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ryani air , the first sharia airline

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    What kind of coffee was it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    saw this and almost choked on my coffee

    Reading the Daily Flail will do that to you


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    It's Rayani, not Ryani.

    It doesn't even sound like Ryan.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭donegaLroad


    Can the pilot be a wonan?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    I don't have a problem with it. I wouldn't have much confidence in an airline that makes it a point to say a prayer before takeoff. Kind of sends a message of no confidence.


    I wonder will they have problems finding male hosting staff. "We've had plenty of applications.. They're just not quite, halal".


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,762 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    saw this and almost choked on my coffee ..apart from the obvious name play on ryanair .. do you think michael o leary will be impressed ?

    Female staff in hijabs, prayers before take-off and no alcohol: Muslims climb aboard Malaysia's first Shariah-compliant airline
    Staff on Rayani Air flights adhere to strict rules in line with Shariah law
    Meals are 100 per cent halal and alcohol is forbidden on all flights
    UK-based Firnas Airways is planning to offer similar flights next year


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-3368634/Female-staff-hijabs-prayers-no-alcohol-Muslims-climb-aboard-Malaysia-s-Shariah-compliant-airline.html#ixzz3uyt65iSy

    Don't see the fuss.

    Rarely drink on flights, don't objetc to the occasinal halal meal, and recently flew with Qatar air where the flight attendand unifrom included a headwear.

    Nothing new, just the Daily Mail tyring to wind up vulnerable readers again (and get them to post on internet forms.... :D)

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭Agricola


    Definitely wouldnt chance bringing an oversized cabin bag with this crowd.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,398 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    Fully expect to see an ad of O' Leary sh!tting all over their beliefs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,644 ✭✭✭cml387


    ScumLord wrote: »
    I don't have a problem with it. I wouldn't have much confidence in an airline that makes it a point to say a prayer before takeoff. Kind of sends a message of no confidence.


    I wonder will they have problems finding male hosting staff. "We've had plenty of applications.. They're just not quite, halal".

    I think all Saudi airlines flights commence with a prayer, so that wouldn't be unusual.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 23,211 ✭✭✭✭beertons


    Will they play that tune when they land?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,762 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Here - can anyone else find any non-Mail article about this Ryanai company? I'm finding nothing and begining wonder if it's a hoax.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    ScumLord wrote: »
    I don't have a problem with it. I wouldn't have much confidence in an airline that makes it a point to say a prayer before takeoff. Kind of sends a message of no confidence.

    Praying before takeoff and clapping after landing amount to the same thing really

    Please don't and thanks for not killing us all


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,549 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    What's the problem? Nobody is going to make you fly with them.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Praying before takeoff and clapping after landing amount to the same thing really

    Please don't and thanks for not killing us all
    I've only really noticed clapping when landing on holiday flights. You don't get many clapping on a midweek flight to london.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    ScumLord wrote: »
    I've only really noticed clapping when landing on holiday flights. You don't get many clapping on a midweek flight to london.

    The Germans love a good clap after their flight lands

    I've also seen it on flights from Ireland to Britain a fair bit tbh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 185 ✭✭skepticalone


    What's the problem? Nobody is going to make you fly with them.



    the problem for me , is that I find the whole concept of sharia law distasteful , I think its a step backwards for malaysia ( bear in mind I have lived in malaysia myself )


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,764 ✭✭✭my3cents


    Here - can anyone else find any non-Mail article about this Ryanai company? I'm finding nothing and begining wonder if it's a hoax.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rayani_Air


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,770 ✭✭✭The Randy Riverbeast


    I'm not religious but even I would be praying before a Malaysian flight.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Here - can anyone else find any non-Mail article about this Ryanai company? I'm finding nothing and begining wonder if it's a hoax.
    Less sensational article here

    It's for pilgrims apparently, you wouldn't expect people going to Lough Derg to be escorted by Club Med reps.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,549 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    the problem for me , is that I find the whole concept of sharia law distasteful , I think its a step backwards for malaysia ( bear in mind I have lived in malaysia myself )

    Given Ireland's disgraceful treatment of its own citizens I don't think we can complain too much. Again, don't fly with them if you dislike Sharia law.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,003 ✭✭✭Hammer89


    beertons wrote: »
    Will they play that tune when they land?

    Land?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    I'm not religious but even I would be praying before a Malaysian flight.

    There are no atheists in foxholes the Indian Ocean


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 415 ✭✭Alexis Sanchez


    I wonder if the men are allowed to beat their wives on these flights for being disobedient?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,003 ✭✭✭Hammer89


    Also, Irish people should avoid these type of flights because they'll realise just how sh*t their beard is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 499 ✭✭Shep_Dog


    saw this and almost choked on my coffee
    shock-horror: you go to a predominantly Muslim country, take an internal flight from one part of that country to another and the Muslim staff dress according to their tradition and courteously serve delicious Muslim-acceptable food to you. That's awful. Like going on a charter to Lourdes and complaining about having to put up with nuns and rosaries.....

    Business is business. The airline is probably trying to differentiate itself from more secular airlines in the region.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,511 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    ScumLord wrote: »
    I've only really noticed clapping when landing on holiday flights. You don't get many clapping on a midweek flight to london.

    Don't even think you get the clap on holidays now either.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,898 ✭✭✭✭Ken.


    Can the pilot be a wonan?

    Strangely enough yes they can. The weird bit is they have to have a male relative drive them to the airport.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,987 ✭✭✭mikeym


    For the right price I would fly with them.

    Do they sell scratchcards????


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Huge confusion between Saudi Arabia and Malaysia on this thread.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,294 ✭✭✭thee glitz


    ken wrote: »
    Strangely enough yes they can. The weird bit is they have to have a male relative drive them to the airport.

    Do they have the headgear on while flying?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 414 ✭✭kettlehead


    Given Ireland's disgraceful treatment of its own citizens I don't think we can complain too much. Again, don't fly with them if you dislike Sharia law.

    Are you comparing the treatment of Irish citizens by the current government to Sharia law? Feck me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 499 ✭✭Shep_Dog


    ken wrote: »
    Strangely enough yes they can. The weird bit is they have to have a male relative drive them to the airport.

    Muslim women are allowed to drive in Malaysia.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,898 ✭✭✭✭Ken.


    Shep_Dog wrote: »
    Muslim women are allowed to drive in Malaysia.

    Yeah, I got mixed up with my countries.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,762 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    kettlehead wrote: »
    Are you comparing the treatment of Irish citizens by the current government to Sharia law? Feck me.

    He never said "current governmant".

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 499 ✭✭Shep_Dog


    ken wrote: »
    Yeah, I got mixed up with my countries.

    Big difference. The Saudis are Wahabi Muslims and the Malaysians mostly Shafi'i..

    It's a bit like confusing Roman Catholics with Presbyterians or Baptists.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,549 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    He never said "current governmant".

    Indeed I did not. Thank you for pointing this out.

    Sharia law does not have anything remotely resembling a monopoly on treating people badly.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,679 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Huge confusion between Saudi Arabia and Malaysia on this thread.

    Suggesting that women are "allowed to drive" in Malaysia is suggesting it's something gifted to them, anyone who holds a licence there can drive, same as here.
    The obnoxious rules around women in some countries has nothing to do with their faith and everything to do with their national culture, which is why you see women oppressed in Hindu, Muslim and Christian countries all over the planet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    Suggesting that women are "allowed to drive" in Malaysia is suggesting it's something gifted to them, anyone who holds a licence there can drive, same as here.
    The obnoxious rules around women in some countries has nothing to do with their faith and everything to do with their national culture, which is why you see women oppressed in Hindu, Muslim and Christian countries all over the planet.

    What??? I was referring to posters confusing Saudi law with Malaysian law.


    Good luck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    I wonder do they base their safety standards around absurd myths. I imagine they don't.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 754 ✭✭✭mynameis905


    Given Ireland's disgraceful treatment of its own citizens I don't think we can complain too much. Again, don't fly with them if you dislike Sharia law.

    Regardless of whether you're talking about current or past governments - what a monumentally stupid thing to say.

    Can you point to any time in our recent history, say the past 200 years where Irish people have been stoned to death, beheaded or had limbs hacked off for transgressing religious laws?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭Shannon757


    I don't see the problem here . Royal Brunei, Saudi Arabian and Iran Air are all enforcing Sharia law and the are the same as Aer Lingus.( Well maybe not Iran Air)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,762 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    I wonder do they base their safety standards around absurd myths. I imagine they don't.

    Why would they?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,761 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    It's ok, it is not Al Qaeda air.

    These people know how to land a plane properly.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,549 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Regardless of whether you're talking about current or past governments - what a monumentally stupid thing to say.

    Can you point to any time in our recent history, say the past 200 years where Irish people have been stoned to death, beheaded or had limbs hacked off for transgressing religious laws?

    No but I can point to institutionalised child abuse, misogyny, confiscating children from their parents, Magdalene laundries, a mass grave of 800 children in Tuam, workhouses, Mother and Baby homes, Savita and the X case.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭donegaLroad


    ken wrote: »
    Strangely enough yes they can. The weird bit is they have to have a male relative drive them to the airport.

    Im just wondering how would it work if the pilot was female living under Sharia law, because under Sharia Law an unmarried woman is under the guardianship of her nearest male relative, would this mean that he would have to be in the cockpit with her if her co-pilot was a man?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,409 ✭✭✭Nomis21


    There have been many Themed or Religious transport operations that appeal to a niche market of travelers, but ever since the Christian airline 'Jehovah's Wings' crashed on it's maiden voyage in 1985, transport with a supernatural theme was never going to get popular in Europe


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,400 ✭✭✭me_irl




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 396 ✭✭Corpus Twisty


    Im just wondering how would it work if the pilot was female living under Sharia law, because under Sharia Law an unmarried woman is under the guardianship of her nearest male relative, would this mean that he would have to be in the cockpit with her if her co-pilot was a man?

    Odd how our wimmins never throw the head over this shyte? I asked the Missus and she goes " jasus, I'd love a hijab - no need to get the war-paint on and have the hair done.." I thought she'd be seriously anti... who could ever figure them out?? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,253 ✭✭✭jackofalltrades


    Given Ireland's disgraceful treatment of its own citizens I don't think we can complain too much. Again, don't fly with them if you dislike Sharia law.
    Our past behaviour is no impediment to pointing out modern day injustices.
    It was criticism of outdated, unjust laws that got them changed.
    Sharia law does not have anything remotely resembling a monopoly on treating people badly.
    Yes but at least our legal system is aspirational and trying to get better.
    Sharia law on the other hand is firmly rooted in the past.
    No but I can point to institutionalised child abuse, misogyny, confiscating children from their parents, Magdalene laundries, a mass grave of 800 children in Tuam, workhouses, Mother and Baby homes, Savita and the X case.
    And how many of those are issues today.
    The last one was solved by the current government.
    Has there been any significant advancements in Sharia law in the mean time?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 499 ✭✭Shep_Dog


    Here's a review of the inaugural flight from Kuala Lumpur to Langkawi

    The name derives from that of its founders, who guessing from their ethnic Indian names, are not Muslims, but astute business people operating in a predominantly Muslim market.

    There's free snacks, hot food for purchase and souvenirs on offer.


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