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Retro Game of the Week, Week 5
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Got to agree with O1s1n on this one. Sonic 1 was a very big deal back in the day. It single handedly gave Sega a boost in sales that made it the number one console in Europe and in the States as well (until Donkey Kong Country on the SNES in the US). I also remember the massive hype machine and marketing push behind Sonic 2. I knew about Sonic 2sday despite not having a Megadrive and it got a huge amount of coverage on Gamesmaster.
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So, critically Sonic wasn't well received by you and your mates, that's cool, but the bulk of Megadrive/Genesis owners and reviewers poured little other than lurve on the game and it's followup.
I understand, I had a MD back in the day when a mate had a Snes and I would try to convince him and all of those crowding around Super Mario Kart that Road Rash II was superior, principally because it had hills and stuff.
Sadly, no one bought into my delusion
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I remember Sonic 1 being very well regarded at the time, even in multiformat magazines.
Also Sonic 1 was released a few weeks before SMW in the States and nearly a year before the European release of SMW.
You have to also remember how strong fanboyism was back in the 90's. I always wanted a Super Nintendo because I wanted to play Mario games so much but when I got my Megadrive at Christmas 1993, Sonic was the king for me and Mario and Nintendo sucked. It was probably the same with your mates if they were Nintendo kids.
Sonic might not have been of the quality of SMW but not many platformers were. Sonic was still one of the few to give SMW a good run for it's money.
As for the golden age of platformers, it's hard to choose between the 8 and 16 bit era. Platformers on the NES got awesome from 1987 onwards and there were some incredible late 90's games for the platform but the SNES and Megadrive were home to equally great games.
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I would have considered Sonic 3 to be my favourite of the series, up to now.
The game save system allowed me to make headway despite being cursed with an inability to be competent at any videogame ever made
The music in that one was fantastic, best of series I thought, and had a great use of samples.
Also, the visuals and effects that they squeezed out of the MD was very impressive, as was the brave use of Sonic&Knuckles to expand and extend the game into something new, although the penchant for shoehorning in more characters seemed to have started there with the aforementioned Knuckles.0 -
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So, critically Sonic wasn't well received by you and your mates, that's cool, but the bulk of Megadrive/Genesis owners and reviewers poured little other than lurve on the game and it's followup.
I understand, I had a MD back in the day when a mate had a Snes and I would try to convince him and all of those crowding around Super Mario Kart that Road Rash II was superior, principally because it had hills and stuff.
Sadly, no one bought into my delusion
http://www.meanmachinesmag.co.uk/pdf/sonicmd.pdf
I was sure Mean Machines had given the game <80%
Looks like it was just me then!0 -
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http://www.meanmachinesmag.co.uk/pdf/sonicmd.pdf
I was sure Mean Machines had given the game <80%
Looks like it was just me then!
Well that's the really good thing about games with a bit of distance from their release.
All the hype and guff tends to fall away and you are left with a stark, personal opinion that is as good as any other.
I don't like Streets of Rage or Golden Axe, everyone else loves them, but my opinion is as valid as everyone elses, Isn't it lads and lassies?
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It's not actually shoehorning, Sonic 3 & Knuckles was originally meant to be one single giant game...I think it was either time constraints or cart size that meant they had to split it into two?
I wasn't talking about levels or features, more that with Knuckles we soon got Amy Rose and a whole host of other characters, like this eejit_profil.png/revision/latest?cb=20150907203928)
Who only Touch Fuzzy Get Dizzy likes because of the frog0 -
Well that's the really good thing about games with a bit of distance from their release.
All the hype and guff tends to fall away and you are left with a stark, personal opinion that is as good as any other.
I don't like Streets of Rage or Golden Axe, everyone else loves them, but my opinion is as valid as everyone elses, Isn't it lads and lassies?
I actually enjoyed Sonic Adventure on the Dreamcast
and the ones on the Gamecube with the hoverboarding sections and shooter bits weren't that bad.
So yeah, I'm on my own again!
I'm struggling to remember any 16bit ones bar SMW and Yoshi's Island, 8bit I have fond memories of Wonderboy 3, Megaman 2, SMB3, Psycho Fox and even Alex Kidd for all its weirdness.Retr0gamer wrote: ».
As for the golden age of platformers, it's hard to choose between the 8 and 16 bit era. Platformers on the NES got awesome from 1987 onwards and there were some incredible late 90's games for the platform but the SNES and Megadrive were home to equally great games.0 -
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I don't like Streets of Rage or Golden Axe, everyone else loves them, but my opinion is as valid as everyone elses, Isn't it lads and lassies?
Ah the opinion. Lots of argumentative people think that because it's their opinion it can't be wrong. They'd be current. However an opinion can be stupid :PI actually enjoyed Sonic Adventure on the Dreamcast and the ones on the Gamecube with the hoverboarding sections and shooter bits weren't that bad.
So yeah, I'm on my own again!.
I really do not like the Sonic Adventure games. They were great at release but time has not been kind and a recent playthrough has left me feeling that they are actually awful and up there with the worst of Sonics modern insults to videogames.I'm struggling to remember any 16bit ones bar SMW and Yoshi's Island, 8bit I have fond memories of Wonderboy 3, Megaman 2, SMB3, Psycho Fox and even Alex Kidd for all its weirdness.
There's loads of great 16 bit ones other than sonic and Mario. Rocket Knight Adventures, doremi fantasy, magical pop'n, the donkey Kong Country games, Demons Crest, the Ghouls and Ghosts games, Dynamite Headdy, Plok, Monster World 4, both Konami Tiny Toons games, Batman and Robin and the Megaman 16 bit games. That's just off the top of my head.
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Retr0gamer wrote: »Ah the opinion. Lots of argumentative people think that because it's their opinion it can't be wrong. They'd be current. However an opinion can be stupid :P
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I can't say no to Frogs. Even Slippy in Starfox, yet to meet anyone who likes him either, I think he's adorable for a toad (love Pudge the ToadI wasn't talking about levels or features, more that with Knuckles we soon got Amy Rose and a whole host of other characters, like this eejit
Who only Touch Fuzzy Get Dizzy likes because of the frog
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Amy Rose was in it long before Big though, I've a comic there from 93 with her in it I think. Wasn't she in CD too? I know she was in R of course with her car. I miss old school Amy though.
I liked both Adventure Games but nothing beats Sonic 3 & Knuckles.0 -
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the groutch wrote: »damn you Sera, now I've got an uncontrollable urge to Youtube the Sonic R soundtrackDamn you Grouch, now I'm hearing the Sonic R themes in my head!
That was my plan all along! And there's no Batman to save you with his "urge for Sonic R ost reversal spray" either. Muhahahaha~
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