Kilkenny GAA Thread Part 2 **MOD NOTE POST 1***

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I would like to see Rob Lennon, James Maher and Kevin Kelly given another run against Galway this weekend. Cillian Buckley should return. Wouldn't mind if Chris Bolger started either. Jackie Tyrrell should be picked also even though Shane Prendergast has staked his claim to the left back position, we need to see what the back up can do in the event of injuries. Who would cover full back?

brookville

Joey went off with a knock and joyce went in full back.id expect the team to be pretty much the same maybe john joe will start, two wins out of the three matches should guarantee a qf

Hawkeye6

citykat wrote: »

If today's match is anything to go by, I wouldn't be very confident we'll have much of a forward threat. The majority of the scores today were from two players. CBS forwards were poor with Kieran's only marginally better.

There are more forwards in the county than the Kierans and the CBS. Over the last few years this seems to be forgotten. Other lads are hurling with Waterford, Wexford, Tipperary and Laois colleges but are getting nowhere near the amount of exposure. There's plenty of other good forwards in the county like John Donnelly (Thomastown), James Bergin (Conahy), Sean Buggy (Erins Own), Jamie Norris (Piltown), Terry Dreelan (Graig) hurling with lesser "hurling" colleges. When Kilkenny last won a minor All-Ireland, the two key scoring forwards were Alan Murphy (Glenmore) and John Walsh (Mullinavat). Don't think they went to Kierans or CBS. Maybe the hype around Kierans and CBS games is doing more harm than good where familiarity breeds contempt and we could get another dose of it before the colleges season ends.

Cornerback1

brookville wrote: »

Joey went off with a knock and joyce went in full back.id expect the team to be pretty much the same maybe john joe will start, two wins out of the three matches should guarantee a qf

Any word on Joey and Richie Hogan this week?

I'd be inclined to start same team, barring injuries. They deserve another chance esp. Lennon, Maher and Kelly.

In saying that BC will probably chance it a wee bit and put somebody else in. It'd be good to get another 2pts in Galway.

League is very tight and there's not much room for manouvre. Hopefully it'll not be blowing a thunderstorm in Galway this week-end.

MfMan

Cornerback1 wrote: »

Any word on Joey and Richie Hogan this week?

I'd be inclined to start same team, barring injuries. They deserve another chance esp. Lennon, Maher and Kelly.

In saying that BC will probably chance it a wee bit and put somebody else in. It'd be good to get another 2pts in Galway.

League is very tight and there's not much room for manouvre. Hopefully it'll not be blowing a thunderstorm in Galway this week-end.

Probably will, doubt if it will affect the hurling though.

citykat

Hawkeye6 wrote: »

There are more forwards in the county than the Kierans and the CBS. Over the last few years this seems to be forgotten. Other lads are hurling with Waterford, Wexford, Tipperary and Laois colleges but are getting nowhere near the amount of exposure. There's plenty of other good forwards in the county like John Donnelly (Thomastown), James Bergin (Conahy), Sean Buggy (Erins Own), Jamie Norris (Piltown), Terry Dreelan (Graig) hurling with lesser "hurling" colleges. When Kilkenny last won a minor All-Ireland, the two key scoring forwards were Alan Murphy (Glenmore) and John Walsh (Mullinavat). Don't think they went to Kierans or CBS. Maybe the hype around Kierans and CBS games is doing more harm than good where familiarity breeds contempt and we could get another dose of it before the colleges season ends.

I'm well aware there are kilkenny lads hurling with schools other than Kierans/CBS. However, IMO both schools are bellwethers as to the general standard of minor hurling in Kilkenny. Hopefully there are hidden gems out there waiting to be unearthed but, these days with the preponderance of squads, any hurler worth his salt is more than likely already well known and in the system. Hopefully some of the guys you listed step up (Donnelly was on the team last year of course) and stake a place on the minor team as I wouldn't be over confident in what I saw last Saturday. You're correct about Walsh and Murphy but 8 of their team mates attended Kierans/CBS. There were plenty more on the bench, some of whom saw action in the replay. I don't follow your point about the Kierans/CBS games; familiarity, contempt?

citykat

Cornerback1 wrote: »

Any word on Joey and Richie Hogan this week?

I'd be inclined to start same team, barring injuries. They deserve another chance esp. Lennon, Maher and Kelly.

In saying that BC will probably chance it a wee bit and put somebody else in. It'd be good to get another 2pts in Galway.

League is very tight and there's not much room for manouvre. Hopefully it'll not be blowing a thunderstorm in Galway this week-end.

Game is on in Nowlan Park.

Cornerback1

citykat wrote: »

Game is on in Nowlan Park.

For some reason i had it in my head it was in Galway..don't know why!!! Maybe thought it was away, home, away again in league.

Thanks for that.

Realt Dearg Sec

Cornerback1 wrote: »

For some reason i had it in my head it was in Galway..don't know why!!! Maybe thought it was away, home, away again in league.

Thanks for that.

Good thing you found out before you were in a car half way to Salthill.

dirkmeister

For anyone wondering the club fixtures have finally been published on kilkennygaa.ie

Cornerback1

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

Good thing you found out before you were in a car half way to Salthill.

Long way from Derry!!!

brookville

Great to see our good friend barry coming down to ref the match sunday....

brookville

What new faces would people like to see sunday? richie hogan should probably return but eoin murphy will be out for a number of weeks which is a blow no doubt but it's great to expose richie reid to some game time.

tbiggertycome

Team v Galway
R Reid
S Prendergast J Holden J Tyrrell
P Walsh K Joyce C Buckley
L Ryan C Fogarty
C Fennelly TJ Reid J Maher
W Walsh K Kelly R Hogan
Subs.
A Murphy
P Murphy
R Lennon
D Cody
B Kennedy
C oShea
C Martin
JJ Farrell
J Power
M Malone

dubcat51

Usual 1 or 2 changes.kwlly and maher given a chance to build on tipp game.o shea and martin may get game time.also great to see jackie the terminator back.

KKCATDownUnder

Kilkenny (SH v Galway): Richie Reid; Shane Prendergast, Joey Holden, Jackie Tyrrell; Padraig Walsh, Kieran Joyce, Cillian Buckley; Lester Ryan, Conor Fogarty; Colin Fennelly, TJ Reid, James Maher; Walter Walsh, Kevin Kelly, Richie Hogan.

Would have liked to see R Lennon get more game time as we know K Joyce capabilities , also I know its old school but anyone think its worth trying W Walsh at full forward / on the edge of the sqaure to break / catch / offload dropping ball to the other 2 speed merchants on the full forward line

brookville

Most of the fowards at this level interchange throughout games and we're the same. Water was at 14 when he made tjs goal in the all Ireland but I agree I'm surprised he hasn't be giving more game time at full foward usually operates at 10

dastardly00

brookville wrote: »

What new faces would people like to see sunday? richie hogan should probably return but eoin murphy will be out for a number of weeks which is a blow no doubt but it's great to expose richie reid to some game time.

What injury does Eoin Murphy have?

brookville

Back injury which is apparently serious enough he'll miss the next couple of matches.its interesting that his brother alan is sub keeper

citykat

brookville wrote: »

Back injury which is apparently serious enough he'll miss the next couple of matches.its interesting that his brother alan is sub keeper

Thought Brennan was next in line.

brookville

Brennan was a sub for one match last year and and played u21 last year while murphy was sub goalie so the general feeling was he'd be back up.

pat 22

Does anyone have a link for the game today?
In the uk

dastardly00

Half time, 8 point lead. KK are in cruise control at the moment. Galway don't seem to be up for it.

Padraig Walsh playing well, along with Joyce. Lester putting in a lot of effort.

Both TJ and Canning have missed relatively easy frees, despite there being no wind whatsoever.

Jackie is still trying to dust off the cobwebs, he is quite rusty.

me89

2nd half was a real struggle, we had so many goal chances but managed to mess them all up.
Conor Fogarty and Padraig Walsh were class.

Cornerback1

brookville wrote: »

Most of the fowards at this level interchange throughout games and we're the same. Water was at 14 when he made tjs goal in the all Ireland but I agree I'm surprised he hasn't be giving more game time at full foward usually operates at 10

I think BC uses him as a puck out target in games at half forward. Not to say that he drops into full forward at times through games but as somebody stated, players move about so much these days, it's hard to judge where they spend most of their time at during games.

dastardly00

me89 wrote: »

2nd half was a real struggle, we had so many goal chances but managed to mess them all up.
Conor Fogarty and Padraig Walsh were class.

Yeah the match should have been sewn up early enough in the 2nd half. I still don't know what the heck Colin Fennelly was thinking when he absolutely butchered that goal chance. He was so close to goal that he could have kicked it if he wanted to. Walter should have scored a goal also with his chance.

Galway kept chipping away at the scoreline. Canning got a few nice scores, and then the goal came from their corner back. They had the momentum but KK closed out the game well.

I thought Holden and Prendergast were solid. Jackie was very, very rusty. All of the half-back line were excellent, apart from a few dodgy passes. Fogarty and Lester Ryan were running all day, massive effort on verybsoft ground.

TJ was excellent again, a level above everyone else. I thought Walter did well, two decent games in a row in my opinion. Richie Hogan was very quite for the majority of the match. Kevin Kelly wasn't great. He lacked the physicality and intensity that probably has kept him off the starting team so far. James Maher put in a solid display and got two points I think. Colin Fennelly got in a lot of hooks, blocks and tackles so you can't argue about his effort. He just really butchered a clear goal chance, and he missed another easy point when he struck the ball weakly and it landed in the goalkeeper's hands.

Cornerback1

dastardly00 wrote: »

Yeah the match should have been sewn up early enough in the 2nd half. I still don't know what the heck Colin Fennelly was thinking when he absolutely butchered that goal chance. He was so close to goal that he could have kicked it if he wanted to. Walter should have scored a goal also with his chance.

Galway kept chipping away at the scoreline. Canning got a few nice scores, and then the goal came from their corner back. They had the momentum but KK closed out the game well.

I thought Holden and Prendergast were solid. Jackie was very, very rusty. All of the half-back line were excellent, apart from a few dodgy passes. Fogarty and Lester Ryan were running all day, massive effort on verybsoft ground.

TJ was excellent again, a level above everyone else. I thought Walter did well, two decent games in a row in my opinion. Richie Hogan was very quite for the majority of the match. Kevin Kelly wasn't great. He lacked the physicality and intensity that probably has kept him off the starting team so far. James Maher put in a solid display and got two points I think. Colin Fennelly got in a lot of hooks, blocks and tackles so you can't argue about his effort. He just really butchered a clear goal chance, and he missed another easy point when he struck the ball weakly and it landed in the goalkeeper's hands.

Got insight there. Thanks for that.

Aye, if we got the first goal, Galway wouldn't have come back but that 2nd half performance will do no harm in terms of complacency for the next few games. Sometimes when you dominant a game so much, the other team comes back into it and you could get pipped.

All in all, 2 wins out of three after Waterford defeat so it's not too bad in comparison with last seasons league. Hopefully we'll get to quarter finals now and the extra games will do no harm.

It's good to bear in mind that we started later than the other teams so, where we are currently, is positive enough in my opinion.

A few players getting a run out - James Maher and Kevin Kelly as well as Donnacadh Cody and Robert Lennon. Todays run out will have done JT no harm either. As things progress, BC may give a few other a run out.

Hopefully T.J. and Richie stay injury free.

T.J. is on another planet!!

citykat

Good posts above. Thought Wally was quieter than last week. McInerney is nearly as big as him in fairness. Jackie got on a lot of ball but his passing was crazy at times. Pender and Joey played well with the latter doing a JJ on it in the first half. Padraig Walsh was motm for me. Gets in a huge amount of work. Joyce and Buckley were solid. Fogarty was close second for motm. Lester seemed to get bottled up at times. Kelly and Richie were quiet with the latter dropping his shots short in the second half. Fennelly was his usual bustling self. His shooting seems to be disimproving. He gave one great pass yo Richie who missed from 6 yards. Maher while not as good as last week got two points having missed a couple earlier. As for TJ, he just continues to thrill. He's the new leader in this team.

KKCATDownUnder

is the match available anywhere to watch ?

KKCATDownUnder

What exactly happened with Joe Canning and C Fogarty ?