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Disgusting thug robs churchgoers at gunpoint during prayer service

  • 07-12-2015 12:58pm
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    A masked gunman threatened and robbed 40 people as churchgoers in Dublin feared they were involved in an ISIS terror attack.

    The incident occurred at around midday on Sunday, when a man, armed with a sawn-off shotgun began threating worshippers after barging into the local enterprise centre in Ballymun.

    Around 40 people, including children, were praying when the gunman robbed them and left the area in a car belonging to one of the congregation.

    Worshippers feared an ISIS-style terror attack and a witness told the Irish Sun: "The first thing I thought when he came in was an IS thing because of what happened in Paris".

    Source: Irish Mirror

    How depraved do you have to be to rob some people as they pray?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭LDN_Irish


    Honestly very depraved.

    But on another note, how hopped up on the media hype machine do you have to be to see a man with a sawn off in the "Mun of all places and think "ah jaysis it's ISIS!" ****ing hell, the terrorists have truly won.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,843 ✭✭✭Uncle Ben


    LDN_Irish wrote: »
    Honestly very depraved.

    But on another note, how hopped up on the media hype machine do you have to be to see a man with a sawn off in the "Mun of all places and think "ah jaysis it's ISIS!" ****ing hell, the terrorists have truly won.

    I think a masked man with a gun in a church in this day and age could possibly be associated with ISIS. 30 years ago the same association could be made regarding loyalists or republicans terrorists de depending on which community were doing the praying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,598 ✭✭✭rizzodun


    They'll be alright.


    They'll be in the politicians prayers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭LDN_Irish


    Uncle Ben wrote: »
    I think a masked man with a gun in a church in this day and age could possibly be associated with ISIS. 30 years ago the same association could be made regarding loyalists or republicans terrorists de depending on which community were doing the praying.

    Interesting point, do you think that if this happened 30 years ago in Ballymun people would've thought it was loyalists? I wouldn't have thought so, but I wasn't alive then. It'd be a solid bet in a Catholic church up North pre GFA but in the "Mun?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Aye, couple of years ago took this Scottish cousin to the bank with me. We were coming out as the cash in transit guys with the army escort pulled up. Got in my car and looked around for the cousin, they were cowering behind a postbox with their hands in the air. People that aren't used to having guns pointed at them can react funny to having them pointed at them. Funnily enough.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    LDN_Irish wrote: »
    Honestly very depraved.

    But on another note, how hopped up on the media hype machine do you have to be to see a man with a sawn off in the "Mun of all places and think "ah jaysis it's ISIS!" ****ing hell, the terrorists have truly won.

    Well you wouldn't exactly expect an armed robbery on a church, I mean how much money would there be compared to an offie etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    How depraved do you have to be to rob some people as they pray?

    Shocking!

    Now, please pass around the baskets for our second collection...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,770 ✭✭✭The Randy Riverbeast


    Must have been upset that the raffle was rigged. No 11 was available and 11 just happens to win it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,819 ✭✭✭howamidifferent


    Must have been upset that the raffle was rigged. No 11 was available and 11 just happens to win it?

    That must be it Ted!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,121 ✭✭✭ClovenHoof


    Good thing God was there to stop the robbery.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 263 ✭✭eet fuk


    Aye, couple of years ago took this Scottish cousin to the bank with me. We were coming out as the cash in transit guys with the army escort pulled up. Got in my car and looked around for the cousin, they were cowering behind a postbox with their hands in the air. People that aren't used to having guns pointed at them can react funny to having them pointed at them. Funnily enough.

    Why were they pointing the guns at your cousin?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    eet fuk wrote: »
    Why were they pointing the guns at your cousin?

    They weren't. Try telling that to someone seeing armed soldiers jumping out of a jeep beside them for the first time though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Robbed by the robbers or robbed by the church.They were coming out empty handed either way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,431 ✭✭✭MilesMorales1


    whiskeyman wrote: »
    Shocking!

    Now, please pass around the baskets for our second collection...

    Didn't take long. Never change boards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,737 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    They're reporting that he stole nappies too. Very weird.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭arayess


    they prayed for him though and hoped he'd return to pray with them
    more forgiving than AH for sure


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭LDN_Irish


    c_man wrote: »
    Well you wouldn't exactly expect an armed robbery on a church, I mean how much money would there be compared to an offie etc.

    Yeah but in an offie you'd have some old Jewish guy with a 44 magnum or a Korean locked and loaded. Churches are like restaraunts, full of people with wallets and not expecting it. You just have to hope you don't run in to to 2 hitman having a quick pray after a hard day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    arayess wrote: »
    they prayed for him though and hoped he'd return to pray with them
    more forgiving than AH for sure


    They prayed for him and put curses on him outside the gate,if I know anything about God fearing catlicks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,779 ✭✭✭Day Lewin


    So call me superstitious, but I think that was a very unlucky thing to do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,779 ✭✭✭Day Lewin


    @kneemos

    They prayed for him and put curses on him outside the gate,if I know anything about God fearing catlicks.

    Um, it's possible that you don't.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 982 ✭✭✭amber69


    eet fuk wrote: »
    Why were they pointing the guns at your cousin?

    Because he's Scottish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    LDN_Irish wrote: »
    Yeah but in an offie you'd have some old Jewish guy with a 44 magnum or a Korean locked and loaded. Churches are like restaraunts, full of people with wallets and not expecting it. You just have to hope you don't run in to to 2 hitman having a quick pray after a hard day.

    Step away from the Sky remote control and keep your hands where I can see them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    kneemos wrote: »
    They prayed for him and put curses on him outside the gate,if I know anything about God fearing catlicks.

    What's with the sectarian slur?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    What's with the sectarian slur?


    Observations.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    The incident occurred at around midday on Sunday, when a man, armed with a sawn-off shotgun began threating worshippers after barging into the local enterprise centre in Ballymun.

    Was it a church or was it a local enterprise centre? Or is the church in the local enterprise centre?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭LDN_Irish


    topper75 wrote: »
    Step away from the Sky remote control and keep your hands where I can see them.

    Do they still show Pulp Fiction on Sky? I might have to subscribe for that alone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,817 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    If the churchgoers were allowed to carry, like our friends in the US, they'd still have their money.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    LDN_Irish wrote: »
    Yeah but in an offie you'd have some old Jewish guy with a 44 magnum or a Korean locked and loaded. Churches are like restaraunts, full of people with wallets and not expecting it. You just have to hope you don't run in to to 2 hitman having a quick pray after a hard day.
    Wrong country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    If the churchgoers were allowed to carry, like our friends in the US, they'd still have their money.

    Amen to that brother. :cool:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,812 ✭✭✭Vojera


    ClovenHoof wrote: »
    Good thing God was there to stop the robbery.

    Your username, it's perfect!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    LDN_Irish wrote: »
    Do they still show Pulp Fiction on Sky? I might have to subscribe for that alone.

    Sorry man :o

    Read it a little too fast. Had you down for one of those kids who lives in TV in their minds.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    kneemos wrote: »
    They prayed for him and put curses on him outside the gate,if I know anything about God fearing catlicks.

    Well, at least you're not the only one who didn't read the story.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    kneemos wrote: »
    Observations.

    It was the 'catlicks' part I took issue with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭LDN_Irish


    topper75 wrote: »
    Sorry man :o

    Read it a little too fast. Had you down for one of those kids who lives in TV in their minds.

    Haha no worries. I didn't want to directly quote because I thought "old Jew with a 44 Magnum" would look anti-semitic if people missed the reference.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭arayess


    kneemos wrote: »
    They prayed for him and put curses on him outside the gate,if I know anything about God fearing catlicks.
    c_man wrote: »
    Well, at least you're not the only one who didn't read the story.

    as C_man rightly pointed out.
    these folk are not catholic or catlick.
    these are really holy people


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,205 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    Eh what? Some guy held up 40 people at gunpoint and robbed them all, and the first I hear about this is on AH?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,383 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    LDN_Irish wrote: »
    Yeah but in an offie you'd have some old Jewish guy with a 44 magnum or a Korean locked and loaded. Churches are like restaraunts, full of people with wallets and not expecting it. You just have to hope you don't run in to to 2 hitman having a quick pray after a hard day.

    I dunno, I've never lived in a Hollywood movie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,383 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    hmmm wrote: »
    Eh what? Some guy held up 40 people at gunpoint and robbed them all, and the first I hear about this is on AH?

    Just another case of the Church trying to keep schtum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,536 ✭✭✭Kev W


    Birneybau wrote: »
    I dunno, I've never lived in a Hollywood movie.

    Or seen one, apparently. :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    LDN_Irish wrote: »
    Yeah but in an offie you'd have some old Jewish guy with a 44 magnum or a Korean locked and loaded. Churches are like restaraunts, full of people with wallets and not expecting it. You just have to hope you don't run in to to 2 hitman having a quick pray after a hard day.

    I love you honeybunny...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,383 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    Kev W wrote: »
    Or seen one, apparently. :pac:

    Ooh, I missed a Pulp Fiction quote.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,224 ✭✭✭DellyBelly


    It wasn't a Catholic church as far as I am aware...so not really a church but still a shocking thing to happen


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,536 ✭✭✭Kev W


    DellyBelly wrote: »
    It wasn't a Catholic church as far as I am aware...so not really a church but still a shocking thing to happen

    Non-catholic churches are still churches. Hence the name "Churches".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,770 ✭✭✭The Randy Riverbeast


    kneemos wrote: »
    They prayed for him and put curses on him outside the gate,if I know anything about God fearing catlicks.

    Think they were born again Christians.
    If the churchgoers were allowed to carry, like our friends in the US, they'd still have their money.

    If they couldn't do much with a god on their side I doubt a gun would be much use.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,817 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    Amen to that brother. :cool:

    Yes, I can't see what could possibly go wrong if that were the law of the land. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭conorhal


    If the churchgoers were allowed to carry, like our friends in the US, they'd still have their money.


    That reminds me of an old joke...


    A priest was delivering a sermon entitled "Stand Still and let the good Lord Fight your battles", on the topic of not fighting but letting God vanquish evil himself. As he was delivering the sermon, a gust of wind lifted his garment and the congregation noticed he was carrying a gun.

    After the service a congregant asked him, "I understood your sermon, but aren't you contradicting yourself by carrying a gun? You did say you are supposed to let the Lord fight your battles for you?"

    "I do", said the priest "the gun is just to hold them off until the Lord gets here".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,075 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    I am glad I don't go to mass....

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



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    LDN_Irish wrote: »
    Honestly very depraved.

    But on another note, how hopped up on the media hype machine do you have to be to see a man with a sawn off in the "Mun of all places and think "ah jaysis it's ISIS!" ****ing hell, the terrorists have truly won.

    It's more a sign of the times that these could happen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,092 ✭✭✭catbear


    It's more a sign of the times that these could happen.

    Generally these small congregations tend to give very generously, one guy i used to work with used to give a 10th of his salary to his community church so I'd imagine even a small group of 20-30 would be a good haul.
    I reckon someone who had attended before was the robber or either tipped the robber off

    I read an interesting article before about how Utah had the highest rate of affinity fraud, religious groups are soft targets as their mission is to convert the sinner. Suckers!


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