UFC 194: McGregor vs Aldo ***READ POST #1 BEFORE POSTING***

KERSPLAT!

OK, the fight tonight is a big sporting event so we've decided to allow a thread on it after receiving some requests. The same as we do for the Euros, WC, Rugby WC, etc. Please read the mod note below.

Mod note:

1) Usual After Hours charter still applies

2) No allegations against fighters, particularly regarding steroid usage, etc

3) No illegal streams or requests for streams

4) No talking about Conor's accent. It's boring and has been done to death

5) No fighter bashing. Opinions welcome, bashing not

6) No eye gouging, fish-hooking or small joint manipulation. Groin shots are frowned upon

Thanks to Nicolas Cage for drawing them up.

I'll be napping between 12-3am so go easy!!

Also, Conor will be fighting sometime from 5am. Prelims begin at 12am, main card from 3am. For more info, see this post

kneemos

Hmmm.

NachoBusiness

Have McGregor @ 7/4 to win by KO, TKO or DQ.

I'll most likely fall asleep waiting for it to start though.

If I do, someone PM me and wake me up. Cheers.

Jim Bob Scratcher

I hope Aldo knocks him out with a nice hard knee to the face

winston82

Jim Bob Scratcher wrote: »

I hope Aldo knocks him out with a nice hard knee to the face

I think everyone does by the looks of it

Junkyard Tom

Jim Bob Scratcher wrote: »

I hope Aldo knocks him out with a nice hard knee to the face

3 posts in and the self-loathing rears its ugly little head.

winston82 wrote: »

I think everyone does by the looks of it

Nah. The vast majority of normal people want to see their fellow Irish compatriots do well.

Nodin

winston82 wrote: »

I think everyone does by the looks of it

I doubt it, though McGregor losing would seem to be the most probable outcome, punchers chance excepted.

NachoBusiness

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfSAXxtw0V8

Fleawuss

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

3 posts in and the self-loathing rears its ugly little head.



Nah. The vast majority of normal people want to see their fellow Irish compatriots do well.

No self loathing at all. Just find the posturing and such insufferable. Aldo probably isn't any better but I've heard and seen less of him. I think McGregor has been positioned as interim champion to exploit publicity and draw in Irish supporters. It's a cynical game: maybe he has to run his mouth off to pay his dues to the powers that be but I'm sick of him.

Fleawuss

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

3 posts in and the self-loathing rears its ugly little head.



Nah. The vast majority of normal people (normal people meaning people who think about things the way I do) want to see their fellow Irish compatriots do well.

FYP. If it was an international competition most people probably would support someone representing the country regardless of how they thought about them. This isn't an international competition. It's a match between two pros.

Turtyturd

Aldo all the way hopefully. There's nothing more enjoyable than seeing a mouthy sh!t being put in their place no matter what country they come from.

S'up Chael Sonnen?

Makood

Fleawuss wrote: »

FYP. If it was an international competition most people probably would support someone representing the country regardless of how they thought about them. This isn't an international competition. It's a match between two pros.

I hope Aldridge knocks his D4 head off.

kettlehead

The heart says McGregor but the head says Aldo. Should be an amazing fight regardless.

Jim Bob Scratcher

Fleawuss wrote: »

No self loathing at all. Just find the posturing and such insufferable. Aldo probably isn't any better but I've heard and seen less of him. I think McGregor has been positioned as interim champion to exploit publicity and draw in Irish supporters. It's a cynical game: maybe he has to run his mouth off to pay his dues to the powers that be but I'm sick of him.

Agreed, the guy is arrogant motormouth who needs to be knocked down a peg or 2. If McGregor was an English UFC fighter, I can confidently say that the majority of people on here wouldn't be able to stand him.

Lights On

Hopefully it lasts a bit longer than Mendes & Frankie did last night. Would love to see this go the distance and be a proper war!

kettlehead

Makood wrote: »

I hope Aldridge knocks his D4 head off.

Crumlin is D4 now? Are you an estate agent?

NachoBusiness

Fleawuss wrote: »

Just find the posturing and such insufferable.

If it wasn't for him posturing and "running his mouth" he never would have been given the chances that he was.

Many fighters down the years have adopted the same approach in an attempt to get the media to put pressure on a successful fighter to fight and up and coming one.

He had a goal, went for it and has become what he has, primarily as a result of hard work and good on him for that.

Hope he wins tonight.

Jim Bob Scratcher

mulbot wrote: »

Can I ask if you're American?

My great great grandfather was Irish.

kettlehead

Jim Bob Scratcher wrote: »

Agreed, the guy is arrogant motormouth who needs to be knocked down a peg or 2. If McGregor was an English UFC fighter, I can confidently say that the majority of people on here wouldn't be able to stand him.

He's a bit of a coooont but he's our coooont.

Makood

kettlehead wrote: »

Crumlin is D4 now? Are you an estate agent?

Ahhh, baited :

I can relax now

Azrel

I think Aldo will win.

The Backwards Man

The team that scores the most goals will win.

Fleawuss

NachoBusiness wrote: »

If it wasn't for him posturing and "running his mouth" he never would have been given the chances that he was.

Many fighters down the years have adopted the same approach to get the media to put pressure on fighter to fight up and coming fighters.

He had a goal, went for it and has become what he has primarily as a result of hard work and good on him for it.

Hope he wins tonight.

Ya and I posted why I thought the mouth was done too. I don't resent him the bit of success he has had, sport for me is about finding out the limits of abilities and character and planning: he acts like he is the greatest fighter the world has ever seen. Let's find out.

Jim Bob Scratcher

Junkyard Tom

Fleawuss wrote: »

I'm sick of him.

I don't particularly like that show about the Kardashians and I've figured out an amazing method of not letting it annoy me. I don't watch it.

Get a life.

Fleawuss

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

I don't particularly like that show about the Kardashians and I've figured out an amazing method of not letting it annoy me. I don't watch it.

Get a life.

By the logic here if she was Irish you're obliged to support her or be considered abnormal.

Your insult game hasn't sunk as low as McGregor I'll give you that much.

Son Of A Vidic

winston82 wrote: »

I think everyone does by the looks of it

You've asked everyone then?

Ash.J.Williams

Fleawuss wrote: »

By the logic here if she was Irish you're obliged to support her or be considered abnormal.

Your insult game hasn't sunk as low as McGregor I'll give you that much.

What has she got to do with this subject matter?

DEFTLEFTHAND

Good luck tonight san.

Son Of A Vidic

NachoBusiness wrote: »

If it wasn't for him posturing and "running his mouth" he never would have been given the chances that he was.

Many fighters down the years have adopted the same approach in an attempt to get the media to put pressure on a successful fighter to fight and up and coming one.

He had a goal, went for it and has become what he has, primarily as a result of hard work and good on him for that.

Hope he wins tonight.

It's pretty rare that someone can talk the talk and then walk the walk and McGregor has done it with aplomb so far. Like any sportsman or woman that competes under an Irish flag, McGregor will always have my full support.

ziggy

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Galwayguy35

RTE are useless that they don't show this fight, I wonder sometimes what we pay €160 a year for.

Mr. CooL ICE

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

RTE are useless that they don't show this fight, I wonder sometimes what we pay €160 a year for.

They're not useless in this context. The PPV for this is €17.99. No way would it be worth RTE's while to pay whatever cost the UFC would be asking.

Bulbous Salutation

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

RTE are useless that they don't show this fight, I wonder sometimes what we pay €160 a year for.

Yes, showing a niche sporting event involving men kicking each other in the head at 5am in the morning would be a measured and balanced use of the licence fee.

Lights On

Bulbous Salutation wrote: »

Yes, showing a niche sporting event involving men kicking each other in the head at 5am in the morning would be a measured and balanced use of the licence fee.

Niche? That'd be a bit of a stretch. It's one of the biggest sports in the world, arguably bigger than boxing right now.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Lights On wrote: »

Niche? That'd be a bit of a stretch. It's one of the biggest sports in the world, arguably bigger than boxing right now.

Well for starts the UFC is a promotion and not a sport.

MMA as a sport is tiny.

The audience for events like tonight are big enough, but for MMA events as a whole the audience is tiny with local clubs struggling to sell tickets for their events.

Seven years ago when CmG made his pro debut against Gary Morris we struggled to sell tickets for the show.

Rising Irish MMA stars are still struggling to sell tickets .

MMA is a tiny sport & only the very top guys get a decent following.

take everything

Turtyturd wrote: »

Aldo all the way hopefully. There's nothing more enjoyable than seeing a mouthy sh!t being put in their place no matter what country they come from.

S'up Chael Sonnen?

That's the appeal of McGregor.
People who dislike him will watch to see him get beaten.
People who like him will do so for the opposite reason.
He's polarising and, MMA shenanigans aside, at least interesting.

Will be a fascinating fight nonetheless.
Not least because I have no idea who will win.

BenedrylPete

I managed to avoid the result of mayweather pacquiao by staying in my room and wearing a box on my head.

Will be trying same for this. Takes effort and luck.

jimmii

Lights On wrote: »

Niche? That'd be a bit of a stretch. It's one of the biggest sports in the world, arguably bigger than boxing right now.

Now that is a bit of a stretch in fairness! From a participation pov its obviously not even in the top 100 sports played and the viewing numbers probably don't put it in the top 20 sports. I don't like boxing at all but there really isn't much of a case you can make for MMA being bigger the viewing numbers for that shocking Fury v Klitchko fight really prove that why anyone would pay for that I don't know but tonight will likely see only around 1/10th the amount of people watching it and this is being billed as the biggest event in the sport ever.

Lights On

Salma Powerful Root wrote: »

Well for starts the UFC is a promotion and not a sport.

MMA as a sport is tiny.

The audience for events like tonight are big enough, but for MMA events as a whole the audience is tiny with local clubs struggling to sell tickets for their events.

Seven years ago when CmG made his pro debut against Gary Morris we struggled to sell tickets for the show.

Rising Irish MMA stars are still struggling to sell tickets .

MMA is a tiny sport & only the very top guys get a decent following.

Yeah, clearly UFC isn't a sport, I've been watching it for years so give me a bit of credit

But in every sport you're not going to be selling out events and generating buzz at the lower levels, just have to take a look at crowds for low level boxing, rugby, football and closer to home GAA. They are never going to be generating a buzz until they get to the bigger stages.

Very rarely will someone get a following until they get to that main stage whatever they do, so MMA wouldn't be unique in that aspect. Though I would agree at ground level it is still quite small over this side of the world more so than other places.

take everything

Jim Bob Scratcher wrote: »

Actually having watched that with borderline racist taunts, I wouldn't mind seeing Aldo winning.

Should be good either way.

darkpagandeath

Seems a little Waycist...

recylingbin

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

RTE are useless that they don't show this fight, I wonder sometimes what we pay €160 a year for.

I'd imagine that most people who are interested in this type of thing don't pay a TV licence.

Galwayguy35

recylingbin wrote: »

I'd imagine that most people who are interested in this type of thing don't pay a TV licence.

Shows how wrong you can be, I'm interested and pay the license.

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5

Never paid much attention to this, didn't realise how fantastically homoerotic the whole thing is! Might stay up and watch it now, schwiing

JustTheOne

People who don't know mma wont understand the achievement in having a person from this country fighting for the title.

Its some achievement given our size and how the sport is so unknown in this country.

A young lad from Dublin about to fight to realise his dream.

How anyone would want to see him fail is beyond me but sure each to their own.

The dedication that goes into this sport wouldn't be matched in any other sport.

I challenge someone to prove me wrong.

JustTheOne

Salma Powerful Root wrote: »

Well for starts the UFC is a promotion and not a sport.

MMA as a sport is tiny.

The audience for events like tonight are big enough, but for MMA events as a whole the audience is tiny with loca clubs struggling to sell tickets for their events.

Seven years ago when CmG made his pro debut against Gary Morris we struggled to sell tickets for the show.

Rising Irish MMA stars are still struggling to sell tickets .

MMA is a tiny sport & only the very top guys get a decent following.

ufc(mma) is the fastest growing sport in the world.

mulbot

Can anyone tell me where i can pay for this,I have sky but can't get them,25 min waiting time at the minute,or do i order it from BT instead/ Thanks

moneymad

JustTheOne wrote: »

People who don't know mma wont understand the achievement in having a person from this country fighting for the title.

Its some achievement given our size and how the sport is so unknown in this country.

A young lad from Dublin about to fight to realise his dream.

How anyone would want to see him fail is beyond me but sure each to their own.

The dedication that goes into this sport wouldn't be matched in any other sport.

I challenge someone to prove me wrong.

Don't want to see him fail, however, I think he's a dickhead.

Goodluck to him tonight. Hope he wins. He's the underdog.

JustTheOne

moneymad wrote: »

Don't want to see him fail, however, I think he's a dickhead.

Goodluck to him tonight. Hope he wins. He's the underdog.

Its all an act. And it has worked.

Anyway moving on.

MuddyDog

All the shrewd money piling in today for Aldo who's now favourite to win.