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The RTE X File?

  • 30-01-2016 7:00am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭


    RTE 2 transmit the new series of the X files at 9.55 on Wed evenings. If other broadcasters follow this example it would make life difficult for those of us trying to record and watch programmes between 9 and10pm. I do note the repeat is on Fridays at 11 pm, less of a spoiler? Bring on Sky Q, sorry if already discussed


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭ftakeith


    reboot wrote: »
    RTE 2 transmit the new series of the X files at 9.55 on Wed evenings. If other broadcasters follow this example it would make life difficult for those of us trying to record and watch programmes between 9 and10pm. I do note the repeat is on Fridays at 11 pm, less of a spoiler? Bring on Sky Q, sorry if already discussed

    I recorded both episodes on tuesday and wednesday

    your view means nothing for these future non sky Q viewers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,841 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    RTÉ shouldn't show the x files as close as they can to the FOX broadcast to make recording easier for you? I thought I'd seen it all but clearly not.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 12,066 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    I think (and it's kinda hard to decipher the OP, so he may clarify this) the complaint is that the programme isn't starting exactly on the hour and running for exactly an hour. That will happen though, on a PSB whose advertising time is limited and with a US network show that only runs for 42 minutes or so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭FRIENDO


    Well done RTE, an excellent show I also recorded both episode's on the Walker sat box.
    Big XFiles fan.
    Yes I could have waited for Channel 5 and record on freesat serial link, but I suppose as RTE are saying "see it first" or something like that.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 12,066 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    It seems to have been at the price of Gotham losing its place in the schedules, which Channel 5 has (again) got to first.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭FRIENDO


    icdg wrote: »
    It seems to have been at the price of Gotham losing its place in the schedules, which Channel 5 has (again) got to first.
    Add your reply here.
    Ye, I've also recorded the new Gotham Villains on 5 but haven't got around to watching any of it yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭reboot


    ftakeith wrote: »
    I recorded both episodes on tuesday and wednesday

    your view means nothing for these future non sky Q viewers

    My view may have meaning for those of us in some parts of the country who are poorly served by terrestrial broadcasters and cable companies and broadband/mobile suppliers.
    With no terrestrial HD BBC, TV or FM/Dab, internet speed Up To 1:Mbit, and Mob 2 g Outside them property, Satellite is the only reliable source of reception.
    Therefore the ability to record a program, whilst watching another is somewhat important.If this ability is compromised by a broadcaster starting the Files five minutes before the hour, this reduces the record options between 9 and 10 pm.
    I only mention Sky Q in this context, because I believe 4 channels will be capable of recording whilst watching a fifth.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 12,066 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    As I say, it's harder for PSBs to schedule in the way satellite channels do (and the way you seem to want them to) - ie 30 or 60 minute slots, starting on the hour or half hour - because they can't broadcast as many adverts and they have much more live programming that doesn't necessarily adhere to those slots slavishly. To do what you're asking with 6 minutes of advertising an hour RTE would have to run 12 minutes of promos in order to fill up a sixty minute slot, because the X Files only runs for 42 minutes.

    Virgin Media's Horizon box is already capable of recording more than two channels at once.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭FRIENDO


    reboot wrote: »
    ftakeith wrote: »
    I recorded both episodes on tuesday and wednesday

    your view means nothing for these future non sky Q viewers

    My view may have meaning for those of us in some parts of the country who are poorly served by terrestrial broadcasters and cable companies and broadband/mobile suppliers.
    With no terrestrial HD BBC, TV or FM/Dab, internet speed Up To 1:Mbit, and Mob 2 g Outside them property, Satellite is the only reliable source of reception.
    Therefore the ability to record a program, whilst watching another is somewhat important.If this ability is compromised by a broadcaster starting the Files five minutes before the hour, this reduces the record options between 9 and 10 pm.
    I only mention Sky Q in this context, because I believe 4 channels will be capable of recording whilst watching a fifth.
    Add your reply here.

    If you are "poorly served by terrestrial broadcast", you still have the option of quality free to air service with satellite.

    I have Saorsat for the Irish channels with a Walker approved Saorsat box - has 7 day tv guide and recording is easy using an external hard drive.
    With Saorsat you can only record one channel at a time, however with only having 6 Irish stations at the moment this generally is not a problem.

    I also have Freesat for the English channels which can record up to two channels at a time similar to sky+ HD.
    You can get a total of 11HD channels on Freesat and also a number of regional variations in HD.
    Including all your favourite BBC's in HD.
    7 day programme guide. Loads of channels and Easy to record.
    Free - no monthly bills.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭reboot


    FRIENDO wrote: »
    Add your reply here.

    If you are "poorly served by terrestrial broadcast", you still have the option of quality free to air service with satellite.

    I have Saorsat for the Irish channels with a Walker approved Saorsat box - has 7 day tv guide and recording is easy using an external hard drive.
    With Saorsat you can only record one channel at a time, however with only having 6 Irish stations at the moment this generally is not a problem.

    I also have Freesat for the English channels which can record up to two channels at a time similar to sky+ HD.
    You can get a total of 11HD channels on Freesat and also a number of regional variations in HD.
    Including all your favourite BBC's in HD.
    7 day programme guide. Loads of channels and Easy to record.
    Free - no monthly bills.
    Many thanks I agree with all that,some folk do like to watch Sky Atlantic and other Sky programmes, not available elsewhere.I know some people, not accusing anyone , want nothing to do with Sky for good reasons, as Android folk dislike IOS, but sometimes its better to light a candle , than curse the darkness. Think I'm finished here, Thanks again for taking an interest, not that important.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭reboot


    icdg wrote: »
    As I say, it's harder for PSBs to schedule in the way satellite channels do (and the way you seem to want them to) - ie 30 or 60 minute slots, starting on the hour or half hour - because they can't broadcast as many adverts and they have much more live programming that doesn't necessarily adhere to those slots slavishly. To do what you're asking with 6 minutes of advertising an hour RTE would have to run 12 minutes of promos in order to fill up a sixty minute slot, because the X Files only runs for 42 minutes.

    Virgin Media's Horizon box is already capable of recording more than two channels at once.

    Interesting, how do I get Virgin media without cable and broadband,? Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭reboot


    icdg wrote: »
    As I say, it's harder for PSBs to schedule in the way satellite channels do (and the way you seem to want them to) - ie 30 or 60 minute slots, starting on the hour or half hour - because they can't broadcast as many adverts and they have much more live programming that doesn't necessarily adhere to those slots slavishly. To do what you're asking with 6 minutes of advertising an hour RTE would have to run 12 minutes of promos in order to fill up a sixty minute slot, because the X Files only runs for 42 minutes.

    Virgin Media's Horizon box is already capable of recording more than two channels at once.

    Interesting, how do I get Virgin media without cable and broadband,? Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,465 ✭✭✭MOH


    reboot wrote: »
    My view may have meaning for those of us in some parts of the country who are poorly served by terrestrial broadcasters and cable companies and broadband/mobile suppliers.
    With no terrestrial HD BBC, TV or FM/Dab, internet speed Up To 1:Mbit, and Mob 2 g Outside them property, Satellite is the only reliable source of reception.
    Therefore the ability to record a program, whilst watching another is somewhat important.If this ability is compromised by a broadcaster starting the Files five minutes before the hour, this reduces the record options between 9 and 10 pm.
    I only mention Sky Q in this context, because I believe 4 channels will be capable of recording whilst watching a fifth.

    It's better than the season RTE had Lost a day ahead of Sky, and heavily advertised it everywhere "See the new season first. Monday 10pm", up to and including the day it was being broadcast.

    Then they actually scheduled it for 9:55, everyone missed the start.
    But they'd obviously always planned to, the Sky box had the 9:55 start time.


    They're woeful at scheduling anything. The OH used to record Eastenders, it would always run over by about 3 minutes due to them cramming ads in before, after and during but insisting it fit in the same slot as BBC. I've had the same issue with films - remember recording the Third Man starting about 2am, they had a 3-minutes ad break every 20 minutes, and missed the end because it ran over so much.


    Best option, if possible, is just give up on RTE altogether. My TV watching has improved immeasurably since I did.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭reboot


    MOH wrote: »
    It's better than the season RTE had Lost a day ahead of Sky, and heavily advertised it everywhere "See the new season first. Monday 10pm", up to and including the day it was being broadcast.

    Then they actually scheduled it for 9:55, everyone missed the start.
    But they'd obviously always planned to, the Sky box had the 9:55 start time.


    They're woeful at scheduling anything. The OH used to record Eastenders, it would always run over by about 3 minutes due to them cramming ads in before, after and during but insisting it fit in the same slot as BBC. I've had the same issue with films - remember recording the Third Man starting about 2am, they had a 3-minutes ad break every 20 minutes, and missed the end because it ran over so much.


    Best option, if possible, is just give up on RTE altogether. My TV watching has improved immeasurably since I did.
    Sorry for posting twice , site was down. I was around when UTV phisically "cut" 35 km movies to make the ads fit.. We haven't come very far, some picture quality and sound has suffered, but I digress.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭reboot


    Make that 35mm movies, where's the tipex? Friend of mine recently was driving through Clough, in the Mourned and came upon the "Dowmpatrick 4K Cinema" sign. " I didn't think it was that close Charlie" said She.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68 ✭✭okatied


    Virgin Horizon can record 4 shows at once. I had heard bad things about Horizon so was wary when getting it but it's worked like a dream.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    TBH no reason why RTÉ couldn't schedule on the hour even if the programme will only run in a 50 minute slot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,606 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    Elmo wrote: »
    TBH no reason why RTÉ couldn't schedule on the hour even if the programme will only run in a 50 minute slot.

    Problem is they also have a 42 minute US show in the 9pm slot, so its tricky for them to drag this out enough for the next program to start at 10pm.
    (maybe they should use 5 minute T&J cartoons like in the old days!).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Problem is they also have a 42 minute US show in the 9pm slot, so its tricky for them to drag this out enough for the next program to start at 10pm.
    (maybe they should use 5 minute T&J cartoons like in the old days!).

    Or newsfeed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,048 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    I don't understand how the start time makes any difference when recording.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    I don't understand how the start time makes any difference when recording.

    Depends - lets say you have two feeds and your are watching one and recording the other then at 5 mins to the hour a third needs to be PVR'd. then you have a problem


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Depends - lets say you have two feeds and your are watching one and recording the other then at 5 mins to the hour a third needs to be PVR'd. then you have a problem

    Most likely the other show is actually over at 5 to the hour considering ads lead into the next show starting on the hour.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 12,066 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    Effectively you are asking for longer commercial breaks, or for a good chunk of filler at the end of the hour. That's your prerogative - most people would prefer the shorter commercial breaks. TV companies do not like the filler at the end of the hour option, as it's a prime opportunity for the viewer to go flicking channels and be lost to them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 981 ✭✭✭medoc


    Elmo wrote: »
    Most likely the other show is actually over at 5 to the hour considering ads lead into the next show starting on the hour.



    It's getting more common now I think to run the end of the show right up to the end of the hour, or as close as possible to prevent loosing viewers on the channel. Discovery do this sometimes I've noticed. With a short break a few minutes either side of the hour.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 20,144 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    RTE had a very nice series called 'Dan and Becks' of two doing a line with each talking to the camera, saying what they thought, neither getting the other. It lasted about 10 mins per episode and was brilliant. That would fill such a gap.

    Could even replay it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    RTE had a very nice series called 'Dan and Becks' of two doing a line with each talking to the camera, saying what they thought, neither getting the other. It lasted about 10 mins per episode and was brilliant. That would fill such a gap.

    Could even replay it.

    RTÉ will not consider repeating any Irish TV Drama. Storyland is online for a reason.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 12,066 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    It was repeated, as was its spiritual successor Sarah and Steve.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 20,144 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    Dan and Becks is certainly a format that could be worth repeating - perhaps bringing it up to the minute - even using different age groups.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    icdg wrote: »
    It was repeated, as was its spiritual successor Sarah and Steve.

    Repeated Once. Drama on RTÉ rarely gets repeated, when was the last time season 1 of LOVE/HATE repeated? Last time The Clinic was repeated? Or Raw or DDU?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,914 ✭✭✭kooga


    I'm using a humax freeview hd box (no series link) and on Tuesday night the machine is taping greys anatomy on rte 2 followed by x files while on rte 1 code black. In addition on Thursday night I record the good wife which is all over the place in the schedules.

    No issues with recording!

    Once I have watched these shows over the weekend I set the box up again to record.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,914 ✭✭✭kooga


    I'm using a humax freeview hd box (no series link) and on Tuesday night the machine is taping greys anatomy on rte 2 followed by x files while on rte 1 code black. In addition on Thursday night I record the good wife which is all over the place in the schedules.

    No issues with recording!

    Once I have watched these shows over the weekend I set the box up again to record.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,567 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    FRIENDO wrote: »
    I have Saorsat for the Irish channels with a Walker approved Saorsat box - has 7 day tv guide and recording is easy using an external hard drive.
    With Saorsat you can only record one channel at a time, however with only having 6 Irish stations at the moment this generally is not a problem.
    AFAIK The Saorsat LNB has a dual output. And even then it's only one transponder so you could just use a splitter to send to multiple receiver.

    The problem is a limitation of the receiver.

    With a non-saorvsat approved receiver you could set up a timed recording.


    Way easier than trying to follow Channel 4's seamingly random times for Babylon 5


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭FRIENDO


    Yes, I've been looking at options,
    However changing my present set up at the moment is possibly not happening.

    Main tv - 2007 Panasonic plasma 50" Freeview.
    Humax freesat foxsat hdr 2008/9
    Walker Saorsat approved stb with external hardrive 2014.
    Recording is very good at the moment
    Everything is working perfect at the moment.
    I also have an android box.

    I suppose if I was looking for change or improving it would possibly be a new
    4k tv (pending future broadcast), with both dvb-t2 for Freeview HD and a built-in Sat tuner for picking up Saorsat, possibly with a screen of 55"- 65", a minimum of 4 hdmi connections and 2 usb connections.
    I would also look at the newest freesat humax 1100s hdr.

    I'll keep dreaming.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭reboot


    FRIENDO wrote: »
    Yes, I've been looking at options,
    However changing my present set up at the moment is possibly not happening.

    Main tv - 2007 Panasonic plasma 50" Freeview.
    Humax freesat foxsat hdr 2008/9
    Walker Saorsat approved stb with external hardrive 2014.
    Recording is very good at the moment
    Everything is working perfect at the moment.
    I also have an android box.

    I suppose if I was looking for change or improving it would possibly be a new
    4k tv (pending future broadcast), with both dvb-t2 for Freeview HD and a built-in Sat tuner for picking up Saorsat, possibly with a screen of 55"- 65", a minimum of 4 hdmi connections and 2 usb connections.
    I would also look at the newest freesat humax 1100s hdr.

    I'll keep dreaming.
    Just when we thought things might settle down with 4k, NHK are going straight to 8k, and Netflix adopting HDR, High Dynamic Resolution.
    After some people looking forward to the X Files, can it get any worse? Never mind the start time.Reminds me of two bald men fighting over a comb.


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