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Insuring a Commercial Vehicle for "Social/Domestic" only

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  • Registered Users Posts: 797 ✭✭✭cplwhisper


    Add roughly 50% to what u paid in 2015 to get your premium.
    Massive increase in theft-attempted theft claims is distorting the rates.

    Insurance companies having to pay out claim to other innocent party's because the fake SD&P driver was actually doing 'deliveries on the Quiet' or using van as 'minibus to shuttle workers to multiple sites...(we all know them and they think it's fine to do)
    . Until try whittle off the fake SD&P the rate look to increase yearly now. Sorry for Wee rant


  • Registered Users Posts: 217 ✭✭nhur


    cplwhisper wrote: »
    Add roughly 50% to what u paid in 2015 to get your premium.
    Massive increase in theft-attempted theft claims is distorting the rates.

    Insurance companies having to pay out claim to other innocent party's because the fake SD&P driver was actually doing 'deliveries on the Quiet' or using van as 'minibus to shuttle workers to multiple sites...(we all know them and they think it's fine to do)
    . Until try whittle off the fake SD&P the rate look to increase yearly now. Sorry for Wee rant

    aha - so that's why i can't get a quote! - cos i'm an actual SD&P user! only use the van for windsurfing/surfing on the weekends. the real prob for me now is that I need to put in a row of seats in the back cos the family is expanding... but i won't be able to insure the van if i do... :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 797 ✭✭✭cplwhisper


    nhur wrote: »
    aha - so that's why i can't get a quote! - cos i'm an actual SD&P user! only use the van for windsurfing/surfing on the weekends. the real prob for me now is that I need to put in a row of seats in the back cos the family is expanding... but i won't be able to insure the van if i do... :(

    Pre-installed back seats(crew cab) vehicles are OK but coverted vehicles are messy as not all done compliment to makers specification.. Explain the case direct to staff in a branch opposed to Internet list and they might be able on case-on-case basis...


  • Registered Users Posts: 217 ✭✭nhur


    cplwhisper wrote: »
    Pre-installed back seats(crew cab) vehicles are OK but coverted vehicles are messy as not all done compliment to makers specification.. Explain the case direct to staff in a branch opposed to Internet list and they might be able on case-on-case basis...
    i talked to many people on the phone about it but no joy :( brokers or otherwise.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 38,460 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    kig wrote: »
    My insurance on my commercial pick-up has doubled from €495 to €889, what's the story?

    That's the norm for this years premiums. My commercial policy went from €452 to €761. Couldn't get a cheaper quote and some came in at €1500!!!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,132 ✭✭✭screamer


    I've also heard of problems taxing them. Tax office is now asking for a list of pps numbers of employees to show that you have a need for a crewcab. So whilst it might be ok whilst the vehicle is taxed retaxing it might be a nightmare.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 38,460 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    screamer wrote: »
    I've also heard of problems taxing them. Tax office is now asking for a list of pps numbers of employees to show that you have a need for a crewcab. So whilst it might be ok whilst the vehicle is taxed retaxing it might be a nightmare.

    Haven't come across that issue in Dublin (yet). I only put 6 months on it in January so I'll update in August.


  • Registered Users Posts: 263 ✭✭kig


    My thoughts are that there is just not enough competition in the market, why else can I not get any decent alternative quotes.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,635 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    I can't get any quotes.
    I have purchased a Transit Connect van and I tried to insure it the honest way.
    I.e. I truthfully state that I work in an office and I want to insure a van for domestic use.
    Answer N. O. NOT possible. No way, no how. I have rang FBD, AXA, tried brokers, insure my van and quotevaninsurance.ie
    I don't even have the recourse of getting three letters of refusal.
    That means as it stands a private individual CANNOT insure a van for domestic use in Ireland.
    So I will have to say I sometimes work for (company I once worked for) and that I am in the field an require a van for that. Or I set myself up as a company. Otherwise there is absolutely no way I can isure my van.
    I tried my existing company (nononsense), all I wanted to do was transfer my insurance, not a chance.
    I know surfer dudes with hi-aces, neighbour drives a hilux, GF drives a Landcruiser, all commercially taxed and privately insured, how the HELL are they doing it? The ALL would have to at least tell some fibs to get insured!
    I can't see me getting insurance on a Connect through 100% honest means and you know what? I WILL get insurance through any means necessary.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,635 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    OK, outright lie number one didn't work.
    I can't carry goods (so all delivery companies and couriers can't get insurance), it will only work if I carry tools.
    So outright lie #2 will be I carry tools to carry out repairs on customer's sites.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,701 ✭✭✭Cheensbo


    Insure it to carry your own goods/tools etc.

    Sign the declaration and grit your teeth.

    Not only does it pay to be dishonest, you literally have no choice.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,503 ✭✭✭TrailerBob


    What's bizarre about this situation is that commercial policies on light goods vehicles include social, domestic and pleasure use..


  • Registered Users Posts: 797 ✭✭✭cplwhisper


    I can't get any quotes.
    I have purchased a Transit Connect van and I tried to insure it the honest way.
    I.e. I truthfully state that I work in an office and I want to insure a van for domestic use.
    Answer N. O. NOT possible. No way, no how. I have rang FBD, AXA, tried brokers, insure my van and quotevaninsurance.ie
    I don't even have the recourse of getting three letters of refusal.
    That means as it stands a private individual CANNOT insure a van for domestic use in Ireland.
    So I will have to say I sometimes work for (company I once worked for) and that I am in the field an require a van for that. Or I set myself up as a company. Otherwise there is absolutely no way I can isure my van.
    I tried my existing company (nononsense), all I wanted to do was transfer my insurance, not a chance.
    I know surfer dudes with hi-aces, neighbour drives a hilux, GF drives a Landcruiser, all commercially taxed and privately insured, how the HELL are they doing it? The ALL would have to at least tell some fibs to get insured!
    I can't see me getting insurance on a Connect through 100% honest means and you know what? I WILL get insurance through any means necessary.

    Send me pm


  • Registered Users Posts: 797 ✭✭✭cplwhisper


    nhur wrote: »
    cplwhisper wrote: »
    Pre-installed back seats(crew cab) vehicles are OK but coverted vehicles are messy as not all done compliment to makers specification.. Explain the case direct to staff in a branch opposed to Internet list and they might be able on case-on-case basis...
    i talked to many people on the phone about it but no joy :( brokers or otherwise.

    Nhur - send me Pm


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,979 ✭✭✭Stovepipe


    so, is it possible to have a VW Transporter or similar with windows and second row of seats, for use as a family van? or are all those GAA mothers bringing piles of kids/hurleys/jerseys to the nations' gah pitches an illusion?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    Have you tried the likes of KennCo, Geffion or ARB?


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