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ryani air , the first sharia airline

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    #32
    kettlehead
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    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    Given Ireland's disgraceful treatment of its own citizens I don't think we can complain too much. Again, don't fly with them if you dislike Sharia law.

    Are you comparing the treatment of Irish citizens by the current government to Sharia law? Feck me.


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    #33
    Shep_Dog
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    ken wrote: »
    Strangely enough yes they can. The weird bit is they have to have a male relative drive them to the airport.

    Muslim women are allowed to drive in Malaysia.


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    #34
    Ken.
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    Shep_Dog wrote: »
    Muslim women are allowed to drive in Malaysia.

    Yeah, I got mixed up with my countries.


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    #35
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users Posts: 33,048 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    kettlehead wrote: »
    Are you comparing the treatment of Irish citizens by the current government to Sharia law? Feck me.

    He never said "current governmant".

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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    #36
    Shep_Dog
    Closed Accounts Posts: 499 ✭✭Shep_Dog


    ken wrote: »
    Yeah, I got mixed up with my countries.

    Big difference. The Saudis are Wahabi Muslims and the Malaysians mostly Shafi'i..

    It's a bit like confusing Roman Catholics with Presbyterians or Baptists.


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    #37
    ancapailldorcha
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    Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »
    He never said "current governmant".

    Indeed I did not. Thank you for pointing this out.

    Sharia law does not have anything remotely resembling a monopoly on treating people badly.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



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    #38
    CiDeRmAn
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    Dana Stocky Fox wrote: »
    Huge confusion between Saudi Arabia and Malaysia on this thread.

    Suggesting that women are "allowed to drive" in Malaysia is suggesting it's something gifted to them, anyone who holds a licence there can drive, same as here.
    The obnoxious rules around women in some countries has nothing to do with their faith and everything to do with their national culture, which is why you see women oppressed in Hindu, Muslim and Christian countries all over the planet.


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    #39
    ytpe2r5bxkn0c1
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    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    Suggesting that women are "allowed to drive" in Malaysia is suggesting it's something gifted to them, anyone who holds a licence there can drive, same as here.
    The obnoxious rules around women in some countries has nothing to do with their faith and everything to do with their national culture, which is why you see women oppressed in Hindu, Muslim and Christian countries all over the planet.

    What??? I was referring to posters confusing Saudi law with Malaysian law.


    Good luck.


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    #40
    suicide_circus
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    I wonder do they base their safety standards around absurd myths. I imagine they don't.


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    #41
    mynameis905
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    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    Given Ireland's disgraceful treatment of its own citizens I don't think we can complain too much. Again, don't fly with them if you dislike Sharia law.

    Regardless of whether you're talking about current or past governments - what a monumentally stupid thing to say.

    Can you point to any time in our recent history, say the past 200 years where Irish people have been stoned to death, beheaded or had limbs hacked off for transgressing religious laws?


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    #42
    Shannon757
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    I don't see the problem here . Royal Brunei, Saudi Arabian and Iran Air are all enforcing Sharia law and the are the same as Aer Lingus.( Well maybe not Iran Air)


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    #43
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
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    suicide_circus wrote: »
    I wonder do they base their safety standards around absurd myths. I imagine they don't.

    Why would they?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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    #44
    RobertKK
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    It's ok, it is not Al Qaeda air.

    These people know how to land a plane properly.


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    #45
    ancapailldorcha
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    mynameis905 wrote: »
    Regardless of whether you're talking about current or past governments - what a monumentally stupid thing to say.

    Can you point to any time in our recent history, say the past 200 years where Irish people have been stoned to death, beheaded or had limbs hacked off for transgressing religious laws?

    No but I can point to institutionalised child abuse, misogyny, confiscating children from their parents, Magdalene laundries, a mass grave of 800 children in Tuam, workhouses, Mother and Baby homes, Savita and the X case.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



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    #46
    donegaLroad
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    ken wrote: »
    Strangely enough yes they can. The weird bit is they have to have a male relative drive them to the airport.

    Im just wondering how would it work if the pilot was female living under Sharia law, because under Sharia Law an unmarried woman is under the guardianship of her nearest male relative, would this mean that he would have to be in the cockpit with her if her co-pilot was a man?


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    #47
    Nomis21
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    There have been many Themed or Religious transport operations that appeal to a niche market of travelers, but ever since the Christian airline 'Jehovah's Wings' crashed on it's maiden voyage in 1985, transport with a supernatural theme was never going to get popular in Europe


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    #48
    me_irl
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    Always relevant.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eBT6OSr1TI


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    Corpus Twisty
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    donegaLroad wrote: »
    Im just wondering how would it work if the pilot was female living under Sharia law, because under Sharia Law an unmarried woman is under the guardianship of her nearest male relative, would this mean that he would have to be in the cockpit with her if her co-pilot was a man?

    Odd how our wimmins never throw the head over this shyte? I asked the Missus and she goes " jasus, I'd love a hijab - no need to get the war-paint on and have the hair done.." I thought she'd be seriously anti... who could ever figure them out?? :confused:


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    #50
    jackofalltrades
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    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    Given Ireland's disgraceful treatment of its own citizens I don't think we can complain too much. Again, don't fly with them if you dislike Sharia law.
    Our past behaviour is no impediment to pointing out modern day injustices.
    It was criticism of outdated, unjust laws that got them changed.
    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    Sharia law does not have anything remotely resembling a monopoly on treating people badly.
    Yes but at least our legal system is aspirational and trying to get better.
    Sharia law on the other hand is firmly rooted in the past.
    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    No but I can point to institutionalised child abuse, misogyny, confiscating children from their parents, Magdalene laundries, a mass grave of 800 children in Tuam, workhouses, Mother and Baby homes, Savita and the X case.
    And how many of those are issues today.
    The last one was solved by the current government.
    Has there been any significant advancements in Sharia law in the mean time?


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    #51
    Shep_Dog
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    Here's a review of the inaugural flight from Kuala Lumpur to Langkawi

    The name derives from that of its founders, who guessing from their ethnic Indian names, are not Muslims, but astute business people operating in a predominantly Muslim market.

    There's free snacks, hot food for purchase and souvenirs on offer.


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    #52
    feargale
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    Nomis21 wrote: »
    There have been many Themed or Religious transport operations that appeal to a niche market of travelers, but ever since the Christian airline 'Jehovah's Wings' crashed on it's maiden voyage in 1985, transport with a supernatural theme was never going to get popular in Europe

    Bad choice of name. They should have called themselves "Flying Witnesses."


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    #53
    humanji
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    jackofalltrades wrote: »
    And how many of those are issues today.
    The last one was solved by the current government.
    Has there been any significant advancements in Sharia law in the mean time?
    Like women being elected for the first time in Saudi Arabia?


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    #54
    jackofalltrades
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    humanji wrote: »
    Like women being elected for the first time in Saudi Arabia?
    That change came about based on a decision by late Saudi King Abdullah bin Abdulaziz al-Saud.
    Can you show that it was based on a change in Sharia law?


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    #55
    The Randy Riverbeast
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    jackofalltrades wrote: »
    That change came about based on a decision by late Saudi King Abdullah bin Abdulaziz al-Saud.
    Can you show that it was based on a change in Sharia law?

    Unless the quran rewrites itself how can sharia law change?

    Any change in laws are based on people's decisions.


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    #56
    golfball37
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    donegaLroad wrote: »
    Can the pilot be a wonan?

    Would you trust one landing a plane with a Burka on?


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    #57
    feargale
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    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    No but I can point to institutionalised child abuse, misogyny, confiscating children from their parents, Magdalene laundries, a mass grave of 800 children in Tuam, workhouses, Mother and Baby homes, Savita and the X case.

    Indeed, all of these terrible things did happen. I guess Sharia and Islamic fundamentalism are ok then, and we shouldn't complain. Huh?


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    #58
    humanji
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    jackofalltrades wrote: »
    That change came about based on a decision by late Saudi King Abdullah bin Abdulaziz al-Saud.
    Can you show that it was based on a change in Sharia law?
    Modern law superseeded previous law. That's how it changed. That's how it works.
    feargale wrote: »
    Indeed, all of these terrible things did happen. I guess Sharia and Islamic fundamentalism are ok then, and we shouldn't complain.
    The point you're pretending to miss is that you can condemn both, but you can't condemn one while pretending the other didn't happen.


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    #59
    jackofalltrades
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    humanji wrote: »
    Modern law superseeded previous law. That's how it changed. That's how it works.
    So women being elected is Saudi Arabi has nothing to do with advancements in Sharia law, just as I thought.
    The point you're pretending to miss is that you can condemn both, but you can't condemn one while pretending the other didn't happen.
    Care to point out all the posters who are doing this?


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    #60
    Azrel
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    Why do we need to mix religion with air travel at all? The only time this ever worked is that hilarious Father Ted episode.


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    #61
    Shep_Dog
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    golfball37 wrote: »
    Would you trust one landing a plane with a Burka on?
    Malaysian Muslim women do not wear burkas.


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