Best place to sell a big engined petrol.

bmwguy

AhHaor wrote: »

This could unleash all sorts of do do. But here goes. Thoughts on value of these cars IF renua get on and IF they have enough clout and they get rid of motor tax?

Do you see an overnight 33 % increase in value in the 1080 to 1490 tax band cars?

I'm well aware this will never happen. I'm just curious to hear what people think seeing as we've agreed the value is somewhere 3.5 - 5k for the OP car.

More than 33% I would imagine. 4.5k to 6k would be 33%, no motor tax and I think these cars would increase in value significantly. At that age they are no dearer than a golf, focus, mondeo, astra etc which are much cheaper initially and motor tax is the main reason. Petrol is another problem they are a bit (but not hugely) heavier than others on petrol. I would see the 530d become a sales sensation overnight though. Like the 520d did. For evidence of this, check out the prices of post 08 BMW v pre 08 BMW. Huge price differentials, the only difference being 400 odd Euro in motor tax annually

rocky

obi604 wrote: »

No, it's an SE.

(I'm definitely getting abused now)

Personally I'd pay 2k more for an MSport, although I wouldn't buy an SE in the first place. Other people may differ, but I don't like the normal SE seats for example.

You mentioned 6k asking? Haven't followed the prices since I got mine 3 years ago, but I would pay that for an MSport, so 4k for an SE for the right buyer

What other extras do you have? cruise, AC came standard I think. Do you really have Nappa leather (I have it, much nicer than Dakota )- does that mean you have comfort seats? great extra if so.

sogood

Bottom line is that your car is worth what someone is prepared to pay for it. And that depends on how much a potential buyer actually wants this actual car. You might be lucky and find a serious buyer who isn't put off by MPG figures and road tax and looks beyond that.

My barge is a 4 litre because it's what I wanted. The seller was lucky because we were both in the market at the same time. Best of luck with it and I hope you get what it's worth and that it goes to a good home.

Seth Brundle

AhHaor wrote: »

This could unleash all sorts of do do. But here goes. Thoughts on value of these cars IF renua get on and IF they have enough clout and they get rid of motor tax?

Being realistic (and not trying to politicise the topic), Renua will not get enough seats (if any) to do anything but eventually be merged back into FG. This motor tax waffle from them is just waffle.

Even in the hypothetical chance that they did get loads of seats, they may not carry out this change for a number of years. the OP trying to sell their E39 523i is unlikely to wait!

unkel

Do you really have to sell? What's your reason for selling? What were you thinking of buying? Even if suddenly your mileage is increasing (new job, etc.), do yourself a favour and do some realistic sums and think of alternatives

Realistically you'll get about €4k for your car (provided it has decent NCT left). Maybe a little bit more if it is immaculate, with desirable wheels, etc. depending on other spec, must have PDC. I bought my own '04 E60 auto 520i 2.5 years ago with low miles in excellent condition for €4k myself

520i is worth a little bit more than a 523i, probably because it has about the same power but a smaller engine (so lower tax). Only in Ireland!

The 6 cylinder petrol engine lends itself very well to conversion to LPG - uses the space in the boot for the space saver for the LPG tank, so you won't lose any boot space. Did you consider that?

BTW my car has cost me less than €300 in maintenance over the past 2.5 years (+ part worn tyres + cost of NCT). Contrary to popular belief, these cars do not cost a fortune to own (but don't bring them to BMW to do work either)

Avatar MIA

unkel wrote: »

BTW my car has cost me less than €300 in maintenance over the past 2.5 years (+ part worn tyres + cost of NCT). Contrary to popular belief, these cars do not cost a fortune to own (but don't bring them to BMW to do work either)

It's all hit and miss. A friend of mine got a 2012 320 and he's had a series of issues.

A 10 year old car could be pain free, but could also be a money pit waiting to happen.

obi604

unkel wrote: »

Do you really have to sell? What's your reason for selling? What were you thinking of buying? Even if suddenly your mileage is increasing (new job, etc.), do yourself a favour and do some realistic sums and think of alternatives

Realistically you'll get about €4k for your car (provided it has decent NCT left). Maybe a little bit more if it is immaculate, with desirable wheels, etc. depending on other spec, must have PDC. I bought my own '04 E60 auto 520i 2.5 years ago with low miles in excellent condition for €4k myself

520i is worth a little bit more than a 523i, probably because it has about the same power but a smaller engine (so lower tax). Only in Ireland!

The 6 cylinder petrol engine lends itself very well to conversion to LPG - uses the space in the boot for the space saver for the LPG tank, so you won't lose any boot space. Did you consider that?

BTW my car has cost me less than €300 in maintenance over the past 2.5 years (+ part worn tyres + cost of NCT). Contrary to popular belief, these cars do not cost a fortune to own (but don't bring them to BMW to do work either)

Hi

I am selling as I don't really need the car anymore. We have a car already and trying to cut costs.

bmwguy

obi604 wrote: »

Hi

I am selling as I don't really need the car anymore. We have a car already and trying to cut costs.

Can I ask how much you paid for it and how long ago? I am actually looking to trade up from my e39 sport to either an e60 or an x5 but the value on my car is so low I am not letting it go for what I would get for it, it has been super reliable, in great nick and I am afraid of getting a bad one! If you are not buying another car you can let it go for whatever you can get its not as big a problem as using the funds to purchase a replacement. Or your other car may be worth more disposing of and keeping your 523i if that's an option

OldMrBrennan83

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obi604

bmwguy wrote: »

Can I ask how much you paid for it and how long ago? I am actually looking to trade up from my e39 sport to either an e60 or an x5 but the value on my car is so low I am not letting it go for what I would get for it, it has been super reliable, in great nick and I am afraid of getting a bad one! If you are not buying another car you can let it go for whatever you can get its not as big a problem as using the funds to purchase a replacement. Or your other car may be worth more disposing of and keeping your 523i if that's an option

What color jocks are you wearing !! :pac:

I would not agree with the statement in bold, it should not matter whether I am buying another car or not. I still need to make sums add up. The reason I am selling it is to free up money to do work on the house and I need every penny I can get, so whether its work on the house or buying another car or buying a 80 inch television, it should not matter. I may as well tell you my life story at this stage.

Idbatterim

op i dont know what the other car you have is, but would it make sense to sell that one instead?

obi604

Idbatterim wrote: »

op i dont know what the other car you have is, but would it make sense to sell that one instead?

hi, to be honest, no it would not.

But there comes a day when you just have to try and sell a car (the 523) otherwise, I may as well just hold on to it forever.

unkel

obi604 wrote: »

But there comes a day when you just have to try and sell a car (the 523) otherwise, I may as well just hold on to it forever.

Might not be a bad idea. Thousands of people who traded in their older cars for low tax modern new(ish) diesels have suffered financially because of it

Forgive us for seeming to be nosy (most of us are trying to help), but what is your other car?

Tommyboy40

smash wrote: »

"big engined"

:pac:

Sad when a 2.5 is a big engine in this country!

AhHaor

Tommyboy40 wrote: »

Sad when a 2.5 is a big engine in this country!

Sad when said engine car tax costs you approximately 4% of average of average salary!

Tommyboy40

Tommyboy40 wrote: »

Sad when a 2.5 is a big engine in this country!

Back in the 80s & 90s 1.6 Sierras & Carinas were considered big engined by many when the average family car was a Kadet, Corolla, Escort or Sunny.

Tommyboy40

AhHaor wrote: »

Sad when said engine car tax costs you approximately 4% of average of average salary!

I tax 2 x 5l and 2 x 2.2l each year. It kills me to spend that much when the money seems to be wasted

obi604

Idbatterim wrote: »

op i dont know what the other car you have is, but would it make sense to sell that one instead?

No. Because herself will not touch my automatic with a barge pole.

John_Rambo

obi604 wrote: »

No. Because herself will not touch my automatic with a barge pole.

I'm debating on selling my 2.5 turbo petrol engine car. I was told Charles Hurst might trade it in with a decent price and (I'm told) you could claim some sort of tax back? I haven't looked in to it properly, but it's an option. Selling it North of the border. I've sniffed around and have had half decent offers on trade ins. Maybe the dealers have a market in the North or UK?

I could be totally incorrect, maybe some trade people could shed some light.

(best of luck with the sale, some really really nice cars being deemed worthless because they run on clean, refined, pure petrol :mad:)

unkel

obi604 wrote: »

No. Because herself will not touch my automatic with a barge pole.

Herself was the same. Loved the manuals. She'd never even driven any automatic car and until I bought the E60. She was not impressed. She obviously had to drive it anyway as it was our only car on the road at the time and now she wouldn't ever want a manual again

Most people having a go of a decent modern autobox in a decent car would be the same in my experience. Male or female. The E60 is the first 5-series that has sold more autos than manuals. The current model is at least 75% autos I'd say...

Donnelly117

John_Rambo wrote: »

I'm debating on selling my 2.5 turbo petrol engine car. I was told Charles Hurst might trade it in with a decent price and (I'm told) you could claim some sort of tax back? I haven't looked in to it properly, but it's an option. Selling it North of the border. I've sniffed around and have had half decent offers on trade ins. Maybe the dealers have a market in the North or UK?

I could be totally incorrect, maybe some trade people could shed some light.

(best of luck with the sale, some really really nice cars being deemed worthless because they run on clean, refined, pure petrol :mad:)

The tax you are talking about I'm guessing is VRT, I may be wrong but I think this can only be claimed back if the car was imported?

Jesus.

Augeo wrote: »

Back in the 80s & 90s 1.6 Sierras & Carinas were considered big engined by many when the average family car was a Kadet, Corolla, Escort or Sunny.

That is unreal

gctest50

Jesus. wrote: »

That is unreal

worse than that it were,

about 55kW on a really good day out of sierra n stuff

total dogsh**

Jesus.

74hp? I often think of how slow & powerless 'Irish' cars of that day were. They were also smaller. In the USA back then their cars were even bigger than they are now, with bigger engines too. Since then our cars have gotten bigger and theirs smaller but what would they have thought when they landed here on holiday for the first time & had a 1.3 Sunny Taxi picking them up at the Airport? Did they think they had come to the land of Darby O'Gill & the little people?

jimmycrackcorm

obi604 wrote: »

It is good mileage alright. But most Irish people are obsessed with getting 217 mpg and paying 42 euro in tax ; )

I spend €20 or less a month on petrol on my car but pay €200 a quarter on tax. Very easy to get obsessed.

Jesus.

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

I pay €200 a quarter on tax.

Why don't you pay it all in one go and save yourself a few quid?

corks finest

obi604 wrote: »

Hello

Looking to sell a 2006 523i Automatic. So that narrows my potential market to about 11 people ; )


Where is the best place to sell. Carzone seems to be more high quality than done deal.

And I think it's way cheaper now than before to advertise on carzone (40 v 5 euro)

Or would done deal be better for a car like I'm selling.

America

John_Rambo

Donnelly117 wrote: »

The tax you are talking about I'm guessing is VRT, I may be wrong but I think this can only be claimed back if the car was imported?

I really don't know! I was tinkering around looking to offload my big engine petrol car and someone I know mentioned it. Could be claptrap... sorry, no more info..

Supergurrier

Donnelly117 wrote: »

The tax you are talking about I'm guessing is VRT, I may be wrong but I think this can only be claimed back if the car was imported?

Very few Bmw's were made in Ireland

vandriver

All the details here

http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/vrt/export-repayment-scheme/faqs.html#section3-1