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Boards.ie PW Draft 2016 discussion thread!

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,956 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    All 3 Shield members gone in the first round then :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,643 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    I like the stip for Rd 2 but I think based on my predictions at least that there will be a major drop off of main event calibre options after about ten or so picks.

    With that being said is there any chance of Round 3 being a reverse order round too? Reason I say that is if someone were for instance in the bottom five for rounds 2 as well as round 3 I think they may struggle to find main eventers by the time it's their turn because they're unlikely to have gotten one in round 2.

    If not, never mind. I'll roll with it. :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,025 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    I like the stip for Rd 2 but I think based on my predictions at least that there will be a major drop off of main event calibre options after about ten or so picks.

    With that being said is there any chance of Round 3 being a reverse order round too? Reason I say that is if someone were for instance in the bottom five for rounds 2 as well as round 3 I think they may struggle to find main eventers by the time it's their turn because they're unlikely to have gotten one in round 2.

    If not, never mind. I'll roll with it. :cool:

    How about a random draw for round 3 followed by another reverse round?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,503 ✭✭✭brianregan09


    That seems the fairest thing to do


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,956 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Was hoping Bray would slip into round three :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,804 ✭✭✭A Brad Maddox Guy


    beakerjoe wrote: »
    How about a random draw for round 3 followed by another reverse round?

    That doesn't resolve the issue MNG has though as the bottom of this round could easily be bottom of round 3 too.

    I agree with MNG about the steep drop off in quality as this round advances, there's a lot less options than round 1 that's for sure. Don't think reversing the order again in round 3 would be fair though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 303 ✭✭Uncle Walt


    Pick made pm sent and a return to the Cheesy Pics


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,699 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    Orton, like Reigns, I thought about, but I just didn't like the idea of writing for him for some reason.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,854 ✭✭✭SureYWouldntYa


    SlickRic wrote: »
    Orton, like Reigns, I thought about, but I just didn't like the idea of writing for him for some reason.

    He'll fit in anywhere, he's good enough to be right at the top and could also be put in a decent feud in the upper midcard so I'm happy with him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,699 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    He'll fit in anywhere, he's good enough to be right at the top and could also be put in a decent feud in the upper midcard so I'm happy with him

    You should be. It's a great pick. It's just a personal thing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,643 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    beakerjoe wrote:
    How about a random draw for round 3 followed by another reverse round?

    The problem is the random draw will likely leave someone in the low end of Rd 2 in the low end of Round 3 as well and there will be less chance of drawing a top name.

    If we take BH himself as an example: he's 19 for Rd 2 and will be unlikely to land a 'big name' by the time it's his go as most of the big deceased names wil have been drafted.

    If, say, he then lands number 16 in a random round 3 draw then he will see a lot of the big main event guys hoovered up before it's his go and so he's doubly hit, if you see what I mean.

    That's why I think one more reversal would at least make it a bit fairer, or perhaps hold off on the 'death' round until Round 3 maybe?

    But as I say, I'll roll with whatever is decided.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,699 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    The problem is the random draw will likely leave someone in the low end of Rd 2 in the low end of Round 3 as well and there will be less chance of drawing a top name.

    If we take BH himself as an example: he's 19 for Rd 2 and will be unlikely to land a 'big name' by the time it's his go as most of the big deceased names wil have been drafted.

    If, say, he then lands number 16 in a random round 3 draw then he will see a lot of the big main event guys hoovered up before it's his go and so he's doubly hit, if you see what I mean.

    That's why I think one more reversal would at least make it a bit fairer, or perhaps hold off on the 'death' round until Round 3 maybe?

    But as I say, I'll roll with whatever is decided.

    You could argue the middle ones would get screwed then for all 3 rounds. At least in the case of BH he got 2nd pick for Round 1.

    (Yes, I'm probably being biased!)

    It's why I think random every round is actually best, even though, like yourself, I'm happy to roll with whatever.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,956 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    SlickRic wrote: »
    You could argue the middle ones would get screwed then for all 3 rounds. At least in the case of BH he got 2nd pick for Round 1.

    (Yes, I'm probably being biased!)

    It's why I think random every round is actually best, even though, like yourself, I'm happy to roll with whatever.

    Yeah, as someone stuck in the middle, I'd rather roll the dice at the chance of getting a better placement.

    IMO, the random draws are a big part of the game, and it all evens out over the entire draft anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,804 ✭✭✭A Brad Maddox Guy


    One more reversal round would still be unfair on us folk in the middle though as we aren't benefiting from either reversal while the rest would. At least a random draw gives everybody equal opportunity of getting a good or rubbish draw.

    Personally I was initially excited by this stip but having drawn up a list of 20 names I reckon, unless I've made some glaring errors, that the options that Stereomaniac is likely to have wouldn't be fit to lick the boots of anybody available to the top 10, in particular the first 6 or 7. There's really not enough quality picks available which I found surprising.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,025 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    The problem is the random draw will likely leave someone in the low end of Rd 2 in the low end of Round 3 as well and there will be less chance of drawing a top name.

    If we take BH himself as an example: he's 19 for Rd 2 and will be unlikely to land a 'big name' by the time it's his go as most of the big deceased names wil have been drafted.

    If, say, he then lands number 16 in a random round 3 draw then he will see a lot of the big main event guys hoovered up before it's his go and so he's doubly hit, if you see what I mean.

    That's why I think one more reversal would at least make it a bit fairer, or perhaps hold off on the 'death' round until Round 3 maybe?

    But as I say, I'll roll with whatever is decided.

    I get your point. After a bit of homework Id argue their is over 20 names available in round 3 that could be considered main event IMO.

    As usual Ill go with the flow with what ever the master of ceremonies decides.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 303 ✭✭Uncle Walt


    I personally think whatever way the cards lay is whatever way the cards lay, as someone who's never had particularly great draws in the majority of drafts, and if I remember correctly I think MNG actually won the draft with one of the worst draws ever.. Sometimes half the fun is getting little victories in those lower draws


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,804 ✭✭✭A Brad Maddox Guy


    Maybe getting rid of the 20 year deadline would make this round a bit fairer? There's at least 3 or 4 relatively big names that are ineligible because they died too soon & might lead to the people near the bottom having some better options.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,025 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    Maybe getting rid of the 20 year deadline would make this round a bit fairer? There's at least 3 or 4 relatively big names that are ineligible because they died too soon & might lead to the people near the bottom having some better options.

    Great suggestion :) I'm getting pick 20 next round anyway , I can feel it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,643 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Uncle Walt wrote: »
    I personally think whatever way the cards lay is whatever way the cards lay, as someone who's never had particularly great draws in the majority of drafts, and if I remember correctly I think MNG actually won the draft with one of the worst draws ever.. Sometimes half the fun is getting little victories in those lower draws

    Fair point. I think when I won it in 2013 I had one of the lowest averages and yet that was probably my most well received roster in the end. So it's true that draws aren't the be all and end all. I wouldn't want to suggest that those who may have a low draw for round 2 and 3 are out of the running to win it as I'd hope people would take this into account when casting their votes for best roster.
    Maybe getting rid of the 20 year deadline would make this round a bit fairer? There's at least 3 or 4 relatively big names that are ineligible because they died too soon & might lead to the people near the bottom having some better options.

    Does it make that much difference though? I think realistically if you're bottom half in round 2 then you'll have to use it for a mid-level pick and wait for round 3 to get a main event level guy.

    Perhaps those who get to draft a second main event level guy in round 2 won't be looking for another one in round 3? That's my hope!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,025 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    loads online now too :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 303 ✭✭Uncle Walt


    I think that might very well be my Main Event sorted! And 2 gents I've never drafted before which is fantastic!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,804 ✭✭✭A Brad Maddox Guy


    Does it make that much difference though? I think realistically if you're bottom half in round 2 then you'll have to use it for a mid-level pick and wait for round 3 to get a main event level guy.

    Perhaps those who get to draft a second main event level guy in round 2 won't be looking for another one in round 3? That's my hope!

    Not a huge difference no, as I've said I don't think there's enough options for this stipulation to work properly. If people draft who I assume they will then nobody from 8-20 is getting a main eventer in this round imo but currently those in the bottom 5-8 are unlikely to even get someone that would be chosen in the first 5 rounds in any other year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,166 ✭✭✭Stereomaniac


    self contrrol I did not posses :pac:

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,542 ✭✭✭✭paulie21


    Draft moving at a nice pace now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,643 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    A bit grimly ironic in that it's now the Draft seems to come alive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,427 ✭✭✭ShagNastii


    Where do we stand on ECW Zombie and Zombie Linda (OSW), are they fair game in this round?;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,025 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    ShagNastii wrote: »
    Where do we stand on ECW Zombie and Zombie Linda (OSW), are they fair game in this round?;)

    I'm ok with you drafting both...ill even let them slide as a tag team


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,025 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    While happy with Eddie, I feel I may regret not picking another name


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,643 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Very sad to see Eddie drafted. He was one of my top 5 choices for Balor's opponent. The story wrote itself really. 'You think I'm scared of demons, esse? I'm been defeating demons my whole damn life!'

    Gutted. :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,025 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    Very sad to see Eddie drafted. He was one of my top 5 choices for Balor's opponent. The story wrote itself really. 'You think I'm scared of demons, esse? I'm been defeating demons my whole damn life!'

    Gutted. :(

    Not 100 percent on either of my draft picks so far, so ill be open to fair trades


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