Is tipping now expected in Ireland?

uck51js9zml2yt

I very rarely tip and only then in restaurants were I might give a few euro

My thinking is that they are doing a job for which they are paid, just like I work and get paid. In that case there is no need for a tip.

John_Rambo

From Dublin, so yeah, I tip. Dining - 10% to 15%, taxi - round up ONLY if they're pleasant and the cars clean. Barber - €1 to €2. I might leave the odd 50c on a bar.

If I'm not happy - no tip.

MRnotlob606

Aongus Von Bismarck

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Please tell us you are indeed German.
Surely only a German could have 'specifications' for his haircut ?

(thats worse even than Sheldon Cooper and his hair cut records, and he is fictional).

Some people are happy to get an €8 haircut. I don't judge them. I will say that you can spot the signs of an €8 haircut from a kilometre away.

I'm willing to pay a little bit extra. I'm also prepared to tip for my haircut.

EuropeanSon

Mr.S wrote: »

Only for:

Restaurants - (10% for "standard" restaurants, higher if more it's a more expensive place / better service)

Taxis (usually 10%, Hailo makes it easy~)

Takeaway - try and give 2euro each time to the driver

Everything else, I don't bother with. I'm not sure why I tip taxis, no logic to it.

Why tip a higher% in a fancier place? The higher cost of the meal means the tip is going to be higher than normal anyway, that's why it's a %

Fluorescence

As someone who's worked in a variety of retail and hospitality jobs, I can say that waiting tables is a far, far more personalised service than serving you in a shop. You need to be attuned to your customers' needs at every table, making sure they're not waiting around to order, get drinks, their food arrives promptly, etc. You need a good knowledge of everything your restaurant serves to give recommendations, if you're in any sort of touristy spot you need excellent knowledge of the locality to give directions and suggestions of things to do on holiday. And on top of all that you need to be congenial and accommodating.

As for tip amounts, it varies wildly. You could spend ages with a table making recommendations and explaining different meals and get feic all tip, and sometimes you might hardly get a chance to look after your table and they'd leave a generous tip. So I don't find the tip matches the service at all, and it wouldn't incentivise me to work more/less to get a greater/lesser tip.

However I do get very judgemental of wait staff when I'm out in a restaurant with friends/family. Even if they're crap I'd leave a half decent tip cause I know how tough it can be, but if they're good I'd leave a really nice tip (25%+) because I know what merits a decent tip.

As for other professions, I'll tip a takeaway driver if there's no deliver charge, never really tip a hairdresser cause I've yet to have a good experience with one, and I'll usually tell the taxi driver to keep the change. It's a tough ol' world out there. No need to add to it by being a miser!

EagererBeaver

Fluorescence wrote: »

As someone who's worked in a variety of retail and hospitality jobs, I can say that waiting tables is a far, far more personalised service than serving you in a shop. You need to be attuned to your customers' needs at every table, making sure they're not waiting around to order, get drinks, their food arrives promptly, etc. You need a good knowledge of everything your restaurant serves to give recommendations, if you're in any sort of touristy spot you need excellent knowledge of the locality to give directions and suggestions of things to do on holiday. And on top of all that you need to be congenial and accommodating.

As for tip amounts, it varies wildly. You could spend ages with a table making recommendations and explaining different meals and get feic all tip, and sometimes you might hardly get a chance to look after your table and they'd leave a generous tip. So I don't find the tip matches the service at all, and it wouldn't incentivise me to work more/less to get a greater/lesser tip.

However I do get very judgemental of wait staff when I'm out in a restaurant with friends/family. Even if they're crap I'd leave a half decent tip cause I know how tough it can be, but if they're good I'd leave a really nice tip (25%+) because I know what merits a decent tip.

As for other professions, I'll tip a takeaway driver if there's no deliver charge, never really tip a hairdresser cause I've yet to have a good experience with one, and I'll usually tell the taxi driver to keep the change. It's a tough ol' world out there. No need to add to it by being a miser!

This is what I don't get. Say they're on minimum wage and earn the same as Vlad working the night shift in the Eurospar round the corner. They provide a **** service - why would you tip them?!

Fluorescence

EagererBeaver wrote: »

This is what I don't get. Say they're on minimum wage and earn the same as Vlad working the night shift in the Eurospar round the corner. They provide a **** service - why would you tip them?!

Cause even the crappest waiter is providing a more personalised service to you than most shop staff. Some shop staff go above and beyond and really help you out, and I always try to tell the manager or write in some praise if they have, but generally, waiting is more work per customer.

bloominballix

Usually always tip delivery drivers and taxis (hailo is a godsend here).

Always unsure with barbers, especially if it's an elderly gentleman. Always feels a bit patronizing handing over 2 quid. I usually don't tip here.

J Mysterio

John_Rambo wrote: »

From Dublin, so yeah, I tip.

Wtf!

rubadub

rubadub wrote: »

Some restaurants have banned tipping, and have notes on the menu along the lines of "please do not tip, we actually pay the staff a reasonable wage already and they are aware of our policy"

And when a restaurant does that in Ireland it'll be very popular. i think a lot of people who tip do so begrudgingly (i know lots of people who think along the lines of "I could have got X or Y with the money i tipped" - and i admit this is my line of thinking sometimes too).

A restaurant giving people a reason to not tip would go over well, in my opinion. (but thats just me).

EagererBeaver

Fluorescence wrote: »

Cause even the crappest waiter is providing a more personalised service to you than most shop staff. Some shop staff go above and beyond and really help you out, and I always try to tell the manager or write in some praise if they have, but generally, waiting is more work per customer.

I disagree but fair enough. I've had plenty of service where there's nothing personal about it. Even if it was though, why tip for a more personal service if that service is ****e?

The Rape of Lucretia

Fluorescence wrote: »

Cause even the crappest waiter is providing a more personalised service to you than most shop staff. Some shop staff go above and beyond and really help you out, and I always try to tell the manager or write in some praise if they have, but generally, waiting is more work per customer.

If the personalised element of the service is important then it would be built into the pay. If they pay isnt high enough in the first place, it shows people dont place as much mass on the personal element as the service provider thinks they do.

And.
What about the vaste majority of jobs that arent personalised. Why are they being victimised and left tipless ? Should those receiving tips share them with the rest of the working world ? In the interest of fairness and equality.

kettlehead

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

I get a wash and condition with a premium shampoo and conditioner. A fantastic haircut by a true professional that is exactly to my specifications. He's a genuinely nice man to boot. I enjoy his company. This is followed up by a hair tonic, head and neck massage, and my choice of styling product.

It's very much worth it. I've a customer facing role, and a good haircut is part of the package I present to our clients.

I'd say that you have a head on you like a bag of Lego.

Kia_Kaha

Lads lads lads!

What's a tip ?

Regards,

All of Cavan

mfceiling

Barber gets 3 quid from me every time. 12 quid for a cut and I give him/her 15. It's the most enjoyable bit of peace and quiet I get every 6 weeks or so and it's worth it for me.

anothernight

Fluorescence wrote: »

Cause even the crappest waiter is providing a more personalised service to you than most shop staff. Some shop staff go above and beyond and really help you out, and I always try to tell the manager or write in some praise if they have, but generally, waiting is more work per customer.

I'm currently a part time waitress. I appreciate a tip, but I'd never expect someone to give me one, and much less for bad service. I work for a wage, not for tips.
Likewise, I will never tip for bad service. If a tip is automatically added onto my bill and the service wasn't good, I will request that the tip is removed.

Waitressing might be a personalised service, but so are many other jobs out there where tips aren't really a thing. It's also not exactly a difficult job so I think the wages match the work reasonably well tbh.

darkpagandeath

Do strippers count ?

EagererBeaver

anothernight wrote: »

I'm currently a part time waitress. I appreciate a tip, but I'd never expect someone to give me one, and much less for bad service. I work for a wage, not for tips.
Likewise, I will never tip for bad service. If a tip is automatically added onto my bill and the service wasn't good, I will request that the tip is removed.

Waitressing might be a personalised service, but so are many other jobs out there where tips aren't really a thing. It's also not exactly a difficult job so I think the wages match the work reasonably well tbh.

Ah, auto-adding of a service charge is a whole other level of **** off. I HATE that and have absolutely no qualms contesting it if I feel it's not worth it.

The Backwards Man

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Do strippers count ?

Try shortchanging one and you'll find out.

worded

Good tip
Don't keep light bulbs in your back pocket

rubadub

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Nope it's an American Idea topping up waiter/waitress salary due to being paid nothing. We have minimum wage and labour laws here absolutely no need.

I was saying the US also have such laws for a few years now, so they do get normal min wage, but I bet the traditionally tipped staff keep well quiet about that though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tipped_wage_in_the_United_States

Federal law
The American federal government requires a wage of at least $2.13 per hour be paid to employees that receive at least $30 per month in tips.[4] If wages and tips do not equal the federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour during any pay period, the employer is required to increase cash wages to compensate. As of May 2012, the average hourly wage – including tips – for a restaurant employee in the United States that received tip income was $11.82

I am surprised its not made illegal in more places, like how its illegal to tip government officials in some places.

MyStubbleItches

Hotel housekeeping staff who do a good job. Will always leave 10-15 quid for them.

The Backwards Man

MyStubbleItches wrote: »

Hotel housekeeping staff who do a good job. Will always leave 10-15 quid for them.

Yep, that's one I always look after too. A tenner a day at least. Housekeeping staff are actually paid pretty well in a lot of places, but still and all, it's about the most shitty job anyone has to do, clean up after people when they are at their worst

ArtSmart

Cow tipping?

Yes, AFAIK.

uck51js9zml2yt

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Yep, that's one I always look after too. A tenner a day at least. Housekeeping staff are actually paid pretty well in a lot of places, but still and all, it's about the most shitty job anyone has to do, clean up after people when they are at their worst

Have a friend who worked in a hotel for years. The supervisors normally do a check on the rooms before housekeeping do them upon checkout. They take the money.

If your lucky with a cleaner getting there first, it might not be the one who did your room all week, she may have a day off.

ArtSmart

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Do strippers count ?

You saying entertainers can't use a calculator?

Welll, I suppose Tubs might have difficulty, but otherwise...

The Backwards Man

Guillermo Muscular Theater wrote: »

Have a friend who worked in a hotel for years. The supervisors normally do a check on the rooms before housekeeping do them upon checkout. They take the money.

If your lucky with a cleaner getting there first, it might not be the one who did your room all week, she may have a day off.

You leave the money there every day you're staying there, with a note saying 'HOUSEKEEPING!!!!:)'

Smile optional.

Be sure to leave it on the actual bed though, I've heard that leaving it on the pillow is supposed to intimate negative connotations.

Minderbinder

I can definitely get on board with tipping a barber. I think a lot of Irish men don't know what a good haircut is so they mock someone who pays a premium price. I had an excellent barber when I was abroad and I'd love some recommendations for good barbers in Ireland. Perhaps there isn't a great demand for more expensive barbers here and that's why they're difficult to come across.

Anyway, I still don't understand this tipping for tipping's sake. People are just caught up in a fear of looking cheap that they'd rather throw their money away than upset a waiter. Someone said he tips 10% because it's and incentive. Not if you always tip 10%! And that's what is happening now . Everyone is tipping in and around the same amount and it's rewarding slackers.

MyStubbleItches

Guillermo Muscular Theater wrote: »

Have a friend who worked in a hotel for years. The supervisors normally do a check on the rooms before housekeeping do them upon checkout. They take the money.

If your lucky with a cleaner getting there first, it might not be the one who did your room all week, she may have a day off.

Didn't think of that. Fúckers. Will try to hand it directly in future. Problem is, you rarely see the good ones. You head out for whatever reason and when you come back the room is immaculate again.