Where would you go next...

MarkN

Just had a look at the stock there... something nice for small enough money!!

https://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/mercedes-benz/s-class/fpa/202001286681538?journey=DealerStockList

carsfan2

MarkN wrote: »

Just had a look at the stock there... something nice for small enough money!!

https://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/mercedes-benz/s-class/fpa/202001286681538?journey=DealerStockList

Nice car alright. Lovely car to run as a comfy daily.
They are obviously selling cars at the moment.
A 2016 silver low mileage 730d m sport I was looking at the other night is gone today.

Idbatterim

I wouldn't personally buy a non lwb s class. Also the motor tax for the 3L diesel went to 570 from 2011 or 2012... I do realise that car has low mileage. Thsy look way better with amg pack. I'll pay e1200 for the 4.8 twin turbo s500 as next car, actually great value for power you get, but wouldnt pay e1200 for the 3l diesel. The a7 laughably alone 3 litre diesel , motor tax from 270

mickdw

carsfan2 wrote: »

Nice car alright. Lovely car to run as a comfy daily.
They are obviously selling cars at the moment.
A 2016 silver low mileage 730d m sport I was looking at the other night is gone today.

I saw that 7 series. It was a nice car and not too badly priced.
I was thinking to myself that the 7 was making more sense pricewise than a current 5 series if one was needing a 30d

carsfan2

Idbatterim wrote: »

I wouldn't personally buy a non lwb s class. Also the motor tax for the 3L diesel went to 570 from 2011 or 2012... I do realise that car has low mileage. Thsy look way better with amg pack. I'll pay e1200 for the 4.8 twin turbo s500 as next car, actually great value for power you get, but wouldnt pay e1200 for the 3l diesel. The a7 laughably alone 3 litre diesel , motor tax from 270

Yes the tax is probably a factor in that car at the price it is as well as non amg and the beige colour not to everyone’s taste.
Funnily enough I would be the opposite on wheelbase and prefer regular s class or 7 series. The lwb shouts ex chauffeur car to me.

maddness

mickdw wrote: »

I saw that 7 series. It was a nice car and not too badly priced.
I was thinking to myself that the 7 was making more sense pricewise than a current 5 series if one was needing a 30d

What price was it do you remember?
The current 7 series is a massive step above the current 5 series in the cabin, I’ve had both and there is no comparison. Very good value too.

maddness

carsfan2 wrote: »

Yes the tax is probably a factor in that car at the price it is as well as non amg and the beige colour not to everyone’s taste.
Funnily enough I would be the opposite on wheelbase and prefer regular s class or 7 series. The lwb shouts ex chauffeur car to me.

With you 100% on the short wheel base being the more desirable. The SWB is manageable but try parking a LWB anywhere.

bazz26

maddness wrote: »

What price was it do you remember?
The current 7 series is a massive step above the current 5 series in the cabin, I’ve had both and there is no comparison. Very good value too.

I think they were asking around 37k for it.

mickdw

bazz26 wrote: »

I think they were asking around 37k for it.

Mid 30s i was thinking - maybe you are right.

carsfan2

Yeah 36/37 k and 36000 miles odd I think.

Voodoomelon

LWB all the way. 20 years ago, the SWB was the way to go as the wheelbase severely affected the look of the E38. The SWB was sportier looking and in general a more rounded looking vehicle.

Since the E65 shape onwards, the considerably larger chassis, pronounced bodywork and overall design hides the LWB much better. And it is a huge disappointment sitting in the back of a 7 and realising you have but an inch more legroom than a 5 series. Pointless going for the SWB, LWB all the way. The difference in luxury is remarkable. And if you can't park the SWB, 5-6 inches isn't going to make much difference!

maddness

Voodoomelon wrote: »

LWB all the way. 20 years ago, the SWB was the way to go as the wheelbase severely affected the look of the E38. The SWB was sportier looking and in general a more rounded looking vehicle.

Since the E65 shape onwards, the considerably larger chassis, pronounced bodywork and overall design hides the LWB much better. And it is a huge disappointment sitting in the back of a 7 and realising you have but an inch more legroom than a 5 series. Pointless going for the SWB, LWB all the way. The difference in luxury is remarkable. And if you can't park the SWB, 5-6 inches isn't going to make much difference!

I sit in the front!

Idbatterim

Agree voodoo, rear leg room laughable in swb given size of the cars

mickdw

Wouldnt touch a Lwb. While id agree more recent models do hide the extra length better but you still get the impression that they are stretched versions of the initial design.
Sure if you intend to carry alot of rear seat passengers as comfortably as possible, the lwb is ideal but otherwise i dont see why you would go for it.

LWB barges - posh PSV.

Wailin

Azurite black M3. Such a stunning colour in the sunlight. A bit like CB but richer and more sparkle.




https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2016-bmw-m3-lci-dct-carbon-ceramic-brakes/24769476

Voodoomelon

mickdw wrote: »

Wouldnt touch a Lwb. While id agree more recent models do hide the extra length better but you still get the impression that they are stretched versions of the initial design.
Sure if you intend to carry alot of rear seat passengers as comfortably as possible, the lwb is ideal but otherwise i dont see why you would go for it.

Maybe I come from a smaller town mentality, in big cities or the likes you *might* comes across two of the same model on the same road and think to yourself I prefer the look of one over the other. When you spot a super specced 7 on the road in the midst of Quasqais, the last thing you think of is "hmm, its a bit long is it?".

Other side of the coin, you can be sure the odd passenger will climb into a swb and think to themselves "oh, this is less roomy than I thought it would be". LWB has a wow factor, you nearly fall backwards as you get in there's so much room in the back.

Yes we all sit in the front, who cares about the back. I'd argue if you don't care, get a 5 series.

drunkmonkey

Wailin wrote: »

Azurite black M3. Such a stunning colour in the sunlight. A bit like CB but richer and more sparkle.

Spotted that the other day it's very tasty looking. Wonder how used prices will hold up.

Wailin

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Spotted that the other day it's very tasty looking. Wonder how used prices will hold up.

Be interesting to see alright.

Love that colour. The ceramic brakes look well but are not needed and a big extra cost come service time.

traco

LWB all day, its only 700mm shorter than my LWB Transit and I know it needs a clean!

maddness

Voodoomelon wrote: »

Maybe I come from a smaller town mentality, in big cities or the likes you *might* comes across two of the same model on the same road and think to yourself I prefer the look of one over the other. When you spot a super specced 7 on the road in the midst of Quasqais, the last thing you think of is "hmm, its a bit long is it?".

Other side of the coin, you can be sure the odd passenger will climb into a swb and think to themselves "oh, this is less roomy than I thought it would be". LWB has a wow factor, you nearly fall backwards as you get in there's so much room in the back.

Yes we all sit in the front, who cares about the back. I'd argue if you don't care, get a 5 series.

If you want passengers getting in the back to say wow get yourself an Skoda Superb!

traco

maddness wrote: »

If you want passengers getting in the back to say wow get yourself an Skoda Superb!

I have one of them aswell and that was the reason I went LWB on the W221. I have a W220 SWB and I have to move my seat in it for rear passengers as its tight in the rear if I don't.

bazz26

I don't buy into the idea that a lwb 7 series is the main reason to own a 7 Series otherwise get a 5 Series. The 7 Series is a step up in comfort, luxury and refinement over a 5 Series, whether it be swb or lwb. Yes the lwb will have more rear space and creature comforts for rear passengers but unless you spend most of your time in the rear or you ferry rear passengers around for a living then your not going to really benefit from it from behind the steering wheel imo.

mickdw

bazz26 wrote: »

I don't buy into the idea that a lwb 7 series is the main reason to own a 7 Series otherwise get a 5 Series. The 7 Series is a step up in comfort, luxury and refinement over a 5 Series, whether it be swb or lwb. Yes the lwb will have more rear space and creature comforts for rear passengers but unless you spend most of your time in the rear or you ferry rear passengers around for a living then your not going to really benefit from it from behind the steering wheel imo.

Ive not driven one but id imagine the lwb must be abit more bargy in handling terms.

Wailin

To really impress those back seat passengers in the 7, you need lounge spec

drunkmonkey

Wailin wrote: »

To really impress those back seat passengers in the 7, you need lounge spec

Nice lounge on this A8, lot of car for the money. https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/audi-a8l-3-0-tdi-quattro-tip-tronic/24291021

Wailin

Out of curiosity I got a new price quote from a BMW dealer on the M340i. Stock car price before VAT and VRT......€45,637 with metallic paint :rolleyes:

VAT: €10,496.51

VRT: €18,009.13 :pac::pac:

Total after taxes before even looking at packs and options: €74,152

What a great little country to be a motorist.

MarkN

Jesus that A8 is sublime!

hooch-85

The VRT is calculated on the VAT inclusive price right?

bazz26

The ad says that A8 is a 3.0 TDi but the badge on the boot says 50 TFSi: