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Best place to sell a big engined petrol.

  • 11-01-2016 10:53pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,856 ✭✭✭


    Hello

    Looking to sell a 2006 523i Automatic. So that narrows my potential market to about 11 people ; )


    Where is the best place to sell. Carzone seems to be more high quality than done deal.

    And I think it's way cheaper now than before to advertise on carzone (40 v 5 euro)

    Or would done deal be better for a car like I'm selling.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,364 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    With a car like that you will have a fairly small market wherever you advertise it. Since both are fairly cheap I'd use both.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭corkgsxr


    I think done deal is the only one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,176 ✭✭✭Kevhog1988


    can you pm me some details please,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,509 ✭✭✭Donnelly117


    obi604 wrote: »
    Hello

    Looking to sell a 2006 523i Automatic. So that narrows my potential market to about 11 people ; )


    Where is the best place to sell. Carzone seems to be more high quality than done deal.

    And I think it's way cheaper now than before to advertise on carzone (40 v 5 euro)

    Or would done deal be better for a car like I'm selling.

    I think donedeal will get more views but also seems to get more time wasters compared to carzone. Ive my car advertised on Carzone and on a BMW forum. Carzone ad is a fiver IIRC


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,764 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    How many miles on it, is it good spec with letter etc? A high end one should sell easy enough if priced right, petrol prices have dropped by over a third from their peak.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,856 ✭✭✭obi604


    How many miles on it, is it good spec with letter etc? A high end one should sell easy enough if priced right, petrol prices have dropped by over a third from their peak.

    68,000 miles. Serviced roughly every 8,000 miles. Well looked after. Correct bmw long life 04 oil used.

    Black Nappa leather seats. Cruise, mfsw, ac etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,127 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    for the E5 put it up on carzone, dondeal and bmwdrivernet (if you can) for what its worth, I wouldnt call it a big engine, in fact given the irish motor tax system, in some ways, the 2.5 litre is ideal, decent power, 6 pot, but before the motor tax really starts getting crazy..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭gctest50


    obi604 wrote: »
    ..........

    And I think it's way cheaper now than before to advertise on carzone (40 v 5 euro)

    Or would done deal be better for a car like I'm selling.

    Don't forget you'd have to buy another simcard or phone or for the next 6 months you'll be getting calls like :
    "do you still have that 325d BMW"

    "I had a 2006 523i Automatic"

    "no, no the other one, the 325d , red "d" one you had "


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,764 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    obi604 wrote: »
    68,000 miles. Serviced roughly every 8,000 miles. Well looked after. Correct bmw long life 04 oil used.

    Black Nappa leather seats. Cruise, mfsw, ac etc

    68k miles is tiny on a car that age, it should be a big selling point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,856 ✭✭✭obi604


    68k miles is tiny on a car that age, it should be a big selling point.


    It is good mileage alright. But most Irish people are obsessed with getting 217 mpg and paying 42 euro in tax ; )


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,764 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    obi604 wrote: »
    It is good mileage alright. But most Irish people are obsessed with getting 217 mpg and paying 42 euro in tax ; )

    What kind of price have you in mind for it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,856 ✭✭✭obi604


    What kind of price have you in mind for it?


    This is the problem. Of course I need to get as much as I can. It's a lovely car and in any other country would probably sell for thousands more. I'm not going to say my asking price as will only get abused on here ; )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,509 ✭✭✭Donnelly117


    obi604 wrote: »
    This is the problem. Of course I need to get as much as I can. It's a lovely car and in any other country would probably sell for thousands more. I'm not going to say my asking price as will only get abused on here ; )

    Or you might find a buyer :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,856 ✭✭✭obi604


    Or you might find a buyer :pac:

    I could

    But more likely to get abused ; ))


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    "big engined"

    :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,267 ✭✭✭visual


    obi604 wrote: »
    I could

    But more likely to get abused ; ))

    I'll start with the abuse first.
    I've the older e39 525i I bought it cheap because no one wants them. But I think they are pick of the bunch in 5 series

    Everyone wants the 520d or so it appears despite timing chain problems.

    Best you can do will be DD add at price you want then when you get feed up with few to no calls is lower the price. eventually the car will sell when price matches what someone is willing to pay. But you already know your going to take a hammering so it boils down to how quickly you want to sell it.

    I like the 2.5 petrol i6 great engine


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 296 ✭✭AhHaor


    OP I've 2006 525i. Put about 2.5k into it over 18 month ownership. Put Dension in it for Bluetooth mp3 playing. 100k km 167miles and apart from a few tiny dings it's in great condition and NCT till Aug 17.

    I'd like to think it's worth 8
    Irish market would be 6
    I'll get offers of 3-4 on DD. If at all. Plus have to deal with idiots lowballing

    Mine is half leather and the 525 vs 523. But apart from the milage difference sound similar. I'd think those numbers above are what you'll be looking at (unfortunately).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,856 ✭✭✭obi604


    AhHaor wrote: »
    OP I've 2006 525i. Put about 2.5k into it over 18 month ownership. Put Dension in it for Bluetooth mp3 playing. 100k km 167miles and apart from a few tiny dings it's in great condition and NCT till Aug 17.

    I'd like to think it's worth 8
    Irish market would be 6
    I'll get offers of 3-4 on DD. If at all. Plus have to deal with idiots lowballing

    Mine is half leather and the 525 vs 523. But apart from the milage difference sound similar. I'd think those numbers above are what you'll be looking at (unfortunately).

    Hi. Thanks for input.

    6k is the figure I have in my head alright.

    I also replaced the stupid run flat tyres and put standard tyres on it.

    And then bought an official BMW spare and jack kit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,977 ✭✭✭rocky


    Is it an M Sport?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,856 ✭✭✭obi604


    rocky wrote: »
    Is it an M Sport?

    No, it's an SE.

    (I'm definitely getting abused now)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 296 ✭✭AhHaor


    obi604 wrote: »
    No, it's an SE.

    (I'm definitely getting abused now)

    Mines msport. Is there really that big a difference in value based on the SE vs m sport?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,750 ✭✭✭Avatar MIA


    smash wrote: »
    "big engined"

    :pac:

    I bet that's what he tells his missus.

    OP,

    Is that the abuse you had in mind?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭bmwguy


    I bought an e39 sport 2004 525i automatic in 2013 with not much higher mileage than yours with nct and a month's tax left for the massive sum of 2,400 Euro. Mine 9 years old then, yours 10 years old now, going by registration numbers. Both 2.5 engines with 1080 Euro tax. Yours is an e60 so only 1 generation behind, mine is an e39 which was 2 behind so that might make a difference but that's all it cost me. Now, consumer confidence has risen a bit since 2013 and more people working so there may be a slightly larger market. 95% of people will just see the motor tax figure though and dismiss it. Nice car but loads for sale the low mileage should help you sell but I can't see you walking away with more than 4.5k from this


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,323 ✭✭✭MarkN


    Nature of the beast is everyone thinks their car is worth more than it is. 8K for a 10 year old 5 series? If it was a 535d you might have some chance. You also have others selling your exact car on DD for €4-5,000 which naturally brings the open market price down.

    I got a MINT 325ci last year for €3,000 because nobody wants to pay the tax and the guy just wanted rid of it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭bmwguy


    AhHaor wrote: »
    Mines msport. Is there really that big a difference in value based on the SE vs m sport?

    I would place a higher value on them, I would in fact value msport at a monetary value and the SE at zero because I just would not buy an non sport model in Bmw, the style of the sport is miles ahead in my opinion. I have only ever had sports models. Luckily, not everyone shares my opinion and if you are looking for comfort over style, the SE is the one to have.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    You must already know your price is too enthusiastic if you aren't willing to post it? Bare in mind if you do the same online and post it P.O.A. your ad is dead in the water.

    There's plenty of people on here who can help out you work out a realistic price that would actually sell it.

    Realistically it is a bit undesirable, despite the low mileage so if the price isn't absolutely bang on, you will be sitting on it indefinitely.

    There was comments only yesterday on how 04 e60 petrols were just about into bangernomics money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,480 ✭✭✭YbFocus


    4.5k is a realistic price for the car, expect to settle around 3.8-4k.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭vandriver


    bmwguy wrote: »
    I bought an e39 sport 2004 525i automatic in 2013 with not much higher mileage than yours with nct and a month's tax left for the massive sum of 2,400 Euro. Mine 9 years old then, yours 10 years old now, going by registration numbers. Both 2.5 engines with 1080 Euro tax. Yours is an e60 so only 1 generation behind, mine is an e39 which was 2 behind so that might make a difference but that's all it cost me. Now, consumer confidence has risen a bit since 2013 and more people working so there may be a slightly larger market. 95% of people will just see the motor tax figure though and dismiss it. Nice car but loads for sale the low mileage should help you sell but I can't see you walking away with more than 4.5k from this

    Done deal seems to support your valuation.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 296 ✭✭AhHaor


    vandriver wrote: »
    Done deal seems to support your valuation.

    This could unleash all sorts of do do. But here goes. Thoughts on value of these cars IF renua get on and IF they have enough clout and they get rid of motor tax?

    Do you see an overnight 33 % increase in value in the 1080 to 1490 tax band cars?

    I'm well aware this will never happen. I'm just curious to hear what people think seeing as we've agreed the value is somewhere 3.5 - 5k for the OP car.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭bmwguy


    AhHaor wrote: »
    This could unleash all sorts of do do. But here goes. Thoughts on value of these cars IF renua get on and IF they have enough clout and they get rid of motor tax?

    Do you see an overnight 33 % increase in value in the 1080 to 1490 tax band cars?

    I'm well aware this will never happen. I'm just curious to hear what people think seeing as we've agreed the value is somewhere 3.5 - 5k for the OP car.

    More than 33% I would imagine. 4.5k to 6k would be 33%, no motor tax and I think these cars would increase in value significantly. At that age they are no dearer than a golf, focus, mondeo, astra etc which are much cheaper initially and motor tax is the main reason. Petrol is another problem they are a bit (but not hugely) heavier than others on petrol. I would see the 530d become a sales sensation overnight though. Like the 520d did. For evidence of this, check out the prices of post 08 BMW v pre 08 BMW. Huge price differentials, the only difference being 400 odd Euro in motor tax annually


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,977 ✭✭✭rocky


    obi604 wrote: »
    No, it's an SE.

    (I'm definitely getting abused now)

    Personally I'd pay 2k more for an MSport, although I wouldn't buy an SE in the first place. Other people may differ, but I don't like the normal SE seats for example.

    You mentioned 6k asking? Haven't followed the prices since I got mine 3 years ago, but I would pay that for an MSport, so 4k for an SE for the right buyer :)

    What other extras do you have? cruise, AC came standard I think. Do you really have Nappa leather (I have it, much nicer than Dakota :) )- does that mean you have comfort seats? great extra if so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,258 ✭✭✭sogood


    Bottom line is that your car is worth what someone is prepared to pay for it. And that depends on how much a potential buyer actually wants this actual car. You might be lucky and find a serious buyer who isn't put off by MPG figures and road tax and looks beyond that.

    My barge is a 4 litre because it's what I wanted. The seller was lucky because we were both in the market at the same time. Best of luck with it and I hope you get what it's worth and that it goes to a good home.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,245 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    AhHaor wrote: »
    This could unleash all sorts of do do. But here goes. Thoughts on value of these cars IF renua get on and IF they have enough clout and they get rid of motor tax?
    Being realistic (and not trying to politicise the topic), Renua will not get enough seats (if any) to do anything but eventually be merged back into FG. This motor tax waffle from them is just waffle.

    Even in the hypothetical chance that they did get loads of seats, they may not carry out this change for a number of years. the OP trying to sell their E39 523i is unlikely to wait!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,132 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Do you really have to sell? What's your reason for selling? What were you thinking of buying? Even if suddenly your mileage is increasing (new job, etc.), do yourself a favour and do some realistic sums and think of alternatives

    Realistically you'll get about €4k for your car (provided it has decent NCT left). Maybe a little bit more if it is immaculate, with desirable wheels, etc. depending on other spec, must have PDC. I bought my own '04 E60 auto 520i 2.5 years ago with low miles in excellent condition for €4k myself

    520i is worth a little bit more than a 523i, probably because it has about the same power but a smaller engine (so lower tax). Only in Ireland!

    The 6 cylinder petrol engine lends itself very well to conversion to LPG - uses the space in the boot for the space saver for the LPG tank, so you won't lose any boot space. Did you consider that?

    BTW my car has cost me less than €300 in maintenance over the past 2.5 years (+ part worn tyres + cost of NCT). Contrary to popular belief, these cars do not cost a fortune to own (but don't bring them to BMW to do work either)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,750 ✭✭✭Avatar MIA


    unkel wrote: »

    BTW my car has cost me less than €300 in maintenance over the past 2.5 years (+ part worn tyres + cost of NCT). Contrary to popular belief, these cars do not cost a fortune to own (but don't bring them to BMW to do work either)

    It's all hit and miss. A friend of mine got a 2012 320 and he's had a series of issues.

    A 10 year old car could be pain free, but could also be a money pit waiting to happen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,856 ✭✭✭obi604


    unkel wrote: »
    Do you really have to sell? What's your reason for selling? What were you thinking of buying? Even if suddenly your mileage is increasing (new job, etc.), do yourself a favour and do some realistic sums and think of alternatives

    Realistically you'll get about €4k for your car (provided it has decent NCT left). Maybe a little bit more if it is immaculate, with desirable wheels, etc. depending on other spec, must have PDC. I bought my own '04 E60 auto 520i 2.5 years ago with low miles in excellent condition for €4k myself

    520i is worth a little bit more than a 523i, probably because it has about the same power but a smaller engine (so lower tax). Only in Ireland!

    The 6 cylinder petrol engine lends itself very well to conversion to LPG - uses the space in the boot for the space saver for the LPG tank, so you won't lose any boot space. Did you consider that?

    BTW my car has cost me less than €300 in maintenance over the past 2.5 years (+ part worn tyres + cost of NCT). Contrary to popular belief, these cars do not cost a fortune to own (but don't bring them to BMW to do work either)

    Hi

    I am selling as I don't really need the car anymore. We have a car already and trying to cut costs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭bmwguy


    obi604 wrote: »
    Hi

    I am selling as I don't really need the car anymore. We have a car already and trying to cut costs.

    Can I ask how much you paid for it and how long ago? I am actually looking to trade up from my e39 sport to either an e60 or an x5 but the value on my car is so low I am not letting it go for what I would get for it, it has been super reliable, in great nick and I am afraid of getting a bad one! If you are not buying another car you can let it go for whatever you can get its not as big a problem as using the funds to purchase a replacement. Or your other car may be worth more disposing of and keeping your 523i if that's an option


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,856 ✭✭✭obi604


    bmwguy wrote: »
    Can I ask how much you paid for it and how long ago? I am actually looking to trade up from my e39 sport to either an e60 or an x5 but the value on my car is so low I am not letting it go for what I would get for it, it has been super reliable, in great nick and I am afraid of getting a bad one! If you are not buying another car you can let it go for whatever you can get its not as big a problem as using the funds to purchase a replacement. Or your other car may be worth more disposing of and keeping your 523i if that's an option

    What color jocks are you wearing !! :pac:

    I would not agree with the statement in bold, it should not matter whether I am buying another car or not. I still need to make sums add up. The reason I am selling it is to free up money to do work on the house and I need every penny I can get, so whether its work on the house or buying another car or buying a 80 inch television, it should not matter. I may as well tell you my life story at this stage.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,127 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    op i dont know what the other car you have is, but would it make sense to sell that one instead?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,856 ✭✭✭obi604


    Idbatterim wrote: »
    op i dont know what the other car you have is, but would it make sense to sell that one instead?

    hi, to be honest, no it would not.

    But there comes a day when you just have to try and sell a car (the 523) otherwise, I may as well just hold on to it forever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,132 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    obi604 wrote: »
    But there comes a day when you just have to try and sell a car (the 523) otherwise, I may as well just hold on to it forever.

    Might not be a bad idea. Thousands of people who traded in their older cars for low tax modern new(ish) diesels have suffered financially because of it

    Forgive us for seeming to be nosy (most of us are trying to help), but what is your other car?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 629 ✭✭✭Tommyboy40


    smash wrote: »
    "big engined"

    :pac:

    Sad when a 2.5 is a big engine in this country!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 296 ✭✭AhHaor


    Tommyboy40 wrote: »
    Sad when a 2.5 is a big engine in this country!

    Sad when said engine car tax costs you approximately 4% of average of average salary!


  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Tommyboy40 wrote: »
    Sad when a 2.5 is a big engine in this country!

    Back in the 80s & 90s 1.6 Sierras & Carinas were considered big engined by many when the average family car was a Kadet, Corolla, Escort or Sunny.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 629 ✭✭✭Tommyboy40


    AhHaor wrote: »
    Sad when said engine car tax costs you approximately 4% of average of average salary!

    I tax 2 x 5l and 2 x 2.2l each year. It kills me to spend that much when the money seems to be wasted


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,856 ✭✭✭obi604


    Idbatterim wrote: »
    op i dont know what the other car you have is, but would it make sense to sell that one instead?

    No. Because herself will not touch my automatic with a barge pole.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,062 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    obi604 wrote: »
    No. Because herself will not touch my automatic with a barge pole.

    I'm debating on selling my 2.5 turbo petrol engine car. I was told Charles Hurst might trade it in with a decent price and (I'm told) you could claim some sort of tax back? I haven't looked in to it properly, but it's an option. Selling it North of the border. I've sniffed around and have had half decent offers on trade ins. Maybe the dealers have a market in the North or UK?

    I could be totally incorrect, maybe some trade people could shed some light.

    (best of luck with the sale, some really really nice cars being deemed worthless because they run on clean, refined, pure petrol :mad:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,132 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    obi604 wrote: »
    No. Because herself will not touch my automatic with a barge pole.

    Herself was the same. Loved the manuals. She'd never even driven any automatic car and until I bought the E60. She was not impressed. She obviously had to drive it anyway as it was our only car on the road at the time and now she wouldn't ever want a manual again

    Most people having a go of a decent modern autobox in a decent car would be the same in my experience. Male or female. The E60 is the first 5-series that has sold more autos than manuals. The current model is at least 75% autos I'd say...


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