a serious risk of just blowing up in Dublin but I'm happy to take it because I wouldn't have been happy to run 3:20'ish which is what I think that I was heading for.

    So I've inserted a session once a week which started at quarter miles and gets progressively longer. In an ideal world I'll get a MLR including a few marathon pace miles in as well as a long run. I had planned alternating a long run with back to backs at the weekend but my first effort reminded me that they don't work for me so back to the long runs again.

    15 - 21 August

    I took Monday off because that's what P&D said - in retrospect I should have continued running every day. Tuesday was my first mix up with the schedule. I was still in Bray at that stage and convinced myself that I had to do 9 miles with strides so I did about 8.5 with a couple of strides (should have done more) but in reality this should have been the first of my back to back MLR's. Wednesday - 12@7:58. Thursday - 2.7 tortoise like. Friday was my first attempt at tempo - didn't work out at all averaging about 7:10 for the tempo miles - 8.7 @ 7:36. Saturday was 3 recovery and Sunday was 17 @ 8:13 along the old railway path. 52.3 miles for that week and I was happy enough even if the tempo hadn't worked out and I had made a mistake on the back to back MLR's.

    22nd - 28th August

    Monday I took off again as per the schedule. On Tuesday I was back in Bray to bring the boys back to Liverpool and took the time to go on the cliff walk again - I remember thinking as I ran along that this was good for the soul. It's just such a beautiful place to run - 9@8:27. Wednesday and Thursday had to be written off for family reasons - can't remember exactly why - Thursday might have been the day we brought the boys to Alton Towers. Friday - 12.4@8:17. Saturday 3.38 recovery. Sunday was supposed to include some marathon pace miles but after a reasonable start I just never got into a groove and drifted well off the pace - 17@7:50 was the end result.
    42.4 miles for the week and I was starting to get worried about my ability to hit marathon and tempo paces.

    29th August - 4th September

    Monday - 2.2 recovery - tentative steps towards a change as I decide to aim to run every day again. Tuesday - 11.5 hilly miles where I got lost at least twice exploring the local area. One path ended in a field with barbed wire preventing people from climbing over the gate - fortunately there was enough space to go underneath it. Wednesday off - can't remember why. Thursday 13.8 @ 8:50 - more exploring as I found the wirral circular path and found myself running past the Typhoo factory and an industrial bakery from which there were some pretty enticing smells wafting over. Friday off again. Saturday 6.2 easy and Sunday saw my first 20 of the year @ 8:48 pace. It brought me exactly to a preserved railway station which I took a few minutes to look around. They've left the booking office more or less as it was 60 years ago when it shut to passengers.
    53.8 miles for the week - time for a new plan.

    5th to 11th September

    Monday off. Tuesday - First session. I really didn't know how this one was going to go. I thought about 24*quarter mile - 90s recovery. Ended up with 19 as my legs let me know that they had had enough. Went off way too fast for the first one ending up at 76 seconds. Settled down a bit afterwards - there was a strong wind blowing which meant that I was cruising the ones with the wind and working a bit harder into the wind. No prizes for guessing which ones were which! 76, 85, 86, 87, 91, 85, 94, 85, 91, 86, 95, 83, 91, 87, 85, 94, 91, 84, 101. I was happy with the session overall averaging about 88.5 seconds a quarter. Wednesday - 2.3 recovery, Thursday was supposed to be a few miles at marathon pace but the legs weren't ready so I just ran steady instead - 10.3 @ 8:08. Friday 4.6 easy. Saturday and Sunday was an attempt at back to back 2 hour runs as I think that they're excellent for developing endurance - not for me though as I struggled badly on the 2nd one. 14 @ 8:12 and 13 @ 9:19.
    55.8 miles for the week with one good session.

    12 - 18 September

    I needed one easyish week between now and the taper and with a half marathon already entered for the end of the week I decided to make it this week and do a mini-taper.

    Monday - 2.3 easy. Tuesday - 8 * half miles aiming for 3:00 per interval. I found myself a relatively sheltered spot for this one down by a working trainline. Happy with these as they came in at: 2:55 (took off too quickly again but settled down earlier), 2:51, 2:59, 2:59, 3:02, 2:58, 3:02, 3:03 for an average of 2:59. The legs were getting tired but I think that I could have done another 2 if I had needed to. Wednesday - 3.2 recovery, Thursday 13.9 @ 8:30. Friday 4.2 easy. Saturday off. Sunday - race.

    English half marathon

    I had entered this race a few weeks previously when I realised that I was struggling with marathon pace with a view to doing the 10@marathon pace in the P&D schedule. Although I had abandoned the schedule it seemed like a good plan to stick with. I had 1:35 in mind as a time that I would be happy with with 1:32/33 as something I'd get on a good day.

    Conditions were near perfect. The course was reasonably flat with a profile that saw us climb 200ft over the first 7 or 8 miles. I arrived in plenty of time which was helpful as I hadn't a clue where to go. My plan to go to the car park specified in the race instructions had to be abandoned as the roads were cordoned off but after a little meandering I saw another car park on a side street so tucked in behind them. I got changed and joined a couple of others with the intention of tacking on to them to find my way to the start (never been in Warrington before) only to find that they too were relying on google maps. After a couple of false starts we found our way and the setup was perfect so I dumped my bag, did a short warm up and was able to hop in near the front of the race. I had decided to run the race to heart rate and was relieved to discover that the good scrub I had given my HRM strap the night before had gotten rid of the outlandish readings I had been seeing. The effects of the mini-taper kicked in as the first slightly downhill mile came in 6:52 (132). Miles of 7:10 (146) and 7:30 (147) followed as I finished the 3 steady miles (target of 145 HR) and moved into the marathon pace section. I had targeted 155 as a heart rate that was reasonable for marathon pace but when I went towards it I felt like I would have had to work a little harder than I wanted to so let it stay a little lower. Miles 4 - 8 came in at: 6:59 (154), 7:17 (151), 6:50 (151), 7:02 (152) & 6:45 (151) with the 8th mile being net downhill. I kept myself occupied by counting the number of people I passed (about 60 in total) and was amused by a guy playing Rocky music who seemed to decide to race me, surging as I went past him a couple of times. Garmin says that mile 9 included 111 ft. of downhill and it showed as that came in at 6:26 (150). At this stage I realised that I was working a little harder than I should be for marathon pace and considered upping the pace to finish sub 1:30 but sense prevailed although my HRM had had enough and reverted to outlandish readings again. Miles 10 (6:45) & 11 (6:53) ticked by before we went through the Warrington Wolves stadium which confused the garmin which recorded miles 12 and 13 as 7:03 and 7:14 respectively. I crossed the line with a chip time of 1:30:56 and a big smile. I ran a few miles to warm down and headed home.

    On reflection I learned a few things from the race. 155 HR is too ambitious for me right now for a marathon. I'll probably head out at 150 maximum for the first half at least and I'll plan to ease into that effort level. Condition permitting 3:10 seems a possibility. I have to work on strengthening my hips. They were what did for me the last time I ran a marathon 5 and a half years ago and although they held up for the half I don't think that I would have been able to do a full marathon without them impacting my ability to run.

    48.3 miles for the week and the priceless knowledge that if all goes well a decent PB (currently 3:24 from DCM 2010) is on the cards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭Clearlier


    September 19th - 25th

    Monday - 3@10:02. Copped on after about a half mile of easy running and turned it into a proper recovery run. Just about achieved my goal of going slower than 10 min miles.
    Tuesday - 4.7 easy
    Wednesday - 8 easy
    Thursday - I pushed the session out a day to allow for recovery from the half. I gave it a reasonable go but in truth I was off the pace and effort levels I expect. I did this with one of the school Dad's and we both set off like idiots at 5 min mile pace. The wind picked up and up as the session went on and we finished into what felt like a gale force wind (but in reality was probably a 10mph breeze). The session was 5*1 mile and the splits were (no prizes for guessing which ones went into the wind!) 6:03, 6:08, 6:54, 5:59, 7:00. I was disappointed but realistically it wasn't a bad session.
    Friday and Saturday were two easy days of 5.4 and 3.1
    Sunday was my 2nd 20 miler of this campaign. I ran the same route as the first one out along the old railway track with a view to running it a bit harder this time. Job done as I averaged 8:28 compared to 8:48 for the 20 miles although it was hard work towards the end. I'll be moving these on to the seafront from now on which risks wind but the surface is much more like Dublin.

    Debating which shoe to wear for Dublin. I bought some Mizuno wave legend 4's a few weeks ago and they're fine but subsequently bought a pair of Mizuno sparks with a view to having a cheap pair for recovery runs and it turns out that they suit pretty well. There's a bit less forefoot cushioning than the Legend which is what is giving me doubts. I'll wear them on a couple more long runs to see if I can handle them. They're also 25 grams lighter (yes, I weighed them :)) and cost me only £30.

    55.2 miles for the week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭Clearlier


    Struggling a bit I'm afraid.

    Last week was going well until I possibly pushed too hard trying to get 3*2 miles on Wednesday and 15 on Friday. I was fine for the first half but my right hip started to get a bit uncomfortable and it was a bit of a struggle to get to the end. I didn't think an awful lot of it but when it hadn't gone by the time I woke up the next morning I was beginning to get concerned. I took Saturday off, then Sunday off. On Monday I tried 3 but could feel it most of the time.

    A trip to the physio on Monday evening hesitantly diagnosed piriformis problems with instructions to come back if necessary. I did all the stretches (I clearly had a pretty tight piriforms but not quite the excruciating pain that others report when using a cricket ball on it) and then ran an easy 5 on Tuesday but it was clear that a tight piriformis wasn't the source of the discomfort that I have so I went back again on Wednesday.

    I'm now told that it's likely to be bursitis trochanterica but to be honest I'm having some doubts. I could have been a bit more committed to some of the exercises beforehand but all of what I have been given to combat it is stuff that I had already been doing to a greater or lesser extent. Also, apparently it's basically inflammation of bursa or little sacs of synovial fluid and anti-inflammatories should help. The area doesn't feel in the slightest bit inflamed and anti-inflammatories have about as much impact as smarties would. OTOH, my right hip/leg is much less co-ordinated than my left but it's something that I've been working on all year long and I think that it's better than it has been for a long time.

    It's a bit of a battle to get to the start line now. As soon as I can get the discomfort to go I'll start running again and hopefully build it up to double figures. I'll only run Dublin if I can start free of discomfort. 26.2 miles is a long way to go on a dodgy hip!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭Clearlier


    I tried it out for about 1.5 on Saturday but that didn't work out.

    I was back to the physio again on Monday this time in my running gear and had him take a look at me running on his treadmill. He was literally wincing as he watched me and to be honest I could tell why too. It was probably exacerbated by the lack of a warmup but I was really slapping the ground with my right foot. There was little to no control about how I put my foot down. What I had said about my right leg co-ordination having improved - I was totally deluded.

    It's as bad as it has ever been and that's why I'm having the problems with my right hip. I'm not really absorbing any of the shock in my upper body when landing on my right foot which is grossly overloading everything further down. I've had knee and posterior tibialis niggles but managed through them - this was just the next part of my anatomy in line.

    So, back to doing tons of exercises. The challenge I posed him is to think of ones that I can actually translate into being useful for my running because I'm reasonably good at doing the exercises already. He has given me a couple which I haven't really done before so hopefully they help. I've also dusted off an old one that I made up myself a long time ago which I think is pretty effective but I keep dropping (possibly because it hasn't got the seal of approval of an 'expert'). I'm sure it's out there somewhere already but it involves stepping down very, very slowly with as much control as possible.

    I'm really not sure if I'll run Dublin yet. Obviously time targets are out the window but I'll be in Dublin anyway and I've already entered so if I can make it to the start line pain free and have a reasonable chance of finishing pain free I'll probably toe the line. I tried 1.5 miles again this morning but could feel it pretty much every step of the way. My physio reckoned that I'd see improvements in 7 - 10 days. I hope he's right!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,415 ✭✭✭Singer


    Ah ****e, I missed your previous update. I was wondering where you were on Strava alright. I hope things get better quickly!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,415 ✭✭✭Singer


    Hey, how are things? Are you planning a test run this week?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭Clearlier


    Singer wrote: »
    Hey, how are things? Are you planning a test run this week?



    I did a short jog to and from the gym today. I was also on the treadmill with the physio this morning and I was on and off the treadmill for short bursts while I was at the gym. Probably about 25 mins in total.

    The key seems to be to get my glutes working. Whatever caused it I'm not sure but they've totally switched off and I need to do a couple of exercises and stretches to get them functioning. At the moment I'm only getting about 5 mins before they stop kicking in. The next 10 days is about trying to extend that period of time. I probably need to spend a couple of days in the gym first before I start heading outdoors again.

    Did some long arm pull ups in the gym today - think I'm going to have DOMS!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭Clearlier


    So, the Bulgarian split squat seems to be hitting the mark right at the moment. I was back in the gym today and ran 10/5/5 mins with squats, bridges and other exercises in between. Straight after the squat it's all working well and running is fairly normal. Fatigue seems to be kicking in quite quickly at the moment though. I had planned to do 3*10 mins but modified it to fit in with what my body was telling me. Hopefully I'll be able to improve this very quickly. I give myself about a 60/40 chance of running Dublin right now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭Clearlier


    5/5/10/12mins today plus the realisation that if I up the elevation on the treadmill it'll help with glute recruitment. Also, belly breathing helps!

    The silver lining to the cloud of this injury is that I haven't been overly bothered by the chest cold that I picked up while I was back in Bray last weekend for my parents 40th wedding anniversary. I'm guessing that I picked it on the plane and it has hit my wife badly but (possibly because of my dramatically reduced training load) my body has handled it pretty well so far. It should be well gone by Sunday week and I'm taking the boat over next week so no airplane filtration systems to endure! Still thinking about a hazmat suit though!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭Clearlier


    Was at the gym again on Friday for 4*5mins and a ton of bulgarian split squats, upright rowing, pull ups, back raises, bridges and a few other things.

    Nothing since though as the cold got a lot worse. Luckily I'm nowhere near as bad as my wife who's now off work but colds have a tendency to linger with me and I won't be toeing the line if my chest hasn't cleared. The odds aren't great at the moment but there's a lot of time yet between now and Sunday.


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