Off licences and draconian closing times

One More Toy

What a load of bollóx

Ten minutes too late for the off licence to get a few tins to sit down with.

Fúckers in the dáil protecting their publican friends

Boskowski

If it bothers you that much maybe a couple of nights off the juice is just what you need.

Timberrrrrrrr

One More Toy wrote: »

What a load of bollóx

Ten minutes too late for the off licence to get a few tins to sit down with.

Fúckers in the dáil protecting their publican friends

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I bet your "that guy" who also whinges when the barman won't serve you at 1:15 even though the bar closes at 12.30

Junkyard Tom

O.L. opening times are really really stupid. An OL should be allowed to sell 24/7 if it's not causing a nuisance.

Banjo String

I have the opposite problem OP.

Bought a dozen cans there earlier, chilled them way way down til there was droplets clinging to the can, sat down to enjoy one and just thought fcuk it, then put them out in the garage I til some other time.

Pm me, if you're anyway half close by you're more than welcome to them.

Actually am only joking.

**crack**

*glug glug glug glug*

Sweet sweet Friday night beer and some decent choons.

m1ck007

Banjo String wrote: »

I have the opposite problem OP.

Bought a dozen cans there earlier, chilled them way way down til there was droplets clinging to the can, sat down to enjoy one and just thought fcuk it, then put them out in the garage I til some other time.

Pm me, if you're anyway half close by you're more than welcome to them.

Actually am only joking.

**crack**

*glug glug glug glug*

Sweet sweet Friday night beer and some decent choons.

Yeoooooooooo

c_man

One More Toy wrote: »

Fúckers in the dáil protecting their publican friends

Nah, it's to protect the kids (or whatever **** excuse they gave the plebs).

I feel for you OP. I'm having the next can in your honour.

Strumms

I have the dilema... i have cans in the fridge but a txt to go to the pub.. im a bit knackered all the same.. still nice to have the choice

There is a small supermarket on the north side of Dublin. Open 24 hours where it is legal and they will sell you cans... guess where it is :pac:

Its a bit of a pisser i was in a Spar before Christmas that opens until 11pm. got there at about 9.50 i was just buying groceries when i got to the till the guy in front of me had 8 cans and his mate the same.. they had been there before me also buying other stuff and carrying the beer in the trolly... your man on the till wouldnt let them buy the beer as the till was reading 10.01pm .

melissak

Strumms wrote: »

I have the dilema... i have cans in the fridge but a txt to go to the pub.. im a bit knackered all the same.. still nice to have the choice

There is a small supermarket on the north side of Dublin. Open 24 hours where it is legal and they will sell you cans... guess where it is :pac:

Its a bit of a pisser i was in a Spar before Christmas that opens until 11pm. got there at about 9.50 i was just buying groceries when i got to the till the guy in front of me had 8 cans and his mate the same.. they had been there before me also buying other stuff and carrying the beer in the trolly... your man on the till wouldnt let them buy the beer as the till was reading 10.01pm .

It was one minute past ten. Rules are rules baa baaa

The Backwards Man

They're open long enough. As someone who likes a drink meself, the childish relationship many people have with alcohol never ceases to amaze me.

If it was a banana or a head of lettuce you'd have to wait until the shop opened, but if it's a bottles of cheap suds lets throw our toys out of the pram and cry like big babies.

hatrickpatrick

The 10PM closing time is moronic and leads to worse binge drinking. People buy way more than they actually need "just in case" and end up overdoing it.

The Backwards Man

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

The 10PM closing time is moronic and leads to worse binge drinking. People buy way more than they actually need "just in case" and end up overdoing it.

People are idiots.

Who knew?

Agricola

The Backwards Man wrote: »

They're open long enough. As someone who likes a drink meself, the childish relationship many people have with alcohol never ceases to amaze me.

If it was a banana or a head of lettuce you'd have to wait until the shop opened, but if it's a bottles of cheap suds lets throw our toys out of the pram and cry like big babies.

TBF, few people are looking for, or go out shopping at 10pm for heads of lettuce. Alcohol, unless you have a problem, is a nocturnal pursuit which many people would only put an ounce of thought into around 10pm of a Friday night. It's not unreasonable to expect them to be open til 11 / 11.30. Opening later in the day should be part an parcel of this.

Bad planning op, for a start off licences are more expensive than supermarkets so you should just stock up when doing your shopping and buy 24 or 48 cans (particularly if there are 24 for 24 offers etc) so you will be sure to keep you going should you want a few. This buying a few cans tonight and then having to go again for more for the next night is just extra effort. Keep a stock.

Iwasfrozen

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

The 10PM closing time is moronic and leads to worse binge drinking. People buy way more than they actually need "just in case" and end up overdoing it.

I'm sure you've read lots of evidence to justify your absolute certainty.

Spanish Eyes

Even worse is the fact that people cannot avail of the M&S meal deal with wine on their way into work (store in the works fridge ha ha). That's because the off sales aren't permitted before 10.30. So all the retired and the ladies and men of leisure can grab the stuff, but the wurkers can't.

I suppose you could get it on the way home, but that's not the point!

Nodin

One More Toy wrote: »

What a load of bollóx

Ten minutes too late for the off licence to get a few tins to sit down with.

Fúckers in the dáil protecting their publican friends

Are you doubting the wisdom of our sage leaders?

Taylor365

Fly to London and pick up a few tins.

Be back in time for kippers!

511

The Backwards Man wrote: »

If it was a banana or a head of lettuce you'd have to wait until the shop opened, but if it's a bottles of cheap suds lets throw our toys out of the pram and cry like big babies.

What a stupid comparison. If it was a banana or lettuce, they can simply find a substitute food to eat. What substitute is there for alcohol, weed, ecstasy?

Closing times discriminate against people who work nights and some people just simply forget to buy drink because they're busy.

The Backwards Man

511 wrote: »

What a stupid comparison. If it was a banana or lettuce, they can simply find a substitute food to eat. What substitute is there for alcohol, weed, ecstasy?

Closing times discriminate against people who work nights and some people just simply forget to buy drink because they're busy.

Yeah, you're right, alcohol is much more important than food.

I love the old shift work analogy too, it makes me smile. Take London for example, how many 24 hour pubs are there in that city of ten million people? Eight? Ten? Something like that anyway. If you can find me one shift worker in any of those that are open at 3am any morning in the next week I will give you Stg£1000. Queen's head.

511

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Yeah, you're right, alcohol is much more important than food.

No-one presented this strawman argument. Food and alcohol are not comparable, so why are you comparing them? You're the one who brought food into this debate.

I love the old shift work analogy too, it makes me smile. Take London for example, how many 24 hour pubs are there in that city of ten million people? Eight? Ten? Something like that anyway. If you can find me one shift worker in any of those that are open at 3am any morning in the next week I will give you Stg£1000. Queen's head.

In case you have forgotten, we are talking about 24 OFF-LICENSES. These are legal in the UK. Why is it so wrong for someone to buy alcohol after a night shift?

Your thoughts on this subject are so incoherent, I'm struggling to understand where your coming from. Could you at least offer a logical reason why we should keep our current closing times?

c montgomery

511 wrote: »

What a stupid comparison. If it was a banana or lettuce, they can simply find a substitute food to eat. What substitute is there for alcohol, weed, ecstasy?

Closing times discriminate against people who work nights and some people just simply forget to buy drink because they're busy.

Yawn

How does it discriminate against people who work nights? Off licences are closed at night when people work nights!!
If anything it's easier for people who work nights to nip to the offie during the day.

Just buy a few bottles/cans and keep them in the house for when you want them.
Poor planning on your part does not constitute discrimination

The Backwards Man

511 wrote: »

No-one presented this strawman argument. Food and alcohol are not comparable, so why are you comparing them? You're the one who brought food into this debate.



In case you have forgotten, we are talking about 24 OFF-LICENSES. These are legal in the UK. Why is it so wrong for someone to buy alcohol after a night shift?

Your thoughts on this subject are so incoherent, I'm struggling to understand where your coming from. Could you at least offer a logical reason why we should keep our current closing times?

Why is it so wrong to buy your alcohol at a time when the off licenses are open? If alcohol has that much control over your life that you can't treat its purchase the same as you could a bit of good butcher meat foe the dinner, a trip to the cinema or a haircut, then I don't think it's meant for you.

You say why do they have to close, I say why do they have to stay open?

511

c montgomery wrote: »

Yawn

How does it discriminate against people who work nights? Off licences are closed at night when people work nights!!

Oh, yeah, because everyone finishes at the exact same time during night shifts. Every single occupation on the country.

When I was in the Mater Hospital, the nurses finished at 8 in the morning.
Security guards finish around the same. Neither of these can a drink because of this law.

If anything it's easier for people who work nights to nip to the offie during the day.

No, it's much easier to walk into a 24 hour off-license whenever it suits you, instead of following a schedule based around a law to protect publicans.

Just buy a few bottles/cans and keep them in the house for when you want them.

What if you forget? People do forget these things due to a hectic schedule.

Poor planning on your part does not constitute discrimination

They shouldn't have to plan to begin with. This law was brought in to protect the dying pub trade.

It is discrimination. The current off-license times discriminate against people who are busy during those hours. The ban on selling alcohol on holy days discriminates people of other faiths and non-faiths.

Badly Drunk Boy

Strumms wrote: »

Its a bit of a pisser i was in a Spar before Christmas that opens until 11pm. got there at about 9.50 i was just buying groceries when i got to the till the guy in front of me had 8 cans and his mate the same.. they had been there before me also buying other stuff and carrying the beer in the trolly... your man on the till wouldnt let them buy the beer as the till was reading 10.01pm .

I know in the likes of Tesco, alcoholic products are programmed not to scan at the till after 10pm, so that might also be the case for Spar.

The 10pm rule is ridiculous but it's not as if people don't know about it. Plan.

c montgomery

511 wrote: »

Oh, yeah, because everyone finishes at the exact same time during night shifts. Every single occupation on the country.

When I was in the Mater Hospital, the nurses finished at 8 in the morning.
Security guards finish around the same. Neither of these can a drink because of this law.

No, it's much easier to walk into a 24 hour off-license whenever it suits you, instead of following a schedule based around a law to protect publicans.

What if you forget? People do forget these things due to a hectic schedule.

They shouldn't have to plan to begin with. This law was brought in to protect the dying pub trade.

It is discrimination. The current off-license times discriminate against people who are busy during those hours. The ban on selling alcohol on holy days discriminates people of other faiths and non-faiths.

Most people working night shifts would go to bed after work and get up later in the day. They could then go buy alcohol if they wanted. No matter what shift pattern you work you will have the opportunity to but alcohol at some stage.

Even if off licences were allowed to operate 24 hours I bet most wouldn't as demand would not be there to justify the costs of staying open.

Just get over it and buy some to have in the house for "emergency" situations.

You couldn't be that busy anyway if your on boards

511

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Why is it so wrong to buy your alcohol at a time when the off licenses are open?

Eh, maybe they are busy? Didn't we already go over this?

Furthermore, can you imagine buying a 12 cans of Heineken during your lunch break at a large company, bringing that into work in front of all of your colleagues? What planet do you live on? Such stupid arguments you're coming out with.

If alcohol has that much control over your life that you can't treat its purchase the same as you could a bit of good butcher meat foe the dinner, a trip to the cinema or a haircut, then I don't think it's meant for you.

First of all, I don't drink. Gave up alcohol nearly 5 years ago. You love your strawman arguments, don't you? Logic isn't your forte here, clearly.

Secondly, I cut my own hair but waiting until to next day for a haircut won't kill me. Hair grows very slowly, in case you haven't noticed

Thirdly, if you can't get butcher meat because the butchers, there's always the packages stuff in 24 hour shops. I mightn't be as good, but at least it's an alternative.

Is there an alternative to alcohol? No, so why do you keep making these idiotic analogies? You continue to compare chalk and cheese.

You say why do they have to close, I say why do they have to stay open?

Because there's obviously demand for 24 off-licenses. Duh!

Herb Powell

The law is bolloccks, and the people making smug references to alcoholism are missing the point completely.

The Backwards Man

Herb Powell wrote: »

The law is bolloccks, and the people making smug references to alcoholism are missing the point completely.

There's plenty more drink related problems besides alcoholism. The inability to forward plan seems to be a major one for a lot of folk.:pac:

TerrorFirmer

The argument that paints people who would like to be able to purchase alcohol after 10pm as the sort who have issues with alcohol or controlling their own lives is pretty bizarre.

It is stupid that the law is 10pm - I don't think anyone is exactly calling for the introduction of 24 hour booze mega-marts, but a closing time of even 11pm is far more reasonable and would solve the vast majority of complaints.

I've never been caught by it, really, but there are countless scenarios where it is a massive inconvenience.

Maybe you're working late - or maybe you've been delayed longer than expected or held up with something. Maybe you've been invited to a session or a party at the last minute and don't have anything to drink. Maybe you've forgotten to pick up a bottle of something on your way somewhere.

I'm sure the thinking centered around encouraging people into pubs.

511

c montgomery wrote: »

Most people working night shifts would go to bed after work and get up later in the day. They could then go buy alcohol if they wanted.

How would you know? Have you surveyed 1000 night shift workers to rule out the margin of error? No doubt this is completely anecdotal data you just made up.

What if they want to have a drink before they go to bed? No point drinking during the day if they have to work later again.

No matter what shift pattern you work you will have the opportunity to but alcohol at some stage.

Except nurses who work for 8 p.m. to 8 a.m. How would they look bringing alcohol into a hospital? Imagine walking into a hospital with a bag of cans at 8 p.m., storing them in a cupboard somewhere and the cans being at room temperature by the time they get home? It's just so much easier to visit a off-license when you finish work.

Even if off licences were allowed to operate 24 hours I bet most wouldn't as demand would not be there to justify the costs of staying open.

In the city, they have no problem, but no-one if forcing them to stay open 24, they should have to freedom to close whenever they want, which would reduce to costs.

Just get over it and buy some to have in the house for "emergency" situations.

Why don't you get over the fact that there's nothing wrong with 24 off-licenses

You couldn't be that busy anyway if your on boards

I don't drink and I don't work night shifts, I just despise the government trying to control every inch of our lives, especially when to ulterior motive here is the protect a dying pub trade.

511

Herb Powell wrote: »

The law is bolloccks, and the people making smug references to alcoholism are missing the point completely.

Especially when the person they're throwing these logical fallacies at hasn't drank alcohol in 4-and-a-half years.

I don't take any intoxicating substances, but I'm noting going to tell other when or when they shouldn't either.

Their lives, their choice.

Tigger

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Yeah, you're right, alcohol is much more important than food.

I love the old shift work analogy too, it makes me smile. Take London for example, how many 24 hour pubs are there in that city of ten million people? Eight? Ten? Something like that anyway. If you can find me one shift worker in any of those that are open at 3am any morning in the next week I will give you Stg£1000. Queen's head.

do staff count?

511

The Backwards Man wrote: »

There's plenty more drink related problems besides alcoholism. The inability to forward plan seems to be a major one for a lot of folk.:pac:

The inability to debate this subject logically is certainly one. Any more logical fallacious you want to throw at me? Should I seek counselling for "alcohol controlling my life" despite me not having a drink for nearly 5 years?

thattequilagirl

"511 wrote: »

Secondly, I cut my own hair but waiting until to next day for a haircut won't kill me. Hair grows very slowly, in case you haven't noticed


Is there an alternative to alcohol? No, so why do you keep making these idiotic analogies? You continue to compare chalk and cheese.



Because there's obviously demand for 24 off-licenses. Duh!

- Not drinking for a night won't kill anyone either

- There are loads of alternative things to do apart from alcohol

- There's demand for heroin and Coke too...

c montgomery

511 wrote: »

How would you know? Have you surveyed 1000 night shift workers to rule out the margin of error? No doubt this is completely anecdotal data you just made up.

What if they want to have a drink before they go to bed? No point drinking during the day if they have to work later again.

Except nurses who work for 8 p.m. to 8 a.m. How would they look bringing alcohol into a hospital? Imagine walking into a hospital with a bag of cans at 8 p.m., storing them in a cupboard somewhere and the cans being at room temperature by the time they get home? It's just so much easier to visit a off-license when you finish work.

In the city, they have no problem, but no-one if forcing them to stay open 24, they should have to freedom to close whenever they want, which would reduce to costs.

Why don't you get over the fact that there's nothing wrong with 24 off-licenses

I don't drink and I don't work night shifts, I just despise the government trying to control every inch of our lives, especially when to ulterior motive here is the protect a dying pub trade.

No I haven't surveyed anyone but worked nights myself and most would have went straight to bed. I'm sure those that wanted a drink after work would have some at home rather than having the inconvenience of going to the off licence after work.

In all of your examples the people working the shift pattern would have loads of time outside of work to buy alcohol. For most people this isn't an issue at all, just in your mind.

You have no evidence of the demand for 24 hour off licences either.

You sound like a bit of a Muppet

end of the road

Boskowski wrote: »

If it bothers you that much maybe a couple of nights off the juice is just what you need.

oh, another one of them. great.

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

I'm sure you've read lots of evidence to justify your absolute certainty.

frankly he is correct. plenty of visible evidence to back up his point if your prepared to look for it

thattequilagirl wrote: »

- Not drinking for a night won't kill anyone either

most people drink once a week. the chap you replied to hasn't for 4-5 years. try again.

thattequilagirl wrote: »

- There are loads of alternative things to do apart from alcohol

grand, most of us do them. still no argument for the anti-competitive protectionist restrictions.

thattequilagirl wrote: »

- There's demand for heroin and Coke too...

apart from all being a drug, that point has no relevance to the discussion. try again.

c montgomery wrote: »

Yawn

How does it discriminate against people who work nights? Off licences are closed at night when people work nights!!
If anything it's easier for people who work nights to nip to the offie during the day.

Just buy a few bottles/cans and keep them in the house for when you want them.
Poor planning on your part does not constitute discrimination

the restrictions are anti-competitive and protectionism of the publican. thats the only reason they exist.

c montgomery wrote: »

Even if off licences were allowed to operate 24 hours I bet most wouldn't as demand would not be there to justify the costs of staying open.

fine, that would be up to them. however they would have the choice.

c montgomery wrote: »

Just get over it and buy some to have in the house for "emergency" situations.

no, we won't "get over it" publican. we won't be coming back to your pub and no matter how many anti-competitive laws you get your little government friends to bring in, we won't be back. your finished.

c montgomery wrote: »

You have no evidence of the demand for 24 hour off licences either.

lets remove the restrictions and see.

c montgomery wrote: »

You sound like a bit of a Muppet

oh, resorting to personal abuse now your arguments have been debunked. well done sir, i wondered how long it would be before you resorted to that.

The Backwards Man wrote: »

They're open long enough.

they aren't. only publicans or nanny state supporters would think otherwise. the days of everyone going home at 5 pm went years ago. this is about protectionism of the publicans so they can continue ripping off people.

The Backwards Man wrote: »

As someone who likes a drink meself, the childish relationship many people have with alcohol never ceases to amaze me.

a small few at most. the rest are right to be annoyed over restrictions that are blatent protectionism of the publicans, and that are anti-competitive.

The Backwards Man wrote: »

If it was a banana or a head of lettuce you'd have to wait until the shop opened, but if it's a bottles of cheap suds lets throw our toys out of the pram and cry like big babies.

if it was a shop they could open when they liked, for as long as they liked. if you wanted to get a banana or a head of lettuce, you could find out where the 24 hour shop is and drive to it. try again.

The Backwards Man wrote: »

People are idiots.

Who knew?

his point is still correct, it proves restrictions don't work.

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Why is it so wrong to buy your alcohol at a time when the off licenses are open?

why shouldn't he be able to buy it at his convenience, and why shouldn't the off licence decide when its best for their business to open and shut?

The Backwards Man wrote: »

If alcohol has that much control over your life that you can't treat its purchase the same as you could a bit of good butcher meat foe the dinner, a trip to the cinema or a haircut, then I don't think it's meant for you.

and this everyone, proves the likes of him have no valid argument. "begorra yarra must be an alcoholic for wanting to be able to buy at your own convenience begod" . i would say simply this is a chap who wishes to be able to buy at his own convenience.

The Backwards Man wrote: »

You say why do they have to close, I say why do they have to stay open?

i say why shouldn't they not be able to open and shut when they feel its best for their business? why are you so concerned that some realize restrictions on alcohol are blatent protectionism and nothing more, and don't actually work? if anything, its those who want to keep the restrictions dispite there being no argument to do so, and evidence that they have no effect, that are the problem.

Badly Drunk Boy

511 wrote: »

Except nurses who work for 8 p.m. to 8 a.m. How would they look bringing alcohol into a hospital? Imagine walking into a hospital with a bag of cans at 8 p.m., storing them in a cupboard somewhere and the cans being at room temperature by the time they get home? It's just so much easier to visit a off-license when you finish work.

Why do you think that people working nights would buy the drink on their way into work? In the past, I often worked 8pm to 8am and if I wanted to buy alcohol, I'd probably do my shopping at 3 or 4 pm, and bring it home, where cans could be chilling, if that's what I bought.

As I said already, I don't agree with the 10pm closing time. I reckon it'd be fair if off-licences were open to the same times as the pubs, like they used to.

Pac1Man

511 wrote: »

Except nurses who work for 8 p.m. to 8 a.m. How would they look bringing alcohol into a hospital? Imagine walking into a hospital with a bag of cans at 8 p.m., storing them in a cupboard somewhere and the cans being at room temperature by the time they get home? It's just so much easier to visit a off-license when you finish work.

What about not bringing it into work with them. SHOCK HORROR!!:eek:

They could leave it in the car.

Del2005

The Backwards Man wrote: »

If it was a banana or a head of lettuce you'd have to wait until the shop opened, but if it's a bottles of cheap suds lets throw our toys out of the pram and cry like big babies.

If it was a banana or head of lettuce I'd walk to the till and pay for them or do you want all businesses, bar pubs, shut at 10pm?

I work nights and have often had a few cans after a shift to wind down, sometimes it's hectic in work and others I'm too awake after driving home. Yet unless I get to the off licence the day before I have to stare at the ceiling for a few hours after work.

Since originally they told us that the restricted hours where to stop antisocial behaviour and it plainly hasn't worked they need to change the law to allow off licences open the same hours as on licences. Deal with the antisocial people and don't be tarring us all as scumbags.

hatrickpatrick

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

I'm sure you've read lots of evidence to justify your absolute certainty.

My evidence is purely anecdotal, but I can tell you that there have been many nights when I and many of my friends are heading to a college session at 9/9.30 and go nuts on multipacks in case we end up pulling an all nighter. If they were open 24/7 we'd buy far less and just wander back if we actually wanted more (but the effort of having to make the trip would ensure that we'd think twice about whether we really wanted to do it).

Of course this wouldn't change for people who live far away from offies, but if you're in the city and there's an offie next door which is constantly open, you're not going to buy massive crates.

K-9

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

My evidence is purely anecdotal, but I can tell you that there have been many nights when I and many of my friends are heading to a college session at 9/9.30 and go nuts on multipacks in case we end up pulling an all nighter. If they were open 24/7 we'd buy far less and just wander back if we actually wanted more (but the effort of having to make the trip would ensure that we'd think twice about whether we really wanted to do it).

Of course this wouldn't change for people who live far away from offies, but if you're in the city and there's an offie next door which is constantly open, you're not going to buy massive crates.

The reverse also applies, if it is next door it is easier to just buy a 6 pack and ease of access means you can still do the all nighter.

Tbh I think the widespread availability of off licences makes up for the times, sure they're fecking everywhere. Even villages or small towns near me have 2 or 3. Any filling station or decent newsagent have them now.

zurbfoundation

I'm usually organised for this early cut off, but the time it really bothers me is in the height of summer, like last week of June when it's bright till 11. I'm
Often digging in the garden and losing track of time, when I finish up and think I will have a beer? It's too late.

deco nate

Taylor365 wrote: »

Fly to London and pick up a few tins.

Be back in time for kippers!

Or just buy it in the airport?

deco nate

The Backwards Man wrote: »

There's plenty more drink related problems besides alcoholism. The inability to forward plan seems to be a major one for a lot of folk.:pac:

But not for those that have posted from a pub during a lock in eh?
See that's one of the downers in living in a city. Less chance of a lock in.
Lucky you;)

thattequilagirl

deco nate wrote: »

But not for those that have posted from a pub during a lock in eh?
See that's one of the downers in living in a city. Less chance of a lock in.
Lucky you;)

Most people here must live in central Dublin - I have loads of friends who work shifts in Galway who don't have loads of 24 hour shops local to them - apart from maybe a petrol station. Poor guys have to organize their food shopping, booze shopping, and all their other messages by 10pm as shops aren't open after that down the country. Somehow, they survive!

end of the road

thattequilagirl wrote: »

Most people here must live in central Dublin - I have loads of friends who work shifts in Galway who don't have loads of 24 hour shops local to them - apart from maybe a petrol station. Poor guys have to organize their food shopping, booze shopping, and all their other messages by 10pm as shops aren't open after that down the country. Somehow, they survive!

the shops could open 24 hours if they wanted to and there was the demand. off licences can't to try protect the publicans. try again.

The Backwards Man

deco nate wrote: »

But not for those that have posted from a pub during a lock in eh?
See that's one of the downers in living in a city. Less chance of a lock in.
Lucky you;)

As the great Phil Collins once said; Just do as I say don't do as I do:)

The Backwards Man

end of the road wrote: »

the shops could open 24 hours if they wanted to and there was the demand. off licences can't to try protect the publicans. try again.

When you live somewhere where they don't, it's no big deal to plan ahead though.

thattequilagirl

end of the road wrote: »

the shops could open 24 hours if they wanted to and there was the demand. off licences can't to try protect the publicans. try again.

No need for me to "try again". My point is that it's perfectly possible to organise it so that you get your booze, food and anything else you need within regular business hours - and that point stands.

endacl

Pedantic hat on, and probably a tangent, but, aside from that most excellent 1995 album by Paradise Lost, how can a time (as in o'clock, as opposed to period, epoch, or era) be described as 'draconian'?

I don't think draconian means what you think it means, OP....