Destiny 2.0 Rumours and Gossip

Kimbot

So Rumour has it that Destiny 2.0 will be hitting the shelves in September this year, the only rumours I have heard so far are that the storyline will involve Cayde a lot more.

This will be the first game I preorder since MW2

Generic Dreadhead

There better be more Variks or this series is dead to me

Mitch Connor

Would have to imagine the Cabal will be a big part of the next game, unless we are going to get a Spring/Summer raid to tide us over. TTK puts work into setting up the Cabal as a bigger incoming threat.

I hope Bungie have learned from their story mistakes in Destiny, and provide a more involved and coherent story presented within the sequel itself. I also hope they expand on the story that was (haphazzardly) set up in the first. We've heard very little about The Traveller since the end of the Vanilla Destiny story, and nothing at all of The Stranger. There should a lot more on those two elements, its very odd we've had so little said of either.

Will also be interesting to see how they handle the transition to Destiny 2. Hopefully last gen consoles are left behind so that current gen isn't constrained by the capabilities of 360/PS3. Also, how will the guardian move forward - Bungie have said they should be with us for the duration of the DEstiny timeline - but I can't see us being able to bring weapons/armour, unless it will only be useful for the first couple of missions - the actual look of your guadian is probably the thing people are tied to the least and would want to change the most. It is the weapons and armour people have attached themselves to in some way.

Generic Dreadhead

Conovar clearly didn't get the memo that generally page 1 of any speculation thread is meant to be wild sweeping statements and sarcastic responses.

"A New Anti-Craic Approaches!!!"

nevelator

Wasn't there some talk that Osiris has some part to play in 2.0 and that it would take place on Mercury and had a working title of "Destiny: The Shattered Suns". Or did I imagine all that?

Daraa

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Would have to imagine the Cabal will be a big part of the next game, unless we are going to get a Spring/Summer raid to tide us over. TTK puts work into setting up the Cabal as a bigger incoming threat.

I don't think so. With the way that the TTK ends seems to suggest that Eris's story isn't done. Same with the character that she is talking to.

Although they need to explain how Eris got to the dreadnought since we blew up her ship

TitianGerm

It has to be current gen only no allowances here what so ever.

Think the Cabal will feature heavily but Destiny needs a minimum of 2 raids a year.

aaronjumper

Daraa wrote: »

I don't think so. With the way that the TTK ends seems to suggest that Eris's story isn't done. Same with the character that she is talking to.

Although they need to explain how Eris got to the dreadnought since we blew up her ship

I'd say she borrowed someone elses or used magic similar to the type she uses to teleport you out of Crotas place when you're trying to steal a part of his soul.

Kimbot

nevelator wrote: »

Wasn't there some talk that Osiris has some part to play in 2.0 and that it would take place on Mercury and had a working title of "Destiny: The Shattered Suns". Or did I imagine all that?

U actually read a rumour yesterday that Mercury/The shattered suns is DLC for this gen Destiny. I must try get a link if I can find it again.

Generic Dreadhead

What percentage of Destiny players play on last ten. It has to be less than (conservatively) 10%. If you take our Clan as a cross section, we have 200 PS players, and only about 10 of them were/are PS3. That's 5%.

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few

gimli2112

The Queen isn't dead. The intro to TTK was the most impressive cut scene in the series. Keep expecting her to make a reappearance but ......nothing. Keep thinking I've missed a dead ghost, event, quest that would trigger her return.
She'll be back in 2, with claptrap.

ItsHoggie

Hopefully they include Grimoire in the actual game as well this time.

And some of the obvious things that were missing from Destiny now, like custom crucible matches, In game clan system etc.

And maybe a better faction system or even faction wars.

Mitch Connor

Cormac... wrote: »

Conovar clearly didn't get the memo that generally page 1 of any speculation thread is meant to be wild sweeping statements and sarcastic responses.

"A New Anti-Craic Approaches!!!"

Here, does that Cormac fella ever STFU?

EDIT: Opps!

thegame983

They should keep Earth/Moon/Venus/Mars as locations, but give all new maps and areas to visit. For example, leave the cosmodrome and head to the Amazon or something. A new raid based around a Cabal Base on Mars situated on Olympus Mons (tallest mountain on Mars and three time higher than Everest - thanks Wikipedia)

Then add in the major moons of Jupitor - Europa, Ganamede etc and i think that would be a pretty good start

Generic Dreadhead

From what little I know of the lore, I would point that, at this current juncture, the Cabal are both the least interesting and least fleshed out of the races

OptimusTractor

jonny24ie wrote: »

So Rumour has it that Destiny 2.0 will be hitting the shelves in September this year, the only rumours I have heard so far are that the storyline will involve Cayde a lot more.

This will be the first game I preorder since MW2

The more preorders the more likely it is to be rushed.

Don't drink the kool aid.

Stone Deaf 4evr

Rumour has it that it'll be fully free to play and rotten with microtransactions.

Dr. Mantis Toboggan

Stone Deaf 4evr wrote: »

Rumour has it that it'll be fully free to play and rotten with microtransactions.

Those games where you've to pay ten grand to unlock everything are great.

AbusesToilets

maybe they'll have figured out how to let me see who the 3 friends that are playing NF/ Crucible/ Raid are...

DeSelby83

How do people think they will handle new classes or sub classes with the next destiny. Will we get a new class or will we just keep expanding on what we have? I wonder will they keep the 3 classes and eventually we'll have 6/7 sub classes

Mitch Connor

DeSelby83 wrote: »

How do people think they will handle new classes or sub classes with the next destiny. Will we get a new class or will we just keep expanding on what we have? I wonder will they keep the 3 classes and eventually we'll have 6/7 sub classes

I reckon we are likely to see the same basic set of subclasses - but each of them will be changed in various ways. Some new powers, a different tree design and configuration.

It is certainly going to be interesting to see how Bungie handle the transition from D1 to D2, whenever it happens. I feel the only thing that may come with us is our guardian look. I am hoping that Destiny 2 is markedly different from Destiny, and leaves the old generation of consoles behind completely, so I would reckon it may be difficult to transfer everything to the new game.

The benefits of being a year 1 and 2 player may end up just being a shader, emblem and emote. Possibly a weapons/armour pack too. Maybe a subclass boost as well. Which wouldn't be too bad - within minutes of starting up The Taken King nearly all weapons and armour were obsolete from a PvE point of view.

The fact nothing has been announced, it may be the assumption that we are looking at a September release (the roadmap since before Destiny came out) is compeltely incorrect. Maybe we will simply get another big expansion later this year and another around the turn of the year with 2017 being the year of Destiny 2. Remember, apparently we are due a Cabal expansion and Vex expansion according to the roadmap - might be those have been delayed to bridge the longer than planned gap to D2.

Generic Dreadhead

I wouldn't put ANY stock in that timeline screenshot/photo any more if I'm being brutally honest.

Happy to be proven wrong though :P

Mitch Connor

Cormac... wrote: »

I wouldn't put ANY stock in that timeline screenshot/photo any more if I'm being brutally honest.

Happy to be proven wrong though :P

In what respect though?

In that it was never based on fact to begin with (made up) or that it holds no water now, despite being the plan up until relatively recently?

I wouldn't be epecting it to follow that roadmap to the letter anymore - it seems fairly obvious plans have dramatically changed. But I would still put stock in to it to the point it shows what the development team were likely working on.

A Cabal raid, imo, is going to be the next Raid we play. Whether we play that as part of an expansion later in the year or as the first Raid of destiny 2 is the question, in my opinion.

I think Bungie has to give the community something substantial prior to the release of Destiny 2 - and the timing of Destiny 2 will inform my opinion of just how substantial it needs to be, and when it should be released.

Generic Dreadhead

It hasn't held water since HoW was moved to May technically.

I've said before we'd never get "Raid" level content Free (based on emote Payments etc) and they are unlikely to release a Raid between now and Destiny 2 (that's just my gut feeling)

The best, I think we can hope for between now and Destiny 2 are the following:

• More Year 1 Exotics being added to year 2.
• More Year 1 strikes being added/recycled/taken-afied (like they did with Omnigul)
• Sparrow Racing League Season 2
• Maybe a few new quests (do content in X-Way and get Y-Reward) like say the Red Bull Quest
• Some other "Event" like Halloween

And at a push:

• A new Strike?
• A Handfull of new Missions in existing areas
• Some new difficulty tiers for old End Game content

I'd be "Satisfied" with that. That's basically where my expectations are sitting right now.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again...

Put yourself in the mindset of "King and Overlord of Bungie"
You have 500 employees. 300 of which are programmers/developers/testers/artsists etc (hypothetically) or in other words they work on "Content" the rest are stuff like finance/payroll/marketing/canteen/janitor/UAT/community/data analysts/behavioural psychologists

How do you divide up the focus of those 300 staff to achieve balance between Destiny 1 and 2?

I'd happily leave 50 of them working on Destiny 1 and have the other 250 focus 100% on Destiny 2

Mitch Connor

If they want any kind of active community between now and Destiny 2, a Raid is required. Crappy events and Sparrow Racing won't keep people coming for the next 9 months. Hell, a Raid will only keep peoeple coming back on for a month or two, and for not much else other than the Raid.

Maybe Bungie are just fine with that though - let Destiny 1 die off, cut down on maintenance and staff costs associated with it and hope everyone comes back for Destiny 2.

If Bungie want to keep the community engaged, they need to do something substantial, soon. If they don't care about the community, they can continue on the path of events and recycled material as you have laid out.

Generic Dreadhead

Maybe they don't want us "Active" as we were in the previous sense of the word, and are ok with us logging on one week a month for IB and a handful of other days to do X, Y, Z.

Maybe they've factored in this "Wind down" time into their business plan in a move to really not make a calamitous mess of Destiny 2 prior to release. "Don't throw good money after bad" springs to mind from a development point of view.

Bare in mind, if it is released (tentative date wise) on September 9th, really they can start hyping it BIG TIME in July/August after announcing it at E3 2016 in June. So by June, no one will really be focussing on Destiny 1, it'll be all about Destiny 2. They (unfortunately) only need to tow-the-line for 5 or 6 months

To be fair, the "Community" is not necessarily the 1,000+ hours club.

Take my mate Dave for example, bought all the content, has played about 130 hours, has rarely played the same content more than 2 or 3 times and is still only in Act 2 of tTK (he's ~275 light). I'd say there is a lot of the quiet-majority like him out there that don't feel hard done by from a content point of view.

They could really throw a total curveball if they wanted (and if I was running things I would be definitely suggesting it) and......

Give Vanilla Destiny Free in PS Plus in June
Give tDB and HoW Free in July
Give tTK free in August...

Bam!!!

Millions of more players dipping their toes in tentatively for 30-80 hours and arriving right on schedule as the Destiny 2 hype train comes rolling down the tracks.

Add in a HUGE marketing push (a-la tTK) and some generic pre-order stuff, leaving behind last gen and it's a win-win.

The only cost to Bungie is maintaining the infastructure in the back end to accommodate those extra players

syboit

surely if we were going to get Destiny 2 this sept, they would want to start the hype soon, start releasing video's/pictures to tease it ?

Generic Dreadhead

syboit wrote: »

surely if we were going to get Destiny 2 this sept, they would want to start the hype soon, start releasing video's/pictures to tease it ?

The Hype Train is a fickle mistress.
If it goes on for too long, the wheels start to fall off.

Look at Fallout 4, that was a quick turnaround, and frankly, a master stroke.

I don't, personally, want to be getting Hyped for 9 months.

It would not shock me if Destiny 2 was even pushed back to a (commercially more popular and viable) release of Mid-November.

Yakuza

An in-game LFG system would be nice, I've 311 light but not likely to go up much as I've not seen any end-game content (no VoG, Crota's End or King's Fall), nor am I likely to. At least there's some semi-decent drops and rewards now during IB.

I'm on the PS3 (my son and I play together with 2 PS3s at home (he has a sub account), so the cost of upgrading both is fairly stiff (presumably I'd have to buy the PS4 version at least once as well as buying two consoles).

I'd even settle for forcing a user to include what they want to do (Nightfall / Heroic / Raid) before spamming you with random "Play Destiny!" messages.

Generic Dreadhead

They should just do it like GTA5 has done it.... but subtle

Have a small "feed" area above your super bar saying:

X wants 1 player for Nightfall
Y wants 2 players for Kings Fall
Z wants 3 players for Crucible

They stay on your screen until that players fireteam is full, or 5 minutes, whichever comes 1st.

gimli2112

Honestly Bungie could market Destiny 2 as "This is a pile of shyte we messed up don't get it" and I'd still buy the de-lux legendary edition with plastic sparrow (not actual size)

ItsHoggie

Destiny 2 delayed.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-01-22-destiny-2-delayed-from-september-2016-report

Mitch Connor

if it is delayed, it points to a big fcuk up by Bungie. To have so little content planned for year 2, without Destiny 2 coming towards the end of it, shows they have fallen way behind schedule and aren't able to cope.

Asking the Live team to keep the game going with new content over the year when it hasn't been preplanned or worked on considerably at this point is just going to lead to massive disappointments when this event based DLC is released.

I can see Bungie needing to do a lot to win back the good faith of the player base when Destiny 2 does roll around, following the mess they have made of content/story/balancing they have made in Destiny 1.

Fcuk me I hope The Division is good enough to keep me engaged, as I think Destiny is basically finished; if the rpeorts are true.

ItsHoggie

Tbh I ain't fussed if it is delayed, the longer they work on the game the better it'll turn out.

Mitch Connor

ItsHoggie wrote: »

Tbh I ain't fussed if it is delayed, the longer they work on the game the better it'll turn out.

i just think Destiny 2 coming out this year is the only reasonable excuse for no proper content being added to Destiny 1. If there is no Destiny 2 this year then year 2 of destiny is an abject failure.

ItsHoggie

Mitch Connor wrote: »

i just think Destiny 2 coming out this year is the only reasonable excuse for no proper content being added to Destiny 1. If there is no Destiny 2 this year then year 2 of destiny is an abject failure.

Well if Destiny 2 did come out in September that would be the start of year 3, so if you put it like that year 2 is going to be a failure anyway.

Mitch Connor

ItsHoggie wrote: »

Well if Destiny 2 did come out in September that would be the start of year 3, so if you put it like that year 2 is going to be a failure anyway.

but there is an excuse if Destiny 2 is just around the corner. If it isn't then there is no excuse for the mess Bungie have made.

PhlegmyMoses

I really hope that they delay it if it's not finished. They had years to complete Destiny and the start was a bit of a joke so I am not confident that setting 2 year deadlines thereafter is a good plan. Just get it out when it's ready.

ItsHoggie

Mitch Connor wrote: »

but there is an excuse if Destiny 2 is just around the corner. If it isn't then there is no excuse for the mess Bungie have made.

It could still come out this year just might be later than September, I'd say Bungie's main aim would be to get it out before Christmas.

SolvableKnave

Everybody needs to pay attention to the very last line of that report. It is very salient when it comes to Vanilla Destiny, TTK business model, TTK DLC and content issues, and Destiny 2 release schedule. Bungie are not the decision makers.

DeSelby83

If it means a better game then im glad they are delaying it. Naughty dog delayed UC4 to make it a better game apparantly. Bungie could be in a similar position. And ye it would be great to get more content in between but didnt they also say they don't expect to keep people playing all the time.

OptimusTractor

If Eurogamer said water is wet. I'd still stick my hand in just to make sure.

wes

They probably scrapped most of it and are starting from scratch again .

SolvableKnave

Sequels represent the start of a new adventure for every player, with new worlds to explore, new stories to tell, new powers to acquire, new loot to earn, and much more. This led us to a decision that would enable us to serve both the game and the player’s best interests: Destiny 1 power, possessions, and Eververse-related items and currency will not carry forward. They will, however, remain accessible to you in Destiny 1.

We know that, just like us, you have grown fond of the Guardians you’ve created, so we do plan to preserve your character personalization. We are going to recognize the dedication and passion you’ve shown for this world. Specifically, the class, race, gender, face, hair, and marking selections for all characters that have achieved Level 20 and completed the Black Garden story mission will carry forward. We also plan to award those veteran accounts with honors that reflect your Destiny 1 accomplishments.

We believe this is the best path forward. It allows us to introduce the major advancements and improvements that all of us expect from a sequel, ensuring it will be the best game we can create, unencumbered by the past. We’re looking forward to sharing more details with you later this year for how we will honor your legacy in the future.

So, Destiny 2 is, so far, on course for a release this year. We know next to nothing about it, apart from our characters Race and appearance choices being carried forward, and some inference that the Cabal will be the main antagonists, based on a Mega Bloks leak. (It's also a personal hope that we see a Cabal based Raid)

I believe they are using a new game engine which will improve and speed up the process of adding new / moving existing terrain assets, which was a serious impediment in D1. (It was reported that it could take hours to just open up a game map file before even beginning to move/add assets).

One thing I do expect to see though, is the continuation of their Live Action Trailers, of which we've 3:

Destiny Official Trailer - Law of the Jungle

Destiny Live Action Trailer - Become Legend

The Taken King - Evils Most Wanted

General consensus here is E3 will be the launching stage for D2, so until then Guardians, hear the City's prayer and remember: You have been a refuge for us, a tower of strength against the enemy. Do not falter now lest the End of Days descend upon us.

Rossi IRL

Cant wait till E3. Should see alot of Destiny 2 at it.

Mitch Connor

Will be so interesting to see just how different the game will be to what we are playing now. from what updates they will do to the characters - to what lessons they have learned from destiny 1 in terms of economy and progression. Even how the game will be presented to us - will we have the same hub system we have now or will it be more immediate and how will missions etc be built around that.

Gonna be fun hoping on the hype train!

murphyebass

Can't wait for the second instalment. By far and away the most community based game I've ever played. You lot have a lot to be proud of/answer for. lol.

Out of curiosity are ye still playing the first game or like me have moved away from it?

Kimbot

Threads merged

Kimbot

The 1 and only thing I want too see in D2 is MORE VAULT SPACE

Generic Dreadhead

Might not need more Vault space, or a Vault period depending on how they review things like Loadouts, Levelling up, Attack Values, Armour Sets, Transmorg etc.

It could be a completely different Sheep

Maybe more Kiosks, who knows

dudeeile

jonnycivic wrote: »

The 1 and only thing I want too see in D2 is MORE VAULT SPACE

Actually the more and more I think about this, I reckon it's the last thing I need.